Guys with no game... truly an abomination to mankind.

[Chika]

Wow, yeah, guys with no game should be taught... and if they don't learn, should be exterminated. LOL, jk. Let me tell you how I really feel...

There are two kinds of guys with no game...

A.) Shy guy who is scared of women and honestly can't remember the last time he spoke to one.
B.) Guy who think he has game, but doesn't.

The first one I have pity for. The second one... is the scourge of the earth. I know, I've been on dates with them. They look you up and down like a piece of meat. They don't know or care a fig about anything you say... and lewdly, inappropriate ask for sex often way too soon. After interacting with them you just need to go home and scrub yourself down with a loofah until the dirty feeling goes away. They epitomize the opposite of calibration.

What is your take on this?

[sonicbliss]

My take is the same pretty much. Those who don't know should learn, and the others just weed themselves outta the mix by acting like boars. I've heard other women tell me stories about the latter giving them demands or requests for sex. My take is that if you have to ask for it- you're probably not going to get it:) It's all in the mood and the approach. Those guys don't have any patience or skills. I've never learned "the game" until recently, but still never had a problem with building comfort and rapport, which ultimately led to sex. The issue I did have was being too shy, but the methods are teaching me TONS about meeting. Since I read the book, I've approached a dozen or so ladies and started rapport with at least 10 of them I'm loving life now:)

[lucky83]

I truly agree, however.... The guy who thinks he has game, generally down inside knows he doesnt. Its like hes trying to act like an Alpha when hes just an AFC. The truth is he is just as insure as the shy guy, but the shy guy leaves you alone. Yet they both go home feeling the same.... shitty. Thats why they are so extreme in their delivery, its pure desperation! Both guys need the same help

[Chika]

Insufferable Bachelor #2 might be too arrogant to think he needs help tho. Ack!

Admitting you have a problem is the first step...

[Yoda]

I don't have game, I like to think though "what would an alpha do in this situation" and just fake it til I make it.

I was jogging earlier and I saw a bunch of people heading out of a house party, which made me feell insufferably different. What I need to do first is shed my buzz-kill attitude.

I don't drink, don't enjoy loud music, don't really like parties. I pretty much epitomize "long walk on the beach guy."

Is there room on you're list for a 3rd category of hopelessness? lol

[Sincerelee]

Chika, I appreciate the viewpoint. The final solution style elimination is not the answer. If we were all programmed robots, then elimination would be the right answer. Fortunately, we can reprogram ourselves. Those that do not will naturally be kept from continuing their genes to another generation.

But, to say a guy doesn't have game because he doesn't know the Mystery Method outline would be wrong...not saying you feel that way, just pointing out there are those who do.

And, it is the women who are responsible for those two categories of men for existing.

Group one were fun kids who were hanging out with friends. But, he felt an attraction for some girl who rejected him so harshly it scared him from ever trying again

Group two saw they needed to change. They kept trying to meet women until they finally found an LSE woman who allowed herself to be subjected to. It clicked in this guy's mind, "This is how you treat and meet women."

So, why would you disdain men for being the end productr of badly skilled women? Instead, be a woman of high value. Take a moment, not based on what you think it is worth to you, but based on whether time constraints allow you to do so, provide guidance on how, if that kind of guy, whether shy or guido, wants to get with a woman like you, this is what they need to do. Then, let them know firmly, but not harshly, "Until you do this, you have no chance with me."

Most women just shut a man down. That is because most women value themselves higher than they do others. Or, they are scared.

Effectively, they are the two counterparts to your two types.

The woman who values herself higher than others will tell guys to f-off. The girl who is scared will say she has a boyfriend...even though the truth is she is too socially inept to have a boyfriend.

Fortunately, for these women, they have alcohol. It lowers the discretion of the snob and gives courage to the scared.

Women have alcohol. Men have Mystery Method. (Now that's a quote that should be at the bottom of someone's signature.)

[npf87]

THIS IS A BIT HYPOCRITICAL, SO I FEEL IT'S ONLY RIGHT TO SHOW THE OTHER SIDE:

Girls who are weak-minded..truly an abomination to any guy who looks for more than a nice body.

A) The scared, lame, weak girl that can't hold her end of any conversation, and isn't confident enough to be in a healthy relationship.
B) The sneaky, evil, manipulative girl who thinks she's so smart, but when faced in front of a real man who doesn't take that shit, hides in the corner.

8 out of 10 girls I talk to are just losers mentally. 90% of their thoughts are either negative or manipulative. These girls need to quit being so down on themselves, and quit being so sneaky. Start believing yourself, and start being honest. This would greatly open the playing field; there would be strong, sexy women everywhere! :)

[Edgewise]

I think there's really only one type of guy without game: self-centered bores.

Shy guys are only thinking about themselves and how other people think about them, as if every person in the club is going to notice and care about what he does. Outgoing guys often just like to hear themselves talk and drone on about stuff women don't care about. Others seem to think that just the fact of there presence should make girls flock to them.

It all comes down to conceit and a refusal to take a real interest in anyone but himself.

[NeoEon]

What do you call good looking women, who love to hang out with "buddies", have a dozen of men who would love to be with them, but then end up with the losers who treat them like shit?

All I was able to understand so far is that they basically have no self-esteem and want all men to fall for their beauty, because that's a situation they can control. They are scared that eventually someone will want to look behind the mask and see the vulnerable, little, scared girl.

Good observation? And why are there so many women out there like that?
It's really a mystery.

[bavarois]

Why the fuck would you care about someone else having game or not? Why the hell would you judge a person based on his game skills? Do you feel better than these persons? Well, you're not. Wow you have game. Great man.

Grow up.

[CoolJ]

Firstly i dont see the point in this thread. Can you imagine how hard it wuld b 2 own a club if every1 in there culd game. Very fucking hard, just keep it 2 yourself and make it easier to take the girl of some AFC and save the day ;)

As long as theres AFC's theres PUA's.

[Eden]

actually I think the two types of girls with no game would be:

1) the ones who want a to be in a relationship with an awesome guy but end up getting nothing more than one night stands.

2) and the type that is isolated and doesn't get any cock of any value.

^the above two are likely to feel equally unsatisfied



to have a game as a women you basically need to be as attractive as possible, with the best choice of guys to be with and be able to get the best one's to commit to you. getting Chode guys to act as your personal slave army would be an added bonus.