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Firesky09
07-28-2007, 05:55 PM
Hi,

Im new to this. Im 19 years old and currently just got ok with staring people in the eyes and saying hi to women on the street and getting a response back. I'm now moving on to opening them. I do have a friend who is really good at this (he will be working for Mystery soon). He told me to get a few openers and just go practice.

Here is my problem. A.) I don't know any good openers (could someone give me a link to one that has a million of them that aren't frequently used.

B.) I have this stupid fear of them thinking Im full of shit and calling me on it. Again, only way to get over that is to go do it (which I am starting now).

Then I need to learn how to end the conversation. I would just say, "hey thanks for the help" or whatever. I'm not looking to transition right now.

I guess this is now where my "border" is. A week ago my border used to be staring people in the eye and saying hi. Now it this, and I know I can get through it just like the others, just need some assistance.

Any help from you guys would be great.

A.J.
07-29-2007, 10:39 AM
alright well heres the thing, you dont need a great amazing opener to open a girl, thats the thing that i had to learn the hardway. when i was starting out and in my "learn absolutely EVERY opener/ tactic before talking to a girl" stage (probably many of the guys on the forrum went thru something like this.

now i realise that you dont need a great opener if your body language is good. even saying "hey hows it goin" is a great opener when you have good body language. if your just learning how to look a girl in the eyes and getting over that now then im guessing you havent fine tuned your body language yet so thats something to work on.

but since you asked, my recomindation is to makeup your own openers and that way you know there one of a kind. keeping in mind that once the body language is good anything will work. i succesfully did a mini pickup (makeout in public nuthin amazin) a lil while back with a the simple "hey hows it goin? who are you guys here with? ah sweet im matt and this is my buddy....(goes into w/e pops into my head"

hope this helped and wasnt alot of ino you already knew :P

A.J.
07-29-2007, 10:49 AM
oh and i almost forgot yes you will get that feeling of your going to be caught once in a while and yes 1 out of 100 girls will call you on it. at this point you HAVE to makesure you have a responce. standing there in shock will just screw you so makesure you have a responce. if you use a simple opener like hey hows it goin? like i said above then you wont ever get called on it (mabye you will in clubs but in daygame (which i do) ive NEVER been called on it) if you do decide to use a canned opener (like mabe one of the 1000 that are all over the forrum...) then you need to learn how to retaliate to there call. heres a quick example and hopefully youl get the idea:

"hey girls i have a quick 2 second question, but then i have to get back to my friends.....do you believe in spells?"

"hey some guy just asked us that a lil while ago"

"oh realie you must have talked to my friend, why what did u say to him about it?.....(move on from here)"

simple eh? alright well best of luck man hope i helped

A.J.
07-29-2007, 10:55 AM
haha and one last thing (yes i know im going on and on...) remember man that being good at this doesnt happen overnight go step by step like you are. thats how you eventually hit mastery. i dont even come close to considering myself at that level and wont for some time :P but you start little by little and soon youl be amazing at opening and will have a new sticking point (like say attracting) and then after that it will be something new untill eventually you have no more sticking points. good luck man and id be glad to try and help you in any way possible in the future, have fun with this i know i have ;)