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Doonagoowin
06-29-2009, 07:24 PM
Okay people. This is my introduction, my journal, and my life story.

*Note: I mean no offense to anybody whatsoever in here. If you feel that something is offensive, PM me about it. I'll be happy to discuss.

I'm a new member here, and I have been prowling around on here since fall of '08. My friend had been reading MM to deal with his own girlfriend. He was losing her and this was his way to keep her. I really lost contact with both of them now, but I daresay they were happily together last time I checked. After that, I lost interest in the VA for a while. Beginning of summer break, I pulled this up in my bookmarks tab. Needless to say, I'm back into the VA.

I decided to change my life entirely around. Instead of sitting around doing nothing, I'm taking charge. Instead of dawdling and messing around in school, I'm going to do better (bs'ing and still fucking around of course! :cool: ), and just living life to the fullest.

To start off, I'm giving my basic information. It seems a bit absurd, but it's to get to know me more. I feel I can defend myself just fine in case any of you guys are creepo's :p.

Name: ---

Race: Asian - Vietnamese

Location: Utah

Age: 16. I know some of you guys are thinking I'm young, but it's not just to meet up girls. More on this later.

Body: 6'1"ish and ~185 pounds. I got a weird stomach:o (you'll see)...

Hobbies: Photography, football, hockey, digital multimedia, RC, airsoft and more! I enjoy learning and talking about these things, among others, so hit me up.

I feel like I'm forgetting something... Ah! SS number! (bad joke) :)

I was born in Vietnam, but I never grew up there. I moved to the Philippines refugee camp when I was a few months old. I reached America at a very young age (I'm going to have to memorize my past... Could make for some interesting history threads). I lived in the same house for all of my elementary life. Finally, we moved to a new and much better neighborhood when I was in 7th grade.

Nowhere, did I feel I truly belonged. I wasn't the kind of guy that wants to be a gangbanger, wearing all those baggy hip-hop clothes (old neighborhood). Up here, everybody has the best of everything. If not the best, well they had something. Boats, jetskis, golfcarts, you name it. I guess moving to a private school threw me in with some of the richest people here... Let me tell you, it bugs me everyday of my life (I know it shouldn't. I'm getting better with it though).

Moving on, I'm the oldest in my family. The first to go to college (if I don't blow it). Obviously, I was held back a lot when I was little. My parents, all they talked about was school, school, school. I was usually at home, even with all my homework done. I was hardly allowed out. Maybe the occasional party here and there, but otherwise, I was that stereotypical Asian nerd (although with a perfect English accent, no offense). I was shy, not athletic, introverted, not adept at social gatherings. The only thing my parents said regarding sex and the opposite sex: no girlfriends til you graduate college (psh, who listens to parents? Just being honest). It has made a huge impact on my life today (or so I feel).

After being the shy, quiet, smart guy, I have decided I want to be the outgoing, fun person. I'm tired of sitting in the corner during school dances, tired of not being invited to parties (I have already noticed an improvement in this since reading about some inner game, confidence, etc), tired of just feeling left out. Sure I have friends, but nobody is close or truly understands me. And girls. Just a whooooole nother story. I'll tell you more about that in a few.

I truly believe that this will help me improve in all the aspects of life. I mean, this is probably the longest I've written, so it will definitely help in scholarly affairs. The VA is aimed at girls, so of course I'll be better with girls. My life will be changed after this. I'm sure of it.

Well, this post has been quite scattered and really long, but hey. I'm sure you guys can help me improve in life here. There's Dream's thread that has changed his life around. He's not the only one, but his was the first thread up on Best of the Forums :P. There's guys and girls here with focuses on just about everything. Bodybuilders/health gurus, cooks, inspirational speakers. Just the whole shabang.

Good to let go of everything that's bottled up for so long.

If there's anything you wanna ask me, go ahead. I'm sure I've left many things out.

I will keep you guys updated!

Doonagoowin
06-29-2009, 07:49 PM
*Note: Not everything I say in this journal will be 100 accurate. I'm bound to forget something at some time.

I guess my format will be writing, then I will write anything about The Game under that heading, in case anybody wants to just skip everything else.

Starting off today.

I woke up at 7AM. Showered, and got read for football weights/conditioning.

Arrived at school at 7:55AM. Started off with the warmup. Bodyweight squats and lunges. 3 sets of pushups for 10 seconds. Warmup/workout or shoulders with flies, bent over flies, front raisers, presses, and hold above our head. 30 seconds each. Then we did a round of holding kettlebell out in front (dunno the name), waiter walks, farmer bars, etc. Half of us went outside to do agility warmups, the other half stayed in for pullups, BW (bodyweight) rows, and situps with medicine balls.
*We do the same warm-up everyday, so if I can get the whole warm-up, I'll post the actual thing.

Next, we went into the workout. I hurt my back earlier in the year, so some of the things they did, I did differently
5-4-3-2-1-1-2-3-4-5
-Squat (chained)* ---I did KB (kettlebell) goblet squats
-Bench (chained)*
-Lunges ---I did bodyweight
-Box Jumps
-Bent over rows ---I did bodyweight
-Hang clean ---KB swings

Afterwards, we went out to the field and did our conditioning. First, we ran 2 laps around the field. Then the coach set up a box, 5 yards x 5 yards. Sprints around the box, sidesteps around the box, backpedals, etc. Then we went into the actual running. Sideline to sideline shuttle runs, one set, three times. Down and back is one time.

By the time we were done, I was gasping for air. And my mouth was dry as hell... I definitely need to drink more water.

Workouts go on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday morning until August 7. Mandatory practices. Then we go right into Two-a-days. I wish I was one of those guys that actually look forward to these things... Unfortunately, I'm not, so it makes it that much harder.

By 10AM, we were done. I went home, cooled down on the treadmill for like 5 minutes (am I doing this right?) Started off with and incline of 5% and 2.0MPH, then every 30 seconds, I kicked it up by .1. So 2.1, 2.2, and so on. Then I did a little running, maybe 30 seconds, and walked for a minute at 2.0 then stopped.

My friends and I were going to go to the pool later on, so I didn't feel like showering then. I wanted the cold water to hit me all at once :)

At 12PM, I ate lunch. Dropped my brother off at the movies, then arrived at the pool at like 2. Another friend showed up (I've shown these three the PUA material, so they're into this with me.) By 3, we decided it was too crowded and we were going to hit the mall.

The Game

We went home and freshened up. Reached the mall at like 4 or so.

Unfortunately, nothing to report today... To be honest, we're all pretty much frozen with AA everytime we go out.
We've been practicing this to combat our AA though: Talk to anybody. Say hi, ask the time, etc. It's been working, but just not as well as we'd like. Still practicing.
Oh yeah, we're also at the point where we just check out girls from a distance. Remember those teenage days? She's hot over there. Oh babe! 2oclock! Stuff like that. :)
So anyways, one guy had to be home by 5, so we called it a day.

As I was milling around the house, just thinking about everything, I decided to make this journal. Help me keep track of everything.

That's basically it for today.

P.S. I need a little ending for my posts... Remember Bruce Almighty? "And that's the way the cookie crumbles" Something like that. :)

MaybeSo
06-30-2009, 04:20 AM
damn, 16? if you stick with pick up, no telling where your game will be going.

Anyways, this is a seduction forum. You might want to post stuff more related to seduction.

Seriouly, dont really care about what time you took a shit today, what time you woke up, or what type of workout you did.

A journal about your whole life should be kept private cause no one aint gonna read it unless you become famous. If this happen, it will be worth good amount of money.

My advice to you:

*IF you want to suceed in Pick Up, have a pick up journal online or private. This will help you keep track. Same goes for other things your tryin to progress with. IF your posting online, make sure its related to the specific website.

azazels_wolf
06-30-2009, 06:40 AM
Health, wealth, and relationships are all very relevant to this forum because they are all integral to becoming your best self and finding happiness and balance in your life.

I can however move this to the Personal Goals section.

Doonagoowin
06-30-2009, 10:04 AM
Thank you Azazels. This would probably be a better place for it. And yes, I figured that health, wealth, and love would all be integrated into here, just like MM said. So this will help me out a lot, as I've said before.

And MaybeSo, I was reading a few journals online (I will post them up here later) and I decided it would really help me out. It helped out the other two, and I'm pretty much following their protocol. Although, I did stick with the workout too much. I'll shorten that down next time.

Dream's:
http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14218

BabyFaceAssassin's:
http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3653

Nothing new to mention here, as it's only 11AM. More to come later tonight.

P.S. If you guys have any writing tips, it'd be hugely appreciated. I'm not much of a writer, so I have no idea about organization or any of that advanced stuff.

Doonagoowin
06-30-2009, 09:45 PM
Alright sorry guys, not much to update on today.

Woke up at 11AM, watched a few episodes of VH1's Pickup Artist and read a few more posts on here.

Then my brother and I just went fishing. It was a rather uneventful day.

'Til next time!

Doonagoowin
07-01-2009, 07:32 PM
Wow, today was rather hectic.

Woke up at 8. I ran late for football, so I had to do extra running/conditioning... Lesson? Don't be late!

Afterwards, I headed up to my mom's nail shop. The one where they do all the fashion stuff, making people's nails look good. I'm supposed to be working for my parents up there, but I totally forgot how to do it. Had to go up there to practice. Now some may be laughing, but it's good money! Over 20 bucks an hour compared to a measley 7.50 or whatever for minimum wage.

Game Observations

While at the shop (it's inside a Wal-Mart), I noticed this. Almost all the cashiers were just doing there job. Not talking or having fun, just scan. Scan. Scan. Then there's this one guy. Mind you, he's not a "regular" guy. He's probably late 20's, early 30's. He's the kind of guy that has a little extra baggage, pants pulled high, tucked in shirt. But guess what. He was the one having the most fun! He didn't care what others said or thought. He had this really loud voice and just talked about whatever he wanted. The customers leaving his line were having a lot better time (smiling, laughing, talking, etc) and it showed when they left. If these cashiers got tip, I bet he'd be making the most.

My point? He has a loud, care-free voice. How can I practice to get like that? I realize that working in the nail shop will help (making the customer feel better and having fun will get you more tip), but I'm not about to start working on anybody's hands soon.

The bad thing about my voice, is that I'm a shy person. So I don't talk that loud with strangers.
---How would you guys recommend going about this?

Lately, I've been smiling, walking slower, more deliberate movements, and talking slower/clearer. These are the pro's I notice so far. The con is, like I've said, volume.

That's all for today!

P.S. We won an intense hockey game today. Whoohoo!

Doonagoowin
07-02-2009, 08:29 PM
Alright! Today's post is all about game! Well, mostly.

Ok, I woke up a little late today: 12PM.

Something hit me... I really need to go practice my gaming.
So little things here and there, reading on here, etc.

The Game

Then at about 4-5, I hit up the local mall, which is conviently ~2 miles from my house. There were a few groups there. I had major AA, and I was just looking for a casual sports coat/blazer. I called my good friend (who I've shown to and talked about MM and stuff) and he was cleared to go out (parents), so I had to go pick him up (his dad won't let him take the car...). We headed to the local mall, and a few of his church friends were there, so that helped us get into a talkative mood. Didn't open yet.

We decided to go check out another mall. This one was ~7 miles away. It's still under remodeling construction, but has great potential once finished. Absolutely no girls here (no joke!). We didn't even have to make excuses to not talk to girls (bad habit :P).

On the drive back to the first mall, we decided to do something to help us talk to people. We laid down a 10 dollar bet (we would use the 200 one, but hey. We're broke teens with no steady income yet...). If he didn't talk to one set, I'd get the 10, and vice-versa. This really helped, in my opinion.

Right when we walked in, I got opened. These two girls (a lot younger, boooo) asked to take my picture (I have rather crazy hair. Imagine Goku or something haha) saying they were having a picture taking contest with their friends (honestly, I dunno what they really wanted). So I milked out the conversation, just working on talking loud and proud. I noticed other people were watching as the flashes went off. "Would you rather be the one being watched, or doing the watching?" I got a taste of the one being watched. Honestly, it wasn't as bad as I imagined. Then as I walked off, I told them they need to email it to me. I'm only interested in the pictures haha. My friend and I had a little debate, and we took off 5 bucks for me. Good thing too, it encouraged me to do more. The set helped me get pumped for later.

After one round around the mall, I opened a set. Running on the momentum from before, I didn't even think about it. I had sprayed Bod Silver on one wrist, and Old Spice Classic on the other (hey I'm too poor for cologne). I asked which one was their favorite. The Bod won out. I only opened and ejected.

Here were the flaws in this open:
-They were walking the opposite way. I couldn't help that.
-The first time I said something, they didn't hear anything. So I tried again and they actually heard me. Went rather smoothly after that.
-I only talked to one girl and had her smell my wrists. Now that I look back, I should have tried to get both of them to smell it.
-I probably could have transitioned to the best friend gambit.
-Ejected too early.
---Live & Learn---

Then, this was the most interesting thing that happened today. We got opened by like 5 girls, maybe 14-15. Didn't look much older. They said they were doing an interview for school (I called them out on this and they said they went to year round school), and even had a camera ready. Then they started asking some pretty weird, fucked up questions. Here's how it went:

Them: What's your guys' names?
Us: Du and ***
Them: Okay, what are you doing at the mall?
Us: Uhh (we were at a loss. We were there to practice game, but tell them that? Nahhh)
Them: Come on. Picking up girls, shopping, hanging out?
Us: Yeah sure! All that!
Them: Okay. Now we're getting personal. 1million dollars or make out and fall in love with the hottest girl on earth.
Us: The money! I'll just go find another girl.
Them: Blah blah blah, then you won't be loved for ever.
Us: *blank stare, thinking* Aww, screw you guys, this question's hard.
Them: Okay then, we'll move on. Would you rather...... cut off the tip of your penis or kiss a guy?
Us: That's fucked up! Are you sure this is for school?
Them: Yeah! Health class!
Us: I doubt it, but I'd choose kiss a guy.
Them: Okay, that's all. Thanks!

Then we saw them "interviewing" another set of guys. We walked around avoiding the girls, and came up the group of guys. Talked about random things and the "interview". Yep, they were asked the same questions.

WTF???

What I achieved:
-Loud, slow, clear voice
-Slow body movements. I did find my hands moving to my face at times, and I was speeding up a little, but I'm improving.
-Opened my first set!

Need to work on:
-Loud, slow, clear voice everywhere. When I was talking to my bud, I was returning to the normal speech... Gotta drop that habit.
-Better body control.
-Focus on body language
-Don't eject too early

Yeah! That's it for today! I feel we did rather good.

Can't wait for football workout tomorrow.... /sarcasm/ Balls.....

Doonagoowin
07-03-2009, 11:10 PM
Football workout was hell again... We didn't life today, but did running, bear crawls, burpees, etc. (I believe this is called an anearobic excercise or something?) for one straight hour. Only a five minute water break in the middle...

The Game

Today, I was confronted with my first AMOG battle. I was hanging out with a few friends later in the day, and one guy told me to take off my ring and bracelets, cuz it was 'flamer' (homo).
My response: I'll wear what I want.

Was that a good way to respond?

There was a stomp going on from 9PM-1AM tonight. Nobody that I usually go with was available to go, so I bailed. It's a small "club/dance" setting. They play hip-hop and some techno.
My complaints about the place:
-They won't let us grind. I mean, WTF? If a security dude happens to walk by and sees a couple grinding, they'll just pull them apart. Usual thing that happens is the couple just walks away to another part of the floor. It can be a mood killer though.
-Only one room. So the music is just drilling into your head. Seriously, after the night's over and you walk out, you have to yell to hear yourself.

The reason I go sometimes is because it helps with dancefloor game, body language, and like no talking at all. And it's kinda fun once I get over my nervousness and self-consciousness (I can't dance).

Doonagoowin
07-08-2009, 09:40 AM
Wow, I missed a bunch of days didn't I?

Well, Saturday and Sunday I just went camping, nothing happening there.

The Game

Monday was an awesome day. I was hanging out with a few of my friends. They know nothing about pickup. One is going to be a natural, I'm pretty sure of it.

A few things from that day. We went to teh mall to pick up some food. When we were sitting down, we were having a blast. Just being loud and crazy. Got a whole bunch of stares and a few people pointed and laughed (my friend did something rather stupid) One of them was a pretty average two-set.

So a few questions here: should I have gone over and opened? Used a situational opener about my friend's actions or something? Possibly a neg open: "Hey, it's not nice to laugh at other people *smile*".

We headed over to a Laundromat, where two cute chicks were working (friend's friend). I noticed I was talking a lot more than normal. And a much louder voice. Thinking back, I was glad I didn't do what I would have done normally (which the other dude was doing), which was standing kinda in the background not doing much, looking around, like a third wheel. I didn't get a number or anything (my friend, FutureNatural, was the obvious alpha, controlling the conversation), but I felt a huge improvement in social game. I will keep improving.

Then we were hollering at people walking down the street. One set happened to be a pretty hot two-set. So we just pulled over and talked to them. I couldn't get in much words wise, because they were talking about Natural's old school/girl's current school. I didn't know anything about it, and I didn't know how to steer the conversation into more "public (lack of a better word)" territory. That set didn't go anywhere because they weren't really interested.

Later that night, we went to go say hi to one of the Laundromat girls. It was really cool. We met her dad (who was one helluva guy) and another girl I've never seen before (turns out she used to go to school with Natural too ): ). I was still talking a lot more than normal. If only the dad wasn't out there, we probably coulda tried to get more out of it. It was more of a conversation between us and her dad... unfortunately.

Now if I can only figure out how to calibrate and just start multiple interesting threads. Then me and Natural could isolate each girl and take it from there. Instead of all the focus being on Natural.

Oh, and I have to talk to him about picking up girls. Winging and the such. I think we could probably make a great team if he was down for it.

Then yesterday, we just went boating. I'm getting a lot less self conscious of my body too. Of course I'm still embarrassed around girls, but the more confident I get, the less I could give a fuck.

P.S. Football still sucks. We got a hockey game tonight against sister school/rival a.k.a. archenemy, so wish us luck!

Peace.

Doonagoowin
07-14-2009, 02:52 PM
Bleh, I've missed quite a few days.

My excuse:

I got a concussion/amnesia/cerebral strain last Wednesday's game. I'm spacing out a lot, so I don't really remember anything that's going on.

For instance, my mom came home from work and found me cuddled up, asleep on the stairs? Then, I guess I broke a cup too.

I'm feeling a little better. Headache's are on and off, but mainly on. I can't remember any details of anything I do.

So just an update for you guys.

P.S. Almost 100 views! Yay!

Doonagoowin
07-15-2009, 10:23 PM
I'm gonna get this next part done, so I don't forget it on account of brain damage... Good thing is, I'm spacing out less often.

The Game

Okay, I went to our hockey game today. I couldn't play, so I was chilling with these two girl friends of mine.

Here's what I noticed that I did quite well:

1) I maintained good eye contact with both girls. Even if I was talking to one, I would involve the other one with eye contact.
2) I was really paying attention to BL. Albeit, I might have let a few things slip, but I was leaning back and away from them. In turn, they always leaned in when they wanted to talk. Alpha :)
3) Nice loud voice. I noticed they didn't lean in or ask me to repeat anything. I was also catching the attention of some of the adults/parents there, and involving some of them into our conversations.
4) Payed attention to negs/IODs. They worked quite nicely.
5) Was a bit more touchy. Read: More kino.

What could be improved:

1) When one of them touched me, I allowed it, without thinking about it. Thinking back, I should have done push/pull, or a "this isn't free" gambit. (Is gambit the right word?)
2) Even more kino! My goal is to be a massive toucher. :P

I'm still texting the both of them now. I don't know how you guys use it, but text has really replaced talking on the phone for this generation, unless it's just me.

That's all for today!

Doonagoowin
07-19-2009, 01:07 AM
I was basically grounded the last two days... My dad said I went out too much and some other things. Then the idiot in me decided to punch the wall... hehe

Okay, I went to the concert for The Fray today. Good band by the way.

The Game

I went to the concert with one Natural and two girls. It was one of the best times I've ever had.

I could tell I've improved a lot. I sat there for a few minutes thinking about some thigns in between conversations. So I had time to think over what I did, and what I planned on doing.

My plan on becoming more touchy is being accomplished. I was definitely ramped up on kino. We were having a great time there. The only thing I probably could have done was join in the dances and was more active. We were sitting down most of the time, and singing.

One strange thing did occur today though. A girl came up to me out of nowhere and started holding my hand. Her group of mixed friends behind her were laughing. I was totally clueless. So we joked, talked a little. I asked her if it was a dare, she said no. She asked my name, we exchanged. She asked me if the girl I was with was my girlfriend, I said no. She squeezed my hand. More small, very small, talk. Then as my group left, she came up to me and asked me where I was going. We just hugged and I left. Oh yeah, she kept going between her group behind us, and our group. At some point when she was over there, somebody came up to feel my hair (again, spiky, emo-ish, Goku-ish hair).

My thought at the time was that it was a dare. Thinking back, this is what I should have done:
Befriended the friends.
Negged her saying "Is she always this forward?"
Then IOI her by saying "It's okay though. That's one thing I like about you. I hate it when girls play games."
BAM! New circle, new girl.

I gotta get myself out of the mindset of I'm not good enough. That's why I thought it was a dare. But what if it was a dare, and I looked desparate or whatever, trying to pick up/hit on that girl?

Well, anyways, after we left, we had an awesome time. It might be boring, but I just wanted to document one of the best times I've had in a long time.

So whenever we were in the car, we played a game called SEX. If we head under a yellow light, or a car has one head/tail light on, you hit the roof and call sex. Last one to call it has to take one article of clothing. Shoes/socks come off in pairs, jewelry doesn't count.

Then we were hanging out in these awesome spots near the top of the mountain. It overlooks the whole valley. At night, the light scenes are beautiful. I'll be sure to take pictures for you guys. The only downfall (no pun intended): I'm scared of heights. But I guess that shows vulnerability, so it's a good thing in comfort stage.

Then, we headed to a closed pool. Best time I had swimming. Period. I was in front of two pretty hot chicks, and I wasn't even thinking about my stomach. It's good. It's GOOD. We were just hanging around the pool until a girl and I decided to push the other couple in. Then we picked up the girl and threw her in. I was debating whether or not I would go, because of course, my clothes would be sopping wet. I was going to a concert, not a swimmeet. Anyways, I decided to go in anyways. Good times.

Ah I'm gonna end it with a short ending. Gave the two girls my number (put it in their phone), and just got dropped off.

Now I'm wasted (not drunk)... Off to bed. Adios!

Doonagoowin
07-20-2009, 11:12 AM
Gah, yesterday was a very... lacking day.

I drove half an hour to go hang out with my group of Asian friends... Well, I don't live near them anymore, so I have no idea what to do down there. They say that have everything planned out, and tell me the plan. I quickly decline the dollar movie they plan on going to see. I know I would have fallen asleep. They tell me to come down anyways. So being nice (I haven't hung out with them in a while), I head down there, politely declining a party invite from Natural. I had football in the morning (this morning) anyways. Didn't wanna have a hangover.

To make a whole 3 hours short, we did nothing... Shoot me.

Oh yeah, I forgot. I just did this on impulse, but it was part of me trying new things. I saw a few how to videos on frontflips and backflips and wallflips. I thought I'd start myself out easy with the frontflips. I tried a few of those... and needless to say, I didn't succeed. But, the lesson here: I grabbed my balls, didn't think about it, and tried it. Granted, my neck/back are killing me, but I think any kind of anxiety should be a little relieved now when I stop to think about this story.

I'll check back in tonight.

Doonagoowin
07-23-2009, 11:33 AM
Sorry guys, missed out on some days. They were rather uneventful though, so I didn't want to keep posting.

Anyways, only thing worth mentioning is that the girl got grounded (hehe), and I returned to my usual athletic activities.

Texting game has improved, I'd say.

Still haven't forgotten about this!

Turboorav
09-15-2009, 03:37 AM
Are u still gaming or have you left the game?

Doonagoowin
09-15-2009, 07:26 PM
Nah, I'm still here. It's just that I've moved over to a more high school oriented forum.

I'm a lot more active on there than I am here.

High school is a lot different, seeing as it's based on social circles. The more people you know, the better off you are.

Girls are different, methods are different.

I am still going strong though. :D