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Emmanuel Jean Joseph
07-16-2007, 09:05 PM
I usually go out with the same people and there's this girl who always hangs out with us and she's like a 7 at best(2 out of 3 personality and good energy). I only sarge her because she plays hard to get and she's good practice. So i've met her before I became a PUA and I was pretty much AFC and beta, so I stayed away from her. Now that I started sarging, more and more did she found me attractive, I could tell cuz alot if IOI's were popping out especially the toutching part. So after a lot of techniques I finally got a big makeout session at a club and a kiss good night in front of every one in her car before she dropped me off.
Now I just started to talk to her again after like 3 days and she is playing hard to get even more and she is even pushing me away with negs LOL. I still play it cocky-funny and counter attack with negs but she said that she will try to avoid me from now on and I think she's serious , it's like she see's me as some kind of threat to her now. My question is WTF happened lol ? is it like a shit test? (wich i'm failing by the way haha) and what should I do when I see her next time? should I sarge hotter girls and kiss them so that she can see or should I just avoid her,sarge other girls and wait for her to come to me ? i'm lost here.
thanx for the reply.
Abower The Don
07-17-2007, 08:08 AM
Your too much in your comfort zone, you should get out there and learn new experiences. Its good that she likes you and all, and those are shit tests yeah, but you should drop the case. Tell her it was all in good fun and don't be weird about it. That's how to keep your options open, man. And don't be afraid to mess up with another girl in front of her, because if I understand correctly, she's still your friend. Good luck with it!
Daras
07-18-2007, 05:35 AM
There are a lot of unknown variables to anyone who's going to reply to your post here. But I'll make it simple.
She's a 7 - expect her to be a LSE girl
You've known her a LONG time
You made out with her once
She's freaked out about it
She thinks you just want sex now
She wants to keep away from you because you did poor rapport and comfort building when you made out with her
ASD is up
If it was me. I'd have gotten her isolated before the makeout session, because:
#1: I want sex, not kissing. Forget kissing, it's for high school kids.
#2: She likes me now, and she may see my social status in the group as low due to knowing me when I did not have social value, she won't want to damage her own value. That's very bad for her S&R.
#3: You can build way more comfort while isolated, expecially if she knows it's a secret between the two of you.
Next I will call her the next day. Only needy guys that want to convey that they are not needy wait for three days. I'll fluff, say I only had a minute because I'm about to go out and do whatever, but I felt like calling her. If you say you wanted to call her, it's different, women think with their emotions and feelings, if you felt like calling her, it's okay. She understands. She likes hearing that.
Now, of course if she negs me I neg her back, but I'd rather make her feel awkward for negging me at this point into the pick up. If she says I'm dorky because I like a certain movie or whatever, I'll pull a Tom Cruise on her.
"What's so dorky about doing things that I like along with enjoying my life?"
"What's wrong with wanting to be happy?"
"Why are you apologizing? Why not be a writer guy? Who are those guys? They're talented people who write about things that people are interested in." Then he continued, mockingly, "No, you don't want to be one of those guys who's creative and expressive." - Tom Cruise in "The Game" by Neil Strauss
She'll feel awkward, and feel bad for it. She'll want to make it up to you.
But to help you and not imply theory on what would have happened to another person and not you.
She's either scared of being hurt, scared of her social status being hurt, or she's not into you when her buying temperature is not up.
Tom Cruise her, make her feel awkard. Say it felt right at the time but you'd never want to jeopardize your friendship with her, and you wanna be just friends. She'll agree. Immediately bust into a story telling dhv "OMG I so forgot to tell you!", laugh, 5 questions game, laugh more, your bet will be a backrub. If she says no back rub, roll your eyes, look away (punish her via body language) and say "You probably give horrible back rubs anyways" She's in. Women are so competitive. She's got a win-win now. She wins by proving you're wrong about back rubs, or she gets a back rub and you loss at the game. Games over - you win. (I've never lost) Minor neg - you're horrible I have to show you how it's done! Massage her, build that buying tempature up. Kiss her... the rest you should already know.
Broken down:
You showed no sexual interest, but at the time it "felt" right. For both of you, that's good enough reasoning for a woman.
You dhv'd immediately and played a game with her, you're having fun, she remembers she really does like you and wishes she could have you.
You build her buying temperature up.
You take what is rightfully yours.
Good luck friend, I hope to have been some help to you.
Emmanuel Jean Joseph
07-19-2007, 07:00 PM
Wow you know your kung well my friend :D. thanks alot for the reply I really appreciate the cold hard facts, I gotta learn to accept the critics :D hope we talk again once I sharpen my skills. thanks again
I like the quote about tome cruise makes me wanna read the game again lol
Emmanuel Jean Joseph
07-19-2007, 07:04 PM
thanks to both of you i'm alreay back in the game with her she keeps up the shit tests but she's always the one who talks to me now. I guess I gotta learn more and of course going out this week-end to sarge fresh new girls will always help gotta get the field experience :D
Daras
07-20-2007, 04:22 AM
Sounds great man I'm happy for you.
Give it a few days and tell her during the afternoon after you do a real good dhv and get her laughing or really enjoying talking to you, that you're going out with some friends to whatever that night (embelish, make it sound like it's going to be the best thing ever, so even if she doesn't come, she knows you're gonna have a great time without her) and when she sounds happy for you, tell her yeah too bad you can't come.
She'll ask why
You tell her "My friends would ruin you, you're too much of a nice girl."
She'll blow it off "Oh whatever" "I'm so not" et cetera
You say "Alright fine, since you really wanna come I'll come pick you up around 7ish." (You say it, you don't ask it. Alpha)
If she doesn't wanna or makes an excuse say "Aw too bad, I don't think my date would like you anyways, she's the jealous type."
Don't push her to go, that's way too needy and is a GIGANTIC DLV, like huge. That's why you never got her number before.
By making whatever you're going to do sound like it's going to be a blast, there's no weight on her to say yes; no pressure, no tension. It'll make her wanna go more.
If she doesn't go, you build jealousy and show preselection. You also display you're going to have fun without her, which displays nonneediness. Along with you being a fun outgoing guy.
If she does decide to go with you (If you've built your rapport up in the last few days and showed good value, she'll definitely wanna go) then you have a good chance at really gaming her.
Slow kino escalation with online chicks, keep it unawkward for her. If she's quiet you have to keep the conversation going and do fun shit. Keep a few games like 5 questions on your cheat sheet (i hide my cheat sheet in my cell phone under "notes" it makes them think I'm being texted which gives you social proof while you're checking your cheat sheet, how pimp is that), and at least one or two more dhv stories.
Getting that shit irl ASAP is super important man. It's your #1 goal with online girls, hence why keeping sexual tension low is a must until you meet them. You gotta go in under the radar with them.
Phrases in person like "Wow I thought you'd be a huge 500 pound guy" and tiny negs that make it seem like you never go for girls online, will lower her guard a lot when you meet her.
Enjoy friend
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