It would be nice if Mystery posted messages more often

[Jpan]

That's my suggestion

[Enigma]

That's my suggestion

I understand your feelings, BUT: have you ever bothered to read and understand what he has written so far? Have you read VAH? Did you implement all of it? Do you agree that there is not a lack of information? At least not of written stuff.

Now, if you want something really good, wait for the transparency videos and his TV show.

Enough has already been written.

Peace, Enigma

[-Silver-]

You mean: it would be nice if Mystery posted messages. Full stop. Yes it would, but god knows why he doesn't. A very similar thread already exists, and it came down to two different views:

Some people felt he should take the time to make posts, seeing as this is his own forum, and we support him by being here. Even once a week would be fine, not asking much at all.

Some people claim he doesn't post because he's too busy gaming, and we should follow by example. So according to them, he doesn't even have 10 minutes a week where he isn't gaming, and we all should all follow suit, and completely forget about the community and what it is here for.

Doesn't take a genius to work out my beliefs on this one :P Make up your own mind on the matter. Fact is, he doesn't post here.

-Silver-

[dman]

A "thought for week" kind of post would be nice. He wouldn't even need to bother with reading and replying to other posts, just him starting a new thread each week about whatever new thoughts he has been having.

Ah well, we can all have wishful thinking.

[Dox]

A "thought for week" kind of post would be nice. He wouldn't even need to bother with reading and replying to other posts, just him starting a new thread each week about whatever new thoughts he has been having.

Ah well, we can all have wishful thinking.

Agreed - I think it would be cool if he just popped in every now and then just to say "Hi" and share a bit. Contribute to comradery, that kind of thing. Although, I can certainly see why he's currently unable to due to his many obligations.

The only peek at Mystery as a man I've gotten was from Style's book, and I admired even that representation. Bah...I'm gonna go back to reading up on the VAH now lol

[Blu]

You mean: it would be nice if Mystery posted messages. Full stop. Yes it would, but god knows why he doesn't. A very similar thread already exists, and it came down to two different views:

Some people felt he should take the time to make posts, seeing as this is his own forum, and we support him by being here. Even once a week would be fine, not asking much at all.

Some people claim he doesn't post because he's too busy gaming, and we should follow by example. So according to them, he doesn't even have 10 minutes a week where he isn't gaming, and we all should all follow suit, and completely forget about the community and what it is here for.

Doesn't take a genius to work out my beliefs on this one :P Make up your own mind on the matter. Fact is, he doesn't post here.

-Silver-
This is a forum to educate. Mystery leads by example. Now get out the house and away from the computer

[Thor]

Another KJ insult. Every classy Blu.

If this is indeed a forum to educate, then wouldnt it only be natural that the "Worlds Greatest Pickup Artist" do a little of the educating, afterall, its not like its his company or anything ;)

[Blu]

Another KJ insult. Every classy Blu.

If this is indeed a forum to educate, then wouldnt it only be natural that the "Worlds Greatest Pickup Artist" do a little of the educating, afterall, its not like its his company or anything ;)His company is mad hot bitches. His business deals are secondary :eek: :D

[Thor]

LMAO. Your a funny dude Blu. I like that about you ;)

In all seriousness though, could Mystery post at least once a week? In talking to a few of TMM guys a recurring theme seemed to be Mystery's "lack of effort" in TMM, and something about coke? Idk about the coke bro, Ive tried it a few times and I really dont see a problem with it as long as it doesnt get in the way of business.

[C-DUB]

Give the guy a break. Seeing how large the community is, I wouldn't have enough time either to read/reply to every thread.

I'm sure he's busy enough and having fun living his own life, I don't think you should worry about his number of posts or lack of.

Go out, have fun, stop complaining.

[Thor]

Its his company, the rest of the community might be large but this forum is rather small. Is one post a week really too much for a guy who posted more than 3,000 times on ASF? His posts would give value to a forum that desperately needs it. Although we have quite a few regular guru posters but nowhere near the amount that RSD or TMM has. Mystery's presence in this company is the key to its continued success.

And besides, its not like hes raking in 6 figures from this company or anything.....

[phoenix]

It would be nice but i understand.

I mean i'm sure he is tired of posting the same messages, over and over, day after day.

Think how many times he has explained the most simple pua terms, its got to get unbearable.

I couldnt handle.

When i first got into the community, i tried to share everything with ppl, but after two years, I dont even bring it up, i dont even tell them to look up the game on google, i mean i just dont bother at all.

it gets very boring.

now maybe him posting funner stuff "Hey guys just guck two hot babes, it was a blast, how are you guys doing?" that'ed be alright.

[-Silver-]

It would be nice but i understand.

I mean i'm sure he is tired of posting the same messages, over and over, day after day.

Think how many times he has explained the most simple pua terms, its got to get unbearable.

I couldnt handle.

When i first got into the community, i tried to share everything with ppl, but after two years, I dont even bring it up, i dont even tell them to look up the game on google, i mean i just dont bother at all.

it gets very boring.

now maybe him posting funner stuff "Hey guys just guck two hot babes, it was a blast, how are you guys doing?" that'ed be alright.

Ah, so you figure that Mystery doesn't want to teach his students, because he finds it boring? Yeah I see that now! He deserves all my respect! Seriously...

God knows why he doesn't post here, and why he doesn't help out guys that could really benefit from his advice. Instead he promotes ridiculously patronising emails to try and draw out money from the new guys in the community, and so seemingly ignores the experienced ones altogether. Doesn't take a genius to realize how much of an idiot Mystery really is. Sure you can say 'Oh he's out gaming girls! You should follow by example and get out yourself! There's nothing wrong with him not posting!' but you know you're just lying to yourself. If he can find time to send an incredibly lengthy email while he's driving towards some club, then he can find time to post on his forum every now and again. The fact that he doesnt shows he has no respect for the members of his community. And so I have no respect for him.

-Silver-

[Blu]

The fact that he doesnt shows he has no respect for the members of his community. And so I have no respect for him.
-Silver-

Alls fair in love and war but to not respect a person that has achieved great success at women is nothing to sneeze at. You wont find Hugh Hefner post messages on pboy.com. He is too busy so is mystery. Ok Mystery starts posting... what does it accomplish zero. A man with responsibility leads by example HOWEVER.. he could hire a assistant to speak on his behalf such as a weekly or monthly blog later

[-Silver-]

He is too busy so is mystery.

Haha... he's not too busy. He just doesn't give a crap. Too busy to spend 15 minutes on his own students once in a while? Give me a break man. If you really believe that, you need to open your eyes.

-Silver-

[phoenix]

I'm glad he dosnt lay on his labtop all day anymore.

give the dude a break, he is going through a lot right now.

[Blu]

Haha... he's not too busy. He just doesn't give a crap. Too busy to spend 15 minutes on his own students once in a while? Give me a break man. If you really believe that, you need to open your eyes.

-Silver-Im not going to get into a cock off with you since you may want that... However it doesnt matter if he is too busy or not. Silver what do you believe he will accomplish by posting here?:confused:

[Thor]

Blu, its not about him. Its about "The Worlds Greatest Pickup Artist" spending 15 minutes a week to help out those that support him and his company.

[Blu]

Blu, its not about him. Its about "The Worlds Greatest Pickup Artist" spending 15 minutes a week to help out those that support him and his company.

Bottomline he is dam if he does dam if he dont. :D Personally maybe his geekdom is overly played out :)

[Greystoke]

Blu, its not about him. Its about "The Worlds Greatest Pickup Artist" spending 15 minutes a week to help out those that support him and his company.

How are you supporting Mystery, Thor? Have you attended his bootcamp? Are you currently buying his products?

He is helping people in his VH1 show. He has given out his method into the VAH, DVDs, free uncensored forums, the Mystery methof book, the Vh1 show and he has trained people to teach his method. Ask not what Mystery can do for you. Ask what you can do for Mystery. hehehe

[-Silver-]

So from some of the previous posts in this thread, it's evident some people have forgotten that this community used to be about helping each other out, free of charge. Now you have to fork out $2000 dollars for the best in the business to help you out? Whatever. I'm here to keep the advice free, and help out anyone who needs it, regardless of how Mystery wants to re-shape the community.

-Silver-

[seldomseen]

Tyler keeps a blog, a very good one at that and ocassionally bounces in to reply to messages on the forum. Thats a lot for a guy who continues to push new products (by the way Transformations is wonderful), hold seminars and such.
Lance bounces in his forums and post, Sinn post on MM from time to time and keeps a very good blog, Juggler post on his forum...etc, etc.

[Psych_]

Does anyone know if he posts in the lounge?...

Also I think Mystery's mindset is quite simple...he squeezed all his lemons and now he's just enjoying his lemonade

At this point his endeavors are purely for personnal gain, is this him being selfish and uncaring? Possibly. On the other hand he already came up with the method, taught it to tons of guys, created all the material and learning tools like VAH and his DVDs.

He has the money and the fame and the respect now he's going for personnal glory by starting his own TV show and publishing his own book. He has instructors doing the teaching for him (notice he doesn't do any bootcamps unless you wanna pay 10 grand and maybe not even then anymore) and he has those same instructors moderating this forum.

He doesn't care...plain and simple. Give him 10 grand or some kind of way to help him become famous and he'll care. Nothing personnal but that's just human nature when you reach the level of success that he's at.

[seldomseen]

He has the money and the fame


he doesnt have that MUCH money I'm willing to bet and he doesnt have fame. People outside the community hardly know who he is. Plenty of B list actors have more fame. How many b list actors can you name? And again money I'm willing to bet he's made a good deal but not enough to live lavish in Miama, LA or NY like the big boys live but enough to do pretty decent on.

[hrithik]

I realize that through words on a screen, it can be hard to get the intended tone across, so understand that there is no negativity expressed in my opinions here..

Tyler keeps a blog, a very good one at that and ocassionally bounces in to reply to messages on the forum. Thats a lot for a guy who continues to push new products (by the way Transformations is wonderful), hold seminars and such.
Lance bounces in his forums and post, Sinn post on MM from time to time and keeps a very good blog, Juggler post on his forum...etc, etc.

Well, it seems to me that all of these guys are former students of Mystery's, and thus they are not at his level of skillset [some are closer than others], so you can't try to hold them all to the same standard contribution and/or dedication.

Also, I feel like Mystery has already done the majority of the work, considering most of these other instructors or other programs teach Mystery's own stuff - it's not like they've got some ground-breaking new technologies going on. Granted, a few of them are fine-tuning things, but the basic theory and model were set up by Mystery. When you think of this, then honestly, what does he have left to need to contribute? He's the one who's given us what we have to work with! Anyone else just fills in little things here and there, or provides a little bit deeper insight [maybe], but we're still using the same basic method. I can't be certain what exactly Mystery feels about this, but I would think that he's made his contribution [i.e. everything we've based our game knowledge on!], and by being here and showing our support for him, we are showing that we realize and and appreciate all that he has done.

Silver, I think that Mystery [and others] charge as much as they do because they have dedicated themselves to pursuing this specific area as their expertise - it's what he/they are good at, the god-given talent that they have worked on nurturing into what they have today [like analytical mind, motivation, skillset, desire to teach others, etc]. Originally, everyone was helping everyone else, and no one was doing this full-time..that has since changed. If you were an expert at something, and then you decided to pursue teaching that subject full-time [as Mystery had and thus set up his company/ies, with instructors to carry the load, similar to any typical company from what I understand: CEO at the top, and lesser-ranked people on down from there], are you going to do that for free? If you can honestly say yes, then I would just like to know how you plan to survive without an income in this money-oriented world. And it's not like Mystery was the only one who decided to charge people for his expert advice, so it's not just him who wants to re-shape the community.

I do agree with the idea that it would be nice if Mystery popped in every now and then, if not to provide anything serious, at least check up on people and share a story or two..BUT..I think that after 10+ years of providing so much to the community [which as [I]many times screwed you over or stabbed you in the back], I'm sure that one reaches a point where you are beyond the point of being as active in the community. For example, fast-forward yourselves 10+ years from now - will each of us still be discussing all of our wise game-knowledge as actively as we do now?

Oh, and whoever said that "If he can write those lengthy emails, why not a quick post here and there?", try to realize 2 major things: 1) other guys [Style comes to mind VERY quickly] have been using this exact type of self-promotion to increase profits, and now that Mystery's business savvy is catching on to this, why wouldn't he apply it, since he is "the world's greatest PUA"? 2) is Mystery REALLY writing those emails himself, word-for-word? If not, then you can't think "he can write those emails but not post on the forum" since he's not spending chunks of time coming up with those emails..but if so, technically he IS keeping us updated on certain things [like the whole Playboy party he was invited to] going on in his life [with a lot of self-promotion in there, yes haha]..and honestly, my attitude's always been: he's very much enriched my life with the work he's put in [and that was before I'd even met the guy!], and this is what he dedicated himself to and thus became an expert at [like if you go to years of medical school, and then spend more years of study to specialize in a specific division like cardiac surgery, you're going to charge (more) for an open-heart surgery than, say, a high school English teacher]. He's earned his due, whether it's in terms of financial, respectful, and/or thankful, he's earned it!

Besides, the guy's lifestyle is that of making a living by picking up girls..? I'd say that's a pretty big sign of success, especially since not all success is measured in bank figures..although, from my impression, he's definitely NOT starving for money, and I would think that he is more financially successful than he lets on..

[Rocco]

I have the impression that what's suggested in the beginning of this thread would never become any kind of answer from the VA-team or considered in any way.

Quoting the "VA handbook", for questions and suggestions like that, the VA-team is like a HB10: unresponsive :D

[Wyclef]

Dudes don't worry about how Mystery is.. just get going with your own stuff forget about everything else

[twizt]

this is the reaosn why newb AFCs need to start a crew, bag some girls, start their own shit, sell their own seminars, books, etc. That's how it basically works.. most of these MPUA's claim to fame is with the help of mystery himself.

i agree with wyclef, learn from MM, learn from other puas, learn from yourself. Dont put too much emphasis on all the pick up technicalaties. at the end of the day, pick-up is variable. It's just how you handle that variability with combined knowledge of not just MM that will show.

mystery reached his goal, being frustrated about getting girls, and now getting basically any girl he wants. The same is true for almost EVERYONE here, because you wouldnt be here if that wasn't the case, right? Would you care anymore if your goal was accomplished?

FREE help is farfetched. He has so many instructors under his wing(no pun intended). that they can handle the dirty work for him. Considering the sterotypical image of the superAFC, i doubt you want to be talking to super AFCs majority of your free time giving out free information.

those who seek to be fed with a silverspoon are fucking stupid, there I said it. I bet mystery himself had made scarfices to be where he is today. If you worked hard for 4-5 years in college.. i think you would damn will DEMAND a good paying job for your efforts in college, not to mention the tuition!

[The Flash]

Ok I realise that he probably doesnt have enough time to be online everyday. But its his face on the front he says its his "operation" it would be nice to read somethin from him every now and then.
The Flash
P.S no anger intended

[Dox]

Does anyone know if he posts in the lounge?

judging by his post count, not a chance