LaMenthe
06-16-2009, 06:35 AM
I'm on my road to become a pua but there is a major road block i am facing.
How does one go from who he is to a pua?
I am referring to a few things here, one being is your friends and family that have known you growing up. These people have known you your whole life and have a certain perception of you and whenever you are out and about with these people how do you break out of this shell and change what there perception of you is? It's really hard trying to be outgoing when no one is expecting it from you because they know how you act in these situations and it feels like you have to go with that kind of flow.
The second being, i am in Melbourne and i am told the girls here are harder to pick up then any other place around the world. True or false? See what makes me doubt a lot of things is that whenever people approach me at random i call them weirdo's and i assume they do they same when i approach them. Does the method know this? Is this "who is this weirdo" thinking me? or is it how most people think?
Henry Poole
06-16-2009, 06:51 AM
Lead a double life? Become MULLET MAN! Business in the front, PARTY IN THE BACK!
As far as I can tell about the weirdo thing, most people are actually pleasantly surprised to be engaged in a random conversation......so long as you don't waste their time.
Bandit89
06-16-2009, 07:53 AM
Lead a double life? Become MULLET MAN! Business in the front, PARTY IN THE BACK!
As far as I can tell about the weirdo thing, most people are actually pleasantly surprised to be engaged in a random conversation......so long as you don't waste their time.
Henry's right! If you wanna change yourself to become a PUA just do it. It doesnt matter what your friends and family think of you. Go lone wolf, I hardly ever wing with my friends, and when you come home and tell them your lone wolf bar stories (these guys amog'd me and i pwnd them, I was talking to this girl blah blah blah) and your image to them will change on it's own. You really shouldnt care what they think about you though, your school buddies arent part of your game. YOU are. Just practice man...
Prophet
06-16-2009, 08:58 AM
I think Style wrote a really good article about this a few years back. It might be kicking around somewhere if you look hard enough.
Transforming from AFC to PUA in front of your friends, especially friends that you are extremely close with or have known for a long time, can be challenging. When you start changing your appearance, your attitudes, and even your behaviors, many of them will have a problem with it. Showcase, Wild Card, and myself ALL received a ton of flack from our regular friends once we got into the game. They didn't like that we were changing our style, being more assertive, and acting more alpha. To them, our transformations represented a change in the social order that they had come to know. And for the average person, change is a very scary thing. They were losing the friends they've known for years and were seeing them replaced by someone cooler, more outgoing, and definitely more popular and it made them frightened and even a little jealous. After all, we were out there working our asses off to improve every facet of our lives while they were just sitting around doing the exact same things they've always done and they were feeling left behind. However, once they started seeing the successes we were having, the crazy adventures we got ourselves into, and the downright amazing capers we pulled, they slowly started to accept and love the new us.
However, as you touched on in your post, it can be very hard to shake a person's preconceptions about you. The problem is that over time, you slowly start to mentally anchor certain attitudes, behaviors, and emotional states to the presence of certain people. And these can be EXTREMELY hard to break, leaving you in this curious position in which you can head out to the club with your wingman, pick up a gorgeous woman, tool some AMOG asshole, and be the life of the party... and then when you hang out with your friends you go right back to being the quiet, shy AFC you were before.
The problem is that you are allowing your mental state to be dictated by that of those around you. If people see you a certain way then you will act in accordance to that view. Luckily, this can be dealt with with a bit of will power and a couple of self-help books like The Power of Now. Part of your transformation into a PUA will require a massive shift in the way you think about things, especially when it comes to how you view yourself as a person. Most people search for validation and acceptance from an external source such as their parents, friends, girlfriends, etc. But as a PUA, you have to teach yourself to find it internally. You need to learn to become internally defined, to stop allowing other people's perceptions of you define who you are and how you act.
You have to force yourself to be the new you around your old friends. You have to push yourself into sets even harder when they are around. It will be bumpy at first, and you will probably get a lot of snide or downright mean comments from them in the beginning. But if you act like you don't care and just push through all the bullshit, they will eventually come to terms with the new you over time. I'm not going to lie, you may loose a few friends during your journey, as some will be resentful of the changes you are making in yourself. But if they don't respect you enough to support your attempt at improving yourself, were they really your friends at all?
The reason we have things like false time constraints, body rocking, and negs is to prevent people from thinking "where the fuck did this wierdo come from and when is he leaving?" If you come in with a non-needy attitude and act like you're not interested in getting anything from them while simultaneously acting like you are about to leave, you wont have this problem. Hell, when your game gets tight, girls will start to pull you back to them to finish what you were saying when you body-rock away from them. You will also notice as you become more social that you will be more open when random people come up to talk to you. A lot of the "get this weirdo away from me" feelings you feel are coming from your own insecurities, and as you annihilate those, you will find that new people wont bother you nearly as much.
Also, I've heard that Amsterdam is the hardest place in the world to sarge, though I've never been there myself. Haven't heard either way about Melbourne. Compared to cities in the US though, Toronto is a very anti-social city so I know how you might be feeling in this regard. But look at it this way: I cut my chops in a small city of about 150,000 people. Sarging was incredibly hard there, but I managed pretty well for myself. Then I started sarging Toronto and I couldn't believe how much more approachable sets were by comparison. Then I came aboard with VA and started helping out at bootcamps across the US and I was absolutely floored at how easily I was pulling while others who had been living in the city for years were having a really hard time. I was so used to sarging particularly anti-social areas that when I got to a more open and approachable population, picking up was like a cake-walk. So if Melbourne really is a hard city to sarge, then by the time you're a pro there, you'll be able to run amok in any other city.
Happy sarging,
Prophet
LaMenthe
06-17-2009, 02:17 AM
Damn Prophet, you hit that shit on the nail! Cheers A LOT man, i definitely have to start shaking this way of thinking around people and keep practicing.
Thank's everyone.
BTRD_020
07-29-2009, 04:30 AM
Great post Prophet, though you could've said it with a bit less text :p
Also, I live in Amsterdam and I've had sex with way more girls when traveling than while here, but I don't think of Amsterdam as "the hardest place to sarge".
kingy
07-29-2009, 01:47 PM
sometimes you have to go it a lone for a while to make a change and then you can go back.
I have lost a load of friends because they couldnt accept my new "skills" personality but thats cool cos i only live once and also i can make new friends.
your familly hopefully should love u no matter what, but remember they dont always know whats best for you.
hope that helps.
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