Yes, Gaming at Church

[GeoClassic]

Yo. I know a lot of people are gonna hate me for this, but I've seen some really hot chicks at church. I sat next to this busty blonde at church last week and was like damn!
You know, I'm kind of agnostic and just started going to church for the same reason many unbelievers go to church... the ladies! Anyway, I introduced myself to this girl and was like "Hey I'm new... my name is Geo, blah, blah, blah... how is it here? Then Joel Osteen starts talking and ruins my game. So I was cut short and didn't have enough time to game this girl.
So guys, I need some quick picker uppers for Christian girls in age range 18 to 25. Any advice? If you can figure this out, I would consider you a brilliant day gamer.

[ricky]

Then Joel Osteen starts talking and ruins my game. So I was cut short and didn't have enough time to game this girl.
If you mean with Joel Osteen as 'christian the priest' (I don't know the correct english word, what is it?) and everyone is quiet then start thinking creatively. I guess you could write things on a paper and have an msn like convo. Or just play tic tac toe with her :P It all depends on the situation and how seriously she takes it ofcourse.

Furthermore when I think of church I think of a large social group. So you can build up social proof there if you're going there more often.

And when I think of Christians I think of: reframe everything that she knows about sex from the Bible :D

[GeoClassic]

Hey, thanks for your advice ricky. I guess church is kind of difficult. I don't know if I'll try this tic tac toe think as it will probably lower my value in her eyes, but social proofing is definitely a good start, but I would think a lengthy process. Lately I have given thought to this matter and perhaps pretending to be in sync with this whole Christian thing might be my best action. I'm also thinking maybe I should neg her to begin with in a joking way? Maybe like, "Whoa! That dress is a little too skimpy for church don't you think?" Stuff like that.
You know, I've been trying to pick up in Christian settings and girls seem to like being negged. They seem to be fascinated with the jerk of the bunch maybe because all truly Christian guys are AFCs (no ofense to those Christian PUA) who are nice all the time, something that these girls might be sick of. From what I have noticed, if a Christian guy is trying to pick up a girl there is no way that he will neg her, on the other hand he will qualify himself and start to build comfort, something totally against the PUA book. This of course will immediately put him in the friends zone since he has skipped the essential attraction part. Of course, I've seen this exact same scenario in real life, with a kid in my college who was friends with this girl for 2 yrs before he even dated her.
Anyway, yep, Christian settings are pretty much uncharted territory. I'm certain that your average Christian guy is no match for even the novice PUA. Of course, you have to be persuasive enough to break her bond from extremely conservative christian mentality like not having sex before marriage.

[ricky]

Lol come to think of it, I actually had a Christian girlfriend for a while :P Yea, I know my memory serves me well. I didn't game her at church, but at the idols auditions. Well I didn't exactly game her, she thought I looked cute, all I did was took initiative to approach and be cool and not fucking it up. And mostly I fuck it up when I try to neg so I just don't. But I can be brutally honest though :cool:

Anyway a few things I've learned from her:
- there is no way to know how conservative a Christian is. Because this girl (who I still talk to), lol she thinks about sex A LOT. We were one time going out and she saw this lamp posts and was totally laughing like:"HAHHAHAHAHA A LAMPPOST!" And I didn't got it and then she told me she saw a dick in it. The only thought that came to my mind:"Shit... there are like millions of lampposts in this city alone..."

- the church is a lot of social conditioning and has a lot of social pressure on people too. Aka brainwashing, at least for some people it can feel like they are being brainwashed. I'm not bashing on christianity, I'm bashing on the fact that the church puts a lot of pressure on people who don't know if they should believe in god and are being dragged along by their parents because "they have to go". Because of this many people are still uncertain about certain believes of the church or are not faithful at all if you are in isolation. They won't show as much ASD as normal church members.

They seem to be fascinated with the jerk of the bunch maybe because all truly Christian guys are AFCs (no ofense to those Christian PUA) who are nice all the time, something that these girls might be sick of. From what I have noticed, if a Christian guy is trying to pick up a girl there is no way that he will neg her Yea this seems like basic marketing and basic pickup advice that isn't in the books which is: differentiate yourself in a positive way. And negging can be a positive thing if done right.

Lately I have given thought to this matter and perhaps pretending to be in sync with this whole Christian thing might be my best action. I'm also thinking maybe I should neg her to begin with in a joking way? Maybe like, "Whoa! That dress is a little too skimpy for church don't you think?" Stuff like that. As long as your frame is strong enough you can get away with anything and in order to be a non believer that goes to church regulary, you need a stronger frame than one who is a believer :P The path of least resistance is always cool.

Yea maybe you could do that, I think you have to really fieldtest it, I don't have any experience with it. I'm not good at negging at all, at least not consciously. I'll bash someone to the ground sometimes with my honesty. Stuff like:"You have a really weird fashion sense." *neg 1*
Her:"Thats not nice to say."
Me:"I wasn't finished!" *neg 2*
Her:*feels inpolite*
Me:"And because of that you, you look weird i find you very attractive. It shows to me you have a personality and are not affraid to show it. And honestly I love that style that you wear, eventhough I know it's weird. I can't actually figure it out why I like it so you got my full attention."

^ so with stuff like that I can neg, but only because I meant it at the time and not because I wanted to 'generate attraction'. Maybe you can use this I don't know thats why I wrote it down. It worked and I was being genuine :P

I would be more subtle and playful with the negs tough, so if I have your: "Whoa! That dress is a little too skimpy for church don't you think?" I would transform it into:"I think if god was looking at you right now see you wearing this dress you would get him shy."
She'd be like:"Oh really why?" or "Haha" And you could be like:"So are you happy now? Having him all shy? You're such a brat." Lol it's easier in english for me to come up with this stuff. If she asks the "why" question be sure to explain it though, it sucks to explain things but maybe it will still work if you go trough with it.

I don't know.
Because...
The last time I was in church I was 15 and I was at the ending of it :D