smoking cigarettes: yes or no??

[JCMoney]

I've heard mixed things about this....I've heard smoking will give you the "bad boy"/James Dean look and be attractive; and of course the nasty breath/teeth/smell also. I can't say ive met any girls that LIKE smoking either.

The main question is....how much do you guys think smoking matters to a girl when you're sarging?

[Matador]

more of a negative than anything...there are other ways to go badboy (clothing, bodybuilding, & personality)

[crypticfox]

As a smoker I can tell you... it's not worth it. I've never really got any static about it, but I dont think it benefits me either... all it does is drain my wallet.

On the other hand... if you have the means, I can definately recommend enjoying a Montecristo Habana No. 4 and a nice Macallan 12 year scotch together. Not for any game benefits... just damn good.

[gamble]

I smoke, but wouldn't recommend it, but on the other hand always have a lighter.

[DarkPrince]

get a zippo, learn some tricks, Its good as a DHV. but hell no as a smoker, dont start! have the here and there Cigar, but no cigarete. and space out the cigars though, they can set a good craving!

[Greystoke]

Smoking gives you bad breath/smell, yellow teeth, smelly clothes, a lower sperm count and plenty of future health problems.

[Hawk]

Smoking gives you bad breath/smell, yellow teeth, smelly clothes, a lower sperm count and plenty of future health problems.

....and is addictive as hell.
I smoke but I never had a girl really busting on me because of it, but I would never advocate anyone to smoke!!!!!

[Priest]

Right so... Lets forget about the health problems for a sec.

Attraction is not a choice. If your game is tight she will be attracted to you either way. Solid game will make her overlook it if she finds it disgusting. Most girls our age smoke anyway so either way it doesn't matter. I have never heard of smoking being a deal breaker...

You are in the military so I assume you smoke already... I know one time I got a platoon sergent who started me smoking for a while bc I hated him and he stressed me out that much... so I understand if you need an occasional smoke. Just remember, only the weak minded allow themselves to become addicted to anything.

-Priest-

[LondonPlayboy]

The main question is....how much do you guys think smoking matters to a girl when you're sarging?

Get it straight - there are no benefits whatsover, only negatives. Think of it this way - if the girl you're sarging smokes, then it probably won't matter either way (although I even know smokers who try to avoid dating other smokers as they want to quit themselves).

If she doesn't smoke it can often be a deal-breaker.

Aside from that there's bad breath, smelly clothes, yellow teeth, less energy. Oh and possible erectile dysfunction.

[sting]

JC M,
if your thinking of starting to smoke just to help your game - FORGET IT. won't do anything special.
if you already smoke, and that decision isn't based on your PU goals - DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

don't want to get into health problem stuff - but its not a help or hindrance. you might get the odd shit test about it, just blow past - no problem.
some girls have a "i don't like smokers thing" thing that they'll verbalize. thats about as accurate as them saying a guy "isn't their type" - if the said guy's game is tight, it won't matter what she said when they convo.

In sum - smoking won't help or hinder your game.


cheers,
Sting

[Godhand]

Smoking is a negative. A non-smoker has no problem picking up smokers and non-smokers alike. A smoker, however, has no problem picking up other smokers, but may run into problems picking up non-smokers. No non-smoker wants their car, house, or clothing smelling any more like smoke than it already does from being in the club. They may try to be open and accepting upfront, but eventually this will drive them nuts. Therefor, smoking is a negative, especially the older that you get. Same with smoking weed. Oh, and cigars a just plain bad no matter what. Most cigarette smokers can't stand cigar smokers either.

[Tha Gangsta]

I've been smoking for damn near 9 years now. There's times when I wish I had never started because quitting is so God damn hard. If you are already a smoker, don't worry about it. If you've just started, you can still quit with ease. If you're a long time smoker like me... fuck it. The damage has already been done. It's still better to quit, but if she doesn't want to be with a smoker, then it's her loss.

I've found that people who smoke are better kissers. Think about it. What do you do when you put the filter in your mouth? You're basically kissing it. You learn how to manipulate the cigarette to give you the output that you're looking for. Apply that to kissing. Soft, gentle... just like a cigarette. But I wouldn't recommend making out with a cigarette. :D You'll just look like a weirdo. heh heh heh.

OG

[Yoda]

It you smoke, that's fine, (although you might want to look into giving it up, see aforementioned health reasons), but don't pick it up as a way of getting across a bad boy vibe.

It's just not worth it.

[TripleSeven]

I hit the hookah pretty frequently, but at least that has more of an exotic feel to it. Makes smoking more of an event rather than just pulling out a crumpled pack and tapping it till your cancer sticks pop their way out.

[Mild_Seven]

In Japan social attitudes towards smoking are about 30 years behind the Western world, and I've asked a lot of girls what they think of guys smoking. Around 3/4 told me they think it looks cool and makes the guy seem more like an adventurous type. Most of the other 1/4 said they didn't care either way.

I'm not a daily smoker but I've been known to smoke with a girl if she offers me one, partly to mirror her body language and partly because I enjoy it. I've also been known to light up Indonesian KRETEK (clove cigarettes) which seem to sometimes work as a DHV because all sorts of girls run over and ask me where they can buy cigarettes that smell good like that. Then when I tell them I bought these smokes at the foot of an erupting volcano before climbing it to see the lava, I start getting some interesting responses.

But that's in Japan. Back in my home country, smoking blows you out of a lot of sets and I wouldn't do it if I were you. I would only do it myself if the girl offered me one and I could use it to isolate her in the smoking area (which where I'm from is OUTSIDE IN THE COLD).

I also have a hookah I bought in Israel but that's different. Even people who hate smoking will hit the hookah with you. This is a DHV as well because I can show them how to put the hookah together, put in the tobacco and light the charcoal etc. and explain how everything works. Then I have all sorts of stories about the PLACE where I bought the thing.

[Tha Gangsta]

You got any tips on buying a quality hookah? I'm not lookin' for some cheap bong. I can find one of those anywhere. I just want to know how to find a quality hookah and if you know of any websites where I can get one for a good price.

OG

[Pounding]

when I was 19. i thought it would be cool to start smoking. but it did want to smoke cigarettes so i started smoking cigars. then I move to a pipe. a pipe is a cool peacocking accessory. but after a few years of a pipe my teeth got rotten. I said fuck it and stopped, who needs 4 more cavities and a root canal.


I do occationaly love to smoke a mild seven now and then. I carry a pack of those or some other JDM cigs. (the US dosen't have 10packs) I used them to open asain girls. I try not to ever smoke them myself.

[jadler]

just rummaged through the old posts and i like this one. what's the current standing on this? yay or nay? i smoke a lil but not alot...

[The Wild One]

You don't need to smoke at all! I've smoked on and off now! It's not good for you and not necessary. You can use smoking as a way to move your target to a comfort building location. You can say, "Hey you wanna go smoke?"..I actually used this move last night it worked really well. You can then either smoke with her passing the cigarette etc..or you can wait for her to ask why your not smoking, and then reply with a smile o I don't smoke. Pretty simple but in the end just do what you want.

[jadler]

cool yeah i've been trying to quit. I just thought that this looked like an interesting topic.

I've seen before that smoking is a good way to meet and isolate, maybe I'll try it out.

[hexxeh]

the wild one: that would perfectly work, however, only if you know for sure that your target actually smokes otherwise;

you: Hey you wanna go smoke?
target: I don't smoke
you: :-\

[Sm00thie]

This is by far the stupidest question I've seen posted here. How needy are you to start a gross habit just to only potentially look more "badboy"?


just my 2 cents.

[jadler]

good point :-\

as an on and off smoker i thought this had realevance to my game. guess not....

[The Wild One]

the wild one: that would perfectly work, however, only if you know for sure that your target actually smokes otherwise;

you: Hey you wanna go smoke?
target: I don't smoke
you: :-\

Yeah good point typically I use this if I notice the target smokes. I smell it on her, or see her pack lying on the table. Last night my target was on a couch and her cigarettes where on the table in front. I sat down next to her and after getting threw attraction then bounced her outside. Then we went downtown to club before coming back to my place. I've ran that one a few times I wouldn't be that foolish. Most of the time you can tell your target wants some alone time with you especially if you're good at being able to judge which girls want to get laid and are eager. Some women are just psychologically unavailable and guys don't realize how to tell which women are single and looking or just out to brush away guys since they've been couped up in a four year relationship and want to see if they're still sexually interesting.

[Kahuna Cowboy]

If you hang at bars, night clubs, pool halls, etc... smoking is the norm and not a problem. Outside of these smoke clouded rooms however you stink, you have to stand in the cold and rain during the winter months to smoke, the smell of cigarettes gets into your clothes, hair, and can overpower your cologne.... oh, and bad breath! All this for the low, low price of about $5 bucks a pack nowadays.

There are a lot of drawbacks to smoking with no positives, being a non-smoker is a win/win deal. No one thinks less of you for not smoking, not the same when reversed. The one potential upside is "if" you are in a place where you have to smoke outside, and "if" you are gaming a girl in this place, and "if" she might smoke, you can isolate her innocently by going outside to smoke together. Of course she might be with others who smoke and will join you killing that one long shot upside.

I say this as a long time smoker now, OG from the late 90's era of partying. Stay away from it, nothing good can come from it.

[Andre`]

It's quite interesting how times change isn't it?
Before, you had hollywood superstars like the Charlton hestons etc smoking giving them that touch of class and alpha masculinity.
These days, it's almost always the short fat balding crook who smokes the cigarrettes nervously one after the other.
Now unless you are going to go out with a grandma, my best bet would to avoid cigarrettes. Why bother trying to acquire a horrible addiction - you are basically paying someone to slowly kill you. Dont know about you, but there are way too many beautiful women for me to leaving this world anytime soon.

[smoosh]

I've seen before that smoking is a good way to meet and isolate, maybe I'll try it out.

It defenetly works for me!! And most of the HB's I know like to smoke with you when out to have fun especially weed!

It is defenetly a very good way to isolate to confort or seduction area! Never has failed for me. Plus you both have a blast of a fun time!!! You also come off as this guy who like to enjoy the plesures in life and is laidback and not judging others for their habit.

I don't smoke cigarettes. But I don't mind enjoing one with friends or a hot HB every now and then.

~Smoosh

[drpua]

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