A new tested online opener!

[leto44]

It's really crazy haha

This works the best in my country. Non of the other online openers worked that good. The hamster opener never got a reply!!! Cool country ha?

Here it is:
"When to put the softener into the washing mashine, before I start it or before it's done/in the middle of the washing/while washing?"

I think this will work in a club too, but never tried it. It's realy kind of like the dental floss opener. People put the softener in the laundry both ways :)

I don't know if the laundry softeners are popular in every country!

Let me know if it worked for you.
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[relics]

Won't work in night game unless you really root it.

Useful in day game...

And you don't really need openers online.

[leto44]

If you don't need openers online, how you start a conversation then?
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[Waltradomous]

It's pretty corny to genuinely come off like you care about your laundry when you're out 'having fun' IMO... Anything works, if said by the right guy though.

Edit: Apparently the floss opener was a joke Style did at a bootcamp where he'd say "you can open with ANYTHING, watch this"... and some guy saw and posted it online as this "awesome style opener" and now it's famous lol

[leto44]

I had 2 conversation with this opener because I did the transiotion properly. I've lost the conversation right after I started to ask personal questions. It's easy to open with this opener on a dating site, I just can't do the A3 stuff.
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[phoenix]

BULLSHIT! :)

I do a lot of online gaming currently.

And Openers are important.


Without a good opener you may no even get a response.


Not heard of the hamster one.

The ones I use are about 1000 times more complex then the one you posted though, and I usually get a good paragraph back, depending on age and intelect of the girl.


And I got about 3 or 4 follow up messages, the same ones I use every time.

Sometimes It jsut takes one before a good convo starts (the kind that lead to numbers)

Sometimes I use them all, and have attraction and commfort, possibly trust, before even leaving Myspace/Email/w/e and going to a messenger(preferable) or straight to phone game.

and their great openers and such

in fact their almost like online patterns, and i dont even do that pattern shit.


But I didnt come up with them.

so i can't share


plus id hate them going mainstream.

I'll tell you guys this though, Myspace is by far the easiest way to do online game.



IF any of you have anything to offer, like maybe a tradE?, I can give you my complete list.


I have actually called Tamara, The lead singer of Lucid Nation, using this.

Later guys.

Good luck.

experiement.

[Equal]

Tyler uses these types of openers and seems to love them - I used a salad opener last night and the girl said "what do you think of the most random things to say to people?" - that didn't phase me one bit but be ready for stuff like that. I just keep going with what I was saying - this is where confidence and inner game comes in.

The reason JG worked SO well (I have never used it because I dont like it for some reason) is because girls LOVE talking about that shit. With these random openers you need to hook and attract with how you act AFTER you deliver the opener because you will get push back. That has been my real life experience. That said just don't supplicate and the set will be open!

Equal

[relics]

Did you mean openers for things like facebook, or myspace? If so, then yeah you need an opener. However....this isn't really a good opener to use on those either as it lacks that...I don't know. The vibe of playfulness and mystery that gets them hooked to a message.

I thought you were talking about MSN, Yahoo, etc.

[Myth]

What percentage of response do you get with this? I've experimented with a number of openers and found one of the best in terms of percentage response was the simple "What did you want to be when you were six?" I found the odds improved considerably though when I added some other little piece of wit as an intro.

My general approach was, make it short, they aren't going to read much on the first message. Give them something to respond to, a question is the way I tend to go. Don't bother introducing yourself, they'll read your profile, which, by and by, your profile is important for that very reason. Don't ever ask more than one question in a message.

[phoenix]

listen, the best opener for only game is

I want to talk to the deepest part of who you truly are.

It isnt mine, a friend wrote it, but you won't find a better one anywhere.

its seriously awesome.

[megadirt]

I find one that gets replies every time are

"My my, aren't you very mysterious there is practically no information on here telling me about the real you at all, I suppose Ill have to make a personality up for you [cold reading] am I close?"

100% success rate so far.

[leto44]

Dating sites and Myspace are two different things! At least in my country. They write in there profiles stuff like that: "I'm not here to find boyfriends, but because it's fun!!!", haha, yeah I'm sure :)

An HB8 is like a famous chick in US. In a six million country how many HBs there are? 10 maybe 20 000, they think they're the big deal man, and it's normal to be like that! Half of them maybe know each other. Every time you open with things near pick-up and you're out, only neg openers and some opinion openers are working.

Yesterday I opend 3 Myspace chicks with the hamster opener and a bikini model with the softener :)
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[leto44]

I find one that gets replies every time are

"My my, aren't you very mysterious there is practically no information on here telling me about the real you at all, I suppose Ill have to make a personality up for you [cold reading] am I close?"

100% success rate so far.

I tried it on the dating site, 100%, but not with my profile, I used one really good looking guy's profile. I'll try it with mine and will report.

Almost everyone reply with "You allmost got it". What is a good reply to that?
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[megadirt]

Cool man keep me posted. I havent quite got the hang of the second half yet, usually something like "oh you mean you aren't [positive cold read point, eg. friendly] what's the most interesting thing i left out?"

From time to time I get like 2 word answers, keep posting back until you stop getting replies, I got rejected 3 times, then one day got "hey Megadirt, my names Christine btw, I can't help but like you ...blah blah" The pereseverence is very attractive.

MD

[leto44]

It's 50% allready :) witch is normal I think. One replied me "Blah blah blah, and I'm not romantic". I replied her: "too bad, that's one of the best free things in life. What is your favorite quality you can change romantic with?"

HAHA, I know it's stupid but it's like a chat here, not e-mail and I don't have the time to think of something funny.

Think of a reply for that.
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[megadirt]

"So if I was your boyfriend YOU'D be buying ME flowers and chocolates all the time instead of the other way round? Sounds good." lol..or something

[leto44]

"So if I was your boyfriend YOU'D be buying ME flowers and chocolates all the time instead of the other way round? Sounds good." lol..or something

HAHAHHAHA, how you come up with this stuff :)
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[megadirt]

lol im a sarcastic bastard generally. Recently Ive been kindve dating this chick tats a real bitch and she would say things like "You cant move away.....you'll miss me!" and stuff, really obviously reversing the frame. lolspeaking of which check out the post entitled "freeze out or what" and give me an idea of what I should do there.

MD

P.s saying "so if I was your boyfriend.." makes them imagine you as their boyfriend.

[Myth]

"I want to talk to the deepest part of who you truly are."

Do you use that alone?

"My my, aren't you very mysterious there is practically no information on here telling me about the real you at all, I suppose Ill have to make a personality up for you [cold reading] am I close?"

What are some examples of cold reading you use?

[Waltradomous]

BULLSHIT! :)

I do a lot of online gaming currently.

And Openers are important.


Without a good opener you may no even get a response.


Not heard of the hamster one.

The ones I use are about 1000 times more complex then the one you posted though, and I usually get a good paragraph back, depending on age and intelect of the girl.


And I got about 3 or 4 follow up messages, the same ones I use every time.

Sometimes It jsut takes one before a good convo starts (the kind that lead to numbers)

Sometimes I use them all, and have attraction and commfort, possibly trust, before even leaving Myspace/Email/w/e and going to a messenger(preferable) or straight to phone game.

and their great openers and such

in fact their almost like online patterns, and i dont even do that pattern shit.


But I didnt come up with them.

so i can't share


plus id hate them going mainstream.

I'll tell you guys this though, Myspace is by far the easiest way to do online game.



IF any of you have anything to offer, like maybe a tradE?, I can give you my complete list.


I have actually called Tamara, The lead singer of Lucid Nation, using this.

Later guys.

Good luck.

experiement.

Well, I think these ridiculous opinion openers might be good to pick up a stale conversation or whatever, but it's a pretty corny way to start one (online or not). I'd say openers even online aren't that important if you have a star profile. Like I said, the right guy can open with anything.

[Myth]

In my experience there are a number of factors to online, at least dating sites, that make the environment different.

A) You are there simply to connect for the purpose of dating. As much as hooking up at clubs happens, it isn't the sole intention, thus the active disinterest concept works better there.

B) Social proof is drastically different.

C) You already have an introduction, your profile. The purpose of an opener online is to get them to look at your profile and in turn to respond. If they don't like your profile they can delete your message with much greater ease than they can blow you off in real life.

D) Attraction is somewhat different lacking all the personality of the direct contact, the inability to touch, use your tone of voice etc. So ideally, the goal is to escalate as quickly as possible to where there is greater investment and greater capability.

[leto44]

OK, let see what is happening here. I opened a bikini model (professional photos and stuff). This is the conversation till now. What do you think I should do from here. I'm not sure if she's replying because I act like a harmless guy or because the strange questions. I can ask her the second part of the two part question, but not really sure.


READ FROM THE BOTTOM


yes. it means her guy is no fullfilling all her needs, Ive done it plenty of times

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me:
Thanks for the advice :)

Hey, while I have you here, I need a female's prespective on something. Say this guy is dating this girl and she goes out with her freinds, has a few drinks and ends up making out with a random guy at a bar - would you consider this cheating?

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From: Zarah
Date: Jul 11, 2007 6:02 PM


when washing after the first rinse cycle! Even better just buy the tide-snuggle , that way there's no mistaking anything!

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: me
Date: 11/07/2007


when to put the softener in the laundry, before I start the washing machine or when is washing????
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[phoenix]

Not bad.

Not a bad online sarge at all. =)

As for the Getting her to look at my profile thing, Never tried it.

Frankly It sounds like I need their validation that my profile is good, an alpha male doesn't need this.

But maybe If you had a funny picture or some shit, to tell her to look at,

You know she 'll check out the profile anyways. You could ask her waht she thought of the profile If you want?

This is new territory for me, I've never put a lot of emphasis into the profile.

I did What style said about online sites, Just tried to seem like an ass.

[Navy236]

One replied me "Blah blah blah, and I'm not romantic". I replied her: "too bad, that's one of the best free things in life. What is your favorite quality you can change romantic with?"

HAHA, I know it's stupid but it's like a chat here, not e-mail and I don't have the time to think of something funny.

Think of a reply for that.

"McDonald's it is then!"

[leto44]

Not bad.

Not a bad online sarge at all. =)

As for the Getting her to look at my profile thing, Never tried it.

Frankly It sounds like I need their validation that my profile is good, an alpha male doesn't need this.

But maybe If you had a funny picture or some shit, to tell her to look at,

You know she 'll check out the profile anyways. You could ask her waht she thought of the profile If you want?

This is new territory for me, I've never put a lot of emphasis into the profile.

I did What style said about online sites, Just tried to seem like an ass.

It's almost an empty profile :) it's like a joke, a very little info, not my picture even (I have to make myself good pictures, not just anything!). Maybe it's enough for a conversation. Anyway, I'll think of something.
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[leto44]

"McDonald's it is then!"

:) cool. thanx.
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[Myth]

I tried those two openers, they really didn't work very well. The first one, about wanting to talk to the deepest part of who you truly are, I think would benefit from giving her something to respond to, so I'll try that.

The one involving the cold reading may have suffered from poor cold reading. I'm probably going to try a variant where I make up some story about their life, as laughter tends to help in my experience.

[leto44]

ok, this chick is near 8 and replying really friendly. The american girls are ten times friendlier than the chicks in my country, at least no the dating sites. Do I have to "release" her now? Any suggestions?

My profile is witohout pictures of me!

Read from the bottom

well it depends if he loves her and can stand her

yea that wsould be cool....ur a really funny guy

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Me
Date: Jul 14, 2007 11:46 AM


Yeah, maybe. The girl is sweet, but when she is drunk she's acting crazy.

Ones she stabed a guy with a fork :) in the ass and the guy couldn't sit on a chair for a week. But normaly she is a fun and interesting person, when she's not holding a fork :))) Personaly I like fun people, but maybe this is too much. Do you think they should brake?

P.S Hey and I think we should be friends. We can talk about our borring friends's relationships for like 10 times a day. :)))))) Wouldn't that be cool? HAHAHA

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: (*YUMMY YUMM 4 MA TUMMY WANT GUMMY BEAR FREDDY*)
Date: Jul 13, 2007 12:24 PM


well depends if she lesbian or straight
its like if shes at the bar maybe shes doing that to have fun or get sum attention

so its not really cheating
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Me
Date: Jul 12, 2007 3:19 AM


Hmm Interesting, well ok - how about this then. Take the same scenario, but this time the girl is making out with another girl at the bar. Would you consider THAT cheating?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: (*YUMMY YUMM 4 MA TUMMY WANT GUMMY BEAR FREDDY*)
Date: Jul 11, 2007 6:10 PM


it sorta counts as cheating but at the end they are gonna blame it on the drink

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Me
Date: Jul 11, 2007 1:18 PM


ok, cool ;P

While I have your attention , I need a female's prespective on something......

Say, this guy is dating this girl, and she goes out with her friends, has a few drinks and ends of making out with a random guy at the bar.....Would you consider this cheating?


I deleted the opener and her first response.
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[Tailgunner]

It kind of sounds like Styles dental floss opener

[Daras]

I am not a favor of online pickup, but when you're bored late at night and can't sleep, it's a time consumer.

Here's your new opener.

Subj: hey youre cute
Body: For a dork!!! Too bad you like xyz.

Keep it simple stupid, nothing that she cares about immensely, only things that she can make up for. Music, tv, glow in the dark golf, et cetera.

That opener is from Levo, and it's kept me entertained several times late at night at work.

Enjoy

[hazeakapiff]

this isnt a reply rather a question my fault dont know where to post the questions yet im new here ....whats the hamster opener??

[gaash2]

Actually a dating site like match is the easiest

BULLSHIT! :)

I do a lot of online gaming currently.

And Openers are important.


Without a good opener you may no even get a response.


Not heard of the hamster one.

The ones I use are about 1000 times more complex then the one you posted though, and I usually get a good paragraph back, depending on age and intelect of the girl.


And I got about 3 or 4 follow up messages, the same ones I use every time.

Sometimes It jsut takes one before a good convo starts (the kind that lead to numbers)

Sometimes I use them all, and have attraction and commfort, possibly trust, before even leaving Myspace/Email/w/e and going to a messenger(preferable) or straight to phone game.

and their great openers and such

in fact their almost like online patterns, and i dont even do that pattern shit.


But I didnt come up with them.

so i can't share


plus id hate them going mainstream.

I'll tell you guys this though, Myspace is by far the easiest way to do online game.



IF any of you have anything to offer, like maybe a tradE?, I can give you my complete list.


I have actually called Tamara, The lead singer of Lucid Nation, using this.

Later guys.

Good luck.

experiement.

[willium]

currently i am playing online game.And Openers are important.Without a good opener you may no even get a response.

[Syd.PUA.novice]

Yeh, ive never really done anything but night game, but im thinking online could be a good way to get some practice while not spending money :P - im thinking facebook is the way forward for me, largely because i dont want to spend cash on a dating site and cant really be bothered making a new profile on another site...

im liking these openers tho definately gunna try a few of them, keep em coming!

[-TruTh-]

If you don't need openers online, how you start a conversation then?

By noticing some small significant thing on there profile can really take a conversation onto the right track I posted a Online example go look for yourself. -- Truth

[garrry1]

hahahh I just came up with this one I need some feedback asap. Well field-testing gives feedback but yeah anyways what you guys think? It seems like a good way to use a situational/indirect opener online. Like a virtual demonstration hahah:

subject: what do you think of this?

(link to profile of balloon stuffed chest and it's a guy pretending to be a chick)

Go to that link like copy and paste it :P

Do you think that guy's genuinely funny or is it downright offensive?

[BackintheGame]

I tried the laundry opener and it was brutal...no responses.

Made my own and the floodgates opened.

[jamesusf]

I was the type of guy who would find common ground and "start the interview". I hardly ever got a response. Then I tried cocky/funny, but it does NOT translate in the written word quite as well as the spoken. If I got a response, I rarely ever got a second response. So last night, I decide to use some canned openers. I used the "tanning is gay" opener, the rock band opener (Which member is more attractive?), the laundry opener, and two I made up.

1. Who do you think gets more groupies: pro bowlers, pro chess players or pro fishermen?

2. Who would you rather date: the guy that goes out and gets drunk every time, or the sober guy who never wants to go out?

Presto! Responses. Mind you, this is a dating site, so the mere fact that you are messaging someone conveys to the woman you are interested in them. The laundry opener actually worked. The tanning opener got a response, but since it is a yes/no question, I got a short "no" reply and saw that it was deleted after being read. The second one I made up got a response, and the girl even commented it was interesting and a unique approach (which validates that it's good if she calls it for what it is).

So, yes, openers are fundamental, even on dating sites.

[translation]

Hi guys,
when it comes to dating sites. Questions like "so who's hotter, brad pitt or tom cruise?" are great openers. The key is to convey a playful relaxed vibe. Its not supposed to be hard. Dont give it so much thought. Just throw it out there. Theres only so much you can do with an opener.

On msn, n yahoo. Openers r almost unecessary. The whole point of an opener in sets is too engage them. To get their attention. Once u have 3 secs of their time with ur opener n good body language etc .. u gotta stack forward. Online, just by saying "Hello woman", or "Hey babe", or just plain "Hellooo" is sufficient. Most ladies will grant you at least a bit of their time by saying hi back. Thus, the opener is redundant. If they're already friends, openers play a negligible part in attracting and/or building comfort.

Gaming through msn to me is less than fruitful. If you dont know the other party, u can often use it to get things hot, but eventually shes gonna want/have to see you, and u can make or break it. Even if u fucked up the msn thing, n she meets u, if u've got game the msn convo often gets forgotten.

For girls that u already know. MSN is actually a useful tool for building comfort, flirting, .. and extremely useful for time bridging and/or setting a date for the future. Just say, i'm bored, you're coming with me to watch a movie tmr or sth .. Also, great way to DHV. u can use the display pic, add her on facebook (be subtle, but make her want to add u, usually just talking abt it she'll ask u to add her). Make sure ur facebook or myspace or whatever is full of pics of u n girls n having a good time.

Game on, ciao