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Indestructible
05-21-2009, 01:55 PM
PART 1.
“Fear can be effectively cured by forced repetition of acts of courage.” – Napoleon Hill
April 2009 – LReport/TUTORIAL
Location: Fletcher’s - NIBL, Baltimore, MD, USA
Duration: A1-to-S3 ~ 6.73 hrs, [Including S3: ~ 7.40 hrs; Overall: ~10.40 hrs]
Favorable Factors: 1-SET
Unfavorable Factors: LSE-TARGET
Frame Control: ~98%
Sequence: 90% Solid, bypassing none of the sub-Phases. Smooth transition A1 through A3, hits one “glitch” in C1/C2, effortless C2 through S3.
Results: Full Close. LMR ~0%,(perceived LMR: ~40%). BR: ~0% (perceived BR ~ 90%).
ASDefense Mechanism Status: ACTIVATED. ASD Resistance Factor post-Full-Close (S3) @ ~ 70%.
Mis-calibrations: Builds Negative Compliance during C1/C2, attempt # 1 to initiate K-Close fails, attempt # 2 – succeeds. ASDefense, NC-mode, & NLP-Algorithm prompt Target to leave S3-location.
Errors: Instead of building 100% Comfort, backtracks to A2/A3-Phase from C1 & post-S3.
Money spent on Target: $0.00
Disclaimer: Some technical terms might have been used improperly, as I have not re-read MM in a while. Percentages are arbitrary, i.e. - might be TARGET-specific. For a full list of definitions, see section @ the end of LReport. For full explanation of concepts, their application, and the fundamentals of the Social Dynamics Theory – see books called “The Mystery Method” by Mystery, and “The Game” & “30-Day StyleLife Challenge” by Neil Strauss.
Every day, I see decent-looking & very handsome guys @ the gym. They look like they could be models, yet they walk & talk like losers. Are they nice guys? Maybe. Do they get hit on? Probably not as much as you’d think. And girls don’t stick around for long, because they don’t feel any attraction towards those chumps.
And then I see guys who are fat, old and ugly, but they act like nothing hotter ever deigned to walk this planet. Girls just flock to them, although they seem to treat women like crap. But chicks just keep coming back for more. Even *I* feel attracted to those guys sometimes. [*Crosses herself thrice*]
So, you ask me, why play the Game? Wouldn’t it be much more honest to just go up to a girl & tell her you like her? We DO like nice guys, but most of the time, we are not attracted to them. If you think that you can come up to a scorching HB10 and convince her to like you based on pure logic, good luck. We DO appreciate all the support, care and love nice guys give us. But we fall for Alphas.
You might also ask: what is the difference between having money and having “Game”? For it seems that both may be acquired through persistence & then used to get girls. A girl who is with you for your money is not attracted to you for real; it will eventually show in the way she treats you. You can buy us drinks, diamonds, cars, houses; we will thank you but feel bad for you. Because you have just DLVed yourself in our eyes. It’s a path not really worth taking.
This is good news for you though, because this means, as a guy, you can get laid easily even if you are dead broke. All you have to do is learn Social Dynamics. (Yes, ladies, I said “get laid”. Don’t pretend to get offended, I know you like it too).
These are not my ideas. Mystery & other amazing Master-PUAs have mastered this art, field-tested it, proven it effective, & organized all of its aspects into a kickass system, so that anyone can apply them. Mystery Method is a courtship method based on the Theory of Social Dynamics. It was developed & refined by Erik von Markovik and systematized/publicized by Neil Strauss. The underlying principle behind MM is the idea that although we live in an industrialized society, our basic emotional circuitry is very similar to that of our ancestors who fought for survival in the harsh conditions of the hunter-gatherer era. From evolutionary standpoint, 10,000-20,000 years is not enough time for any drastic modification of our genetically ingrained survival mechanisms. Therefore, according to this theory, a female can’t help but be attracted to a male, whose behavior seems to enhance her survival potential.
In modern day and age, women can take care of themselves & their hypothetical/real offspring; can even use contraception to prevent the very occurrence thereof. However, we are still drawn to guys who exhibit Alpha-Male characteristics of Stone Age. If a guy is a doormat, if he can’t stand up to a girl, if he buys her drinks to get her to like him, if he follows her like a lost puppy, how is he supposed to stand up to others & protect her from the cruel-cruel world? At least that is what a girl’s “Tribal Survival Mechanism” concludes & turns off her emotions of lust. He could be the nicest, smartest, richest guy ever; she will feel zero attraction towards him. She will be grateful to him for his niceness, smarts or money, but that is all. Gratitude is nice, but that is not what you are after.
MM places Survival Value at the core of all social interactions. In tribal times, males with good social skills had the highest survival potential – they could organize others on a hunt, were able to negotiate well with enemies, would get a better share of the mammoth, etc. Therefore, only when you have succeeded in raising your visible Social (read: Survival) Value to a level higher than that of a girl’s, will she be able to feel attraction towards you. Thus, being an Alpha does not mean you have to be like those assholes in the gym. It means remaining nice @ heart, but learning to present yourself as a leader & a prize. In order for girls to lust after you, it does not matter how much money you have, what you look like, or how smart/dumb you think you are. Anyone can game us & succeed - if techniques are rightly used. In order to attract girls 4 real, you need to trigger and engage that ancient emotional circuitry: you need to learn how to NEUTRALIZE our inner screening mechanisms with your actions & words. You need to be able to demonstrate to a girl’s inner “Survival System” that you are an Alpha-male – a man who is socially viable, moral, optimistic, confident, a man who is in control & calm under pressure.
Mystery Method offers a precise, almost scientific way for doing just this. By engaging in thousands of “cold approaches”, Mystery has discovered a LINEAR MODEL of SEDUCTION. The MM model divides courtship into 3 Stages, with 9 Phases: ATTRACTION (A1=Approach, A2=Female-to-Male Interest, A3=Male-to-Female Interest), COMFORT (C1=Conversation, C2=Connection/Mutual Compliance, C3=Intimacy), & SEDUCTION (S1=Staging, S2=Foreplay, S3=Sex). If you guide your girl through these stages properly, you will be appealing to her Inner Survival System & she will automatically feel attracted to you as a result. If you are not getting laid on a regular basis, you are doing something wrong in this sequence = i.e. skipping Phases, confusing Phases, and such. Use MM properly, and girls will respond: we’ve been hardwired to respond that way for centuries.
Now, there are a lot of hypnosis procedures 4 seduction out there, which I DO NOT like. Because that’s just plain dishonest towards us girls. I feel like MM is an honest method, for it does not take over another person’s will. It just presents a girl with a cool, exciting guy, and she is free to choose him, or not.
Why am I writing this? For selfish reasons, of course: because Nice Guys are SOOOO BORING. Alpha-Males are SOOOOOO MUCH FUNNNNN!!!! = There should be more of them! I feel like there is not enough theoretical knowledge out there – I see guys stumbling in the dark, grasping at threads of techniques, failing to play LINEARLY, dealing with “glitches”/“sticking points” for months, - all this without a general & thorough understanding of the underlying theory behind the Game. I want to show you how MM works in real life by inviting you to follow me on my Sarge – and see it from a girl’s perspective. My Report, intertwined with Mystery’s lessons, will demonstrate how you, too, can become a Master at Social Dynamics. My Report will also help you decide on which aspects of your Game to concentrate & which pitfalls to avoid. If you are a nice guy to start with, you can turn into a nice Alpha and you will play the Game 4 fun, not for casualties. The world needs more guys like that!
Warning to girls: Although all Alpha-males are fun, some of them really ARE cruel @ heart. Beware, for all Alphas are truly magnetic. It is a shame that those assholes ruin the Alpha-male reputation, because most of Alphas are kickass, utterly remarkable & highly sensitive, caring guys. Just watch out for wolves in sheep’s clothing. Watch their actions, not their words to figure out who is who.
Warning to guys from Mystery: As you learn & master MM, beware of becoming a social robot that analyses every interaction & plays power games. Life should be lived & enjoyed. Relationships with those around you should not be a constant struggle for domination. Plus, you’ll get better results in the FIELD if you are able to easily connect with people on an emotional level & have fun with, it. That is why it is called “The Game”.
So here’s my first L-Report ever on one of the GREATEST pieces of Game run on me in a WHILE. Analysis below seems cold & logical, though it is not how my brain works in the FIELD. When a SARGE is on, the logical portion shuts off and I just get a feeling as to what to do or say, when to walk away, or when I should shut up & watch. Writing it all out seems so long, but all this takes place in the mind of a girl on an emotional/almost sub-conscious level in a matter of milliseconds.
Background Info: Although I am a HAC [Hot Asian Chick] & an HB9, in real life I am a shy, reserved, socially awkward/nerdy girl, who is able to successfully manifest IOI’s only @ ~10-12% incidence rate in new social settings. Guys hit on me all the time, but I am pretty picky & have a 95% rejection margin. I fail to IOI properly & usually end up IODing the guys I like. I have been known to go abstinent for > 12 months straight & be fine with it. And yet it took this dude less than 7(!) hours to Game me into S3-Phase. By the time we get to MOHAWK’s house, I am practically ready to jump his bones. This is DESPITE the fact that I am pretty much SOBER = I had: [1 JB ~@ 8:15 pm which is 15 min. prior to onset of A1-Phase] + [1JB ~4 hrs later, in C1] + [8-10 glasses of H2O throughout the night]. Imagine what he is like with NORMAL chicks, who actually pursue him ACTIVELY? How long does it take YOU to S3-Phase a TARGET you’ve just met, or to Full-Close that girl you’ve been Gaming for months? This guy should really consider running some MM workshops all over the East Coast – if he has time to do so between his band’s awesome concerts.
This guy is TOP GUN. His Game is aeons ahead of anyone else’s & levels above anything I am normally used to. He was in THE STATE the whole time, plowed through all my Compliance Tests like a tank & put me through a myriad of his own CT’s. Maintained strong FRAME CONTROL @ ~98%. This percentage NEVER dropped, he preserves his FRAME well throughout all of the sub-Phases & even post-S3. He overpowered & shattered my FRAME instead. Anything I threw @ him - he had the right response: used IOIs/IODs/SOIs/NEGs/BHRR correctly & on time; utilized Pawns properly. Effectively out-AMOGed all guys around us - both by excellent BL & directly. He played Solid Game @ 90%-congruence level, moving me through all the sub-phases without any major “glitches”, except for accidentally building Negative Compliance in A3, which continued to increase and got us stuck in C1-Phase for ~ 3 hrs. [He did this also post-S3, which activated ASDefense Mechanism & kicked up its Resistance Factor to ~40%, then ~70%.] Overall, I think he is a combination of 70% Natural-Born-Alpha and 30% Learned Master PUA. He seemed to think a bit before pulling each move, but his BL was impeccable. I do not know how one acquires such BL without being born with it. Maybe he underwent hypnosis sessions in Cali, if he was not a “natural” to start with.
That night I am supposed to SARGE w/ WASHINGTON from my days way back @ HCO. We usually WING 4 each other, I analyze his tactics, help him practice his Game. WASHINGTON has some kind of a family emergency (can’t go into details here). Tells me to go ahead have fun & not worry about him. I hate SARGING alone, but somehow always end up having the time of my life.
When driving up to the club, attention is caught by a group of 3-4 guys who stand out in the way they are dressed – spiked up hair, bandanas, thin tight t-shirts, jeans, boots, chains – all of it is trendy, up 2 date. They are standing in a close-knit group; their energy level seems higher than that of others in their proximity. Even if all they are chatting about is BS, or boring crap - to an outsider it does not look that way @ all.
MM Lesson: Mystery’s “PEACOCKING” Theory works. The way you present yourself in-FIELD IS important. Girls DO notice well-dressed men – this is your OVERT DISPLAY of CONFIDENCE. Find a style that suits you, create an AVATAR. Even if it’s not an expensive outfit, it has to match. Jewelry/watch/tacky stuff not necessary, but helpful. Those guys had chains & necklaces, tattoos. Some girls will find this a turn off, so stick to what you are comfortable with. If khaki pants/GAP are your style, don’t bend over backwards changing it. Just have your shirt ironed well, get a big watch/some accessories, a conversation piece, whatever.
MM Lesson: Engage in your environment, talk to people around you, have fun. Act as if you are full of excess energy. Hanging by the wall or the bar for too long is AFC/BETA behavior. You should have what I call “a half-smile-that-is-almost-ready-to-break-into-a-full-smile” on your face. Make EC with everyone who passes you, do not look down, do not stare.
I park the car & burn all bridges. I walk in, look around, go up to 98Rock Radio DJ, introduce myself. I think we have met before, but f*** if he remembers me with all those people in his face all the time. DJ is amazingly nice; orders everyone free drinks. Introduces me to a guy who is standing near the booth, talking to friends. DJ says the guy is from NY, is in one of the bands playing there that night.
GOTHIC PRINCE has eyeliner on, long hair w/bleached streaks, hypnotic green eyes. Offers me his hand upon intro, holds mine up for ~4-5 seconds @ my heart’s level [=NLP]: “You, my dear, look ASTONISHING tonight!” The comment did not DLV him in the least, because was offered from a higher FRAME, not a “begging” FRAME: he smiles while he says it, and turns away RIGHT afterwards - to say something to the guy and the girl who are standing next to us. So it’s not like he just stood there & waited 4 my reaction. Thus, GOTHIC PRINCE DHVd 4 himself = this tells my “Tribal Survival System” that he does not expect anything in return 4 the compliment = is Alpha.
MM Lesson: Mystery advises to NEVER compliment a TARGET on her appearance when you first meet her. At least not until she demonstrates that she deserves it & you guys are WAY into COMFORT STAGE. Even then, it’s not a good tactic: everyone tells her this all the time. As a rule, it’s a bad idea to comment positively on TARGET’s, looks, body, etc. Remember, you are an Alpha-male & there are PLENTY of scorching girls around you ALL the time. Show her you are unaffected by how hot she is. Complimenting is inadvisable until you have established solid Rapport. Then praise her on something else, things that are special about her, things you notice she does well, her friendliness, spirit, loyalty to her friends, etc.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: IF your Game is tight, like GOTHIC PRINCE’S, you CAN compliment your TARGET in A1-Phase to anchor her positive emotional state to your handshake [=NLP]. This has to ALWAYS be done from a “screening” FRAME, not a “begging” FRAME. Mystery says you should “throw your NEGS like pebbles in water, don’t wait for the circles to appear” (in A2). I think the same thing goes for Compliments. Throw a compliment and turn away: DO NOT WAIT FOR HER REACTION. You are Alpha – you GIVE, GIVE, GIVE & don’t need anything in return.
WARNING! Don’t attempt this if you are not a Master PUA yet. This requires great Calibration and knowledge of NLP-techniques. GOTHIC PRINCE is an ace @ Pickup – he sensed right away that I am an LSE-TARGET. So instead of trying to lower my SV, he actually picked me up & “Brought me to his level” – by his hand-shake (pulling my hand upwards) and by his compliment. Now my LSE-SSystem is thankful to him & wants more of his validation.
After a bit, I walk away, just to gauge his interest in me. I walk off to the bar. GOTHIC PRINCE does not follow me. He walks around, DHVs some more by talking to a couple of people, smiling. My SSystem prompts me to push it, so I proceed to the pool hall, just looking around at people. Two guys & a girl are shooting pool, a crowd of ~15 gathering @ the bar (the rest are near the other bar/DJ booth). Some guys begin eyeing me. But it seems that I would need to display solid IOI’s for any of them to have the balls to approach.
The thing is, these guys keep checking me out, but then going back to whatever they are doing. And then they check me out again, and then go back to whatever they are doing. This DLVs them, because that is AFC behavior. This telegraphs my Survival System that they have high AA [Approach Anxiety] = this TERRITORY does not belong to them = they are BETA here. Guys @ the pool table check me out too, they both look good, and I’m sure they are friendly. But they just keep on playing, they never smile broadly @ me.
MM Lesson: When you see your TARGET for the first time, make EC and grin right away. PAUSE your life for a bit & pay her some attention from afar. Maintain EC. Show your teeth a little - remember you are an Alpha-male. This is YOUR TERRITORY. YOU are the one giving/offering people attention/validation, not the one seeking it from her/others. YOU are so secure that you do not need any IOI’s on her part to give you the green light for an overt display of interest. So, do not hesitate to display curiosity. Mystery advises to do so within 3 seconds of seeing your TARGET for the first time. Otherwise, her Inner Tribal Survival System will classify you as BETA. Don’t try to play it cool like those guys did @ the pool table. BUT DO NOT APPROACH YET.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: Girls are MUCH MUCH MUCH LESS concerned about what you look like than about what MOOD you are in. Notice, I am NOT looking around and evaluating guys on whether they have washboard stomachs or whatever. I am looking around and evaluating them on their energy/happiness/their general “contentnessss” level. This is because a female’s Survival System is programmed to seek out the male with the highest Survival Potential. Hungry animals are not happy. When a male displays playfulness/curiosity/is outgoing and social, this telegraphs our SSystems that he is not concerned about getting his next meal = must be well-fed= successful hunter = will be able to support our hypothetical “offspring”. So girls are looking for guys who are done “hunting” and are having FUN! IF you are acting serious/tough/too cool, this means you are still trying to control the environment = are still on the hunt/in defensive-aggressive mode = not well-fed = have Low Survival Value. SO PRACTICE GETTING INTO “THE STATE”. This will make your attractiveness skyrocket. [A good book to read to get into THE STATE: “The Power of Now” by Eckhart Tolle]
I turn away from pool tables & see a guy standing a couple feet away [~8-9 ft.]. He is standing to the side, his back to a pillar, but not leaning on it. He is PEACKOCKED beyond the brim: eyeliner, long blond hair, tattoos, bandana, rings, and chains – pretty sure he is one of those guys from outside earlier. [Let’s call him ROCKSTAR-Alpha]
[pre-A1-Phase: Pre-Approach/DHV] [Duration: ~3-4 min]
Unlike other guys, ROCKSTAR-Alpha isn’t checking me out of the corner of his eyes stealthily. He is taking his time to look straight at me for a couple of seconds – giving my SSystem the opportunity to feel some of his High Social Value. His smile is semi-neutral; he could have been smiling at anyone with the same friendliness. There’s only 10-15% more warmth/curiosity in his smile to me than if he smiled @ a someone else. He isn’t greedily staring at me like a creep, not looking @ my body, only in my eyes – i.e. he is NOT acknowledging my sexual power over him. This is important, because the TARGET you are Gaming has to be made feel safe. She has to feel like you would treat anyone this way.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s body is relaxed, he is standing still, but not “frozen”. Is making EC & not breaking it. His head and solar plexus are aligned on a direct axis towards me, his lower body is turned away a bit though, as if he were about to walk off, but stopped. His overall BL is conveying openness, friendliness, & “contentnesssss”.
Unlike other guys, he seems to have PAUSED whatever he was doing, just to smile at me. This shows me he is secure & confident = does not need ANY IOI’s on my part WHATSOEVER to demonstrate OVERT, but PASSIVE interest. This is the way to display confidence in the FIELD. My Survival System registers 0% AA [Approach Anxiety] on his part, which indicates that this is his TERRITORY = he is Alpha.
I smile back @ him. [My 1st IOI] He remains rooted on the spot. Doesn’t even flinch to make a move in my direction. This is despite the fact that we ARE standing at almost speaking distance from each other. ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s whole stance & BL are broadcasting that he is an “object in motion that will stay in motion”. That he is curious about me, but not yet enough to do anything about it. Note: An AFC/BETA would have run towards me like a puppy & would have ruined his Game.
I’m pretty shy, so I just stand there. We duel like that for a couple seconds, trying to get one another to approach. He looks away briefly, but looks back @ me mainly, (10% away, 90% @ me). Keeps his body relaxed. I step away towards the pool tables to try and get him to follow me (NOTE: this is all instinctual behavior. I am not thinking, I am just doing what my SSystem tells me to). He remains where he is, still half-smiling. [Here is my 2nd IOI = I fix my hair, readjust my bag on my shoulder. Also, there’s a very passive IOI: I changed my location but kept smiling, haven’t stopped. So yeah, that’s an IOI, too].
Then I think he walks off, or I walk off, I don’t remember. So he hasn’t approached me yet at that point in time. However, what this little exchange did for him was - it made sure that: a) I saw he exists; b) I saw he is interested; c) I saw he is not afraid to show it – through his smile & prolonged EC; d) I saw he is not a threat – through his relaxed BL; e) I saw that his Social Value is so high that girls like me have to come up to him & not vice versa.
[A1-Phase: Open][Duration: Passive DHV ~30-40 min; Active DHV: ~ 5min]
I see ROCKSTAR-Alpha onstage later. He displays impeccable HE-Alpha-BL, even when compared to his charismatic singer, GOTHIC PRINCE. This BL, in combination with the DHV of being onstage, rocking the whole house out, makes his SV skyrocket. [~30 min] After the show, ROCKSTAR-Alpha makes sure to catch my eye & lock EC while he is talking to ppl @ his band’s merchandise table.
Of course, the interaction itself took much less time than it takes to write this out; I am explaining all this in such great detail just to make it more comprehensible to you that Game begins long before you approach a girl and that relaxed BL & DHVing are CRUCIAL. The whole pre-A1 demonstration of High SV actually took ROCKSTAR-Alpha a couple of minutes. In those minutes, a girl’s brain accepts you as a possible ALPHA or classifies you as a possible BETA/AFC. Your job is to show how Alpha-male you really are & keep showing it throughout all the Stages of the Game.
MM Lesson: Beginning the Game does not necessarily mean a DIRECT Approach. Approach can be indirect, like ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s – just show some warm interest – openly, from afar. According to Mystery, INDIRECT APPROACH is 90% more effective. DO NOT APPROACH TARGET UNTIL YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED HIGH SOCIAL VALUE all over the Venue, or at least in the part of the room she is in. Remember, you need to wait for @ least 3 solid IOI’s to approach her directly. If a girl doesn’t really IOI you right away, - don’t just stand there, move around the venue. Talk to your friends, to strangers, to the bartender. No one is going to be rude to you: 99% of modern-day people are socially conditioned to be very nice to strangers. So DHV all over the place, create Social Proof. Then return to her with that as your leverage. You can mingle & “move in for the kill” later. This effort is never wasted: worst comes to worst, you can always use the High SV you’ve established on the next TARGET you find attractive. The main thing is to act in a way that lets TARGET’s Inner Survival System FEEL that you are an Alpha-male. For this, she has to see you socializing.
MM Lesson: When you see your TARGET for the first time, show that you are curious, but that she has to earn the right to be in your company. Act like you are the prize, let her feel your high Social Value. Pretend as if you were about to walk away somewhere. But as if you saw her just now & have paused for a second. (Mystery’s 3-second rule is effective because it makes sure a girl will feel special. Let’s say, like, for the first 20-30 min after you see me, you keep glancing @ me & then looking away (10% @ me, 90 % away). I have not “stopped” your life = I feel I am just there, like other girls = I am not special = “Failure to Justify Mutual Attraction” = you fall into Player Trap # 1 even before you “open” me).
MM Lesson: Align your face & solar plexus in her direction, but have your lower body turned ~10-15 degrees AWAY from that line, to the side. (IF she starts talking to you, try increasing that angle to, like, 25% - turn your whole body a little sideways). This conveys to TARGET that you are a non-threatening male. THIS IS CRUCIAL. She is free to stay or go. You are not closing in on her. In fact, you were just leaving. You will be on your way - unless she IOI’s you heavily. Display WILLINGNESS TO WALK AWAY EVEN AFTER TARGET IOI’s you. I see a lot of Alpha’s do this all the time: they see a girl they like & begin to walk around, heads held high, showing me they are not a threat & DHVing at the same time. Some of them even turn their back to a girl intermittently or talk to someone else before they approach. REMEMBER: your first and foremost goal in pre-A1-Phase of this Stage is 2 show yourself from afar at first, to make her feel SAFE around you before you actually do “move in for the kill”.
MM Lesson: When Sarging, practice relaxing your body. This is important, because in tribal days Alpha-males had to fight to get what they wanted. According to marital combat theories, the best fighters are always relaxed, because they are not outcome-dependent. This allows them to react properly during a fight. So be the relaxed Alpha-male = this lets her SSystem know you win all fights. Also, this demonstrates ZERO AA. Uncross your arms, inadvertently show TARGET the inner side of your wrists – open your BL to her completely. This assures her “cave-girl” subconscious mind that you are no threat & have no weapons. While smiling @ me, ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s has his arms fall freely to his sides, wrists semi-open toward me. Keep showing TARGET the inner side of your wrists throughout your ATTRACTION & COMFORT STAGES – when you are talking to her (unless you are NEGGING or IODing her at the time, of course).
MM Lesson: AA [Approach Anxiety] is an evolutionary survival mechanism ingrained in courtship circuitry of all males. It was designed protect them during their search for a new mate in other tribes. It makes males hesitate when approaching an unfamiliar female for the fear that “her tribesmen will kill him 4 an attempt 2 pollute their gene pool”. Thus, if a male displays high AA, TARGET’s SSystem AUTOMATICALLY assumes he is NOT ON HIS TRIBE’S TERRITORY. Therefore, it rules, that he MUST be BETA (at least, on this territory). When you display 0% AA – TARGET’s System AUTOMATICALLY assumes that this TERRITORY belongs to you = You are the Alpha Male of the Tribe. Ways to deal with AA? Mystery advises to 1) Familiarize yourself with the venue before you go in there = visit it during the day, introduce yourself to bartender, make it YOUR TERRITORY; 2) Before your night begins, put yourself into THE STATE by opening 3 PRACTICE SETS. After you talked to a bunch of people, talking to one girl is not as scary; 3) Ignore AA completely = tell yourself it is an Atavism of Tribal times & is inapplicable in your modern life. Then just go ahead and OPEN the TARGET.
See Part 2.
Indestructible
05-21-2009, 02:15 PM
Part 2.
MM Lesson: REMEMBER: BL is CRUCIAL to successful Game. This is one of the main parameters by which girls choose you. Watch Alpha-males’ BL in the FIELD, watch actors/rock-stars. Practice as much as you can in front of a mirror. There are two types of Alpha-males, with corresponding BL: LE-Alphas [Low Energy] and HE-Alphas [High Energy]. (BANZAI & GHOSTWOLF FORUM NOTICED & EXPLAINED THIS PHENOMENON)
1) LE-Alphas are very attractive to girls because they are graceful & move slow, as if underwater. [Marlon Brando/Bruce Willis/Tyson Beckford/Pierce Brosnan/Matthew McConaughey] Moving slow conveys you are in control of the situation & are reliable. Mystery says that in any social circle, the person who moves the least has the highest social status.
2) However, most of the time, if a guy is too laid-back, a girl has to approach him herself, which considerably circumscribes LE-Alphas’ potential circle of mates. You want to strive to be the HE-Alpha - they get laid more often & quicker, because they choose an active approach towards pickup. [Steven Tyler of Aerosmith/Will Smith/Ashton Kusher]. This doesn’t mean you can’t be relaxed, this just means your energy level is a bit higher than that of the others. ROCKSTAR-Alpha is a High-Energy Alpha.
3) You may also choose to combine HE & LE Alpha-states, as Mystery does. Mystery is naturally a HE-person. But he practiced so much in the FIELD that MOST of the time he is able to display LE-Alpha BL. This also allows him to calibrate his energy levels depending on the situation. Like, in A1 = HE or LE depending the SET size, in A2 = LE to show he is unaffected, A3 = LE/HE depending on what routine he is going through, C-Stage = LE to make TARGET comfortable, and so on. This, I think, is what makes an effective TOP-Alpha-male, because it considerably expands your playing field.
MM Lesson: Remember to control your breathing. Breathe slower than others. Sometimes it is also useful to match your breathing pattern with that of the girl = familiarity.
MM Lesson: Unlike guys for whom seeing a hot girl is enough to want her, women need you to display certain Alpha-male CHARACTERISTICS to experience lust towards you. Keep in mind that girls evaluate your attractiveness based your PERCEIVED Social/Survival Value. Their SSystems do not care if you are rich = there’s no way for their SSystems to check your bank accounts, because there WERE no bank accounts back in Stone Age. The environment was unpredictable, one day you have a mammoth for dinner, the next day – it’s starvation. Females needed a way to find good, consistent hunters. So SSytems work with what facts they can obtain objectively = they OBSERVE your behavior. Therefore, ALL that SSystems care about is whether you are displaying the following Alpha-male CHARACTERISTICS: 1) Confident SMILE/optimism/humor; 2) DOMINATION of TERRITORY; 3) LEADER of men/Center of the Social Circle; 4) PRE-SELECTED by other women; 5) HIGH VALUES & MORALS/PROTECTOR of the weak; 6)STRONG FRAME CONTROL/Willingness to Walk Away; 7) WELL-GROOMED/PEACOCKED/CLEAN.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: The above character traits better be genuine, so work on developing them. This is why: When guys approach me, I classify them into one of these two categories: 1) “Will-f***-you-over”, 2) “Will-never-f***-you-over = because he never f***s ANYONE over”. I do this by watching how he treats others – his friends, WINGS, other girls, clerks, bartenders. Chicks can tell if you are BETA from ten miles away. I first saw ROCKSTAR-Alpha the pool-hall, but I did not necessarily want him then. He was just one of the cool-looking guys in the venue & I was flattered by his silent attention. What made me want him was the combination of all of the above character traits – which he displayed timely & properly. If you are negative/pessimistic, if if you are scared to draw attention to yourself, if no other guys or girls want to be around you, if you lie/brag/hide facts, if you are disloyal to your friends & put everyone down, if you are following me around like a lost puppy & don’t seem to have a life of your own, if you don’t shower, - it will all be a DLV for you. This shows you are low on survival resources and can’t get females. Mystery advises to work on your Alpha-male Characteristics for real, not just your pickup lines. Therefore, MM is beneficial to girls too - because it gives guys a solid reason to change their personalities for the better.
MM Lesson: Even if a hot girl actively decides to sleep with you based on your BL & High SV, she will put you through a series of tests anyway: just to see how Alpha you really are & whether you display those Character traits. Nothing personal = her Tribal Survival System requires her to test you thus, to ensure that her and her "hypothetical future offspring” are going to be safe with you. So TARGET will try and push your buttons to see how you react and whether she can “break” you. This is actually a hidden compliment. Females never test low-value males. Also, remember that even if she “breaks” you, it is not necessarily GAMEOVER. There are Recovery Modes you can use, but better not risk it.
After the music set is over, I see ROCKSTAR-Alpha @ his band’s merchandise table, talking to some blonde girl in a white dress. However, he notices me enter the room, for he seems to also be connecting with all the people who are walking in and out. He is doing this by simply making brief EC with them as they pass & keeping his half-smile on while talking to her. He gets alert as people enter or exit the room, is not afraid to follow them with his eyes. Does not seem to be over-riding his natural reactions towards people in order to appear socially fit/serious/tough. He just doesn’t give a s*** about it. His “openness to approach” makes it easier for me to pass by him & actually respond to him. Because:
1. If a guy is just standing by a wall or in a circle of friends with his back to the room, or acts neutral/serious/too cool/tough, if his face is a stone-clad/expressionless mask, it is much harder for a girl to approach him, because this would trigger her ASDefense Mechanism. A girl would be hitting on a static target & seem to be ACTIVELY chasing the guy, feeling like she is DLVing herself by the approach. As a rule, girls try to avoid lowering their SV voluntarily, especially in front of other girls. That is why not so many chicks come up to guys in the first place. (Although some outgoing girls have learned to override this ingrained emotional/social circuitry).
2. ROCKSTAR-Alpha is acting a total opposite of waiting/serious/tough. He seems already happy about himself/life in general & is “VIBING” with people in the room, like everyone is his friend. Thus, he has easily opened himself up for approach by ANY girl: his behavior alleviates the social pressure off females’ ingrained ASDefense Mechanisms.
I am not actually intending to go up to ROCKSTAR-Alpha directly as I am scared shitless, because he is so hot. I decide I am just going to do a “pass by”. [Usually, I do my “pass by” & wait for a guy to hit on me. My Game is VERY bad, because I never have the courage to fully IOI anyone I like. So guys are never quite sure if there even WAS an IOI or not. They lose their balls & fail 2 approach/escalate. Only very outgoing guys with no social calibration end up approaching me & usually end up invading my personal space.] So I circle the room, pass through the “mosh-pit-area” (there wasn’t a real mosh-pit there that night, I just call it that for location purposes) & return to the merch. table from the other side.
When I walk by [my Third IOI to him = Proximity], ROCKSTAR-Alpha, again, catches me looking at him & locks in our EC. As he does this, he STEPS BACK half a step. Naturally turns ONLY his upper body & face towards me, while his feet are still facing the table. Body-Rocks & says: “So, hi there… So I’m ROCKSTAR-Alpha and this is where our band’s merchandise is… blah, blah, blah…” launches into an easy chatting routine about his band, and smiles warmly. [Notice, the first word I hear from his mouth is “So…” This evokes familiarity, as if we had just left off another conversation earlier. This does not seem forced, because instead of staring @ me, he keeps glancing @ the table & the other girl when he says this]. When he intros himself, I think he offers his hand & I take it. Instead of standing there and shaking it like a dumbass, he swiftly leads my hand away from between us & down, towards the table, as if drawing a line almost parallel to the floor, but not quite. [NLP = Neuro-Linguisting Programming] He does this while semi-turning himself in the same direction, which draws me in and to the side, closer to him. But releases my hand quickly after introductions are over and steps AWAY [This takes him ~4-5 seconds]. Now, it seems like *I* had just stepped into *HIS* comfort zone. I don’t recall how this part happened for sure, because @ this point my excitement is at peak level & my brain shuts off some of its logical sections & floods with endorphins/dopamine/serotonin/whatever else chemicals they have for pleasure.
While doing all this, ROCKSTAR-Alpha keeps on chatting. Although he says nothing to convey this overtly, he makes me feel as if I have known him from somewhere before. While doing this, he is still standing FURTHER away from me than an AFC would. Is NOT fully ignoring the other girl, is NOT staring at me directly the whole time. Keeps casually looking at her, at the table, @ other people passing by. Another important thing: for the first ~ 2-3 minutes he never actually fully turns toward me while talking = his body remains at a 40 degree angle away from the axis to me. NOR moves in closer, NOR leans over. He maintains his DISTANCE.
Even after he GRADUALLY GRANTS ME ACCESS to HIS personal space & fully turns toward me, neither his shoulders nor feet completely align with mine on a threatening parallel, because he passes that parallel & turns the other way – towards the passage. While talking, he keeps his solar plexus turned AWAY from me a little [~10-20 degrees to the side] and his BL semi-closed.
MM Lesson: Never “lean in” while talking to TARGET in A1-Phase (Approach). Moving your body AWAY from a girl makes her evolutionary circuitry realize she is not in any danger from you. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH. Keep stepping from one foot to another, move your torso back, turn slightly away - as if you are about to leave. OBSERVE how Alphas in the FIELD do it. This is called “THE BODY-ROCKING TECHNIQUE” - you are conveying by your BL that you are a “busy-busy-busy” guy and about to go to a place that is much more “fun-fun-fun” – be it only into the next room, or even three feet away from where she is standing. “Body rocking” makes TARGET want to chase you.
ANDROMEDA LESSON: [How 2 “Body-Rock” properly]: Pretend you are a CAGED LION OR a PANTHER in a zoo. You are full of restrained energy, and there is a fence between you and your TARGET. She has a spear in her hand, so you are WARY. KEEP switching your weight from one foot to another, keep stepping away from her and to the side – then back towards her. If you want to be REALLY Alpha (to shatter an HSE-TARGET’s FRAME, for instance), you can even start pacing up and down in front of the fence, looking around from time to time. NEVER step across that fence in A-Phase (unless you are doing a brief CT test/IOI). If she steps over that line (accidentally, or because you IOI her) = you should pull back immediately, as if she is about to stab you. You can display interest, but you never jump over that fence (until she passes her COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD).
MM Lesson: Do NOT freak TARGET out by staring straight @ her in A1-phase. Look away 20%-25% of the time when she is talking to you. If you want to act REALLY ALPHA, you can increase that parameter to ~40-50% later in the Game - as you move her into A2-Phase. In A3 though, pay her more attention again, and decrease this parameter to, like, 30%. Glance around the room while she is talking to you. Look at other people, at friends, and scan the environment. This makes her SSystem feel safe, like you are “looking out for predators” to keep you both out of harm’s way = PROTECTOR of the weak = Alpha. Also, this shows her Modern Self that you have other things going on in your life, more important than just talking to her.
MM Lesson: Girls are bored to death with the same old openers. “How are you doing today/what is your name/where you live/how old are you/do you have a boyfriend?” - type questions are so lame. Every guy that approaches us asks the same questions/things over & over again. We are not a statistical bureau. Do not ask your TARGET too many questions about herself: doing so conveys too much interest, too soon. Just keep talking about your life.
Talk as if you knew TARGET 5 years ago and she’s an old acquaintance you want to catch up with. Lead the conversation. Tell her exciting stories about what happened to you today, yesterday, or to your friends. Stack routines, or just keep talking & moving away from her in small steps. This is why: 1) If you stop talking, BODY-ROCKING or ELUDING for longer than 1 min. in the initial A1/A2-stages of the Game, TARGET’s SSystem will classify you as NOT ENOUGH ENERGY = boring = AFC/BETA. It will prompt her to eject out of the SET to find a male who is more interesting/animated. 2) Listening to your talk occupies TARGET’s conscious mind, so she doesn’t really notice your Game. 3) Also, speech is an indicator of Higher SV because it shows you are @ a higher level of development than those Neanderthals – the guys hanging by the bar silently = you are smarter/more developed = higher SV = Alpha. 4) Plus, if you speak well, you MUST be the leader, because you have a better chance of convincing other males to do what you want = LEADER of Men = Alpha.
[A2-Phase: FEMALE-to-MALE Interest][Duration: ~ 20 min]
ROCKSTAR-Alpha is a master of Mystery’s concept of FRAME CONTROL. Later in the evening, in response to my comment that “Blond guys hit on me all the time”, ROCKSTAR-Alpha insists that *he* never hit on me first, that *I* was the one who came up to him. That is BS, of course: If he hadn’t stopped me while I was walking by, I would have just kept walking, no matter how tempting he seemed. But his comment is still a DHV 4 him; it makes it out as if *I* was pursuing him ACTIVELY, not passively. By comments like this, he crushes my FRAME/makes me accept his FRAME – that he is the Prize.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha is a master at Mystery’s Bait-Hook-Reel-Release game. Again, I don’t know if he just does this naturally, or if he learned the Game to perfection. I compliment him on his band, for they are really good. He thanks me. We are standing face-to-face now, his body turned away a little from me - towards the passage, not the table. So while talking to me, he gradually has turned about ~110 Degrees around from his original position, which was – facing the table)
ANDROMEDA (BAIT): “I like your tattoos!”[=Active IOI] [I lean in and I almost touch his shoulder, as if examining his tattoos.] [=Passive IOI]
Then I look to the side, cover my mouth and nose with both palms & make an excited squealing noise, like a teeny-bopper who had just met The Jonas Brothers. [=Passive IOI]:
ANDROMEDA (BAIT) [squealing]: “OMGGGGGGGGG, you are SOOOOO HOTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!”[=Active IOI]
While doing this, I look away briefly, then look back at him.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (Does not take my BAIT): He pauses for ~ 5 seconds to let me feel the impact of this pause [=Active IOD]. Does not step in after me. [=Passive IOD] Does not even lean in. [=Passive IOD] Keeps still, looks away briefly [=Passive IOD].
But keeps a benign expression on his face, his half-smile never wavers. This shows me girls do this to him all the time, he is unaffected = Alpha.
I step back in, turn to face him again.
ANDROMEDA: [re-starting the conversation]: “How many do you have?”
Instead of responding to my questions, he cuts me off = makes them unimportant/lowers my SV.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT) [cutting me off]: “What about you, Do YOU have any tattoos?” While he says this, he steps in closer - but not too close. Looks me up and down – as if considering my body for the FIRST time since we began the conversation. [Which is BS, of course, but he does it anyway].
ANDROMEDA (HOOK) [instinctively following his gaze & looking down @ my own body as if checking if I have any tattoos]: “No, I don’t” [=DLV].
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (RELEASE) [leans back]: “Oh.” [=Active IOD] Crosses his arms on his chest & briefly looks away at someone else, thereby conveying slight disappointment [=Passive IOD]. Falls silent [=Passive IOD] But keeps maintaining friendly EC.
ANDROMEDA [re-starting the conversation]: “What do they mean?”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT): Explains the meaning of two or three tattoos. Then says, pointing at his heart & then at his shoulders: “I have 6 total. The rest of them are over my heart & on my back”. [Grins]
ANDROMEDA (HOOK): “Oooooooooh, can I see them?” [=Active IOI] [I motion for him to pull his shirt up & almost touch his stomach as if I am about to lift his shirt up] [=Passive IOI].
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (REEL) [=Passive IOD] [Looks to the side briefly & grins broadly]: “Maybe if you are VERY lucky, this shirt will come off LATER. And THEN you’ll get a peek”. [=DHV].
Beams, “rewarding” me for my compliment/lean-in [=Passive IOI] (RELEASE)
I am smitten.
[B]
MM Lesson: Keep your BL consistent with what you are saying: Step in/lean in when IOIing her. Step away/lean back when IODing.
MM Lesson: In A1, A2, A3 - Dominate the conversation. Answer TARGET’s questions with questions. Cut her off. Cut all conversational threads that are detrimental to your Game. Otherwise, TARGET’s System will classify you as BETA & make her want to eject out of the SET. In A1/A2-Phases, DO NOT do what TARGET requests, no matter how tempting that might seem to you. Do NOT comply with ANY of her wishes. Do not take your shirt off, do not buy her drinks, do not give her your phone number, do not give her anything she asks for, etc. If you comply directly in A2, TARGET gains value, you lose it. NEG/IOD her first, both passively (BL) and actively (words/pauses). This will lower her SV & break her FRAME. Then later, in A3-Phase, you can offer your response to her request (if you feel like doing so). As if you’ve decided to do it on your own, of your free will & volition, and NOT because she asked. Afterwards, once you move into COMFORT, you can begin complying with SOME of her wishes to show she is GRADUALLY “earning” your interest.
The whole time we are talking, the girl in the white dress is just standing there (or I think she left for a while, then comes back, I don’t remember). She then tries to move in closer, participate in our conversation. ROCKSTAR-Alpha lets her, but moves half a step away from her & stands behind me. So now I am standing face-to-face with WHITE DRESS, and he - to the side looking at both of us smugly. Face-to-face with a stranger provokes aggression; WHITE DRESS begins getting annoyed/mad/impatient. This is ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s way of SOCIAL-PROOFING himself. He acts like he is a trophy & we are there to brawl over him. Although WHITE DRESS is not nearly as hot as I am, this shows my Survival System that ALL girls are ready to fight to get in his good graces.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: Seems hypocritical, but we girls LOVE it when this happens, because, really, we are all bored, we love DRAMA, DRAMA, DRAMA. Any DRAMA gives us a playing field to establish and raise our SV & make other females “envy” us. This is also why we need 300 pairs of shoes & expensive bags & newest cell phones & huge diamond rings. Our Tribal Self needs assurance as to our place in the hierarchy of the Tribe – it does so through outward displays of status. In Stone Age, we had shells/beads/banana leaves. In Modern Day – it’s clothing brands from Gap to Versace – depending on income. Therefore, even if another chick is not an HB10, if you play the Game right, it will trigger a jealousy/hierarchy circuit in your TARGET’s head. So ACT AS IF YOU ARE THE NEW VERSACE or PRADA BAG SHE SO CRAVES! SHE WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET YOU!
WHITE DRESS wants ROCKSTAR-Alpha to take a picture with her. She pushes WAY into my comfort zone to get to him, her huge, perfectly manicured nails are in my face. I grow uncomfortable, so my SSystem prompts me to move in & out-AFOG her. I grab her hands & gush over her manicure: “OMGGGG I LOVE your NAILS!!!!” ROCKSTAR-Alpha confirms they are nice nails. She gets distracted by him & shuts up. I step back & turn towards him & act all excited - clap my hands in a girly manner: “Oh, yey!!!!! Take a picture with MEEEE!!!” Note that ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s BL never opens up 2 WHITE DRESS. He steps back at her request, but steps back in towards me at mine. This shows me: a) that he has to fight girls off, escape them; b) that he deems me, and only me worthy of being within his comfort zone – if even for a little while. ROCKSTAR-Alpha takes out his Blackberry, hands it to her, leans over my shoulder and tells her to take our picture – me and him.
Note that this whole time, I feel like there’s a lot of stuff going on all around us: cameras changing hands, flashes going off @ the other merchandise tables. People are walking behind us, buying stuff from other bands - he makes eye contact with some of them, chats with people @ the other tables briefly, smiles at passers-by, etc. ROCKSTAR-Alpha is looking around the venue, then back at us; @ people coming in up the steps, back at us, @ people exiting, going towards the bathroom, then back @ us, etc. He does not stay in one spot for longer than 3-4 min. He leans in, then quickly moves away. Leans towards WHITE DRESS, leans away from her. Walks around me, fixing merchandise on his table, steps in, then back and away while talking to me - even if it’s just half a step back. He does this calmly though, in an unhurried, self-assured manner – like a “panther in a cage”. WHITE DRESS & I instinctively have to follow his every move, even if it is just to the other side of the table. We have no choice; all girls’ SSystems are hardwired that way.
This way, it feels even more flattering to have his attention return to me, than if he had been just STARING @ me & STANDING LOYALLY by my side the whole time. This ensures that when he condescends to notice something about me, or tells me something, I listen intently. Because he just stopped paying attention to the environment – therefore, it must be important.
MM Lesson: ELUDING = Leading the interaction and moving your SET around by stepping away from it. Makes TARGET experience more stimuli in the environment while she is talking to you. Makes it seem as if being near you brings more fun into her life than she EVER experienced with that AFC-guy, who just stood there talking to her 4 half a hour in one spot, not moving much, leaning into her, making her feel like he wants something from her. This strategy also makes it seem as if you are evading her constantly. SHE begins chasing YOU! Once TARGET is in Chasing Mode, you intermittently combine this with NEGS/BHRR/DHVing/IOIing/IODing. She falls into your FRAME & accepts it as her own = you win.
WHITE DRESS doesn’t want to “comply”, says the camera is failing to work in the dim light. She leaves us alone in a little bit though, due to me out-AFOGing her & due to ROCKSTAR-Alpha closing his BL to her = ignoring her. I feel like I am “winning him over”. My SSystem rewards me with dopamine/endorphins/serotonin/whatever.
After she leaves, ROCKSTAR-Alpha moves to the other side of the table, fixing merchandize. Keeps talking, tries to get me to buy merchandise/fall into his FRAME. By Body-Rocking, leads me to the opposite side of the table, near the bar.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT/DHV) [Stands to the side of me, sideways to table & facing the bar]: “Why don’t you get our CD? I’ll get the whole band to autograph it for you”. Picks up a bunch of CD’s offering me one [=CT]
ANDROMEDA (I Refuse to take BAIT): “You guys are great!” [Although I really like their music, I smile, shake my head & do not buy anything. My CL %-age is still too low.] I move out of this supposed “lock-in” to the other side of the table, so I am facing in another direction. I fall silent] [=fail CT].
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: [Keeps fixing merchandise, is not looking at me much] [=IOD]. Then picks up a T-shirt with their band’s logo, offers it to me: “Well you can get this T-shirt right here.” [=CT].
ANDROMEDA (I Refuse to take BAIT): [keep smiling, shaking my head, remain silent]. [=fail CT].
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: [Changes location again, moves behind me, passing around me, and is now on the other side of me]. Looks at others while passing, not @ me [=IOD]. So now, we are both looking in the same direction, he is almost behind me again [=NLP]. Points to a black thong with their band’s logo on it, touches it & says: “Why don’t you get this? This would look gooood on you! You should get it!” [=SOI. This allows him to convey Indirect Sexual Interest = prevents him from falling into my LJBF-zone]
[NLP = Neuro-Lingustic Programming. The fact that he stands behind me while saying this, rather than standing in front of me is supposed to make me feel as if he is “on my side” and is offering a friendly suggestion/is a Protector figure. Were he standing face-to-face with me while suggesting this, there’d be a greater chance of me rejecting his request. Because, remember, face-to-face=confrontation.]
ANDROMEDA (I Refuse to take BAIT) [Maintaining my FRAME of a “Good Girl”]: “Nah, that’s okay…” [=fail CT] I smile though.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha falls silent. [=Active IOD] Steps away to the other side of the table.[=Pasive IOD]. As “punishment”, he makes me QUALIFY myself, further re-enforcing his “screening” FRAME.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT) [while fixing merchandise, frowns, looks up]: “I noticed you wore a green shirt earlier. Did you change or something”? [=semi-NEG] Briefly glances back down at merchandise, keeps fixing it. Then looks @ me.
Saying a statement like that puts him in position of power: he notices things, judges me on them = plays it as if he is a Social Validator. I have to explain my actions to him.
ANDROMEDA (HOOK): “No, I took it off, um… Because it’s hot in here…” [I begin to feel self-conscious, so I begin to QUALIFY myself, [=DLV]]:
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (REEL) [“rewards” my SSystem for QUALIFYING] Pulls at his own shirt at the waist, as if airing it out]: “Yeah, you are right, it’s hot here!”
But since I didn’t follow him, remains WAY back to the other side of the table, away from me and does NOT smile, keeps a concerned look on his face. [=Passive IOD] (RELEASE).
MM Lesson: To avoid Mis-Calibrating & accidentally falling into TARGET’s LJBF-zone, convey Indirect Sexual Interest (SOI) as early as A3-Phase. A) This lets TARGET know that there IS a possibility she could get you interested in her sexually – IF she QUALIFIES for you and wins you over. B) This makes her aware that you possess sex drive in general, but you do not bestow such a valuable gift on just anybody. C) Because the interest is INDIRECT, this triggers no Survival System alarms. At least not as many as it would if you came out and said: “OMG, girl, you are so hot!” Because to her SSystem this reads: “I want to shag you senseless & leave you right afterwards with your offspring.” TARGET’s SSystems are designed to protect her from such males = in Stone Age raising a baby alone was almost like a death sentence.
Mystery advises to avoid launching into SEDUCTION STAGE without SOIing her a little earlier in the Game for the following reason: You don’t want to fall into her COMFORT zone, because then she will view you as a friend only. Another reason for SOIing is this: you don’t want to spring up your libido on her as a last-minute surprise, because then, her ASDefense Mechanism will kick in & reject your Game. Unless your game is TOP-LEVEL, try not to SOI @ all while in A1/A2, because TARGET has to feel like she worked hard to gain your sexual interest in her. If you do it too soon in the Game, you have just skipped two to five important steps & fell into her FRAME.
I think at this point, I re-initiate the conversation, we chat a little. Now he is turned so that he is facing the table, people are passing by behind him. I am facing him.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha turns to me: “So are you here with friends?”
ANDROMEDA: “Nope! I am alone”.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [micro-flinches with excitement: to him this means I am a 1-SET = gonna be easy to Game] However, half a second later his eyebrows go WAY up, (USE YOUR FACIAL MUSCLES, GUYS and don’t just stare @ us with stone-clad faces!). “Really?” [Pause.] “And why is that?” [Smiles, turns his right shoulder toward me, so now he is facing the table completely, almost looking over his shoulder @ me. Falls silent & freezes, even crosses his arms on his chest. But KEEPS SMILING & KEEPS maintaining EC.]
This simple step compels me to begin QUALIFYING myself to him AGAIN, trying to make myself “look good”.
ANDROMEDA: I launch into an explanation about WASHINGTON, how he couldn’t come out @ the last minute because of his family emergency thing, blah, blah, blah.
See part 3.
Indestructible
05-21-2009, 04:03 PM
As I begin “qualifying” myself, he “rewards” my SSystem for it: Keeps his lower body away, but leans in a BIT in here/opens his BL to me more, turns away from table & toward me. Listens quietly, nodding sympathetically, his head cocked to the side, but a smirk in his eyes, arms still crossed. Thus, he demonstrates his Alpha-male Characteristics: a) Social Validator = he is now in the position to judge me for being such a social retard = DHV4him/DLV4me = power; b) Protector of the weak/loved ones = he is now in the position to offer sympathy & support for the “poor old lonely me” = DHV4him/DLV4me = power.
When I am done explaining/QUALIFYING, he “rewards” my SSystem some more.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: [leans in, smiles broadly]: “So you just decided to “Rock Out” with us here on your own! You go!” [pushes his fist through the air in a “HELL, YEAH!” gesture when he reaches the “Rock Out!” part of the phrase [=NLP]] This is DHV 4him/semi-NEG 4me.
Now that I have DLVd myself, my SSystem feels very vulnerable. I move in closer. ROCKSTAR-Alpha rewards my compliance immediately.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: “Well in THAT case, you are going to hang with US now!” – he exclaims grinning broadly & extending his hand, offering it to me. His eyes light up & draw me in. He offers his hand from ABOVE & holds it in the air between us, almost at my shoulder level, NOT from below. So that it is I who would have to grab it from below = power is his. Read: “upper hand” symbolism, an effective subconscious demonstration of superiority. [=NLP]).
ANDROMEDA Lesson: Notice that he did NOT take my hand himself, like AFC’s/BETAs always try. ALPHA MALES NEVER TAKE ANYTHING BY FORCE. Notice that he did NOT ask whether I would LIKE to come hang with him and his friends. ALPHA MALES NEVER ASK FOR ANYTHING. They offer their hand or tell a girl to do stuff, and then just leave her FREE TO CHOOSE whether to comply or not.
I “comply” with his CT [COMPLIANCE TEST] and respond by putting my hand into his. [=pass CT] He “rewards” my SSystem by laughing very happily [=Active IOI]. With his hand, he then gently pulls my hand down & steps back looking straight into my eyes, smiling, pulling me playfully after himself. [=CT]. When I step in [=pass CT], beams at me & lightly squeezes my hand [=Passive IOI]. Lets go of my hand quickly [~5-6 seconds] When he lets my hand go, my SSystem makes me feel disappointed.
NOTE: He pulls me NOT towards HIMSELF, but rather AFTER himself as he steps half a step away. Rather than reveling in this new closeness with me, as an AFC/BETA would, ROCKSTAR-Alpha leans his upper body AWAY, so it is more like as if he already began walking to find his friends & is taking me with him as a favor.
This did two things for him:
a) He made me DLV first by making me QUALIFY.
b) Then established that he & his friends are of course “much-much-much” more fun than just me alone = DHVd himself = power. This demonstrates to my SSystem that he is an elusive prize/PRADA BAG about to slip away.
c) I jumped through his hoops/passed the CTs. I was “rewarded” for it emotionally. This paves way for my future Compliance.
MM Lesson: That’s how you want to touch a girl at the beginning of your Game – just for a couple of seconds. So when your touch is gone, she can’t object. Her ASDefense Mechanism simply had no time to kick in. She HAS no reason to object, because a) you never touched her first, you just offered your hand; b) she initiated the touch herself by AGREEING to it; c) your touch is already gone.
Thus, by touching TARGET lightly & keeping the interaction short (~2-5 seconds), you make her feel bad that you stopped touching her. Instead of feeling awful that you are invading her space with, like, a minute-long hug that you begged out of her [=AFC behavior], she misses it, wants to be touched by you more. Mystery says: never linger your touch. TARGET has to feel excitement & then regret that it’s over, instead of wondering “why the HELL is this creep grabbing me?” You are CONDITIONING her to LIKE your touch, (as opposed to forcing your touch on her, which trains her circuitry to reject it). ALPHA-MALES FORCE NEITHER THEIR TOUCH NOR COMPANY ON ANYONE, EVER. THEY ALWAYS GET THE GIRLS TO TOUCH THEM FIRST.
MM Lesson: Mystery advises to start KINO as early as you can in the Game. Make it all look natural; don’t closely follow your hand or her hand with your eyes. Look in her eyes instead. Don’t have an EXPECTANT look in your eyes, don’t watch her every move, like a predator calibrating his hunt & adjusting to TARGET’s reactions. You are Alpha, this is YOUR UNIVERSE; it adjusts to YOU, not vice-versa. If she doesn’t take your hand, don’t make a big deal out of it, remember, Mystery says that “nothing is big deal in the FIELD”. Smile & talk, talk, talk.
If she Complies with your CT’s, REWARD her!!!!! Not by money, but by more attention, laughter, happiness, energy. If she doesn’t comply – NEG or IOD her. When you reach C1, NEGGING should decrease considerably. Mystery says that in COMFORT STAGE, instead of NEGGING a lot, you should ignore her for a bit/fall silent/turn away if she misbehaves. Do not sulk/act pissy, just slightly shift your attention away from her. Again, you are conditioning her to comply with your wishes. An ALPHA MALE ALWAYS LEADS, BUT NEVER REACTS. The girl is always free & all decisions are hers, he just paves the way. That’s why we ADORE getting Gamed by Alpha-males!!!
Now that I have shown higher Level of Compliance, ROCKSTAR-Alpha is safe to begin to build a FUTURE TIMELINE:
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT) [stands closer to me/increases his energy levels = gesticulates while talking]: “There’s an after party at a friend’s house, it’s gonna be fun, food, drinks, whatever, blah, blah blah…”
[IMPORTANT: DOESN’T STARE @ me like an AFC when he extends this invitation. Glances away half the time he is talking. This shows me that
a) he is really excited about the party, not the prospect of me coming there;
b) even though he seems to be inviting me somewhere, he doesn’t really care if I come or not. He is just offering a piece of information about his awesome lifestyle.]
An AFC/BETA would have stared at me the whole time they were extending their invitation, gauging my interest. This would have prompted my SSystem pull back & wait for him to invite me actively (instead of passively), which would have DLVd him. So, Lesson: when hinting at a FUTURE PLOTLINE together, or inviting her to bounce from MEETING LOCATION, don’t look @ her 100%, keep glancing in another direction/@other people. She will get a feeling that you are inviting them, and will feel left out. This will prompt her to ask if she can be invited too.
ANDROMEDA (HOOK) [I smile & flitter my hands making “excited” gestures]: “Oooooh, can I come?”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT) Backs away & glances away briefly, as if thinking to himself/considering options: “Um… I don’t know, it’s not MY party, it’s @ a fan’s house, blah, blah, blah… ”
ANDROMEDA (HOOK): “OMG, can you please ask him if I can come?”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (REEL): “Hm… [Now he looks @ me, as if considering *me* for a second].
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (RELEASE) “Okay. I will. I will ask him if you can come with us…” [IOI’s me by nodding/breaking into a smile].
Thus, ROCKSTAR-Alpha is doing me a “favor”/playing PROVIDER Role = he gets me something I really want which I cannot get for myself – an invitation to an “exclusive” party.
Everything about ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s behavior proves to me that he is an ace at “push-pull”. After the invitation, he abruptly turns towards the table/away from me, physically ending RAPPORT & communicating that the interaction is over. Claps his hands together [=NLP], says, “All right! It was VERY NICE MEETING YOU, ANDROMEDA! Offers his hand while he says it, I take it in mine. He holds my hand while saying the following “But, look, I got stuff to do, merchandize to sell, (*implying* “fans to talk to”), etc. [Thereby giving me a FTC=False Time Constraint] “Why don’t you come here and chat with me LATER!”. He squeezes my hand here tightly, anchoring his handshake to word “Later” [=NLP] He stresses this word. This ensures I realize that he wants me to return, but just “doesn’t have time” right now. Then he turns the other way, looks towards the exit & at other people, almost showing me his back.
MM Lesson: This is a COMPLIANCE TEST. ROCKSTAR-Alpha does this to gauge my COMPLIANCE LEVEL. In FIELD, girls say one thing, and do a complete opposite. TARGETS may come up to you and tell you that you are the hottest thing on the planet. But that doesn’t mean they are ready to make out with you or sleep with you. To find out in which Phase of the Game she really is, you need to conduct COMPLIANCE TESTS to gauge her REAL interest/investment in you. The Game is always linear. As it progresses, TARGET’s Compliance Levels increase from 0% Compliance @ Cold Approach to ~10-15% as you guide TARGET through A2-Phase; to ~25% in A3-phase; to ~40-50% in C-Phase (Mutual Compliance); through 60-70% in S3-Phase. According to Mystery, ~60% is enough Compliance for her to have sex with you. For shy LSE-TARGETS, S3-specific-Compliance-Threshold (CL%-age needed for her to feel safe enough to have sex with you) has to be higher than 70%, otherwise it will trigger her ASDefense Mechanism.
A PRESENT TO YOU FROM MYSTERY: So now you have a quantitative way to measure whether your TARGET’s SSystem trusts you enough for you to escalate her into COMFORT and then SEDUCTION. You are no longer “flying blind”. The more CT’s TARGET complies with, the higher her CL percentage and the more Comfortable she feels around you. Keep putting her through CT’s, increasing the level of their difficulty, until you reach her COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD – a point where she stops DEFYING.
Run a lot of CTs, increasing the level of difficulty. If she gave you her hand voluntarily & you think you have been DHVing enough & you played the BHRR game right, then you ran a bunch of CTests, she passed them all, – the next step would be to tell her you are leaving for a little to talk/check up on your friends & see if she follows you. One thing I love about Alpha-males is their WILLINGNESS TO WALK AWAY. You GOTTA demonstrate that you are not afraid to leave your TARGET alone after “opening” her SET. This shows us you are secure, you know your value. You are not threatened by other guys who might be hitting on her, because your underlying FRAME should be: “OF COURSE SHE WOULD CHOSE ME OVER ANYONE NO MATTER WHAT! I AM THE BEST!”
If TARGET fails to Comply, this means her CL %-age is still low. To raise her CL%-age, you either need to either DLV her or to DHV yourself. Or you can just run more CT’s, just to be sure of what’s going on & which Phase you are really in. If she passes them, you can walk away & later come back into the room. Have her come up to you while you are talking to cool ppl. Or leave, and have her look for you throughout the club/venue. My ROCKSTAR-Alpha did this 3-4 times throughout the Game!
MM Lesson: Be persistent & patient, remain nice. Otherwise, you are dead meat. A TARGET will always sense your aggression, outcome-dependency & your fear to lose her.
So, without actually telling me to go away, he “assumes” I am as “busy” as he is – this is after we have already established that I wasn’t. NOTE that he is pushing for me to go away only AFTER he has already “reserved” me an invitation to chill with him & his buddies - This ensures I will want to come back. Normally, if a TARGET’s Compliance Level is high, she will try & stay near you, find another topic of conversation, or tap you on the shoulder to make you turn around, get your attention, or verbally ask you to intro her to your friends. Probably, some HSE-girls do exactly that with ROCKSTAR-Alpha after his little “push-pull” gambit. But he Mis-Calibrates here. I am and LSE-TARGET, and so I am already WAAAAY PAST my COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD. My SSystem will do EVERYTHING IT IS TOLD by HIM now.
MM LESSON: How do you know you have reached an LSE-TARGET’s COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD? She will demonstrate this by LOYALTY, PROXIMITY & 100% COMPLIANCE to your VERBAL ORDERS, rather than by active IOIing/KINO. Watch out for Mis-Calibrating & confusing LSE-TARGETS with HSE-TARGETS, because when you tell an LSE-TARGET to do something, and, according to your Game plan/strategy, you want her to do the opposite, she will actually go ahead and do the thing you told her to (even if she doesn’t want to), because her SSystem will force her to in order to keep you = survive. So now your Gaming strategy is all f*** -up. This could be DETRIMENTAL to your GAME.
MM Lesson: To distinguish between LSE-TARGETS & HSE-TARGETS, realize that LSE-TARGETS are already insecure without your NEGS. So, depending on their SE levels, LSE-TARGETS will NEG you back MUCH MUCH MUCH LESS than HSE-TARGETS will. Just her approaching & talking to you is a MAJOR IOI for an LSE-TARGET to display. They are not going to NEG you @ all after you NEG them, lest they lose their investment - your attention. They invested by just coming to talk to you: they overcame their ASDefense/shyness. LSE-TARGETS will fall silent & act self-conscious & begin to “QUALIFY” themselves, rather than retaliating @ your NEGS or trying to get you to start QUALIFYING. They are not going to IOD you ACTIVELY [read: VERBALLY] after your NEG, just passively - falling silent/moving away. HSE-TARGETS, on the other hand, will launch into a friendly banter/tennis match of NEGS/Active IODs/maybe even slight insults – to test your FRAME. This distinction will help you avoid over-NEGGING nice girls, and prevent you from accidentally building NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE, lest you get “glitches” in your Game & lose the TARGET.
MM Lesson: ONCE you reach the COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD, you can proceed into COMFORT STAGE of the MM Model. Your TARGET is showing high compliance with your wishes. You can now begin showing MUTUAL COMPLIANCE to your TARGET. ROCKSTAR-Alpha does not. He doesn’t realize I have already reached this point, so he keeps me in A2/A3 Phase, DHVing & NEGGING instead. This prevents us from moving into C1. This bewilders my SSystem a bit, because it expects him to start showing SOME Mutual Compliance, (start Conversation, intro to friends, begin GROUNDING, etc.) - and there’s none. But I am so hooked, so I ignore my SSystem’s need for Connection & decide to wait ‘till he is done with his A2/A3. [This is all without thinking though: in the FIELD, all is done on instinctive level for girls.]
MYSTERY is a genius: That is how the Game works once your TARGET is past her COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD: I really really really don’t want to leave ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s side, he’s soooooo hot. However, my SSystem is strict, it needs me to survive and the only way I can survive in the Stone Age is by complying with this “new amazing Alpha-male who just fell into my lap”. I even “fought off” another chick by out AFOGing her. I even was successful in keeping his attention on me, although other females were passing by - remember, he keeps looking away/walking away/eluding sporadically, the whole time he is talking to me. I exerted effort/invested, now I am hooked. So, I have to Comply. Otherwise, my SSystem tells me, he will find some new female, who does & will help HER “survive”, instead of me. Therefore, according to my SSystem, if I DEFY his orders = I am dead. At least I would be, if we were in Stone Age. So it over-rides all my wants/needs & orders me to “Comply”. So I force a f****** smile, & I nod, like walking away is exactly what I want. He has no choice but to let me go - he is Alpha, they never force anything. I leave the merchandise table area. I sense a little disappointment in him, he thinks I just failed his CT, when I actually 100% Complied. But he masks it well. He is VERY NICE about it. He is never mean.
Lesson: Alpha–males are never mean. “Polite” & “friendly” equals “in control”. REMEMBER, Alpha-males have abundance of everything, so they don’t get mad if you leave – HIS FRAME IS: “Oh well, there’s always a bunch of other chicks pushing themselves on him”. No sulking, no little temper tantrums, no dirty/angry looks after a girl’s SSystem rejects their Game, or doesn’t comply with their agenda – unlike AFC’s/BETAs. That’s why we DREAD being gamed by AFC’s and LOVE getting gamed by Alphas!!!!
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[A3-phase: MALE-to-FEMALE Interest][Duration: ~ 50 min.]
I proceed towards the stage area & settle down 2 watch the concert. At this point, my Survival System is in a great state of panic, because it is pretty sure I am losing interest of an Alpha-male with high Survival Potential. ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s “push-pull”/BHRR games make me feel like he is sooo High Value. His skill in PAWNing makes me feel that there are, like, 100 other girls who are trying to talk to him = other females are going to steal that Survival Value right from under my nose. Even though WHITE DRESS is not nearly as hot as I am, for the purposes of SSystem Jealousy-Mode activation this does not matter: the fact that she was willing to “fight” for him reinforces this illusion.
MM Lesson: DO play push-pull/Mystery’s BHRR game/use PAWNS. Gives your TARGET the emotional rollercoaster that she finds so addictive. YOU will become her addiction.
So I am upset, but I keep Complying: I stay away until “LATER”. My logical Modern-day self kicks in now and tries to help me get through this “Impassé”. I keep repeating to myself that it’s no big deal, because according to Mystery, “Nothing is EVER big deal in the Field”. I keep telling myself that I am scorching & that ROCKSTAR-Alpha will come get me in 30 minutes or less. That he’s just another guy, like any other, only with better Game. I keep reminding myself that I can have 20 guys like him following me like puppies on a leash, & at my beck and call day or night. I don’t know if that’s actually true, but I keep telling this to myself anyways.
I begin counting songs. One and a half song into the set, ROCKSTAR-Alpha comes into the hall. All the girls perk up immediately @ his entrance. Yeah, he is totally Alpha.“Peacocking” helps here; he looks like a true star. But it is his BL that is truly magnetic. The way he progresses through the room is astounding to watch - it’s like he moves in another dimension. It’s difficult to exactly describe his BL, but every Alpha moves that way & ALL FEMALES always physically FEEL an Alpha enter a room.
A GIRL’S PERSPECTIVE: The only way to see an Alpha-male how a girl sees him is thus: All other guys around her are BETAS, are blind, and are running @ ~7-15% efficiency – maybe select few are @ 29% MAXIMUM. They stumble & clumsily, step-by-step, by trial-and-error try to seduce her. She either rejects their Game or plays along & helps them EVERY STEP ALONG THE WAY, forgiving their major blunders in the Gaming Sequence. She forces herself to IOI/comply excessively, thus going overboard on it, DLVing herself, triggering her ASDefense Mechanism. She gets bored with BETAS, but plays anyway, because true ALPHAS are rare. Either way, she ends up feeling like s*** for Gaming BETAs, because every time she does, her SURVIVAL SYSTEM punishes her (chemically, in the brain) for choosing Low-Survival-Potential.
When a guy like ROCKSTAR-Alpha enters the room, it’s like something hits you in the stomach – he is running full-throttle, @ 98-100% efficiency. Her world just ZOOMS in on him, the rest of the Universe becomes obsolete, all other guys – shadows. She is no longer leading, she is being lead. And every single female around her FEELS what is happening & envies her for being with the LEADER of the TRIBE. This is what her SYSTEM craves. Alpha makes her feel safe and excited at the same time. He knows the stages of the MM Model, [instinctively or b/c he learned them - doesn’t matter - they have been there for centuries], guides her through all the Phases without major “Glitches”, without skipping any of them - WHICH MAKES HER SURVIVAL SYSTEM REWARD HER BEYOND HER WILDEST DREAMS FOR FINALLY GETTING THE BEST SURVIVAL VALUE 4 herself/hypothetical “offspring”. THIS IS WHY WE ALL HEART ALPHAS!!!!
So, ROCKSTAR-Alpha comes into the hall - too soon though, sooner than I thought he would. My System rewards me with dopamine/endorphins: “Yey! I GOT HIM on a HOOK! And so fast!” It makes me think, “Well, I guess he realized I am High Value Female”. (This is BS, of course, because he realized that when he first saw in the pool-hall downstairs during pre-A1-Phase. Nevertheless, his Gaming technique makes me feel like I FINALLY am winning him over = receiving the validation my SSystem craves.)
He does not go directly after me though. He is the Prize, remember? Stands about ~16 ft. in front of the bench I am sitting on, looks around for a bit. There are people all around. Finds me, but pretends not to see me. Two other girls come up to him, he “vibes” with them lightly. NO KINO with them. He is thus showing me he has options, but that he reserves “real vibes” 4 those who deserve it. This makes me feel sooo special. Doing this demonstrates to a TARGET’s SSystem that you “screen” those whom you allow to touch your body. Looks like he is having a great time. Looks straight at the girls, then briefly glances away from them when they start talking, but maintains enough EC & listens intently.
1) Does NOT hang on their every word.
2) Does NOT “lean in” while talking. Even crosses his arms & leans away for a little bit. Which makes THEM lean in & “chase” him.
3) Keeps looking around @ the crowd, laughs easily, creates the STATE that he is THE PARTY, that the party is everywhere he goes.
4) Everyone else around is low energy; around ROCKSTAR-Alpha there’s a nebula of light/fun/excitement. It draws everyone’s eye. Mind you, he is not doing ANYTHING special, he is not trying too hard, just talking & listening & grinning from time to time. But his BL and PEACOCKING create this illusion. This is the way to DHV in the FIELD.
Looks over @ me, as if he just noticed me. No reaction on my part, am just sitting, watching the show. I force myself 2 look @ the stage, the crowd. I glance back twice, but keep my BL non-reactive. I lean back on the wall & relax my shoulders. Of course, after 3-5 minutes, I give a slight sign that I noticed him = we “lock in” our EC for ~2 seconds. Right away, he politely excuses himself from the girls & heads towards the benches in a semi-circular trajectory. ROCKSTAR-Alpha never forces his company upon me out of the blue/unexpectedly. He ALWAYS waits for me to notice him first; never comes up on his own. He always does that: three-four times throughout the evening when I walk away from him, or he walks away from me, he NEVER comes & gets me. He just materializes in the room where I am & waits for me to notice him/find him. ONLY THEN he comes closer.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha approaches in a SEMI-CIRCLE. His trajectory is NEVER a straight LINE. Stops by me – not right in front of me, but a little to the side. Neither his solar plexus nor feet are FACING me, but facing the direction parallel to the bench/perpendicular to where I am looking. BUT is maintaining EC, so it doesn’t look weird/forced when he does this. If someone was judging only by his EC – they would assume he was coming here. Judging only by his BL - it looks like as if he was just passing on his way & paused & is about to walk off again. So here, he mixes signals to confuse my SSystem. Almost passes. Backs up, stops. Glances down @ me almost OVER THE SHOULDER, and then @ the person sitting to my right. Asks us whether he can sit down in “this spot right here”, points between us. He is always specific in his requests. Does this politely. We, instinctively, move to make room for him. Receives confirmation, lands in the seat next to me, to my right.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: Pretend you are a fighter jet performing routine aerobatics @ an air-show. When you are moving in a semi-circle, lean into the center of it slightly. Also, slightly turn one shoulder, so that your feet are facing forward, but your solar plexus is making a 10-15 degree angle to your trajectory line. When approaching, keep circling the room like a shark around TARGET, do not go straight for her right away! NEVER move in a straight line, unless you have to. NEVER approach your TARGET Head-on. This communicates aggression. ALWAYS approach from the side. [See more on Side Approach Later, in SPIKEY section]
I’m doing my best to describe his BL, but it would be much better if we could record the way he moves and post it somewhere on the web. DAMMM. But for now, you just have to observe Antonio Banderas and other Alphas of the Silver Screen – all pale wraiths of men in comparison to my ROCKSTAR-Alpha. :P
MM Lesson: Always remain polite to everyone, not just the TARGET you are Gaming. This DHVs you, because it shows her Stone Age System you have High Survival Potential: 1) you have high Values/Morals = posses Alpha Characteristics; 2) you are not unintelligent enough to be rude or to overtly display aggression when it is unneeded. Therefore, are less likely to die in some stupid fight = are more likely to live long enough to take care of her/her “offspring”. 3) This is also why, according to Mystery, it’s always advisable to game SOBER. Don’t get yourself all hyped up on alcohol in the hopes of raising confidence. It f***s-up your Game & broadcasts to every SSystem in the room that you have Low Survival Value = BETA.
The girl sitting to my right is a HB7, but she is dressed conservatively, so this is not that apparent. She hasn’t seen me talk to ROCKSTAR-Alpha before, because the Merch. Table was in another room. Like almost every girl in the venue, she was stealthily watching him the whole time while he was talking to those two girls. When he moves towards us, she flinches. Her jaw drops to the floor when he lands next to me & starts chatting. I say “jaw drops” figuratively, of course. But girls sense other girls’ responses towards a male by observing micro-reactions/micro-flinches of the body/facial muscles. So I see she is like, “WHOA! WTF?” ROCKSTAR-Alpha ignores her completely = his back is to her, which DHVs him even more in my eyes. As if hot chicks like her do not matter, only I do. (I’m a HB9, and a HAC on top of that, but still:).
ANDROMEDA [I check him out from head to toe, his accessories are so cool]: OMG, look at you! You are like a total ROCK STAR!!! [=Active IOI]
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [laughs]: “Well, haha, no, I am not a real Rock Star (implying “yet”)” [semi-IOD]
He starts talking: how he just quit his day job to follow his dream & pursue a career in music. This is supposed to show dedication & commitment. For most people, quitting a job to join a band is a negative thing. But we are metal chicks, so that is pretty impressive. He just landed a perfect gig & is touring.
As a side note: BTW, ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s band is signed. I find this out later on my own: he never brags about anything in A1, A2, A3. He thus ESTABLISHES a SYSTEM of VALUES: shows us he is ambitious, courageous, modest, persistent and a risk-taker – all Alpha-male Characteristics.
Indestructible
05-21-2009, 04:16 PM
Part 4.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT): “So what kind of music do YOU like?”
ANDROMEDA (HOOK): “Rock/Heavy metal.”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (REEL): “Heavy metal? Really? [Demonstrates slight disbelief, but maintains EC [=IOD/IOI mix]] (RELEASE)
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT): “So what’s your favorite band, then?”
ANDROMEDA (HOOK): “Ummmmmm…. Dunno… Motley Crue, GnR I guess…”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (REEL): shrugs @ my ignorance [=Passive IOD], glances away. [=Passive IOD]
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT) [leans in=passive IOI]: “Okay, well, name me their albums, & which one is your favorite?” [sits with his right hand open, his left index finger over his right palm = as if he is about to start bending fingers, counting off things I will say right or wrong]
ANDROMEDA: (HOOK) “Mmmmmmm…. I don’t know…” .
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (REEL): “Well *MINE* is _____names an album____ (I think it was “Appetite for Destruction” or something by Motley Crue, not sure. Like I am listening to what he is saying. RIGHT. I am too mesmerized by his BL & PEACOCKING)
ROCKSTAR-Alpha leans away/closes his BL [=Passive IOD]. (RELEASE)
So again, he demonstrates Higher Value, because:
a) This is DHV 4 him/DLV 4 me. He knows names of all albums of every band, and I don’t. It feels as if just because I don’t know this 1 rock or metal album, by this 1 group, the favorable impression I had made on him before has somehow been diminished.
b) This establishes his VALUES/MORALS SYSTEM, as he acts a little disappointed at such an apparent lack of insight into heavy metal/rock culture on my part. But brushes it aside, as if to say: “Okay, you don’t know anything about music I’ll let it pass this time. What else does your brain have to offer?” Of course, he never actually comes out & says it.
c) This puts him in “screening” FRAME. I don’t live up to his “High Standards” of what a metal chick is supposed to know.
[B]MM Lesson: “STANDARDS/VALUES/MORALS” can be arbitrary. But you need to establish them for the purposes of Gaming, because that’s the way Alphas turn it around & crush a TARGET’s FRAME & make her start QUALIFYING to them. Now this seems like a minor detail, but anything goes when you are trying to get a hot chick to DLV herself in A3-Phase. It’s not manipulation; it’s flirtation at its best. We LOVE the rush that push-pull” rollercoaster gives us! The lows are endurable, the highs - breathtaking!
MM Lesson: Establish a strong “screening” FRAME. Show TARGET you screen those you allow to get close to you/your body. Find seemingly non-harmful & neutral subjects on which to BHRR your TARGET. Then when she fails, show her that to YOU, they were important criteria in picking a mate. But since she is KINDA cute, you will let it pass. Just nod, and show her you made a mental note to yourself about her lack of insight. You will not count it completely against her, but still are disappointed, if ever so slightly.
For example, if you are really into news/politics/economics, make her feel a bit stupid that she hasn’t heard the latest details of a recent financial scandal. Or, if you are honestly concerned about the state of ecology today, act surprised that she knows nothing about protecting the environment. Or, if you are into new trends, tease her about not having seen all the latest movies in the theatres [thereby PLAYFULLY implying that she is SUCH a home-body, no one takes her out, etc.] Or that she doesn’t know anything about fashion. If she asks you “Are you gay, or something?” Look around @ other people, as if they are sharing your incredulity & say: “Yeaaah!!!! Haven’t you realized that yet? OMG, she is SO silly! But you would be SO my type if I wasn’t!” – this is Mystery’s favorite line. REMEMBER TO SMILE while you are saying all this!
MM Lesson: Combine this with congruent BL, pull away, cross arms when RELEASING [if you are releasing by IODing]. Now TARGET has to QUALIFY herself to you & say or do something to make her like you again – as much as you liked her before she “failed” your “test”. When she begins QUALIFYING herself, “reward” her SSystem. According to Mystery, RELEASING may also be done by IOIing. So don’t get stuck punishing your girl every time she answers your BAIT questions. Sometimes it’s better to reward – depending on the situation, of course.
Note: all this takes ~5-7 minutes of conversation and is very subtle & carried out in a non-malicious manner. Just a friendly exchange of information. It flows from him so effortlessly that I really think he IS a “Natural-Born Alpha”. He is not stacking routines/not using Cold-Reading techniques/Magic Tricks/Photo Routines/Zodiac gambits/the CUBE/memory games = he must be mostly a “natural".
While talking, ROCKSTAR-Alpha involves another girl into our conversation – not the HB7, but a girl who is sitting at my right shoulder. In my mind, I call her HELPFUL GIRL. So while he is DHVing himself and DLVing me through his BHRR, this is all done in front of HELPFUL GIRL. It feels as if am being put on the spot or am being interviewed for a job. By involving her, he creates SOCIAL PRESSURE. Now, my Compliance Levels should rise automatically. He is effectively using her as a PAWN, although that girl is not a friend of mine, and in fact, she is no one I even know.
MM Lesson: Keep in mind that when you are running a SET, all the girls in the proximity might be watching you, the TARGET, and your interaction with her. Your TARGET looks at other girls for their reactions towards you, she needs their approval/validation. This is Instinctive Tribal Behavior; all girls are hardwired to “protect” each other against being “impregnated” by unknown Males-Not-of-Their-Tribe. Because if a male is not of the Tribe, he, most likely, is not going to stick around to raise the offspring. Or he will be killed/driven away by the tribesmen of the girl. So this is done for Survival reasons: all those other women might end up having to share Survival Resources [read: sharing food] because TARGET will then have no hunter to obtain food for her & her baby.
So, if the other girls in your SET don’t like you and if they succeed in putting you down & breaking your FRAME, your TARGET won’t go for you. This is a core MM principle. THEREFORE: You always DHV to your TARGET’s audience first, win them over, “VIBE/Establish RAPPORT”, become friends with them, whoever they are, get from them the confirmation of your higher SV, and only THEN get back to Gaming your TARGET.
A PRESENT FROM MYSTERY TO YOU: Good news for you though: any audience exerts SOCIAL PRESSURE. So when you get TARGET 2 DLV in front of her friends/other people/ groups of girls, especially when her friends begin to want you, your Game progresses @ x10 higher rate than it does when talking with TARGET one-on-one. Same thing goes for “rewarding” her – do it in front of a large audience if TARGET jumped through a large hoop. This will skyrocket her Compliance Level.
So in this case, I see how much HELPFUL GIRL likes Rockstar-Alpha, but she is also instinctively trying to protect me from his advances. She is totally on my side when he runs another NEG/Compliance Test in regards to my supposed parental irresponsibility:
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: “And what do YOU do for a living?”
ANDROMEDA: “I’m a stay-at-home Mom.”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [pulls away]: “You have a kid???” [Pauses=Active IOD] “Hahahaha!!!” [While laughing, he slaps his hand on one knee] “That’s some GOOD parenting!” [looks around at other people, calling their attention to his NEG] “You left your baby @ home to come here and now are PARTYING your ASS off with US! WAY to go!” [Passes his hand through the air, doing his “Hell Yeah!” gesture again]. [=NLP]
This:
a) DLV 4 me/DHV 4 him because NOTE: I didn’t specifically come to hang out with him. 2 hrs ago, I didn’t even know he existed. He makes it out as if I sacrificed something important to come to him = FRAME CONTROL = Alpha;
b) raises Social Pressure = calls for higher compliance on my part because it NEGS/DLVs me in front of an audience; my SSystem feels as if the whole “Tribe” is watching me;
c) shows me he is not afraid to cause some commotion = this is his TERRITORY = he is Alpha;
d) allows him to use NLP [Neuro-Linguisting Programming] again to hook my emotional state and make me want to chase him every time he performs this “Hell YEAH!”gesture;
e) appeals to my logical portion of the brain as much as it does to my emotional side: he is explicitly/verbally indicating how much fun I am supposedly having around HIM & his friends (whom I haven’t even met yet, BTW). So in order to appease my emotions, the logical portion of my brain should make a decision to try to be around him more.
HELPFUL GIRL supports me by saying: “OMGGGG, being a parent is SOOOO hard, you have no idea! Give her a break, blah, blah, blah”.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha remains silent while she it talking. But looks at her. Then at me.
ANDROMEDA: [Am thankful for her support, but ROCKSTAR-Alpha seems unconvinced, because he is silent & is staring @ me. So, AGAIN, I am forced to QUALIFY myself]: “Dude, I do not party that much, I only go out once in a while. My babysitter has kids of her own so we switch, blah, blah, blah…”
Of course, the only fact that matters to ROCKSTAR-Alpha here is that I just began QUALIFYING myself again. He doesn’t really care for my son; he just wants to DHV himself and DLV me. But he makes it SEEM like he cares. It’s as if he is saying “Well, *I* would never leave *MY* son @ home, if I had one: *I* got morals”. (Which is complete BS, of course, but it works for the purposes of the Compliance Test.)
Thus, he demonstrates three CHARACTERISTICS of an Alpha-Male - that he: a) is a loyal PROTECTOR of loved ones/innocents, b) has a SYSTEM OF VALUES/MORALS higher than mine; c) is a SOCIAL VALIDATOR = reserves the right to judge. Plus, he lowers my Social Status by a) making me QUALIFY & b) making me seem like the “bad person”. However, again, he never actually comes out & says any of this. It’s all IMPLIED.
NOTE: Alpha Males are usually very positive, optimistic guys. Negative words/expressions rarely pass their lips. ROCKSTAR-Alpha NEVER utters the words “bad parenting”. Never accuses me of anything. All his comments are “positive”, but they mean the opposite. This all sounds so horrible, but in reality, it was all said with a smile, laughter even. This does not mean this guy is manipulative or cruel or evil. It’s just a necessary part of the Game. For him, it all comes out naturally, as if he was just amused by my “antics”. But in my mind, this DLVd me, while HE comes out of the interaction as a benign & very caring person. He does this to put me on that “push-pull” rollercoaster that we, girls, so love.
MM Lesson: Set up a SYSTEM OF VALUES/MORALS that is somewhat incongruent with TARGET’s actions. Find ways to say positive things in a slightly dubious light, as if hinting at the exact opposite. Thus, TARGET will be forced to “qualify” herself to you & launch into explanations/justifications. This grants you the status of the judge of her = DHV for you = power; DLV for her = loss of power. At the same time, you are showing what a caring, ethical “White Knight in Shining Armour” you are – with morals and all.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: “So you are married?
ANDROMEDA: “Well… um… separated.”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: “For how long?”
ANDROMEDA: “Um… several months now?”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT) [leans in, passive IOI]: “Hm…” [Pauses. = Active IOD] “So then where’s your engagement thingie…um..ring?” [We are sitting side-by side. While saying this, he lifts his right hand in front of me, holding it out to me. This is another Compliance Test.]
ANDROMEDA (HOOK) [I comply. I give him my right hand on which the rings are]: “Here.” [I show off my rings smugly, as they are pretty big.]
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (REEL) [Examines them briefly, turns them over. [~3 seconds] Throws my hand away.] “Hm....” Doesn’t say anything else [=Active IOD] (RELEASE)
After the small pause, launches into another topic. However, by complying to his test, touching him & answering his HOOK questions, I have just begun to DVL myself again. I gave him my hand and he didn’t even overtly ask for it = my Compliance level is rising.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT): “Where’s the picture of your kid then? Show me!” He does this to seem like a caring guy, but also to check if such a “bad” parent even has it in her wallet (and if not - to NEG me again). This also allows him to DISQUALIFY me as a mate for himself, because I already have offspring.
ANDROMEDA (HOOK): [I pull out a picture of my ex-hubby, my baby, and me. Show it to ROCKSTAR-Alpha, then to HELPFUL GIRL].
HELPFUL GIRL [Displays willingness to connect with me, not with ROCKSTAR-Alpha]: “OMG, Your ex looks kind of familiar!”
ANDROMEDA (BAIT): I lean toward her, lower my head closer to hers, mirroring her BL as she is examining the picture with me. I smugly & loudly declare: “Yeah, he looks like Jonny Depp from Pirates of the Caribbean”.
HELPFUL GIRL launches into her conversation with me; she thinks she went to the same school as my ex, blah, blah, blah…
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (Refuses to take my Bait & react to my ex’s hotness) seems to listen to us for a while. [~ 1-2 minutes pass]
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [cuts us off, getting up suddenly]: “All Right!!!” (Claps his hands on his knees) “It was very nice talking to you, but it’s time to go see my friends!” Smiles at us while he gets up, but then quickly glances in another direction, as if he has seen his friends in the distance (RELEASE) [This gives me a False Time Constraint again.] And is training me, like a dog, to respond to his claps? [=NLP]
As ROCKSTAR-Alpha gets up though, he does not walk off right away briskly, but moves slow, slightly looking over his shoulder. Again, his trajectory is NOT a direct line, it’s a SEMI-CIRCLE. His lower body leans away from the center, but his upper body leans into the circle, his head semi-turned towards me. He is giving me a chance to choose & go with him. But this ends quickly. He begins turning his back & heading away. Note: He was moving fast while getting up & talking, but slows down a bit as he is walking away.
This is so sudden, it throws my SSystem into panic AGAIN.
I hesitate, torn between my newfound loyalty towards HELPFUL GIRL & the wish to keep ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s company.
This is another Compliance Test. ROCKSTAR-Alpha first lowered my SV by his BHRR/NEGS/IOD’s. He increased my CL by conducting the “Ring” experiment and seeing if I give him my hand. He did all this in front of an audience. Now he wants to see if I will follow him. He thus also diverts my attention from HELPFUL GIRL and breaks my short-lived alliance with her. Otherwise, she might have played “the Disapproving Tribal Woman” role by creating the possibility of social consequences and ruined his plans for me. Or, she and I would have become friends, and turned on him together to instinctively try and lower his SV = protect each other. He does not want to waste time & start winning me all over again. But yet, he IS WILLING to risk losing all the work he’s done so far = is WILLING TO WALK AWAY.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: Tribal girly protective connections form quickly, almost instantly, so watch out for this.
MM Lesson: Do not let your TARGET form alliances with other girls. They both might turn on you and try to “break” you – i.e. lower your SV, so you will have to work twice as hard to get the same girl later. After A3, ISOLATE your TARGET from friends. Again, do so POLITELY, with her & her friends’ consent, of course. Do so only after you have DHV’s for them enough and only after she passes a couple of your CT’s. Otherwise you are programming her to FLAKE. Remember, AN ALPHA-MALE NEVER FORCEFULLY SEPARATES TARGET FROM HER FRIENDS, HE SIMPLY LEADS AND SEES IF SHE WILL FOLLOW. He comes up, shows everyone how much of a fun/moral/in control guy he is, screens everyone, and offers a girl a choice to follow him into his exciting Universe or not.
An AFC/BETA would have joined the conversation & kept listening to everything HELPFUL GIRL and I say, hoping to get into our good graces. Thus, AFC/BETA would have paid unneeded attention to my ex’s hotness & fell into our FRAME. Or DLVd himself unknowingly just by giving up control of the conversation.
MMLesson: AFCs/BETAS always let the conversation go on in whatever direction TARGETS choose; until the latter either hit an unfavorable thread or decide that it is HE who is boring. AN ALPHA-MALE ALWAYS LEADS THE CONVERSATION, & CUTS OFF THREADS THAT ARE DETRIMENTAL TO HIS GAME. As soon as TARGET starts DHVing herself/DLVing you, does/says something that is incongruent with your Game plan (mentions a hot guy, an ex-boyfriend/present boyfriend, checks someone else out, etc), INTERRUPT her (do it in a non-aggressive manner) = IOD her. You can NEG her in A-2/A3 Phase. In Comfort Phase, you can only use Withdrawal of Attention Technique.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha calibrates properly. For instance, if he had tried to NEG me at this point, it would have shown me he is paying attention to my ex = is competitive/insecure = BETA. However, he is in A3 already - he just got up and left – not right afterward, because that would also show 2 much reactivity. He WAITED for a little bit, and only then Withdrew his Attention. This shows my SSystem he is leaving for other reasons than my actions = is not dependent on my actions= is independent= is Alpha.
MM Lesson: Every time your TARGET fails to comply with something you want her to do, you should neither get mad/sulk nor in any other way show her you are upset by her actions, whatever they may be. Because this would demonstrate your dependency on her. That shows a girl that she is important in your life already, and that she can control how you feel. Her SSystem reads this as BETA-Behavior, because she has done nothing yet to “deserve” such an intense investment on your part. On the contrary, if you never react, she will have no reason to think you are upset with HER in particular, or that she even HAS the power to upset you. Her SSystem will conclude that she has no power over you. ALPHA-MALES ARE NEVER UPSET. In my FIELD research, I noticed one thing: ALPHA-MALES ARE ALWAYS HAVING A GOOD DAY. So just IOD her = turn away and close off your BL from her (cross your arms, lean away, cross legs away from her) or fall silent, as if you are in your own thoughts, or look away for a while at other people - as if something else is more interesting right now. She will begin to feel unimportant. Most likely, she will stop doing what she was doing & will eventually try to remedy the situation. She wants to get your attention back. And she will act on it.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: I have been observing a lot of successful people in my life lately; they all come from different cultures, countries, socio-economic backgrounds, are of different races, are at different points in their lives, at different monetary/marital/career levels, they are businessmen, healers, teachers, millionaires, leaders, doctors, rock-stars, mothers, you name it. And they all have only one and ONLY ONE THING IN COMMON = they are ALWAYS HAVING A GOOD DAY. NO MATTER WHAT. THEY ARE IN “THE STATE” CONSTANTLY.
MM Lesson: IMPORTANT: ALPHA-MALES DO NOT REACT. Weak AFC’s/BETAs react, because they feel weak/out of control. Aggression is a protective mechanism; it kicks in when an animal feels threatened & needs to re-gain control. AN ALPHA-MALE IS ALWAYS IN CONTROL OF THE SITUATION. THEY IGNORE A GIRL’S ANTICS & COME BACK WITH PLAN B. Remember, you are Alpha, you are like the SUN. TARGET should hang on your every word and strive to be in the sunlight. When you turn away, you are basically punishing her cruelly.
This is the ONLY way to “punish” a girl when Gaming her – all other ways will inevitably result in DLV for you. If you react, sulk, act angry/upset/attack her in any way/walk away with a mean expression/put her down/call her names/show her that her actions hurt you - you are basically handing her a key to your emotions & putting her on a pedestal. Most AFC guys make exactly this mistake. When I really like a guy, I always try to push their boundaries. All girls will do this to you, because their circuitry needs to ensure you are Alpha and she is safe to “mate” with you, not a “Beta” who is about to “die” when pushed over the edge. NEVER take this personally: there is a protective mechanism in our heads that induces us to test your toughness = we already believe you are Alpha, we just gotta make sure. WHEN A GIRL BEGINS PUSHING YOUR BOUNDARIES, IT IS A HIDDEN COMPLIMENT. It’s sad to see guys get upset/walk away from a SET they just opened (& progressed in considerably) because of one such slip: 4 them it’s GAMEOVER. For WE DO NOT EVEN BOTHER TO TEST BETA-males. We just let them worship us from afar.
Lesson: In FIELD, do not take anything personally. Whether she Complies with your CTs or not, is in no way indicative of your personal worth. The test result is just a measure of your Gaming skills – ex. whether you have DHV’d 4 her enough yet. If you have – she will follow you like a puppy.
And so I did. I jumped up right after ROCKSTAR-Alpha, & said: “Wait, where are you going? Take me with you!” I even touch his lower arm, as if to stop him. (And I’m not really a KINO girl @ all). The earlier invitation played a HUGE part. I assumed that when he was going to go see his friends, he would take me with him. He even anchored this desire in me with his handshake, remember? [NLP] The fact that he got up to leave without me, to see them, sends my SSystem into panic/”Damage Recovery” mode. I know GAME theory well, and realize what he is doing, but by that point I DONT REALLY CARE!
MM Lesson: That’s the beauty of the Game – if you act Alpha-male enough, a girl will forgive you anything. She will disregard her logic, friends’ opinions, common sense, etc. Her Survival System’s Mechanisms will override it all.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha probably would have returned 4 me later anyways. But a) I have already QUALIFIED myself so much to him, I am invested into him; b) he had already DLVd me to such an extent in front of HELPFUL GIRL, that now my SSystem wants to DHV to her. My FRAME is totally twisted and his Social Value is through the roof in my mind. To let him leave me right now would DLV 4 me even more. So my SSystem decides that I should rather stick with him & show her I am with an Alpha-of-the-Tribe, show off all SV I am receiving around him.
When I get up to follow him, ROCKSTAR-ALpha does something awesome! He was walking away, right?[=CT] As soon as I touch his upper arm, he turns around to face me, laughs merrily, his whole face lighting up. He holds out both of his hands to me immediately [=CT]. I smile back [IOI] & I comply like clockwork & put my hands into his [= pass CT]. He begins backing up & pulls me in after himself gently [=CT]. When I follow his lead [i.e. comply again/pass CT], he stops backing away, lets one of my hands fall, turns around, & holding my other hand in his, & leads me a couple of steps after himself to see if I will follow [=CT]. I do [pass CT]. He then suddenly picks me up, hugs me and twirls me around!!!!! I felt a RUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People around us turn to look @ all the commotion – “WTF”?
Dudes, I tell ya, that’s how it’s done!!!! Now this might not seem like much progress to you guys, but it sends my SSystem into INTENSE REWARDING MODE. One moment he was walking away, I was in total panic. The second - I seem to have advanced in “winning” him over such a great extent! Without seemingly having done anything, but just following him! AND he validates me in front of the whole “TRIBE”!!!!! My “ancient” brain pleasure center is going: WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE thus rewards my SSystem for complying with his wishes – not only by sharing his own Higher Status, but with the attention of the “Tribe” = of ALL the people around us!
MM Lesson: Lest you Mis-Calibrate and make a dumbass out of yourself in front of all them people, here are general guidelines for KINO-escalation: Do the “twirl” thingie ONLY after TARGET passed 2 solid CTs (or more) and only after you got a bunch of IOIs from her. My CT’s/IOIs were: (#1) I previously passed his “Ring” test [=passed CT], (#2) I have QUALIFIED myself to him; (#3) I verbally reinforced the clarity of my desire to follow him [=Active IOI]; (#4) I got up to go after him [=passed CT]; (#5) I touched his arm [passive IOI], (#6) Smiled back when he smiled @ me [=Passive IOI]; (#7) I took both his hands in mine when he offered them to me [=passed yet another CT];(#8) I followed him when he pulled me after himself [=passed another CT]; (#9) I followed him when he walked a couple of steps away still holding his hand [pass CT].
He then further “rewards” my SSystem: offers his hand to me & walks with me thus through the room, as if we are “together”. By doing this, he lets me FINALLY share his High Social Value. Moreover, he does so in front of an audience = using Mystery’s concept of Tribal Hierarchy to his advantage. It is as if he is showing people in the venue that “Look, I am so Alpha! And she is with me - don’t mess with her!” Your TARGET’s subconscious Survival System craves that kind of reassurance from you, because she considers you High Value & wants to survive = needs your protection. Although caveman-days are long past, when it comes to rules of attraction, we are NOT living in 21st century.
MM Lesson: SO THIS IS VERYYYYY IMPORTANT: REWARD ALL GOOD BEHAVIOR!!!!!! If TARGET follows you, complies with your request in any way/jumps through your hoop, kisses you on the cheek when you ask her, buys you a drink when you ask her, waits for you in the spot where you asked her to stay at, puts her hand in yours when you offer it, does whatever else you ask her - REWARD HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember to Calibrate: the larger the hoop, the larger the reward. Keep increasing the level of difficulty until you reach COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD and then as you go through C-Stage to S-Stage. Use “Tribal” mentality when you reward your TARGET. It teaches her System to act in accordance with your desires all throughout ATTRACTION & COMFORT STAGES, and all the way down to SEDUCTION STAGE. Mystery says that sex is just another COMPLIANCE TEST. Moreover, rewarding thus floods TARGET’s brain with endorphins/dopamine/serotonin/whatever is in her system for pleasure chemicals & she learns to like that feeling of you rewarding her. You basically have just conditioned her to obey you (in a way). Nevertheless, she preserves her own free will – because EVERYTHING SHE DOES IS ALWAYS HER CHOICE.
MM Lesson: IF TARGET fails your CT’s & keeps DEFYING, you won’t be able to move her into C1, C2, C3 (where she gives you her #, starts KINO-escalation, etc). If she doesn’t follow you, then keep walking, do NOT stop or wait for her. Walk away. Disappear for a WHILE, make her wonder who else you might be talking to. Make her find you. Then, if that does not work, you can come back in a little bit, with a bunch of friends, if possible (=SOCIAL PRESSURE), with a hot girl (=JEALOUSY PLOTLINE), but don’t go straight back to her. Run other routines, open other SETS in front of her, with hotter girls, if possible. You never know, there might be chicks there who are more receptive 2 your push-pull. She has to see you “VIBING” with friends, bartenders, “OBSTACLES”, out-AMOGing toughest guys, flirting with other girls. Make her want to come to you.
MM Lesson: Avoid becoming outcome-dependent: you are in the FIELD just to train (at least for the first 6 months of learning MM). There are 6.5 billion people on this planet, half of them women. If not her, then there’s always some other incredible chick out there, waiting for you. If you are stuck on just one girl & you think she is special, you have what Mystery calls “ONE-ITIS”. A sure cure for “ONE-ITIS” is Mystery’s GFTOW formula. Look it up.
See Part 5.
Indestructible
05-21-2009, 04:32 PM
Part 5
We walk across the hall, holding hands. He leads, I follow. We walk ~ 20-25 ft away from benches. People stare at us. Thanks to his Peakocking, ROCKSTAR-Alpha gets attention wherever he goes. He lets my hand go.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: “Let’s sit down right here.” [looks @ couch, not at me while he says this & sits down. This tells my SSystem he is not waiting for my responses, is not dependent on my decisions = Alpha] He leans way back, thus demonstrating high value. I follow him and sit down next to him.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [pulls out his phone]: “Here! You said you wanted a picture with me?”
ANDROMEDA [I lean back too & settle down against him]: “YEY!”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [puts his left arm around me while holding his phone out in left hand, away from us, & snaps 2 pics]. Then takes his arm from around me and now we are sitting side by side, I am leaning in. He looks @ the pix: “Why don’t we do this: you call my phone and then I will send you the pictures that way”. A slick way to get a girl’s number. He never asks for it directly or too soon into the set, It now has been ~2 hours now since his pre-A1-Phase in the pool-hall (he played onstage afterwards, so that took time, too).
MM Lesson: DO NOT ASK TARGET for her number within the first ~30 min - ~1 hour of meeting her (esp. not when Gaming longer than 2-3 hrs total that day). That’s a MAJOR DLV. Do not ask her for ANYTHING. You are not BEGGING, you are SCREENING. It is she who has to offer her number to you or ask for yours @ the end of the interaction - as a means of getting together at a later date. Mystery says, TARGET has to ask for the date, too, not vice-versa. Do not treat phone numbers as notches on your damn Warrior Belt. Most girls give phone numbers just because a guy asked, NOT because they really like him. Then they FLAKE on him. Use some of Mystery’s Number-closing routines instead: ex. “It was very nice to talk to you. What steps can we take to continue this conversation?” – then wait for TARGET to offer her #. If she doesn’t - act unaffected.
The pix turn out horrible, I look really fat & ugly in them (at least in my opinion). So I do not give him my number @ that time. Had he VERBALLY told me to give him my # at this point, I would have obeyed. One of drawbacks in ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s Game is that his CT’s sometimes lack specificity – they are not VERBALIZED either. He also forgets to eliminate stray VARIABLES, such as – the possibility of bad pix in this case.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha micro-flinches, but on the outside shows no reaction/disappointment. He doesn’t even comment on the pix. Just keeps talking, and in ~7 minutes gets up from the couch & leads me to the merch. table.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha decides to reinforce the fact that we are in A3-Phase by launching into a Jealousy Plotline. Now we are standing @ merchandise table again, people are passing by. I am still trying to calm down from the RUSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! With his EC & smile, ROCKSTAR-Alpha reels in a chick from the steady flow of people. They chat for ~ 2-3 min., she starts hitting on him.
NEWGIRL: “I like your bandana!”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [steps from one foot to the other]: “Well you CAN’T HAVE it!!! [shakes his head, turns away, then turns back to her] “A VERY dear friend gave it to me, I LOVE my bandana!” [Turns away from her again, glances in my direction, turns back to her. Delivers his line arrogantly, while leaning away as if she is about to attack him]
Note: NEWGIRL never ASKED him 4 his bandana. He is just DHVing to her (and to me, of course) demonstrating that girls jump on him from all directions all the time and are ready to tear his clothes off. And he has to fight them off. RIGHT. His trick works though. NEWGIRL looks impressed, but baffled by his response: she wasn’t really hitting on him THAT HARD for him to go into a defensive mode so fast. She is hooked now though. She looks at me, tries to re-start the conversation. My SSystem tells me not to engage actively this time, so I out-AFOG her PASSIVELY this time. I just keep standing right next to him quietly, not participating in the conversation, displaying “I-am-not-going-to-fight-for-him, let-him-choose-for-himself” attitude. As I do this, I glance from him to her and back while they talk, as if gauging their reactions & deciding on whether it is time for me to leave [if he chooses her, I leave. Not to FLAKE, but to test his investment levels].
She keeps asking ROCKSTAR more questions. He moves closer to me, so now we are both kind of facing NEWGIRL – he seems to be showing me LOYALTY by PROXIMITY. He is thus: a) DHVing himself by acting as a prize; b) further rewarding my compliance & demonstrating that he is interested in me, not other females [Male-to-Female Interest]. Of course, he has already invested time in gaming me, so he blows NEWGIRL off, but in a nice way. After a while, he falls silent [=Active IOD] and closes his BL to her completely [=Passive IOD]. She is still standing in the passage, people are pushing through to get past her. So she walks away. It is AMAZING to watch how ROCKSTAR-Alpha twists reality.
ANDROMEDA Lesson For Girls: Out-AFOGING does not necessarily mean an aggressive approach. You remain nice, just pull back a little. Females who are passive, are much more attractive to males for the following reason: If a girl is all over a guy, if she pushes him into KINO-escalation/sex without any real investment on his part [read: if he exerted no real effort to display attention/affection], the guy’s SSystem AUTOMATICALLY assumes the female is IN-HIS-TRIBE already. I.e. the male SSystem reads her behavior as him having ALREADY shared some survival resources with her @ some point in the past. To his SSystem, she becomes just another of the twenty females that are actively pushing themselves on his glorious Alpha-self, trying to fight tooth-and-nail for his high SV = read: love him for his resources, not for his genotype. This is an insult to his vanity. His Tribal Self wants to feel appreciated for who he is, not for what he can provide. Although his Modern-Day Self hasn’t shared any resources yet, remember: we are in Stone Age here. There is no reason to chase the female now, all he wants is to get rid of her instead or to keep her in his “F***-buddy-Zone” indefinitely. I.e. keep her coming back with the least amount of investment of attention/affection/resources on his part.
On the other hand, if a girl shows a guy SOME interest but keeps eluding him, his SSystem AUTOMATICALLY assumes she is NOT-OF-HIS-TRIBE. By the rules of genetics, she becomes attractive to him. Again, this is nothing personal. A guy is just following the genetic program instilled in him by generations of ancestors who have successfully survived, reproduced, & left him at the pinnacle of evolution. Remember, a guy’s genetic program forces him to try & disseminate his seed into as many females as possible. His SSystem rewards him every time he Full-Closes a new chick. His SSystem rewards him x10 more if he Full-Closes a new chick Not-Of-His-Tribe, because he has just increased the chances of his offspring’s survival thousand-fold. His SSystem assumes he will be mixing his genes with a person from a different “Tribe” = higher rate of genetic recombination for the offspring = higher Survival rate of the offspring. Because then, the offspring’s genotype: a) will have a lower rate of accumulation of genetic mutations; b) will, most likely, possess the combined genotype of both “tribes”. Therefore, it will be more adaptable to new & unpredictable environment than the offspring possessing the genotype of just one “tribe”.
That is also why many inter-racial kids (like my son) turn out to be so beautiful = their phenotype is displaying the High Survival Value of their genotype (the offspring is broadcasting the fact that it is in the lower range for accumulation of genetic mutations). That is also why when people mate with their close relatives (cousins), - no offense, O people of West Virginia! - there is a higher probability of unattractive/defective offspring). Their phenotype is displaying the Low Survival Value of their genotype (the offspring is broadcasting the fact that it is @ a higher range for accumulation of genetic mutations). This is why, in most cultures, mating with close relatives was frowned upon & even ostracized.
So this explains why if you keep calling a guy, he won’t return your calls – his Tribal System has just classified you as a “Female-of-his-Tribe”. This is also why if you try to control him in any way, change him, criticize him, or try to TALK to him about how he upset you, how he f***-up, etc., he will keep eluding you. On the other hand, if you act as if you Belong-to-another-Tribe = are ALWAYS HAPPY/CONTENT/JOYFUL around him, & then keep eluding him, but not so much that he can’t get you from time-to-time - his SSystem will read your behavior as follows: you do not need any Survival Resources from him = are not dependent on him for Survival = have Survival Resources other than him (your other Tribe) = are interested in him for genetic/reproductive reasons only, not just in his SV = you are a FEMALE OF ANOTHER TRIBE. This is a HUGE compliment to his SSystem. Because you just showed interest in his phenotype/genotype without trying to elicit ANY support in terms of Resources. He feels special. He feels handsome. He feels worthy. He feels wanted 4 real.
So when you are around a guy, all you have to do is act unaffected. ALWAYS be happy and content around him. You are NEVER upset with him for ANY reason. You are with him for FUN, not for his resources = you should NEVER be making ANY claims to his time/attention/affection. (read: You never drag him clothes- shopping if he don’t want to.) If he misbehaves, you simply leave the premises of his Tribe = ignore him for a while/do not return his calls. If he behaves = reward him with gratitude/affection/admiration. (Never reward or punish with access to sex. This is why: 1) because this is really unfair to the guy = he starts looking for it elsewhere; 2) because then it becomes a “treat”/”whip” that you hold over his head = this de-masculinizes him (if there’s such a word, Sp?). He is not a puppy, he’s a man. Sex should be something you both enjoy, not a weapon you use to destroy his independence & sense of self-worth).
Hence, being a FEMALE-NOT-OF-HIS-TRIBE is the ONLY way to treat a guy. All other ways – i.e. complaining, sulking, whining, bitching, acting needy, telling him what to do and what not to do, criticizing his work schedule/buddies/hobbies/pastime/drinking binges/sloppiness, trying to change him, crying, passive-aggressiveness, TALKING to him logically, TALKING at him illogically, trying to get him to “OPEN UP his Alpha-feelings”, trying to get him to “SHARE what’s going on in his Alpha-mind”, or asking him “where is this relationship headed”, leaving your toothbrush/underwear @ his house, trying to move into his house, etc. - will INEVITABLY result in you falling into the “FEMALE-OF-HIS-TRIBE-TRAP”.
Avoid this fate. This means, that you should ignore him when he hits on other girls, because you “have other guys in-your-own-Tribe to feed you” = YOU are not after his resources, those girls are! = He isn’t stupid, so OF COURSE HE WILL CHOOSE YOU – unlike those bitches, you are only after his genotype. This also means you should reward him beyond measure when he finally starts sharing his SV/Resources/Attention/Affection on his own accord, because you are grateful = he just over-performed his program. Remember, as a FOTOT you just needed his genotype, but OMG, is he sharing resources/attention/affection too? REWARD HIM! This is actually the key to keeping a guy you like in an LTR and avoiding falling into his F***-buddy zone. Act like you don’t give a s***. Guys will stick to you like flies to honey.
MM Lesson: It might seem like Alpha-males are mean bullies, who put girls down all the time. But by MM definition they are actually very pleasant. ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s actions are nothing personal towards NEWGIRL, he was just Gaming another TARGET & had to use NEWGIRL as a PAWN.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha remained nice throughout the whole evening. Especially AS MY COMPLIANCE LEVELS INCREASE in his mind (remember, in reality, they are high already), ROCKSTAR-Alpha keeps finding very kind ways to compliment me. But not on my looks/how hot he thinks I am - he never even goes near the subject.
Just some subtle stuff:
a) In A3 - Praises me on the way I carry myself “You seem so much more sophisticated than any other girl here…”, blah blah, blah… [And haha, this IS MYSTERY’s favorite line, too]
b) In A3 - Tells me I look really young 4 my age. Exaggerates, jokingly: “I thought you were, like 12 when you first came up to me!” [=NEG/DISQUALIFIER = stresses that I am gaming HIM, but is still a semi-compliment].
c) In C1 - Praises me on the way I did my makeup with silver eye-liner. “Tomorrow you GOT to do my makeup like that! I need that 4 concerts! We have one in South Carolina coming up in a couple of days...”[Pauses, implying he is waiting for me to ask whether I can come with them. I almost do. I am such a spineless git…]. This establishes the assumption that he likes me for more than just one night & wants to keep talking to me after today, that we are a “team” now. Thus, he creates a FUTURE TIMELINE together which includes me in his life.
d) In C1/C2 - compliments me on the way I drive my car – “You are such a good “drunk” driver!” [=NEG/semi-compliment].
MM Lesson: Create a FUTURE TIMELINE together. This lets a girl know you really like her and want to spend time with her.
MM Lesson: Always compliment your TARGET from a “Screening” FRAME, not a “Begging” FRAME. Communicate APROVAL, not DESIRE. Act as if you are her coach/protector figure, and are just commending her on things she is doing right in her life. Not as if she is, like, this goddess & you NEED something from her in exchange 4 your worship. Remember, you are an Alpha-male – you GIVE, GIVE, GIVE, because you have plenty of everything – women, fun, joy, happiness. You do not want anything from anyone, you are self-contained. You offer praise freely, only when it is deserved; and are not trying exchange it for her good graces.
MM Lesson: ONLY compliment your TARGET when she is in her high Compliance State. If you compliment her when she is Defying – you will program her to keep defying you. Compliment her only after you have built up enough Rapport/are moving into A3. That way, she actually feels like you have EVALUATED her during A1 & A2-Phases & found her worthy of these compliments.
General guidelines for complimenting:
A1 – ZERO compliments. You are unaffected. ZERO SOIs. NEVER in A1.
A2 – ZERO compliments. NEG/IOD her body/conduct, whatever. “You have a crusty in your eye”. ZERO SOIs.
A3 – Slight compliments as she begins winning you over. More so with passive IOIs/BL than verbally.
C1 – ZERO DIRECT compliments. Slight IOIs by noticing positive things about her. But keep talking about yourself & listening to her. This is a time to exchange info, not to interact.
C2 – Compliment her character traits, this builds connection.
C3 – ZERO DIRECT compliments. A LOT of PASSIVE IOIs, use your BL.
S1 – Here, compliment by your conduct, rather than your words. Show her you care by lighting the candles/buying flowers/pointing at the full moon, making her comfortable/etc.
S2 – Increase SOIs, you can compliment her body now. Only NOT after a FREEZE-OUT.
S3 – Whatever you feel like, this is your time! But don’t overdo it, b/c then she will think you never get laid.
Post-S3 – Compliment. Put her in 100% Comfort-zone.
I am not really making any KINO attempts, so ROCKSTAR-Alpha decides that it is time to DHV/CT some more. He briskly walks off away from the table. Steps towards the Exit - ~ 4 ft away from the table, then back towards me, then AWAY again. He is zigzagging around the room, his path in the shape of “W” letter. Instinctively, my SSystem prompts me to follow.
He makes it out as if he is looking for WHITE DRESS.
ROCKSTAR-ALPHA: “This is RIDICULOUS!!! That’s it! I can’t stand here all day!! WTF did she go???” (keeps stepping towards the Exit and back into the room, towards the table and back towards the exit, towards other tables and back to merch table) [~ 20-30 seconds]
ANDROMEDA: [ I semi-follow him for a while = pass CT. My SSystem is confused though, so I after a while I just stand there mostly, following him with my eyes] : “I can go find her for you, if you want me to!”
For me this is like, 100% COMPLIANCE = I am doing him a favor without asking for anything in return. I was genuinely going to go find WHITE DRESS and bring her back. Because now I felt secure about her not being a threat: I “won him over” from both WHITE DRESS & NEWGIRL, remember? I genuinely thought WHITEDRESS was his Manager or something of the sort. And that he didn’t like his Manager, or that there was some tension in the band. So that’s why I thought he ignored her/let her get pissy & leave. But I assumed that now he needed her back to ask her something about the merchandise.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha reads my attempt to head toward Exit as [B]DEFIANCE.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [quieter than he was talking just now, but louder than he normally talks to me]: “No, that’s okay! Don’t worry about it!” Reels me back toward the table by stepping up to me closer.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: My trail of thought above is an example of how girls OVERTHINK. We tend to OVERTHINK, because in Stone Age, we were so dependent on males for our survival. A Stone-Age male is not going to tell us everything he thinks. First of all, back then, people’s communication skills were not that developed. Secondly, why should he? He is Alpha. Thirdly, he probably isn’t even thinking. So females had to figure out ways to predict the future just based on males’ BL and examine all possible outcomes based on the limited information that their actions provided us. Therefore, when SARGING, keep in mind that TARGET’s SSystems are constantly evaluating your actions/mood/BL, because we are hardwired to make hundreds of possible future threads. That’s why girls have better intuition & guys are better at logistical stuff.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha Mis-Calibrated. My SSystem was actually fully Complying. REMEMBER, I am an LSE-TARGET, my COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD IS LOW. He has ALREADY REACHED MY COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD, but doesn’t know it. My SSystem has already classified him as Alpha from his DHVs earlier in A1. Then, in A2 he just confirmed that he is Alpha - when he stepped away from me while I was trying to touch his tattoos, did his little BHRR game/PAWNED the other girl/kept up his Body-rocking. In thousands of little ways, he kept proving to my SSystem he is Alpha. So now I am hooked 100%. I am following him like a-puppy-on-a-leash. (THANK you, KAYA, for this analogy, by the way!)
Therefore, since I am @ high CL = past the Compliance Threshold = my SSystem will NOT permit me to leave his side [unless he told me to, EXPLICITLY]. My SSystem would have severely punished me for leaving such a specimen of an Alpha-male alone – his high SV to be stolen by other females. The only way I would leave him now is if he tells me to leave (as he did back in A2). Then my SSystem, which is @ 40-50% CL, would, of course, COMPLY (because he is Alpha) & it would make me leave, so I don’t displease him by disobeying his orders = so I don’t die in the primeval desert without a male to support me.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha, on the contrary, thought I was about to walk away forever = Defy. I am an HB9, so he had no way of knowing that I am a nerdy LSE-TARGET whose COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD IS LOW & can be reached more easily & faster than that of HSE-TARGETS. This Mis-Calibration on this Alpha’s part, as you will later see, has somewhat hurt his Game & got us stuck in C1 for about ~3 hrs. Because it paved way for building NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE in my SSystem later in the evening.
Now ROCKSTAR-Alpha HAS to REEL me in, to prevent me from leaving. He comes very close to me, closer than he has been ever before.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT) [stands closer, inhales]: “Hmmmm, I like your perfume. [IOI] What is it?”
[My system rewards me for this sudden closeness]
ANDROMEDA (HOOK) happily: “Rock Princess by Vera Wa…” [I was gonna say “Vera Wang”]
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (REEL) [cuts me off, shaking his head]: “Haha, “ROCK PRINCESS”! Oh, how TYPICAL!” [NEG] [Stands a little further, leans away, arms crossed, and, while saying this, looks away at some other girl that is passing by.] (RELEASE)
Although I doubt he ever even heard of Vera Wang, LOL. But by laughing/being more animated/by his closeness, he reels me in again. His NEG makes me look at some other girl nervously, because she just got his attention, while I, apparently, did something wrong by wearing such a TYPICAL perfume. My logic tells me that this is a new perfume, just released on the market and not many women are probably wearing it. But my Tribal Survival System doesn’t care for my logic. My SSystem now needs his validation.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha launches into light chatting again, tells me about his band, what they are up to, touring, etc. his travels/partying in New Orleans, Los Angeles, Atlanta, blah, blah, blah. Topics do not matter; the main thing is that he keeps talking, but not fast. Keeps DHVing. Keeps playing Bait-Hook-Reel-Release/screening game. As he listens to my responses, he finds new ways to establish his DOMINANT FRAME.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT): “We did a lot of ‘shrooms in New Orleans, I can’t recall 2 whole days, it was so CRAZY!!! Do you like ‘shrooms?”
ANDROMEDA [I make an attempt to dominate his FRAME and instill my own SYSTEM OF VALUES/MORALS]: “No, I don’t do drugs. Never have.”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha, arms crossed. [Falls silent = Actively IODs me] [Looks away/steps away. = Passive IOD]
ANDROMEDA (I Try to BAIT him) [re-starting the conversation]: “But, oh, have you ever tried LSD?”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [steps in, but shakes head, arms crossed]: “No WAY, I do ONLY do pot & ‘shrooms! It’s all NATURAL! I ONLY stick to NATURAL stuff.” [Establishes his own “SYSTEM of VALUES/MORALS”].
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (BAIT) [uncrosses his arms [=Passive IOI]]: “So you don’t do ANY drugs @ all, huh?”
ANDROMEDA [Sticking to my FRAME/Values System]: “Nope! Never even tried any”.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (REEL) puts his index finger on his lips, as if considering me. “Oh!” Glances away [passive IOD] Then Steps AWAY [Passive IOD]: “So you are one of them “gooooooood girls”!” [NEG = Active IOD]
ANDROMEDA [Maintaining my FRAME]: I nod, proudly.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [arms crossed]: “Hm….. I like “good girls.” [=Active IOI][Steps away=Passive IOD]. (RELEASE)
Note here, he mixes active IOI with Passive IOD. So, after his pause, this makes it seem as if “good girls” are really not his main type. Thus, he just semi-DISQUALIFIED himself as a suitor. As if he is thinking whether to even consider me attractive now that he found out this new fact. This puts him in “Screening” FRAME/DLVs me.
MM Lesson: When talking to your TARGET in A2/A3-Phases of the Game, shatter her FRAME, Morals/Values System, reinforce your own. Make it out as if she is chasing you. In A2, use other girls as PAWNS to ignite TARGET’s interest. Lean back bit when you just start the conversation. That shows you are not eager, you are screening her, your Status is higher. You are figuring out whether SHE is worthy of your company. But smile & express genuine interest. Only AFTER you have shattered her Frame - proceed to A3/C1: establish Rapport, make her feel like she is winning you over.
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[C1-Phase = Isolation to C1-Location(s)/Conversational Rapport] [Duration: ~2-3 hrs.]
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: “I am tired of standing here! Let’s go outside!”
I follow him downstairs & outside. He always walks first, in a somewhat semi-circular trajectory. But glances back for me to follow, looking over at me over his shoulder. Remains a perfect gentleman throughout: puts his arms out - makes sure I don’t trip down a long flight of stairs, holds the door for me = shows protectiveness = Alpha. Does this naturally though = doesn’t stop to see my reaction nor to bask in my gratitude = doesn’t act mushy/BETA. It’s as if he is not even paying attention to it while doing it, as if it is just a part of who he is and he acts this way around anyone. [Probably does too, he is such a sweetheart!!!!]
There are, like ~10-12 BETA/AFC people standing around, just hanging back on the street or by the wall, smoking. They all stare at us, as we exit the club. He stops in the midst of them, I stop too. But then he sees guys zooming in on me & decides to lead me a little bit away from the group. I guess this is to avoid other males hitting on me + to show me he is different from BETAs. We are now standing ~ 20 ft. away from the club entrance. We are face-to-face for a little while. I am silent, just standing there, looking at him.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (claps his hands again): “Okay, this is what we are gonna do now. I need to take my biker gloves off & put them in the van. They got sweaty from playing guitar. Come on.” Starts walking off in his semi-circular way, but motions for me to follow him BEFORE he does so. His excuse sounds logical, so I follow.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: I have discovered that once you have passed the Compliance Threshold & TARGET is in COMFORT-Phase, you can begin using logic with her and she will comply. She will listen to you now, because her CL is high & she trusts you/your judgment. Alpha-Males always do this to me in C-Phase.
As we walk to his van ROCKSTAR-Alpha DHV’s about the Motorcycle Show they played @ in LA, the concert with Buckcherry they are playing in New York in a couple of weeks, talks talks talks. (NOTE: he didn’t even mention playing with Buckcherry earlier, because in Phase A1/A2 of the Game that would have sounded as if he was trying to impress me = DLV 4 him. Now though, it seems like it’s just another cool piece of information that he is sharing with me about his kickass life, because “he feels comfortable with me now” = DHV 4 him).
We walk through deserted streets of Baltimore. It’s, like, ~11pm. He helps me cross a street by offering his hand in a protective manner (Steps ahead of me, looks around at traffic. There are like 2 cars driving past. But because I pause looking warily @ the road, he pauses, too, before stepping off the curb: “Here”. Half-turns his upper body towards me, but stands with his lower body facing the road. Extends his right arm backward, towards me. This time, he glances @ his hand first, and then at me, then back at his hand). I take his hand in mine. After we cross the street, he IMMEDIATELY THROWS MY HAND AWAY – just as Mystery teaches to. I do not initiate holding hands again. Neither does he. No reaction on his part, he keeps talking, building CONNECTION through CONVERSATION.
We stand outside his band’s van & keep talking. He has successfully ISOLATED me & is trying to get me to kiss him. But doesn’t push for anything, waiting for me to initiate. I am an LSE-TARGET, my ASDefense Factor is high from the start, so I fail this CT.
When he sees I am not going to try & kiss him, he locks the van and walks me back to the bar. Doesn’t display ANY annoyance whatsoever. This lets my SSystem know that a) he never even EXPECTED anything from me during isolation in the first place, b) he is in control of his emotions = Alpha. Remains fun/polite & asks more about myself, my life, my country & listens to me. I talk about Borat & how I never watched it, because I think it’s horrible, etc. He says: “Awwwww, that movie was actually not that bad…” Everything I say, every opinion I manifest, he turns it around and offers his own opinion on the subject.
MM Lesson: Save some cool information for later – this will DHV you in TARGET’s eyes, and build more trust between you two. When you are in ATTRACTION-Phase, TRY to talk @ first about yourself, instead of asking questions about her. Too many questions put TARGET on the defensive, as if you are a Government spy trying to extricate secret information out of her. Until you have shared a LOT more info about yourself than she did, she will be on her guard. At a later point, in C1-phase, you can ask about her life.
MM Lesson: AVOID showing disappointment at all costs. If TARGET can get you upset, her Survival System will interpret this as her having control over you = YOU being WEAK = Beta/AFC. The SSystem will then proceed to turn off her lust towards you. If you continue acting Alpha, i.e. fun, but calm, polite, outcome-independent, patient, non-affected, then eventually she will have no choice but to succumb to your powers.
See Part 6.
Indestructible
05-21-2009, 05:15 PM
Part 6.
MM Lesson: According to Mystery, “THE GAME IS PLAYED IN COMFORT”. ROCKSTAR-Alpha displays his Alpha-male Characteristics by not pushing any KINO on me, by not getting upset when I fail to initiate, just by building more COMFORT & RAPPORT as we walk. ROCKSTAR-Alpha has finally achieved his goal: I FEEL TOTALLY SAFE WITH HIM.I am utterly, completely, totally in C1.
We stand outside at the other entrance to the club for ~ 5-7 min. ROCKSTAR-Alpha tells me about his family, how he has two older sisters, blah, blah, blah… [He is using Mystery’s GROUNDING technique to build Connection] Then leads me upstairs, back to the merch. table.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha is confused by my lack of KINO-escalation. He doesn’t realize I am a Shy/LSE-TARGET, because I look so good. But he doesn’t escalate himself, because he is trying to avoid programming my SSystem into learning to reject his touch. So he decides to DHV some more instead, plus to conduct another CT to gauge my investment into him. He assigns me to “guard the merchandise” & departs downstairs, demonstrating, once again, his WILLINGLESS TO WALK AWAY. This is a LOCK-IN COMPLIANCE TEST – to see if I do as was told, guard the props, stay on the spot & wait for him to come back.
~ 20 seconds after ROCKSTAR-Alpha leaves, I get bored with merchandise & begin looking around. BUT I DO NOT STEP AWAY FROM THE MERCH TABLE! MY COMPLIANCE LEVEL is @ ~50% already! I am following ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s orders to the letter.
[Why direct approach never works]
I see guys at the bar eyeing me. I turn away, and then turn back, just looking around at people. I do not smile @ anyone, because I am loyal to ROCKSTAR-Alpha now. But I guess one of the guys mistakenly takes my general looks in that direction for an IOI. He peels himself off the bar stool onto which he had been leaning. Just like the other guys, he had been standing with his arms crossed, not moving much, not talking to anyone. He then uncrosses his arms (good!) & walks straight at me (bad!). He is tall, with spiked-up black hair. Well-dressed, expensive glasses in his hands, a very bright tie, so he is Peakocking great as well. His face looks neutral; he is sporting that trendy English model/singer look. This guy’s approach is flawed, however.
a) SPIKEY did not wait for 3 IOI’s on my part. He approaches based on what he “thought” was just 1 single IOI.
b) SPIKEY approaches me head-on, looking straight at me. HIS TRAJECTORY IS A STRAIGHT LINE. Most people, esp. girls, will want to back away when someone is walking directly at them.
c) When SPIKEY gets near me, he breaks EC & briefly looks down & then up again. This alarms my Survival System, for it indicates he is looking at my body = no other women in his tribe are pushing themselves on him = he is BETA
d) While talking to me, SPIKEY never looks around to the sides, to check the environment for “predators”= Instead, he stares into my eyes 100% of the time = which shows he has Low Survival Potential = BETA.
e) He also has fallen victim to a major Faux Pas: unlike ROCKSTAR-Alpha, SPIKEY never gave me a chance to feel his High Social Value BEFORE initiating his approach. By his DIRECT approach, SPIKEY just gave his SV away to me on a silver platter, while I did nothing to “deserve”it. A general rule in life: ppl. value only what they have 2 work hard 4.
f) SPIKEY is not relaxed at all. His smile is strained. He is moving in slowly, but is making a straight line towards me, and it seems like nothing is going to stop him. I can SENSE he has an agenda.
MM Lesson: ALWAYS WAIT for at LEAST 3 IOI’s to approach.
MM Lesson: Head-on approach scares females away from you. It subconsciously communicates to their SSystems that you have aggressive intentions. Approach from the back does the same thing. DO NOT DO THIS! Do not come up from the back and tap her on the shoulder! She will flinch = you are GAMEOVER. The best approach is usually from the side, after you have DHV’d & only after 3 IOI’s or more. This way: a) you are pretty sure TARGET wants you to approach = thus you somewhat protect your Game from being “rejected” by her SSystem; b) TARGET has already seen you talking to people, so she knows you are social/friendly = her SSystem doesn’t throw her into Defense Mode; c) you and TARGET are both facing the same direction, so you two already have something in common. You are physically not a threat = are under the radar. So approach calmly from the SIDE, paying MORE attention not to her, but to something around you both – a band playing, groceries in the store if you are DAY-gaming, the store clerk, whatever.
Lesson: Do not check out your TARGET’s body in A1! EVERRRRR!!!! In A2 - ignore it completely, unless you are IODing or NEGGING her – then you can pay a little NEGATIVE attention to her looks. In COMFORT Phase, you may compliment her, but only on her conduct, general personality traits. Save your SOIs and compliments to her looks for the S-Phase!
Lesson: When you have just approached a TARGET, always act as if you have something else going on, something better than talking to her. SPIKEY didn’t! I was the most important project in his world for that particular second, and that’s a LOT of social pressure on your TARGET = she will want to run.
MM Lesson: Mystery advocates INDIRECT APPROACH. This is why: A random girl doesn’t know how high/low you are on the Tribal Totem Pole if you failed 2 DHV beforehand around the venue, i.e. if you just stood/sat at the bar. Therefore, since you came up to her first, her SSystem will NOT be receptive 2 your approach. SSystem will AUTOMATICALLY classify you as Low Survival Value/BETA. For it will decide that you are low on women = low on resources/food = will want her to share her resources/food, or just plain have aggressive intentions to take her without sharing your resources/food first. So SHOW your TARGET’s SSystem that you are Alpha: Establish your value before the approach. Let her come to you or get her to IOI you by PROXIMITY. Of course, there are thousands of specific ways to approach, so these are just basic guidelines.
Do not let your poor EC Calibration, incongruent BL or failure to DHV beforehand ruin your Game. Observe how Alphas open sets, how they move. They don’t seem 2 need anything from anyone. They GIVE, GIVE, GIVE – not money, but THEIR ATTENTION & TIME & FUN & GOOD ENERGY.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: SENSING a guy has an agenda is different from KNOWING a guy has an agenda. You see, I KNEW with logical components of my brain that my ROCKSTAR-Alpha had a plan regarding me, and WAS gaming me hard-core. But @ that point I am so attracted to him by his Solid Game rollercoaster that I just DON’T CARE anymore. If your Game is tight, then even if a girl knows you are running it on her, she WILL NOT CARE. Even if your TARGET had heard about the Mystery Method or sees through what you are doing, her emotional circuitry will overrule it. Her Survival System will override all logic.
But when TARGET’s System can SENSE you have an agenda – i.e. if you failed to turn off her emotional Defense Mechanisms – that’s 2 bad 4 you = GAMEOVER. You have just communicated that YOU WANT SOMETHING FROM HER = YOU ARE LOW VALUE = DANGER 2 her SURVIVAL. Her System decides that you are not adding ANY value to her Social Status by your approach, therefore you must be ASKING for Value/Resources. So her emotional circuitry rejects your approach as that of a Weak Beta-Male of the Tribe. INDIRECT APPROACH will help you avoid this trap.
Even though SPIKEY’S intentions towards me are probably very benign (more benign than those of ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s), I back away instinctively. I have no choice but to answer his boring “So how are you today?” though. Because to leave would be kind of rude. Guys, don’t make this mistake! Remember, you do not want a girl to talk to you because she HAS to; you want her to talk to you because she saw how cool you are beforehand & now she cannot resist your charm. JUST BECAUSE A TARGET KEEPS TALKING TO YOU AND DOES NOT WALK AWAY, DOES NOT MEAN SHE WANTS YOU TO STAY! Maybe she liked you from afar & you just ruined your Game by your clumsy Approach method.
MM Lesson: A simple way to find out if she likes you in A1-Phase: count the number of IOI’s she gives you. 3 or more, and you are in!
Some TARGETS are rude; they will just tell you to f*** off if they don’t like you. Most girls will continue being nice though. Like, in my case, a) I can’t just tell people to go away, I am shy/LSE-TARGET; b) I can’t leave the table because my ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s merchandise is on it, and he TOLD me to stand there. MY COMPLIANCE LEVEL with ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s WISHES IS ALREADY THROUGH THE ROOF: I do not leave, even when faced with the discomfort of another male’s clumsy approach. c) Another guy trying to “open” me kinda adds 2 my perceived Social Value that has been so lowered by ROCKSTAR-Alpha; d) I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to see how ROCKSTAR-Alpha will handle this & deal with an AMOG-wannabe.
So I stay & endure SPIKEY’s conversation attempts.
~ 4-5 min ROCKSTAR-Alpha returns & sees me talking to SPIKEY. ROCKSTAR-Alpha gets pissed (micro-flinches again), but never shows it overtly. Instead, he proceeds to do his Alpha thing and out-AMOGs the newcomer. AGAIN, he does this POLITELY. ROCKSTAR-Alpha is rude to no one, not ever. ALPHA-MALES ARE ALWAYS WELL-MANNERED.
[How to out-AMOG Passively without Aggressive DHVing]
An AFC/BETA would have made the mistake of trying to get ME away from the OBSTACLE. Or would have begun QUALIFYING himself to me, trying to show me logically that he is “better”. Or would have tried to get me 2 pay attention to him in other ways. Or worse, would have sulked off, hoping I would see he is mad & follow him to appease him. Or even worse, would have tried to engage the other guy in an argument/confrontation/fight 2 scare him away. That would have a) skyrocketed my value, put me on a pedestal = put them both @ major disadvantage in terms of the Game. Because then I would have been in the position to pick and choose; b) showed my SSystem he is a weak & aggressive (or weak & passive-aggressive) BETA, sent signals of DANGER to my brain & prompted me to get out of there.
On the contrary, ROCKSTAR-Alpha does the following: instead of pulling me aside, or trying to get MY attention or compete with the other male, he completely IGNORES the fact that there seems to be ANY kind of special interaction going on between SPIKEY and me. He goes ahead & “opens” the guy directly. ROCKSTAR-Alpha stands side-ways, his feet pointing towards the table more so than towards the guy. His face and solar plexus are turned towards SPIKEY though. This approach allows him NOT to provoke any direct aggression in the OBSTACLE’S sub-consciousness (SPIKEY is taller). If it really came to it, he probably could have taken SPIKEY on, but time is running short & ROCKSTAR-Alpha has to get rid of the guy ASAP. Gaming me is proving hard already, he doesn’t want to deal with any extra BS. So he just starts talking to Spikey & seems friendly, but FIRM. As if asking: “And how can I help YOU?” thereby establishing that this is HIS TERRITORY.
As far as his TARGET goes, ROCKSTAR-Alpha simply puts me into an 80%-IGNORE ZONE, i.e. looks at me only 20% percent of the time, but mostly ignores me & talks to the OBSTACLE. As if I am not really the object of their desire & competition, as if I am there just as a side-effect of his awe-inspiring Alpha-life. Not in a mean way, but AS IF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT I AM “HIS” FEMALE. Winning me over DOESN’T MATTER ANYMORE, because, really, he is just here to PROTECT my well-being from any new-comers/BETAS.
I begin to feel guilty 4 talking to someone else, because in my SSystem, I have already built up a high CL towards ROCKSTAR-Alpha & it is punishing me for disloyalty, so I don’t end up “dying”. Therefore, I let ~ 1-2 min. pass, then I shut up, kind of move away from Spikey & walk to the area behind my Alpha’s back @ the other side of the table. Thus, my SSystem demonstrates high CL %-age & Loyalty: 1) I eject myself out of the conversation; 2) leave the newcomer alone; 3) I move myself “under the protection of the Alpha-Male of the Group” (AMOG).
They talk for ~1 more minute, I think ROCKSTAR-Alpha even sells him some merchandise, not sure though. SPIKEY leaves. I wish I could give SPIKEY who just got out-AMOGED these pointers so he would modify his approach next time.
MM Lesson: Lead the men, girls will follow.
MM Lesson: Out-AMOGing doesn’t necessarily mean aggression. It may be done passively, like in case with SPIKEY. Out-AMOGING in A-Phase is different from out-AMOGING in C-Phase. In A-Phase you can DHV & NEG the OBSTACLE, while if your TARGET is in C-Phase already, you should act non-affected towards OBSTACLE and put her in 80%-IGNORE-ZONE.
MM Lesson: (as far as SPIKEY’S approach goes) REMEMBER: According to Mystery, “There is no such thing as rejection, only feedback. It’s almost NEVER you. It’s almost NEVER the girl. It’s almost ALWAYS your approach technique & gaming method. If something doesn’t work, you just got to modify them.” My SSystem’s rejection of SPIKEY’s approach does not = my rejection of Spikey himself, just a rejection of his approach technique. So, when you are in the FIELD, do not take anything personally. Mastery is achieved through persistence. Just modify your approach & run it 20 times on 20 different TARGETS.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha uses the Leader-of-Men/Withdrawal-of-Attention technique at various times throughout the night. This technique by itself is fine in C1, when used properly, when the Gaming sequence is going smoothly, and targets are HSE-TARGETS. However, again we hit the “Glitch” in his Game. ROCKSTAR-Alpha correctly puts me into “80% IGNORE” zone, because we are in C1. However, he doesn’t take me out of this Zone after Spikey leaves & thus begins punishing my good behavior & build NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE in my SSystem. This is why: He presented my SSystem with a COMPLIANCE TEST “Stay here, guard the merchandize”. My SSystem reads my subsequent actions like I passed the CT 120%: 1) I stayed loyally & did not walk away; 2) I guarded the merch. table; 3) did so DESPITE being approached by an uncomfortable stranger; 4) further demonstrated my loyalty to ROCKSTAR-Alpha by feeling guilt, ejecting out of the SET and moving behind his back for “protection”, leaving the newcomer to be out-AMOGED.
My SSystem is confused, for the COMPLIANCE TEST never stated: “DO NOT TALK TO OTHER GUYS”. The Test was SPECIFIC: “Stay & Guard”. Instead of rewarding me for passing his COMPLIANCE TEST + for the 4 extra indicators of my Rapport-Seeking behavior, ROCKSTAR-Alpha makes the mistake of assuming that my SSystem failed his test just because he sees me talking to another guy & gets annoyed. ROCKSTAR-Alpha Mis-Calibrates, failing to realize that the NEW VARIABLE (new guy) was not the test itself. He does not know how uncomfortable I was feeling being approached by SPIKEY. ROCKSTAR-Alpha proceeds to ignore me, thus “punishing” my SYSTEM for GOOD BEHAVIOR.
My SSytem decides: “Oh, s***, it looks like this Alpha-male with High SV is leaving me! I need to find out if he is leaving 4 real. To gauge his interest in me, I will try to push him away. If he returns, he is staying”.
ANDROMEDA’s Lesson: IN NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE MODE, Compliance %age jumps up and down. It can be in the NEGATIVE RANGE one minute, and back above zero, depending on the Alpha-male’s behavior towards the TARGET.
MM Lesson: Reward all good behavior. Punish all bad behavior. Be consistent. This makes your TARGET’s SSystem feel safe. This also lets you avoid building NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE & prevents you from hitting “Glitches” in your Game.
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After fully out-AMOGING the “OBSTACLE”, ROCKSTAR-Alpha leads me downstairs, to finally meet his friends.
MM Lesson: IMPORTANT: ROCKSTAR-Alpha keeps changing our location, moving me around the venue. This strategy does 2 things:
a) Makes TARGET experience more fun/excitement with the Alpha-male. This way, her eyes are seeing new scenery; you are flooding her conscious mind with talk, talk, talk and her emotional circuitry - with NEGS/BHRR/IOIs/IODs/slight SOIs. She hears new sounds from new environment; her senses are tingling from your playful KINO, etc. AFC’s just stand at the bar, lean in & try to Number-Close the TARGET right there. AVOID DOING THIS. A girl is not a guy, who works off logic. We are bored. We need entertainment. Excitement! Danger! Emotions! DRAMA! DRAMA! DRAMA! Give it to her! SHE WILL BEGIN CRAVING YOU!
b) Moving from place to place also creates the illusion that your TARGET has known you for longer than she actually has. This helps her feel SAFER around you.
Downstairs, ROCKSTAR-Alpha introduces me to his friend (Let’s call him MACHIAVELLI). Notice that ROCKSTAR-Alpha always picks his locations AMAZINGLY, or, rather, turns any location to his advantage. Again, this guy is a TOP-FLIGHT MASTER PICKUP ARTIST, if not a “Natural-Born-Alpha”. He should be paid to teach this art. It’s a pleasure just to watch this guy work the Game.
However, no one is 100%-proofed against Mis-Calibrations. ROCKSTAR-Alpha continues 2 erroneously build NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE by putting me into 80% “IGNORE”-zone, NEGGING, confusing my SSystem & causing it to retaliate in feeble attempts to regain SV.
A) ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s sits himself, so that he is facing in the direction parallel to the bar, perpendicular to where I am facing. His friend does the same, so they both are sitting facing each other, not me. I am left standing with my back to the pool hall & looking @ them and the bar. I am at a disadvantage. MM Lesson: always choose a place of Higher Value – stand with your back to the wall/pillar, sit in a chair, leave your TARGET standing, etc. The girl must seem to be Gaming YOU, not vice-versa.
B) Although there is a chair nearby, no one offers it to me yet. MACHIAVELLI is probably just oblivious of this fact, while ROCKSTAR-Alpha, of course, notices every detail. This isn’t overtly impolite though. It just looks like they “forgot” to offer me a seat because they are so engaged in conversation with each other/moi. But it is yet another thing that puts them at Higher Value.
C) MACHIAVELLI’s BL is more open towards me than the Alpha’s is. At one point, ROCKSTAR-Alpha actually turns away even more towards the bar, almost showing me his back. The guys who are still shooting pool watch us, incredulous. WARNING: When you are doing a BL-Shut-Off on a girl, you need to CALIBRATE carefully, so as not to shut her out completely, she might leave (like WHITE DRESS & NEWGIRL did). However, make sure your BL is intermittently more closed off than that of other guys in the group. Your TARGET will naturally want you more.
MACHIAVELLI has long, wavy brown hair falling in soft curls down past his shoulders. He is “PEACOCKED” properly with chains, a cowboy hat/fedora/whatever rockers wear those days. He seems calm, content, happy & benign. His features are Venetian; he looks like he had just stepped out of a Michelangelo frescoe. He is an astonishingly talented musician. He is much less “strung-out” than my ROCKSTAR-Alpha, for sure. He actually seems like a really smart and a VERY nice guy. He is immediately classified into my “Won’t-f***-you-over” category. But I do not feel attracted to MACHIAVELLI. Because I feel like I can “break” him. In fact, I feel like I already have. This is why:
I decide to keep quiet & watch what they pull next. We are talking. ~ 5 minutes into conversation MACHIAVELLI immediately DLV’s himself: compliments me on my body.
MACHIAVELLI: “OMG, and you have a baby? And with THAT body?”
[I guess it’s kinda supposed to be a NEG, but I turn it around as if it’s a compliment]
ANDROMEDA [I laugh, happily]: “I KNOW! Right?” [I stand up straight, walk around a bit, showing myself off to them.]
MACHIAVELLI watches me, fascinated. ROCKSTAR-Alpha is affected, of course, but is trying not to show it. He watches me - not with fascination, but with a slight trace of disdain on his face.
MM Lesson: in A1-phase NEVER EVER COMPLIMENT A GIRL ON HER BODY! [We are in A1 with MACHIAVELLI – we just met]
MM Lesson: Advice from Mystery: If you are going to become a PUA, strive to learn DISCRETION. Women will avoid you if you are a gossiper. This triggers their ASDefense Mechanism, for females strive to avoid social consequences of sex at all costs. That is why they are more easily lured into flings while on vacation = they are taken out of their Tribe/Social Circle = all social pressure has been alleviated. If you can screw them and avoid bragging about your conquests, girls will trust you more, because it shows you care about their reputations. The fact that MACHIAVELLI knows information I never shared with him, shows me ROCKSTAR-Alpha is indiscreet = sex with him will have social consequences = I will be discussed = my ASDefense Mechanism activates. So, I guess I won’t be sending ROCKSTAR-Alpha my naked pix anytime soon, lest they end up in his friends’ porn stash *WEG*. Mystery insists upon being discrete = this, he says, is his secret to being able to maintain MLTRs [relationships with several women at once]. So, Lesson: Keep your Gaming top-notch & your mouth shut.
MM Lesson: Even though my Modern-day Self could not care less if ROCKSTAR-Alpha gossips or not - my Tribal SSystem disagrees. It insists that I am in danger of dying, because then I will be ostracized by the whole Tribe & left to die in the desert for promiscuity [read: attempt to lower the entire Tribe’s Survival Value by courting a Male-Not-of-My-Tribe]. My SSystem proceeds to punish me with guilt/ASDefense Mechanism Activation. This is because, back in Stone Age, a tribe was a small, closed-off system, like an ant farm. There were, like, 100-150 people @ the most, with 1 leader-Alpha & the rest – vying for his good graces. Everyone was watching everyone else/gauging others’ reactions/scheming/predicting consequences. Women were especially prone to this, because they were weak/dependent. Deviant behavior often times entailed the demise of the entire Tribe, and therefore had to be punished severely.
In Modern day, we have billions of people, everyone is busy, yet we still are swallowing tabloids, scandals, news stories like we can’t live without them. Why? Our Tribal emotional circuitry feeds off that s*** = Being updated on the latest news makes our SSystems feel like we are surviving actively within the Tribe. SSystem reward us with pleasure chemicals. To our SSystems watching the successes & downfalls of Leaders & their females, watching catastrophes/action movies/soap operas equals moving up in the hierarchy = increasing Survival Value = SSystems reward our brain with chemicals every time Angie breaks up with Brad. That’s why last year I 100% stopped watching TV & news. And yes, I am still alive. :P
ANDROMEDA Lesson: Incongruence of Modern-Day conditions with the Stone Age-lifestyle is also responsible for Depression, Anxiety, Obesity, Alcoholism & other illnesses that afflict modern-day men & women. We are genetically programmed for active existence in a natural setting, fights, semi-spontaneous copulation, and, later - for living in a close-knit social circle with a strict hierarchy.
Alcoholism arises in people out of inability to display their aggression & libido appropriately. Today, we are forced to stuff our feelings inside & are not allowed to fight or otherwise display even slight signs of physical aggression/sexual drive. HR people see to that in the workplace, police - on the streets. Instead of joining a gym & learning the Mystery Method, many people revert to liquor & let their aggression/libido roam free under the excuse of inebriation. That’s why drinking & watching sports is men’s favorite pastime today – they can’t go out on the field themselves, so they just sit back & release aggression by drinking. MM method will at least help you to get rid of alcoholism due to allowing you to express your libido in better ways than masturbation. [Yeah, im ignorant, but @ least im honest. F*** off, if you don’t like it]. Also, running 2 miles a day helps.
Obesity arises because our bodies were designed for fighting & surviving in a prairie/jungle, not sitting @ computer desks all day long. So we tend to accumulate nutrients, because in Tribal times our bodies had to hoard whatever calories they could get – to survive.
Social Anxiety arises because our SSystem assumes we are still living in a Tribal hierarchy & are being watched & judged on all of our social mistakes. Back in Stone Age making a social mistake equaled Lowering your position within the hierarchy = DLVing = smaller allocation of resources/food = lower survival value = eventually dying. In order to help us avoid dying, SSystems punish us for making social mistakes by releasing certain chemicals into certain circuits of our brain. Nothing personal = we survived that way for centuries. But we get AA, ASDefense, LMR, which, all are really just psychological leftovers of the Stone Age.
Depression occurs in Modern conditions, because in Tribal times, everyone within a tribe cared for everyone else = it was a matter of collective survival. Today, people appear in and disappear out of our lives all the time for various reasons such as career changes, re-location, etc. We do not work/live with the people we grew up with. We are taken out of a strict hierarchy = we lost our Tribe. Our SSystems punish us with bad chemicals every time this happens, because it assumes we did something wrong. Our SSystems are not aware of the fact that there are billions of people on the planet now, and none of them really care for you or even watch you for social mistakes. So a lot of men & women feel lost because their SSystems do not feel the security of knowing where exactly within the Tribal hierarchy they belong, and that their Tribe cares for them - as a matter of fact, their SSystems are not even sure they have a Tribe. Families are too small of a group to represent a Tribe – for this you need ~200 people. So they try to join clubs, get hobbies, progress in the workplace [= workaholics/career fiends] and sometimes that seems to help. Because once you got a career, you can put a name-tag on yourself – a tag, on which your place within the human hierarchy is stated in black-and-white: e.g. “Lawyer”. But this doesn’t help, not really, because you still don’t really have a Tribe in the primeval sense of the word. That is also why a lot of people feel strongly about their High School days – they hate or miss them. Or feel an emotional loss after they are done with College - it was their “Tribe”. Myspace, Facebook & other social utility tools are so addictive for a reason: they give us the illusion that we have finally found our Tribe.
Today, all these emotional responses are atavistic. People need to lay off Prozac & start dealing with SSystems in other ways – introspection & right action & prayer & Mystery Method.
The only atavism I am unwilling to let go of is Alpha-Males!!!!! They will remain my addiction 4 ever!!!! *Sigh* So, ROCKSTAR-Alpha seems closed off, is “punishing” me for talking to SPIKEY. This drops my already low Compliance Level down to -10%. SSystem prompts me to retaliate, for it feels threatened. It wants me to test/push him further 2 see how much SV I am losing & to gauge his investment in me. I turn ~ 30 degrees away from ROCKSTAR-Alpha and continue talking 2 MACHIAVELLI. Me paying more attention to MACHIAVELLI is NOT an IOI towards MACHIAVELLI. AFC’s would regard this as such, but I am just trying to make my ROCKSTAR-Alpha react & begin vying for my attention.
See Part 7.
Indestructible
05-21-2009, 05:49 PM
Part 7.
MM-Lesson: When Gaming LSE-Targets, avoid building NC. TO overcome Negative Compliance, move in the opposite direction: If you have accidentally built it up by punishing good behavior, then proceed to rewarding. If you have built it up by failing to punish bad behavior, proceed to NEGS/ignoring/DLV.
MM Lesson: As a rule, when you are Gaming and your TARGET seems to be HSE, and you seem to be doing everything right (unlike ROCKSTAR-Alpha in this case) and are trying to 2 move her further into COMFORT STAGE for a Number-Close or a Kiss-Close, but the TARGET STILL keeps pushing you/testing you, this means her SSystem does not feel safe with you yet. You are NOT in COMFORT-Phase @ all!!! You need to backtrack to A1/A2 and DHV/BHRR some more to convince her SSystem you are a “safe” Alpha, not a “dying” Beta. The general rule is: If something does not work, just backtrack to previous stage, then “rinse & repeat”. [For more details, see Electrical Circuit analogy later in Report]
So ROCKSTAR-Alpha backtracks to A2-Phase & proceeds to DHV himself/DLV me through NEGS. He accurately (but incorrectly) follows the “rinse & repeat” advice above, instead of launching into C2. This turns out to be ineffective, because he still doesn’t realize his NC-Mis-Calibration.
First, he keeps quiet & waits for me to say something kind of dumb. Then he falls silent & waits for me to realize that what I said was really dumb. He turns towards MACHIAVELLI with a look on his face that reads “I Told YOU so! This chick is really dumb!” [=Passive NEG/IOD] But he never actually comes out & says it.
Now don’t take me wrong, ROCKSTAR-Alpha probably never even SAYS anything of the sort to ANYONE, because, deep down inside, he is such a warm & sunny sweetheart. And in general, he is always pleasant towards all people. But, remember, he is Gaming me right now. So by a turn of his head & a raised eyebrow, an illusion for my benefit is successfully created = my social value plummets (at least in my mind).
ROCKSTAR-Alpha finally offers me the third chair. This is NOT a bestowal of Connection/Comfort that my SSystem so craves. This is a COMPLIANCE TEST. Like, if he smiled more warmly and launched into Conversation-phase, became more playful/told a funny story/GROUNDED/DEMO VULNERABILITY/whatever, we would have probably started KINO & transitioned into C2 without “Glitches”. Instead, he stretches his hand out over the back of the empty chair & states in a somewhat condescending tone: “Why are you standing? Why don’t you come & sit down? Come on!” Half-smiling, he pats his palm on the seat of the chair twice. [=CT]
MM Lesson: Alpha-males never ask a TARGET what she would like to do. That would be AFC-behavior. She might hesitate to decide and then blame him for being no fun. Or worse, make a decision detrimental to his Game & then FLAKE. Alphas tell her, “Why don’t you … come here”, “Why don’t you …sit down”, etc. & in a friendly way. It always sounds like a sensible suggestion, rather than an order. This is how Alphas gauge your CL and CALIBRATE their Gaming strategy. So act as if you are TARGET’s mentor, older friend, and are doing everything in her best interests, to take care of her, to protect her. Do not act as her master or try to control her.
NOTE: In A-Phase and C-Phase, ROCKSTAR-Alpha always starts his requests with “Why don’t you…” & then waits for Compliance. When we get to S-Phase, he just tells me what to do, with conviction, without asking. Ex: “Take your shirt off.” Then waits for Compliance.
ACCORDING TO MYSTERY, NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE TENDS TO BUILD UPON ITSELF - IF LEFT UNCHECKED. ROCKSTAR-Alpha should have built Connection here with friendly conversation/laughter, rewarded my SSystem for complying.
My SSystem’s CL drops to -20%, I refuse the chair, tell them I am going to get myself some water, and walk off to the other side of the bar. ROCKSTAR-Alpha immediately “punishes” my SSystem MORE for what he considers a genuine “walk-away”.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: [slaps his hand on the bar loudly and yells out for everyone to hear]: “She is drinking WATER!!! Hahaha!!! How HARD-CORE Rock-and-Roll is that?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” [while saying this, he gets up a little on his chair, too]
This is a NEG for failing his CT, leaving them and refusing to accept the chair he offered. He, thus:
a) is making his NEG more effective by delivering it in front of a larger audience - he decides just him and MACHIAVELLI are not enough of socially-sound spectators to “embarrass” me: had already tried that – NEGGED me in front of MACHIAVELLI, and that has proven ineffective – I walked off. There are no girls (Social Validators 4 me) in his little circle right now. But there ARE girls in the pool-hall and further towards the bar. The bartender is a chick. So his NEG should be more effective once he involves them;
b) is establishing his DOMINANCE over the room, as he is not afraid to raise his voice/cause commotion = this confirms to everyone this is HIS TERRITORY= he is Alpha;
c) is DLVing me - I look like a prude drinking water, because it’s late and everyone seems to be drinking alcohol;
d) is thus challenging me to prove to him I am more of a “bad girl” – leaves me a way to behave in accordance with his wishes.
MM Lesson: ALPHA-MALES NEVER REPEAT THEIR REQUESTS. That would be “begging”. Instead, if TARGET doesn’t comply, they immediately “punish” her by withdrawing attention: in A2/A3 – ACTIVELY, i.e. NEGGING her in front of an audience; in C1, C2, C2 etc. – PASSIVELY - by simply leaving the location/ignoring her/passive IODs/Closed BL.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: In a social situation when both guys & girls are present, girls care more about what other girls think, not so much about what the guys think. So find an audience, any audience. If it consists of only guys, that’s okay, proceed anyway. If there are also girls present – even better. They are Social Validators for your TARGET. Then NEG or reward your TARGET, depending on your progress in the Gaming sequence. This will be much more effective than if you NEG/reward her when you two are alone. Girls are social animals. Social pressures control us.
To an outsider it would seem as if they are treating me like s***, but in reality they are DHV’ing themselves massively & taking me onboard with them! I am LOVING every second of it! Because guess what? ROCKSTAR-Alpha just proved to everyone THIS IS HIS TERRITORY. Now I have a chance to be seen with the Alpha-male of the Tribe in public!!! So be the Alpha-male, control the TERRITORY. When you are trying to move past initial ATTRACTION STAGE and into COMFORT, this is highly effective. TARGET is more and more convinced that you are High Value. You continue to NEG her when she is bad and reward her with attention/affection when she is good. She begins to feels safe, because your responses are now actually predictable to her Survival System. And she adores being near you, because now she is positive you are the Leader of the Tribe!
MM Lesson: When you hit COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD this means that TARGET’s SSystem decides that you are “safe” and are “not going to die” anytime soon, & therefore, complying is not that bad after all: she can enjoy the benefits of “good conduct”– your attention, your Social Value, your laughter – because, remember, you are THE coolest guy there. At this point, you are 100% Alpha to her (before, in A2/A3 she wasn’t sure). TO HER SYSTEM, ALL OTHER GUYS DISAPPEAR. This is the point where you can begin escalating into COMFORT to then slowly begin moving her into the STAGE of SEDUCTION.
The scheme I outlined above is how things are supposed to proceed normally. However, because ROCKSTAR-Alpha had built up so much NC, and now it’s increased tenfold due to his Public NEG, my SSystem feels even more insecure, its CL falls to -25%. My SSystem prompts me to undertake aggressive attempts to regain some of the SV lost & encourages me to test to what extent this Alpha is invested into me.
So I eject out of this C1-location; but tell them I will be right back. I put the unfinished water glass on the bar top between them, “LOCKING THEM IN” with my prop. I walk away with the full intention to return = I am not DEFYING. I proceed towards the bathroom, assuming they will guard the space & wait for me (not like puppies-on-a-leash anymore, but rather as friends/equals). Because my SSystem is in C1 and not in A2/A3, it assumes ROCKSTAR-Alpha is also in Comfort already. It expects him to show MUTUAL COMPLIANCE. Nope! He is in A2: when I come back, my water glass is standing lonely on the counter & both of them guys have vaporized. I guess ROCKSTAR-Alpha is teaching the MACHIAVELLI how to WING him.
This really puzzles my SSystem. Had I been in A2/A3 at this point, I would have turned around and found other guys to flirt with. The dudes who are shooting pool perk up, lift their heads & look in my direction tentatively. I could have stayed & let them hit on me, but I am already hooked on ROCKSTAR-Alpha & his energy & laughter & warmth. All guys except for ROCKSTAR-Alpha have already DISAPPEARED from my field of vision = I am in C1.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: So, I guess, if your LSE-TARGET is in NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE MODE, this does not mean she will FLAKE/leave you even when “punished” too severely. She would if she was in A2. NC-Mode is a compliment: it just makes TARGET want to test you - you and you only, not the other guys - in order to determine YOUR level of investment into her. She is hooked on you, but seems to be Defying. Normally, in A2 you would dissipate Defiance by DLVing her/DHVing yourself. BUT when you get NC, and not DEFIANCE, so you should try going into CONNECTION instead, to assure her SSystem you are invested.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: DEFIANCE is the opposite of COMPLIANCE. It is general, drastic Incompliance with your entire Gaming strategy [e.g. she FLAKES]. NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE is NOT the opposite of COMPLIANCE. It is still Compliance, but @ such a low %-age that it falls into the NEGATIVE RANGE. So the TARGET’s actions SEEM incongruent with your entire Gaming Strategy = e.g. she keeps flirting with you/keeps in contact, but doesn’t seem to be able to move to the next Phase. You are STUCK. The difference is in the intention/reasons behind them. The results seems to be somewhat similar, but are not.
1) How to tell if TARGET is in DEFIANCE-Mode? She takes herself out of the Game completely, she is OUT = ex. goes to your friend/goes to bathroom or another side of venue & never comes back/goes home/starts avoiding you/never contacts you again/or puts you into her LJBF-zone.
2) How to tell if TARGET fell into NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE-Mode? There will be certain passive indicators of NC such as TARGET showing you LOYALTY [coming back to your side after dancing or after a bathroom/smoking break], PROXIMITY [does not really leave your side for that long], displays COMPLIANCE to your VERBAL COMMANDS (not to your mere Suggestions, so be careful not to confuse the two). She neither leaves the venue nor goes home/ she is willing to invest into herself even when you refuse to invest into her (ex. buys herself a drink & comes back to your side or gets other guys to buy her a drink & comes back to your side)/ she never ACTIVELY flirts with other guys.
The ways to deal with DEFIANCE & NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE are different. 1) To dissipate DEFIANCE, backtrack to the point in the Gaming Sequence where things went WRONG, & begin putting TARGET through the circuit all over again (ex. backtrack to A1 & start DHVing again). 2) To dissipate NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE, backtrack to the point in the Gaming Sequence where things went RIGHT & just change the strategy you previously erroneously employed @ that point = begin acting consistently = punish bad behavior/reward good behavior (ex. backtrack to the point in time where you accidentally punished good behavior & reward her. Or backtrack to the point in time where you accidentally rewarded bad behavior & proceed to punishment). [For more details, see Electrical Circuit analogy below]
I go outside & find MACHIAVELLI talking to his DRUMMER and another guy with a MOHAWK. We chat for ~ 7 minutes. Then MACHIAVELLI says: “You are looking for ROCKSTAR-Alpha, aren’t you?” (A faithful WING! If he is Gaming that is.) MACHIAVELLI and DRUMMER tell me I can stay there with them, or I can go find ROCKSTAR-Alpha. It’s up to me. Thus, they are deliberately limiting my choices, leaving me only the 2 options, erasing from my mind the possibility that I can just walk off and talk to other random guys. I say I will go find ROCKSTAR-Alpha. MACHIAVELLI communicates approval by a half-smile & a slight nod.
I go upstairs; stand in the middle of the “Mosh-pit” area, and watch the band play. MACHIAVELLI follows me, finds out where I am standing, asks innocently: “Where is he?” I shrug, I don’t know. Then he leaves. I guess @ first, they were expecting me to go find ROCKSTAR-Alpha in another place (DJ-Booth?), but since I wasn’t moving, they had to make me want come & find him. Because, remember, ROCKSTAR-Alpha is in A2 right now, and in that stage, he always lets TARGETS come to him, not vice-versa. I conclude this all, because, while I am standing there, MACHIAVELLI approaches & leaves twice, trying to prompt me to go find ROCKSTAR-Alpha. But my SSystem is in NC-MODE, Compliance is @ -25% right now. So I am not moving from this spot, making it clear that if this Alpha-male is invested, he will come & get me. They figure that me moving upstairs was enough Compliance for now, or something of the sort. ROCKSTAR-Alpha decides to “find” me instead. In ~ 10 min, he materializes at my side, with a beer in his hand. If he hadn’t, I would have eventually gone & found him myself, because remember, I am in NC-mode [read: on a leash]. Had I been in DEFIANCE-mode, I would have flirted with other guys.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha always uses Side Approach, even though we are already acquainted. So he comes into my field of vision, but is not seeking closeness; he is standing one step away from me. He remains un-reactive, for a while, watching the band. Although I am in NC-Mode, I now feel comfortable enough for KINO. At this point, had I been in A2, I would have turned away & made EC with other guys/flirted with them to create a JEALOUSY PLOTLINE. But I am in C1, and that would feel like a betrayal of trust. To my SSystem, this situation looks like this: “My NC dissipates, because just by coming into the room & into my field of vision, this Alpha demonstrated his (albeit reluctant) willingness to share his high SV with me = My SSystem received some COMFORT.” Now I am standing in front of him and lean back into him slightly. He reciprocates my KINO attempt = hugs me from behind. We stand like that for about 10 minutes, his hand playing with my waist. This dissipates my NC further, but not enough to be moving into C2.
This is where ROCKSTAR-Alpha MISCALIBRATES AGAIN. When I move in closer, he realizes I am in C1. So, in his mind, it’s automatically been straight ~2 hours of solid Comfort-building, and now he gauges my CL is @ ~30-40%. In reality, my CL is @ ~ -5-10%, because it has been up and down so much over the course of the past hour in NC-Mode; it has even fallen into a low-minus zone just minutes ago, before he came upstairs.
I turn to him, hug him by the waist. I even lean my head on his chest, I think.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [smells my hair]: “Mmmmmm… you smell good…”
ANDROMEDA [*thinking to herself* Damn Right! I’m wearing Rock Princess by Vera Wa.... LOL]. I turn around & we keep watching the band for a while, he stands still, hugging me from behind.
In ~ 3 more min ROCKSTAR-Alpha moves in to kiss me. He does the 90%-10% Distance thing from HITCH, and leans in closely from behind. There’s like 2 inches’ distance between our lips; he is waiting for me to kiss him. My SSystem doesn’t let me kiss him back! My CL is @ ~ -5-10% only (instead of the required ~30-40% for a K-Close). Secondly, I don’t think there was a Verbal Command. He never says: “Give me a kiss”. Otherwise, my SSystem would have no choice but to obey. I smile & freeze & refuse to go the 10%-Distance. Alpha gasps: “You are shy? OMG, you are shy, aren’t you?” At this point, I think he realizes I am an LSE-TARGET. But maybe it was a NEG, because he leans away.
He does not initiate further Escalation, but Mis-Calibrates again, backtracks to A2/A3 and breaks KINO. Remains unaffected. Keeps watching the band calmly. The fact that he didn’t push it further (and does not get mad or walk away) earns him great respect in my eyes. This guy is remarkable! Not pushing your kiss on a girl makes her SSystem feel safe.
I decide that maybe if I get a drink, I will become braver.
ANDROMEDA [am in C1, seeking MUTUAL COMPLIANCE] [leaning , close to his ear]: “If you get me a drink, I will probably start falling all over you, and you will have to carry me…” [This is not a CT on my part, this is an attempt to build MC]
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [doesn’t even move =Passive IOD]: “I can’t hear you, the band is too loud.” [motions towards the band]
ANDROMEDA: [repeat request.]
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: “Well, that shouldn’t be a problem. What are you, like 100 lbs?” [=IOI]
That feels good, he is rewarding me for previous KINO by complimenting me on my weight, by showing willingness to carry me physically/protect/support/whatever. But is diverting the conversation away from the subject of drinks. When prompted again to buy me a drink, says he is broke. RIIIIIGT. I bet they do more of coke’s worth in that band in one night, than I pay for daycare in a month. Plus, I wonder how he got that beer if he is so broke.
I leave his side, go to the bar & get myself a JB. Leaving his side is not DEFINACE, it is COMPLIANCE of highest level – My SSystem has been rewarded by his compliment. So I am demonstrating willingness to invest into myself, even after he refused to invest into me. I intend to come right back to his side.
NOTE: ROCKSTAR-Alpha bought me NOT A SINGLE DRINK the entire night. Never even volunteered his services to bring me water. None of that sappy romantic gentlemanly AFC/BETA stuff. All night = ZERO $$$ spent on me.
[How NOT to hit on girls]
As I pass some guys on my way to the bar, one of them speaks, trying to grab my attention: “Oh, that’s NICE! KONICHI-WA!” I smile, like I am not offended, ignore him & his friend, and proceed towards the bar.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: A GENERAL GUIDELINE ON NEGS: Remember not to start NEGs/IODs towards TARGET while you are still in A1 - reserve them for A2, wait for her to demo at least general interest in you before you NEG her. That way she will feel like you’ve had time to evaluate her personality first and that your NEG was justified. Otherwise, you will just come off as a random asshole, who came up to her on the street and started insulting her.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: Making semi-racist remarks is NOT a good way to hit on a girl.
When I reach the bar, like 4-5 guys around me immediately lift their heads up. But none of them seem content/happy or high-energy. They all look waiting/serious. They never look directly at me or open their BL to show me their wrists = that they harmless. They all check me out with sideway glances & look away. I wait 4 the bartender.
One of the guys finally feels brave enough & gives me an pin that reads: “I Refuse to Participate in the Recession”. As he gives it to me, he says: “And this is for you!”- I guess this is an attempt to start a conversation “as if we’ve already known each other for 5 years”. The MM Model Sequencing Mistake this guy makes is trying to go Straight to COMFORT-STAGE, without putting my SSystem through A1, A2, A2, and C1 Phases. This is called “Player Trap #1: Failure to Justify Mutual Attraction” – see MM Book for details. Instead of starting in A1-Phase, he proceeded straight to C2 (Mutual Compliance). He neither DHVd (skipped A1), nor waited for me to show interest (skipped A2), nor waited for me to prove to him I “deserve” his gift (skipped A3), nor talked to me really (skipped C1) = just DLVd himself instead. Plus, he does not smile @ all, and is checking me out of the corner of his eye, warily, like I am about to eat him. He never changes his pose to show me that he “PAUSED HIS LIFE for a second”; neither does he turn his face fully towards me, nor open up his closed BL stance. I thank him, take the pin, buy myself a drink & leave the bar area.
MM Lesson: The Game is linear. Do not skip any Phases. Do not try to hit on a TARGET without putting her through A1, A2, A3 first, lest you make MM Sequencing Mistake #1. [Here: TARGET (me) is in pre-A-Phase, Gamer tries to push her into C2. GAMEOVER]
When I come back to the “Mosh-pit” area, ROCKSTAR-Alpha is gone AGAIN. He thinks I am DEFYING. I stand there for a while, listening to the band, all other guys are checking me out because I am in a mini-skirt. But I am already WAY too invested into ROCKSTAR-Alpha: he has already unknowingly escalated me into “Comfort” Phase properly, playing Solid Game. Moreover, I am hooked on the push-pull rollercoaster he put me through in A1/A2/A3-Phases & am not going anywhere. He just doesn’t realize I am in NC-Mode.
Instead, GOTHIC PRINCE materializes in front of me & begins hitting on me, (or pretending to hit on me). Yeah, GOTHIC PRINCE is really gorgeous & charismatic & talented. However, when he starts “hitting on me”, I am not sure what to think, as he is 100% SOBER, but is using a combination of LOGIC & some really uncomfortable KINO in an attempt to convince me to like him.
GOTHIC PRINCE [Pulls out a wallet of money]: “Did ROCKSTAR-Alpha NOT get you anything yet? I could treat you REALLY GOOD. I will buy a drink if you want.”
ANDROMEDA: “No, I’m cool, man.” [I back away from him towards the bar, then the couch].
He follows me, I keep “Eluding”. He leans in, and I mean REALLY leans in, his awesome streaked hair falling on my shoulders.
GOTHIC PRINCE [speaks slowly in my ear]: “You know, you look so good…When I first saw you downstairs… We had that special connection @ the beginning of the night… And then, when I was onstage, you were watching me the whole time, remember? You can come & hang with me…
His green eyes evoke a longing in my heart - for secrets long perished, days unlived, eternity that is beyond my grasp. It is as if he has ascended from another world where things were strange, incomprehensible, & ever so obscure. I feel like if I follow him, he will bestow on me some kind of forbidden knowledge of the afterlife. But with him we are in A2-Phase. He is using LOGIC & pushing WAY too far into my comfort zone without having even tried to build ANY conversation/connection/rapport first. Even though he has already established High SV when he was onstage earlier, and even though he seems to be the ULTIMATE-TOP-ALPHA-MANIAC/GENIUS/ONE-OF-A-KIND-STAR due to his self-assured manner of carrying himself, that is not enough. Plus, he is leaning in, whispering, his lips are touching my ear, he is way too pushy = to my SSystem this telegraphs that he is BETA. This Sequencing “mistake” (if it was indeed a mistake on his part, and not a WINGING method) is called “Player Trap#2: Disregard for Comfort”. It is also described in MM Book. It occurs when right after putting your Target through A-Phase, you mistakenly skip COMFORT STAGE and proceed straight to SEDUCTION STAGE of the Game.
MM Lesson: The Game is linear. Do not skip any Phases. DO not EVER try to hit on a TARGET/Initiate strong KINO with her WITHOUT putting her into COMFORT-zone first. This shows her SSystem there are no other females in your life = you are low on Survival Resources/food = are not a good hunter = AFC/BETA = GAMEOVER. [Here: TARGET (me) is in A2-Phase – I have already passed A1/he DHVd. Gamer tries to push me into S2-Phase/Makeout/Foreplay]
I am pretty sure GOTHIC PRINCE is WINGING. I really doubt he is hitting on me in truth. He is utterly sober, does not seem to be on cocaine, so I am baffled by this sudden aggression. Because there’s NO WAY a guy who looks THAT gorgeous can be so clueless about women. He wasn’t like that when I first met him. In fact, back then, he had acted a complete opposite of this – was properly opening his SET, DHVing, etc. This makes me suspect he is WINGING for ROCKSTAR-Alpha here too, just like MACHIAVELLI was.
Overall, MACHIAVELLI/DRUMMER/GOTHIC PRINCE are just trying to show me alternatives to being with ROCKSTAR-Alpha. They are demonstrating that ROCKSTAR-Alpha is the most “comfortable” one for me, & I should go for him. I finally get 100% confirmation that GOTHIC PRINCE is WINGING, when he repeats the same thing MACHIAVELLI had said before:
GOTHIC PRINCE [leaning in, pushing me against the wall]: “Do you want to come with me, or do you want to go find ROCKSTAR-Alpha? It’s your choice…”
ANDROMEDA [looking away]: “Um… I think I’m gonna go find ROCKSTAR-Alpha…”
GOTHIC PRINCE [releases me & steps back & away]: “He is upstairs, just go through the stage door.”
ANDROMEDA: “Where is that?”
GOTHIC PRINCE: [points]: “It’s that little door on the left of the stage, just go through it, and then up the stairs.” [senses my hesitation & almost nudges me in that direction] “They’ll let you in. You’ll find him there.”
GOTHIC PRINCE ensures that I am moving towards the stage door & walks off in the opposite direction, pretending to sulk.
This strategy guarantees I don’t go for other guys in the club. WOW, WHAT A TEAM.
MM Lesson: Having good, reliable WINGMEN/WINGWOMEN is a matchless asset in the FIELD. They can tell good stories about you to TARGET, or DHV you just by listening to you when you talk, making you look smart & Alpha. They can take on an “OBSTACLE”, distract them, or help to out-AMOG some guy who is moving in on your TARGET. They can occupy your TARGET’s friends while you are ISOLATING her to try & transition from ATTRACTION into COMFORT. They can even direct TARGET to go find you, like MACHIAVELLI/DRUMMER/GOTHIC PRINCE did.
See Part 8.
Indestructible
05-21-2009, 06:18 PM
Part 8.
I take GOTHIC PRINCE’s advice & proceed upstairs to the 3rd-floor. ROCKSTAR-Alpha is sitting with his back to the door, in the middle of the room on a high futon – again, staging disinterest. ~4 people are lounging in chairs around him. ROCKSTAR-Alpha is really pissed & frustrated by my Game, or, rather, the lack thereof. But is not showing it to me.
I come in from behind, lean over, close his eyes with my hands & then hug him/hang all over him. Almost zero reaction 2 my KINO! By backtracking to A2/A3, ROCKSTAR-Alpha unknowingly RE-TRIGGERS my SSystem’s NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE HERE. He is punishing my Good behavior, AGAIN. My SSystem is confused. At this point, he should have reciprocated KINO & have been all over me, because my SSystem did not Defy him in ANY way. On the CONTRARY: MY SSYSTEM is COMPLYING LIKE-A-LOST-PUPPY: Firstly, I had left his side in order get *myself* a drink & to return to his side. This shows I fell into his FRAME already: a) I accept that he is not going to invest into me, b) I go ahead & invest in myself instead, c) I am rejecting all possible suitors & their offers to invest into me @ the bar, including GOTHIC PRINCE, who is so hot AND had already DHV’d previously, d) I actively seek ROCKSTAR-Alpha out on 3rd floor sound room, instead of just returning to Mosh-Pit area. On top of everything else, I over-rode my ASDefense Mechanism to initiate close KINO with him, disregarding all the people sitting around. He does not realize my System is trying to transition into C2 already. My SSystem goes: HUH??
So instead of “rewarding” me, ROCKSTAR-Alpha just keeps DHVing 4 himself/DLVing 4 me again by not reacting much & thus “punishing” me with lack of attention for what he perceives as Defiance. Ignores me for the most part, begins talking to some guy in glasses. The GLASSES guy is sitting on a couch & being hugged by a BLONDE HB7. BLONDE HB7 is dressed in a black outfit with good cleavage line, her belly bare.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha begins to out-AMOG GLASSES:
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: “So you are in a band, huh… And what do you do for your DAY job? You GOTTA have a day job….”
This a) shows the audience that GLASSES’ band is not popular enough for him to be making a living off of it – DLVs GLASSES. This also DHVs ROCKSTAR, because his band is already signed with a record company. (But, of course, he is a modest guy, he does not come out & say this - I find this out on my own later); b) shows GLASSES is not as dedicated to his pursuit of music as ROCKSTAR is, (because remember, ROCKSTAR-Alpha quit his day job for this gig). Therefore GLASSES has LOWER MORALS/VALUES than ROCKSTAR-Alpha = GLASSES must be BETA.
GLASSES: (begins qualifying himself to the group): “I work for Verizon, selling residential FIOS Internet, it’s REALLY good money, blah, blah, blah.” This DLV’s him even more, for 1) people who have a lot of money never have to say it out loud, 2) work/corporate talk is really boring @ 1 a.m. at a rock club.
I stop hugging ROCKSTAR-Alpha & begin talking to GLASSES: I am annoyed @ ROCKSTAR-Alpha ignoring me. My SSystem needs his validation & proceeds to test his interest in me. I move closer to GLASSES, although am not attracted to the latter. After LESS than two minutes of talking to me, GLASSES asks for my number - under business pretenses. Major DLV. (NOTE: ROCKSTAR-Alpha STILL doesn’t have my number, although he has been Gaming me for ~4.5 hours now. He NEVER “breaks”, NEVER asks for it directly). I give my number to GLASSES, just because he asked & it is a polite thing to do. I then look up at ROCKSTAR-Alpha.
Instead of reacting jealously, the latter simply got up and moved to the furthest corner of the room. He did not walk out of the room completely, so he is still within my sight. Seems to keep his cool, but I know he is really really frustrated by this “Glitch”. The BLONDE HB7 had also got up & moved to sit near ROCKSTAR-Alpha. DAMM. I feel like I had just been hit in the stomach. ROCKSTAR-Alpha just out-AMOGED GLASSES & now this female is showing ROCKSTAR-Alpha her openness for approach by her PROXIMITY.
GLASSES guy is being really pushy with me, seems controlling, and really reactive. Not Alpha at all. He enters my first name into his phone. Then barks out: “Last name!” - like it is an order. I am WAY too nice & shy & girly = LSE-TARGET, I can’t stand up for myself when someone barks like that at me. So I give my last name too. Although now my SSystem’s sirens are going off in my head telling me this guy = DANGER! DANGER! DANGER! I am thinking to myself, WTF??? Is this guy INSANE?
: “WHAT? What was that???”
ANDROMEDA: “Okay, I guess that was a… “negative”??”
GLASSES: “Well, you know what? You have my number, call me if you change your mind”[Hangs up]
ANDROMEDA: [B]*thinking*: “UMMMM…..NOOOOOO, DUDE!!!!!” Player Trap #1 = GAMEOVER.]
MM Lesson: DO NOT BE PUSHY. It’s NOT Alpha-behavior. It alerts TARGETS’ Systems that you = DANGER, because it shows you can’t get females in any other way = are low on resources = have Low Survival Potential = BETA. This is the kind of behavior that makes girls think: “What a creep”! Do not ask 4 TARGETS’ #s or ask them out without putting them through A1, A2, A3, C1/C2 properly!!! They will say “no”. Or will say “yes” and then FLAKE on you!
It is time to leave, the club is closing. We go downstairs, to the 2nd floor (sound-room was on the 3rd) ROCKSTAR-Alpha keeps ignoring me 4 the most part. Remains nice. He is showing me I am free to leave anytime I want. Keeps himself busy packing boxes, carrying equipment with guys & BLONDE HB7, etc. EVERYONE watches him as he moves across the room.
My SSystem tries to regain SV by forcing me to avoid KINO-escalating ROCKSTAR-Alpha, although I really want to @ this point. My SSystem overrides my wishes. I am not lifting a finger to help them gather their stuff. My SSystem is in -15% in NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE MODE again: it was not “rewarded” by attention/affection from ROCKSTAR-Alpha for coming upstairs, it was “punished”.
GOTHIC PRINCE comes by, tries to help raise my Level of Compliance by exerting SOCIAL PRESSURE: Directs me to help them fold stuff. In contrast, ROCKSTAR-Alpha remains silent through and through, NEVER orders me around, just keeps working. I reluctantly hold one corner of a black table-cloth. This SOCIAL PRESSURE trick turns out to be effective though, because ~ 4 min later, I catch myself walking after ROCKSTAR-Alpha & even briefly hug him by the waist.
BLONDE HB7 is working her arse off. She is glued to ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s side, carrying boxes near him, following him outside sometimes even. NOTICE: although I mostly stand far away & look unconcerned, for ~30 min I am also following ROCKSTAR-Alpha around loyally like-a-lost-puppy – with my eyes. My SSystem doesn’t really let me approach, so I just stand there. 3 long-haired HMSs [Hot Metal Studs] are checking me out, but I am hooked on the Alpha.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: Once a girl is in COMFORT with you, once she has passed her COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD, it is most likely she is not going anywhere, even if her NC-Mode kicks in. Or even if Tommy Lee himself suddenly walked into the room.
MM Lesson: To increase Compliance Level in TARGET, have one of your WNGS exert Social Pressure on her. Remember, the larger the audience, the higher the pressure will be, and the higher her CL will get.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: The Game is like an Electrical Circuit map. It’s a SERIES CIRCUIT. You have your battery = yourself. Your wire = the Gaming Sequence. VOLTAGE is your GAMING TECHNIQUE CALIBRATION (NEGS/IOIs/IODs/SOIs/BHRR, BL, routines/stacking, etc). RESISTANCE is her resistance to Gaming progression (resistance to escalation towards sex). ELECTRICAL CURRENT is her Compliance Level %-age = a measure of how well she progresses through your CTs, her responsiveness to your Game (her general escalation towards sex). You have your 9 switches = in A1, A2, A3, C1, C2, C3, S1, S2, S3. TARGETS are lightbulbs. The Lightbulb is located on the wire right after the 9th “switch”. There is a “breaker” between A3 and C1 – “COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD”. Your COMPLIANCE TESTS are your MEASURING DEVICES for whether the electrical CURRENT is flowing. Keep checking her CURRENT (CL%) through conducting CT’s until she reaches “the breaker”.
Reaching COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD is like a flipping a switch on an electrical circuit “breaker”: now the whole System is full of electricity = she stops DEFYING. She is glowing with a steady light. And even if at any point in the future CURRENT levels seem to fall for some unknown reason [ex. she accidentally falls into NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE-Mode], RESISTANCE in the chain will remain low, because now the “breaker” is on forever. So you are Game, it’s 100% on, she won’t go for other “circuits” now = be it Tommy Lee or other guys. Once the “breaker” is on, you just keep turning on the rest of the “switches” one by one until you reach S3-Phase [read: move into COMFORT & then SEDUCTION]. If the light is dim (she don’t seem to comply), all you have to do is make the electrical CURRENT flow again = raise CL%age by raising Voltage [i.e. Calibrate your technique = see “Glitches” section below]. This is done by Phase-specific Calibration: if TARGET is in C1 – you should build conversation, if she is in C2 – you should build connection, use GROUNDING techniques, vulnerability, and so on.
If the LigthBulb doesn’t light up @ all [read: you are not getting laid] - something went wrong in terms of either the Gaming sequence itself (Glitch type #1) or your Gaming skills/Calibration (Glitch type #2). This leads to fluctuations in the CURRENT because you are applying VOLTAGE that is incongruent with the LightBulb’s RESISTANCE levels, i.e. VOLTAGE is either still too high or too low. FLUCTUATIONS in CURRENT are caused by FLUCTUATIONS IN VOLTAGE [read: Mis-Calibrations] and happen when you are an inexperienced Gamer = TARGET stops escalating.
Causes:
1) a) VOLTAGE DROPPED [Mis-Calibrated because you are not too far along the wire, but you don’t know your exact location] = CURRENT DROPPED [read: Compliance Level%-age decreased] because you haven’t reached “the breaker” yet. Her CURRENT is still too low = you still haven’t reached the CThreshold = she is STUCK in A-Phase = Keeps Defying = you have just hit “GLITCH #1a”; or
1b) VOLTAGE DROPPED [Mis-Calibrated because you got too far along the wire too quickly, but you still don’t know your exact location]. You keep hitting the wrong switch [read: Confusing Phases] = CURRENT DROPPED when you are already past the “breaker”, so she is barely glowing = is in NC-Mode = seems to Defy (but is Complying) = you have just hit “GLITCH #1b”;
or
2) RAISED the VOLTAGE [system overload] too high by skipping “switches” [read: skipping Phases] = forgot one or two or three “switches” along the way = you end up blowing her fuse = she falls into DEFIANCE MODE = ejects out of the Game completely = FLAKES on you = you have just hit GLITCH #2 = GAMEOVER/LJBF-zone/Player Trap #1, #2, etc./FOOL’s MATE/BR, etc. (depending on which point on the wire you were in when you blew her fuse)
Thus, there is something wrong with either how and when you are applying your VOLTAGE Levels [how and when and which techniques you are applying = you need more practice/calibration] (Glitch Type #2), or how and when you are flipping those “switches” [how well you transition from Phase to Phase] = you need more experience as to recognizing which Phase she is in] (Glitch Type #1).
“Glitch” type #1: Your CALIBRATION is good, but you lost your location on the wire. TARGET is NOT COMPLYING, but does not FLAKE either. [Solution: Diagnose the location of TARGET on wire]
To solve the above situation # 1 – when Voltage is too low – you need to distinguish where you are in regards to the “breaker”.
a) If your skills are good, and you are an experienced Gamer, but are stuck BEFORE reaching the “breaker”, in A-Phase, then your mistake was a strategic one – you lost your location on wire. You need to return to a point in the Game when you WENT RIGHT= when her light was bright – right before it went dark. Thus, when you find your location, you DO NOT need to change your VOLTAGE levels to get the CURRENT levels just right [read: you do not need to CALIBRATE your Gaming technique] = instead, solution is already there – you found your location. So now you just keep following the standard scheme and keep your Game Phase-specific (i.e. DHV in A1 not A3, etc). After you do that, you should just keep triggering that “switch” until the CURRENT flows. Keep DHVing in A1, NEGGING in A2, etc.
b) If your skills are good, and you are an experienced Gamer, but are stuck AFTER reaching the “breaker”, (but are not aware that you passed it), then please realize that CURRENT [read: CL%-AGE] suddenly dropped because you keep triggering the wrong “switch” [confused “post-breaker” Phases with “before-breaker” Phases = NC-MODE]. Again, you need to figure out which Phase you TARGET is in exactly. I.e. which “switches” you have already moved past. So, again, return to the point on the wire when things went RIGHT = i.e. when she seemed to be “glowing bright” and RUN a number of CTs particularly tailored to the Phase you THINK she was in. Let’s say you put her through A1, then A2, but then in A3 she seems to shut off. She is not IOIing you ACTIVELY, but stays by your side = proximity, and does not flirt with other guys or go home. Is she in Negative Compliance Mode/C1 or did you kick her back to A1? Go back to A2 (when things were going RIGHT) and analyze WHERE EXACTLY YOU OVER-APPLIED WRONG VOLTAGE [over-NEGGED HER]. Then revert to Damage Control mode = again, here you DO NOT need to CHANGE your VOLTAGE levels [read: do not need to CALIBRATE]. All you need to do is start to act in accordance with the standard reward/punishment regimen [begin IOIing actively instead of NEGGING & begin building Conversational Rapport/Connection/Kino].
If she is in NC-mode/C1, she will then proceed to pass 80% of all your CTs = because you just got her out of NC-mode by applying the regular regiment = and will begin glowing brightly again. Make sure your CT’s are specific and VERBAL! I.e. have a specific outcome in mind that you desire, so as not to run amok into any variables (SPIKEY/Bad photos, etc). On the other hand, if she is in A1, she will NOT be as concentrated on your efforts to build conversational rapport, but will look more for entertainment/around the venue/at other guys. She will proceed to pass only ~ 10-20 % of all your CT’s. The simple thing to do after you diagnosed the LOCATION of the “glitch” is to CALIBRATE your Gaming technique to the exact Phase she is in: by Conversation/Grounding (C1), Connection/Grounding/Mutual Compliance (C2) Intimacy/closeness/Vuln. (C3)]
“Glitch” type #2: Your CALIBRATION is bad; TARGET FLAKES [Diagnose the NATURE and LOCATION of the “Glitch” on wire, not the TARGET’s location]
To resolve the situation #2 – when VOLTAGE is too high because you seem to have skipped a “switch”, blown her fuse and kicked her out of the GAME COMPLETELY = you need to return to the point in the Game where things GENERALLY went WRONG. Then you need to diagnose EXACTLY WHAT went wrong & find the EXACT POINT WHERE it went WRONG. Skipping back just one Phase might not work now, because you might have skipped more than one “switch”. Let’s say you “opened” well, got her interested in you (A2), then, when you try to transition her into A3 something went wrong - she goes away to talk to your friend. Simply backtracking to A2 where things “went right”, and to start NEGGING her again won’t work, because she is not even in A2 anymore = she is out of the Game = “changed her circuit” = went to another guy. So it will look like you are just a random guy who came up to her on the street & started NEGGING her out of the blue. She will give you a bewildered look & FLAKE [BTW, Do not try to push TARGET into C1 and NUMBER-CLOSE either! She will FLAKE, because you’ve just skipped two Phases: A2 and A3].
Diagnosing the exact problem and fixing it will not necessarily allow you to get her back into the Game. You might have to move on to another TARGET. Nevertheless, you should find out what went wrong in A3 (or if you EVEN MOVED her into A3 yet when the “Glitch” occurred). Then you should fix it [read: CALIBRATE/IMPROVE YOUR TRANSITIONING GAME] and should go back to pre-A1, instead of A2. Calibrating will allow you to avoid hitting the same “Glitch” again when you are putting TARGET (or another girl) through the same circuit again, i.e. when you get her into your A3-Phase (because your mistake is already diagnosed & fixed by you). This will allow you to increase her CURRENT (=CL %age) again gradually, instead of “blowing her fuse”, like last time. So, the general rule for when you “blow fuses” is to PRACTICE YOUR PHASE-TRANSITIONING GAME.
LSE-TARGETS are like light bulbs with LOW RESISTANCE = it doesn’t take much VOLTAGE [read: Gaming techniques/effort] to reach their COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD & light them up [read: transition into C1]. If you Mis-Calibrate and apply the wrong amount VOLTAGE [read: Over-NEG when they are good/reward when they are bad], you throw them into a defensive NONCOMPLIANCE MODE = CURRENT across them will be so low you will barely be able to register it with NON-VERBAL CT’s = she will only demonstrate the fact that you have already moved past the “breaker” [read: CThreshold] through PROXIMITY, LOYALTY & relative Compliance to your VERBAL orders, not to your overall Gaming strategy.
HSE-TARGETS are like light bulbs with HIGH RESISTANCE = it takes much more VOLTAGE for them to reach the “breaker” and light up. You need to keep raising the voltage across the chain [read: Keep your Gaming skills top-notch], or else her CURRENT will not flow because of her high RESISTANCE. So you should have GREAT opening Game if you are in A1, NEG/IOD the HELL out of her in A2, show less interest in A3 than you would to LSE-TARGET, etc. Follow this until you reach her COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD. Then the CURRENT flows freely = she stops DEFYING = shines brightly, and you can transition her into C1, C2, C3, etc. without a problem. If you failed to raise your VOLTAGE, she will be out of the Game.
(Now, although I did pre-med in college, I don’t remember crap about Physics (sorry, Elinor! ) – So don’t bust on me here if I am a little wrong about electricity & how circuits work).
ANDROMEDA Lesson: Once you have passed TARGET’s COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD, you don’t have to worry about other guys. THEY DISAPPEAR! Because TARGET has a totally different circuit for them. And in their circuits, they have failed to open the “breaker”. Like, I have a different circuit for MACHIAVELLI than for GOTHIC PRINCE. MACHIAVELLI is stuck in pre-A1 – hasn’t even reached the “breaker” yet, GOTHIC PRINCE – in A2/A3, skipping “breaker” (C-phase) completely, & trying to put me in S1 without any electricity flowing. ROCKSTAR-Alpha has moved past the “breaker” a long time ago, my SSystem is full of electricity, but he keeps backtracking to A2/A3 & switching those “switches” on and off. So my SSystem’s “electrical” current levels fluctuate = go from +50% CL to -25% CL, and back (I’m going to say negative range just for the purposes of the Game, I think, in real life Electrical currents don’t go into negative range) = I switch between COMPLIANCE and NON-COMPLIANCE modes. DEFIANCE here would be if I just dumped this Alpha-circuit & moved on to the next one = i.e. if I began flirting with other guys or just left the venue & went home.
Although ignoring me for the most part, ROCKSTAR-Alpha remains a perfect gentleman: attentive & caring. [He just doesn’t let me walk all over him, like AFCs do]. He helps me down a large flight of stairs, because I am still buzzed from the JB I had earlier. Outside, while I am standing by the wall, looking completely trashed, he comes up to me to check up on me twice, to see if I am okay. Does this all just for a couple seconds though. Since I am not KINO-escalating, he goes right back to ignoring me. So it’s not like he is pissed @ me, he is just a “very busy busy busy guy”. I just stand there and watch him move through the venue. Now it is *I* who wishes he escalated, or at least paid a little attention to me. DAMMMMMM.
The bands are loading their equipment. There are 3 HACs standing outside, one of them a HAC-Blonde-HB7. They are waiting to be hit on. There are ~ 5 other guys standing around, too, but none of them hit on any females. They just stand and watch. What are they waiting for? This is all so stupid. I feel like MM should be taught in public schools, as a mandatory part of 9th grade. I want to come up to the girls & invite them to the “after-party” with us, but a) am too buzzed from Jagher; b) it’s not my prerogative – not my house we are going to, I am a guest, I can’t invite anyone there. In ~20-25 minutes the HACs vaporize from there, disappointed.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: Girls want to get laid. Become the Alpha-male they so crave. BETAS/AFCs are never going to do it right.
I tell ROCKSTAR-Alpha to let his band drive separately; we are going in my car. He hesitates, does not think it’s a good idea. Finally, after ~10 min of push-pull, talking to his singer, arranging things w/MOHAWK, he agrees. On our way to my car I try to “break” his FRAME again.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha (in his PROTECTOR mode): “Do you know where you are parked?” (Yes) “Are you okay to drive?” (Yes) “Are you sure?” (Yes) “Do you know the way? ” (Yes) “Do you know how to get to Pasadena?” (Yes) “Have you been there before?” (Yes) [A Dale Carnegie Lesson: Once you get a person to say “Yes” a bunch of times, it’s hard for them to say “No”. ]
ANDROMEDA (trying to reinforce my superior FRAME, hinting he is a wuss): “Don’t worry so much, dude, why are you freaking out? Everything is going to be fine! Just chill, this is a safe neighborhood, all rich yuppies & stuff.” What I am really trying to tell him here is: “Don’t worry dude, why are you freaking out? You are gonna get laid tonight 100%, I just need 2 feel a little more comfortable”. I can’t just come out & say this, because of ASDefense. But I guess, he is not a telepath. Guys never are. It would be so much easier to date girls.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha stops walking & backs away a little. So I immediately stop, too. [Remember, I am hooked?]
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [has stern look on his face. Backs away half a step, as if he is about to walk off. But keeps his eyes on me]: “Oh, *I* am not worried. I am just worried about *YOU*. It’s your car, if you crash it, you know… ” [looks away, as if looking for his friends, who have already left, BTW]
My SSystem panics.
ANDROMEDA: “Oh, okay.” I give up this attempt to “break” him & we keep walking to my car. He thus re-enforces his FRAME CONTROL. As we walk, I know he wants to go KINO/hand-holding. At this point he should have just taken my hand and lead the way. I think he offers his hand later, when we cross the street. I do not remember, for I was buzzed.
On our way to MOHAWK’s house in Pasadena, ROCKSTAR-Alpha gets us lost. But every time I try 2 take my iPhone out of his hand, he only looks up at me incredulously, like I am a bad kid, & shrugs & says: “Just drive.” He doesn’t let it out of his hand, or give it back to me. Although this SEEMS harsh, ROCKSTAR-Alpha is not rude. Unlike GLASSES, who treated me as a RIVAL to be bullied, defeated & scared into submission, ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s attitude is more like, “Oh Gosh, those kids nowadays are sooooooo sillllllyyyyyy, don’t know what’s good for them: Asking for their GPS-toy back when we have a sensible adult guiding the way here…”. And I know for sure that it’s all just part of the Game, and if I really needed my phone back, or something else, or his help with, like a blown tire, he would immediately switch to ROCKSTAR-Helpful mode, not the GLASSES-Evil mode.
MM Lesson: Mystery says that the GAME IS PLAYED IN COMFORT. So strive to achieve TRUST. It’s crucial in building Comfort.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha never makes an attempt to check my phone for contacts/other guys’ numbers, to see if I am “playing other circuits”. Or to open my browser to see which Internet pages I’ve been looking at. And I have had guys do that to me before. (Controlling CREEPS!) My last feeble attempts to overpower this Alpha’s FRAME shatter against the cool wall of his non-reactivity. My SSystem feels safe with him. It prompts me to make an attempt to transition into C2 – Connection, and find something in common.
ANDROMEDA [remembering he went to LA & trying to move into C2]: OMG, I love LA! When I went there, I met all kinds of celebrity rockers, like Dizzy Reed from GNR!!!!
ROCKSTAR-Alpha hesitates as to what to say. Then mistakenly decides that this was a DHVme/DLV him attempt. Collects himself: “Whatever! *I* met __________(some other band)_____ the very *FIRST* NIGHT I CAME TO LA!” He does this, instead of saying “Really? Tell me about your trip!” & launching into C1-Phase-Conversation. He is still stuck in A2.
However, this is yet another demonstration of the fact that his FRAME CONTROL remains @ ~98% throughout the entire game - I only got him to lose it once or twice, I don’t remember when exaclty, but they were slight cracks in his FRAME. He always seals them perfectly afterwards though.
Now MY SURVIVAL SYSTEM is CONFUSED. It goes like this: “OMGGGGG, should he be doing this at this point – i.e. trying to DLV me instead of building more Comfort? He never even gave me a Compliance Test! I am not Defying, I am Complying = *I* am driving *HIM* - *TO* his friends’ house in order to *POSSIBLY* Full-Close *him*! My SSystem seeks connection/exchange of information/friendly conversation. Does he still not realize that I am trying to get into C2? WTF does he still keep playing it as if we are in A2/A3?” Here, I feel like he is supposed reward my SSystem for Compliance, to laugh/tell a funny/exciting story, so I can CONNECT to his kickass life. Instead, he keeps DLVing me actively.
Thus, ROCKSTAR-Alpha continues to build NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE in my SSystem by punishing my good behavior. This “Glitch” in his Game is more noticeable because the rest of his Game is so perfect. Actually, I think it’s a “Glitch” in MY Game, for, due to being an LSE-TARGET, I always fail to IOI properly, especially throughout both ATTRACTION and COMFORT STAGES.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: Gamer Beware! When Gaming LSE-TARGETS, know that they might revert to NC-mode. Their IOI’s/KINO in C-Phase will be only slightly noticeable, sometimes completely absent. As a general rule, LSE-TARGETS will show their openness to windows for escalation by their PROXIMITY & Overall Compliance 2 Verbal orders/explicit Kino-CTs & Loyalty, rather than through overt displays of affection/IOIs.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha is confused & stressed by the seeming lack of initiative on my part in terms of any KINO-escalation. Nevertheless, he follows Mystery’s advice “It’s always on”. Instinctively launches further into Conversation of C1=Phase, finds time 2 talk about philosophy on the ride to the house. Sees that I have “The Secret” CDs in my car. Uses this to establish a SYSTEM of VALUES/MORALS once more. States that people who believe in the Law of Attraction, but expect everything 2 come to them without working, are just plain lazy. “People should work, work, work for what they want, not just sit on their asses. That’s why the economy is in the gutter”. Gets me to disagree with him, and then to agree with him.This a) makes me feel stupid & lazy for believing in “all that New AGE BS” [= DLV 4 me]; b) plus, this reminds me that I never helped his band carry boxes, so I MUST be lazy [=DLV 4 me]; c) establishes himself as a hard-working, persistent, honest individual = High Survival Value = Alpha. This is NOT C2-Conversation = he is not GROUNDING. This is a A2/A3 Conversation = he is showing superiority/morals/DHVing.
He prompts me to give him examples of how Secret worked for me (A2/A3 drilling me again).
ANDROMEDA: “Well, it’s the law of Attraction. So I set my intention to attract blond guys with long hair. So now blond guys hit on me all the time. Like you for instance”.
He proceeds to deny this & points out that *he* never hit on me. (see phase A2 earlier).
ANDROMEDA: “Hahaha, Whatever, dude! The result is the same. Look around - you are in my life now…”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha “Not only in your life, but in your car… in the middle of the night…. driving to my friend’s house… Hmmm…”. I think, as he says this, he FINALLY begins to realize that my SSystem is COMPLYING instead of DEFYING and that we are in C1/C2 transition after all. [Sometimes even really bright guys like him get kinda dumb. It took him ~ 3hrs to realize this.]
See Part 9.
Indestructible
05-21-2009, 06:30 PM
Part 9.
[C2-Phase: Connection] [~ 25 min]
According to Mystery, in COMFORT STAGE, you should GROUND & DEMONSTRATE VULNERABILITY. This will build CONNECTION & TRUST between you and your TARGET. So ROCKSTAR-Alpha proceeds to GROUNDING. Talks about his adolescence, demonstrates some VULNERABILITY, how he was a really shy/socially awkward kid, etc. Helps me connect to his former self. Then talks about when he had his first kiss, etc…. We Hi-5, because for both of us it was @ the same age. He then proceeds to talk about how I seem so tense, how I should relax & “live a little”. NOTE: he is the second Alpha who ever said this to me – i.e. “relax, live a little” when trying to transition me from C1 to C2-Phase. LSE-TARGET has to be alone for you to tell her this stuff, lest you accidentally trigger her ASDefense Mechanism.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: “So, you are divorced, now! You are free, you should just party whenever you can & have fun!!! [Note: I never said I was divorced, I only said we were separated].
ANDROMEDA: [no response. I am driving] – but him using logic on me at this point is effective, for my SSystem trusts him now, views him as the Protector, i.e. goes into “He-knows-what’s-best-for-me”-Mode. So, internally, I agree with him 100%. But am I saying anything out loud? No. Why? I have NO IDEA.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha then makes an attempt to get me to KINO-escalate = fully transition me into C2-Phase.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: “Look, you’ve even shaved your legs and all…” [he runs his fingers up my bare leg briefly, but pulls his hand away quickly - I am wearing a mini-skirt] [~2 seconds]
ANDROMEDA: (ASDefense activates = no response. I am driving).
His CTs are really non-specific at this point. He assumes I fail them without even giving me one in the first place, and proceeds straight to “punishment”. I ask him if he wants to listen to my favorite Russian Metal band. He says, of course. I put it on. He doesn’t compliment them. Doesn’t comment @ all [=passive IOD]. I roll down all the windows in the car, it’s hot, the breeze is nice. He rolls the window on his side up, without saying a word or asking me to close all other windows [=passive IOD]. Nevertheless, now this is a proper IOD for C2 = no NEGS, just withdrawal of attention. Thus, he CALIBRATES CORRECTLY in terms of the Phase-specificity, but MIS-CALIBRATES in terms of his CT-specificity. He punishes me for not responding to his KINO-attempt. ROCKSTAR-Alpha really needs to work on his CT’s being SPECIFIC. More specific than just KINO-reciprocation in general. Offering a hand is a Specific CT. Expecting a girl to jump on you right after you ran your hand up her thigh is not. SSystems are designed to deal with SPECIFIC SITUATIONS and problems they are presented with, EXPLICIT VERBAL orders, preferably. Presenting your Target with precise CTs and having an exact way to measure the outcome/results, will prevent a lot of pain & confusion on your future sarges. It will also eliminate all stray variables.
But after a while ~ 1-3 min of silence, since he is not NEGGING, I grow more comfortable, and initiate KINO-PINGING. I push him playfully on the shoulder, he pushes back, we laugh.
We pull up to the house. ROCKSTAR-Alpha gets out of the car first, closes the door. I get out too. He stares at me through the glass, I pretend not to notice. He is trying to figure out how to K-Close me. Since he isn’t quite sure I am in C-Phase already, for I do not look that comfortable and am not expressing too much interest. He perceives my failure to respond to his escalation attempts as what might be a different Phase. He is now forced to revert to what I call a STONE-COLD KISS-Close, where Comfort is not that apparent, you’ve had, like, almost ZERO IOI’s from the TARGET, and you still think she might be in a different Phase = you are almost “flying blind”. This was very Brave of him.
Despite the detrimental effects of Negative Compliance, Attempt #2 to K-Close succeeds. This time, he remembers not to activate my ASDefense. He does this on the side lawn of the house, before we are in anyone’s eyesight (everyone is in the back/there are no neighbors out @ ~3 am). We are walking side-by-side, and then I end up passing by him, almost brushing his arm. (LSE-Targets manifest Escalation Windows by Proximity). He stops & backs up. “Wait a minute!” [=CT]. Remember, I am hooked now, so I pause [=pass CT]. He motions, smiling: “Come over here!” [=CT]. I comply: I turn and go to him [= pass CT]. He smiles, locks in EC [=IOI/reward]. When I come closer, offers me his hands [=CT]. I take them in mine [=pass CT]. He keeps smiling [=IOI]. He pulls me in, I follow his motion [=CT/pass CT]. Smiles again [=IOI] & says: “Give me a kiss!” [=CT]. So I do [=pass CT]. (At least I think that is how it happened, my logical brain turned off here again, ask him for more details). When I try to pull away after two semi-long kisses, he lets me. But immediately laughs [=IOI/reward] & says: “Wait! I am not done with you yet!”, & motions for me to come closer again [=CT]. This whole time he is standing still, ROOTED IN ONE SPOT, NOT MOVING IN ON ME. So it is *I* who is the one moving towards him. I come closer [= pass CT]. He lets me kiss him again. [~5 min]
[C3-Phase: Intimacy] [Duration: ~35-40 min]
He offers me his hand & I take it. We proceed inside MOHAWK’s house. But he runs up the stairs of the deck first = he has to enter the social circle as the one leading. As we enter the social circle, he drops my hand & sees if I still follow him [=CT]. I do [=pass CT]. He goes inside, I trail him [=pass CT]. His friends are all getting something to eat. ROCKSTAR-Alpha places me in the kitchen & walks off to the loo. MOHAWK tries to talk to me. When ROCKSTAR-Alpha returns, he and out-AMOGs MOHAWK, employing the same strategy as with SPIKEY above: starts conversation with MOHAWK, locking in EC w/ him. However, we are in C-Stage now, so he doesn’t put me in 80% IGNORE zone. On the contrary, glances @ me, trying to see if I will want to engage in friendly conversation. Talking to MOHAWK makes me feel guilty AGAIN though. So my SSystem prompts me to go behind ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s back AGAIN, to show loyalty, just like with SPIKEY. [~8 min].
ROCKSTAR-Alpha gets something to eat, I drink more water. We sit on the back porch under the stars, listen to his friends chat [~ 35 min]. He sits next to me, one hand over my shoulder or on my waist, I don’t remember, because my logic turns off here again, I’m too turned on. But I am STONE-COLD SOBER by this point. ROCKSTAR-Alpha continues his transition from C2 to C3. Keeps escalating/KINO from time to time, gradually increasing my System’s BT. However, he remembers not to re-trigger my ASDefense Mechanism = no kissing in front of the group, just light KINO: smells my hair, nuzzles at my neck. MOSTLY sits & listens to his friends = More Comfort/Connection building. IMPORTANT: At this point, it should be 30% KINO-escalation, 70% Comfort. Then gradually increase this percentage ratio to 50%-50% as you move into S1-Phase. According to Mystery, the Game is played in COMFORT. (For me, ROCKSTAR-Alpha actually calibrates correctly & starts @10%KINO/90% COMFORT = I am an LSE-TARGET)
[S1-Phase: Staging] [Duration: ~ 7-9 min]
When everyone begins getting ready to go to sleep, ROCKSTAR-Alpha claps his hands together [NLP] & says “Okay, let’s go.” He gets up to go inside the house. Begins walking away in his semi-circular trajectory and turns slightly around to look if I follow [=CT]. He is now ~ 8 feet away, so I do [=pass CT]. He then holds out his hand for me [=CT]. My BT is now through the roof, so I comply gladly [=pass CT]. This way it looks natural, and not like he pulled me away from a conversation. I wasn’t talking to his friends anyway, just listening. But still, WOW).
ROCKSTAR-Alpha leads me downstairs. Downstairs, I ask him to turn lights down a bit, . He doesn’t want to, but finally complies. At this point, he displays ~40% overall Compliance Level but this is normal in C-Phase when you should begin to manifest MUTUAL COMPLIANCE to build TRUST. We kiss/makeout. Within ~5-7 minutes of KINO-escalation, he realizes that my BT is high. He then proceeds to escalate into EVOLUTION PHASESHIFT Routine.
[B][S2–Phase: FOREPLAY] [Duration: ~35 min, incl. ~15-min in FREEZE-OUT]
Although my BT is high, I experience what he perceives as ~40% LMR towards certain forms of foreplay. My LMR towards just sex is @ 0% at this point. This confuses ROCKSTAR-Alpha. Keep in mind that TARGETS have “personal preferences” as to forms of foreplay. Some girls might not feel comfortable doing everything you ask during the first night. You need to continue building Comfort over a few days/weeks for them to start doing all that freaky s***. And some girls just don’t do certain stuff @ all.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha mistakenly perceives my “personal preferences” as high-percentage-LMR. He deals with it in the standard way described in the MM Book - launches me in a long FREEZE-OUT: Leaves the room for ~ 15-20 minutes, then returns. When I ask him where he went, says he just needed to get some water. Lays down on his back, says he is tired.
[S3-Phase: Sex] [Duration: ~ 35 min, incl. ~5 min in EVOLUTION PHASESHIFT]
I escalate (so I guess his FREEZE-out worked). He rewards me emotionally for it by laughing & warmth & reciprocating KINO/escalating in turn. Launches into EVOLUTION PHASESHIFT again. My LMR remains @ 0% @ throughout. After ~5 minutes into EVOLUTION PHASESHIFT I am practically begging him to Full-Close. He backs away for ~1 min & makes me beg. Notice: In every major KINO/escalation, he suggests & waits for me to comply. Does not force anything, ever.
I make him wear protection. ROCKSTAR-Alpha proceeds to f*** the HELL out of me. He keeps moving me around S3-location. Keeps switching positions, I can count at least 4. While doing so, he keeps switching MODES from “Caveman” to “Modern-day” and back to “Caveman”. It was more than just kickass sex = it was the Best sex of my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Even comparing to my Los Angeles PORNSTAR-Alpha. Although my LA PORNSTAR-Alpha was amazing too – his skills are legendary, for he gets paid for what we, mere mortals, have to play the Game! :P]
MM Lesson: Moving your TARGET around S3-Location, switching “MODES” and positions ensures her experience with you is x10 more stimulating than with other guys.
MM Lesson: Never force anything. You might end up with date-rape charges.
MM Lesson: Always use protection. Even though the very fact that you are playing Solid Game ensures your TARGET is High-Quality, i.e. that she goes only 4 guys whose Game skills are at your level or higher (true Alphas are rare), still it never hurts to be safe (true Alphas get laid a LOT). You do not want to be stuck with an STD, or be paying child support for a kid with a girl you have not tested for Mystery’s “Pair-Bond”-Compatibility yet.
[Post S3-Phase: Post-Full-Close] [Duration: ~ 2-3 hrs]
Post Full-Close, my SV is down, and my System seeks Comfort. He bestows it on me by quiet laughter/expressing happiness/light KINO.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: “Whoa, this was the MOST fun I’ve had…. in a WHILE!”
ANDORMEDA: “Really?” I fall silent, turn away, do not make any KINO-attempts.
I am an LSE-TARGET, this is first 1NS ever, I have no clue what to say = so I grow insensitive = this is a sign that my SSystem is ACTIVELY and AGGRESSIVELY seeking to re-gain SV lost post-Full-Close. It now needs him do demonstrate more MUTUAL COMPLIANCE/Comfort.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha immediately checks himself & changes his strategy by backtracking to A2/A3 Phase. Begins to play his push-pull again. Instead, he should have disregarded my LSE-NC-Mode & kept rewarding my SSystem for Full Compliance ANYWAY. I.e. regardless of what I say/do, he should have proceeded to putting my SSystem through 100% Comfort.
I pull in closer, putting my leg on his. ROCKSTAR-Alpha pushes my leg away abruptly & waits for a reaction. This throws my System into NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE MODE – AGAIN. I pull away & stay ~1 ft away, laying still, holding just his hand in mine. This means: my SSystem is 100% complying with his wishes = reading his push as a “Stay Away” command.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha doesn’t take his hand away – he is waiting for me to come back. But that is not happening: MY SSYSTEM HAD JUST BEEN PUNISHED FOR FULL-CLOSING HIM.
After ~10 minutes of futile waiting, he pretends to fall asleep. In ~ 15 minutes, I quietly get up to get water (my SSystem is in full Compliance, so I am not leaving him for other guys = I intend to come back, of course). ROCKSTAR-Alpha immediately “wakes up”. He asks me in a harsh, loud voice: “Where are YOU going?” I flinch. This is BETA-behavior = reactive/controlling. [=1 small fracture in his FRAME] I tell him I will be right back. Does not follow me or ask any more questions, lets me go [=seals the crack in his FRAME]. When I am back, he waits for me to come closer & initiate KINO/cuddle. But my SSystem forbids me to do so – by pushing my leg away earlier, this Alpha ordered me to “stay away”. I have to re-establish my SV & prove to him that I am compliant female. So I do not initiate any KINO, because my SSystem would read that as DEFIANCE to his orders & would punish me for it. I just fall asleep nearby.
MM Lesson: REWARD all good behavior. In post-S3, AVOID PUNISHING your TARGET’s SSystem after she showed you her HIGHEST LEVEL of COMPLIANCE. Launching in 100% Comfort post-Full-Close shows TARGET’s SSystem she made the right choice & you are not going to “leave” her & her “hypothetical offspring”. Wait to start A2/A3-Phase (Push-Pull) until the morning, when there are other guys/girls around 2 see you acting Alpha. Otherwise, TARGET’s Survival System goes into Damage Recovery Mode & will throw her into an even MORE AGGRESSIVE attempt to re-gain any SV she had lost in S3-Phase. TARGET will do so at your expense.
MM Lesson: When Gaming LSE-TARGETS, who will inevitably make VERY AGGRESSIVE attempts to regain their SV post-Full-CLOSE, ignore all and any such attempts, and launch into 100% COMFORT regardless. This will prevent you from BUILDING NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE in her SSystem. In general, you can gauge your TARGET’s level of her self-perceived SV (SE) by how fast & how aggressively she will attempt to re-gain SV post-Full-Close. By knowing the ratio of your respective SV %ages in regards to each other (i.e. your SV vs. TARGET’s SV), you can calibrate your future approaches/Day2-Gaming/LTR-Gaming etc.
As the morning light breaks over wheat fields of Pasadena, my SSystem is in FULL NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE-Mode. I get up & begin gathering my stuff. ROCKSTAR-Alpha tires to stop me by launching into Comfort again, laughs: “What in the world are you doing? Come over here!” motions with his hand & smiles. I comply, of course. MY SSYSTEM WILL COMPLY WITH ALL HIS VERBAL COMMANDS NOW. He puts me through COMFORT-zone for ~5-7 minutes. We sit face-to-face, I finally get to see his Tattoos in daylight. I run my hands over them, he hugs me by my waist. This somewhat dissipates my NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE, pushes my CL over 0% and gradually up. We are almost in C3-Connection zone again.
Then ROCKSTAR-Alpha accidentally activates my ASDefense Mechanism by saying: “So, ANDROMEDA, huh? WELL IT WAS VERY NICE TO MEET YOU…” This kind of hints that I am promiscuous, and kicks up my ASDefense Factor up to ~40%. But most importantly, this MAKES my SSystem BACKTRACK to A2. Remember, an SSystem takes every order LITERALLY, that’s how Survival Systems work. It now draws a parallel Algorithm to events way back in A2: 1) ROCKSTAR-Alpha met me @ the merch. table in A2-Phase + 2) played push-pull + 3) pulled me in for light KINO/I almost touched his Tattoos + 4) rewarded me with warmth/laughter + 5) said: “WELL IT IS VERY NICE TO MEET YOU, ANDROMEDA” + 6) then EXPLICITLY told me to LEAVE + 7) looked kinda UPSET that I left + 8) then came & found me @ the benches “LATER”+ 9) gave me a RUSSSSSHHHHHHHH!!!!
So right now, my SSystem reads the new situation as something from the past: 1) He is acting as if he is in A2 + 2) doing his push-pull thing + 3) he pulled me in for Comfort KINO/I got to touch his Tattoos + 4) rewarded me with warmth/laughter + 5) now he says: “WELL, IT WAS VERY NICE MEETING YOU, ANDROMEDA” = therefore = 6) wants me to LEAVE. My SSystem’s Algorithm assures me: 7) he will look UPSET soon + 8) but will come & find me “LATER” 9) will reward me for leaving with a RUSHHHHHHHH!!!!! My SSystem is in 100% COMPLIANCE WITH HIM IN ORDER TO SURVIVE.
So I pull away.
After I pull away & get up, ROCKSTAR-Alpha looks UPSET. This actually makes my SSystem reward me, because he was also UPSET right after he told me to LEAVE in A2 - when I walked away from Merch. Table (see Step #7 in Algorithm above). This only reinforces the Algorithm & assures me I SHOULD leave. My SSystem reads him being upset = me doing everything right according to the previously programmed scheme. It rewards me for 100% Compliance & tells me: “You go, girl! We are going to survive, because you are obeying this Alpha!”
So I feel an dopamine/endorphin/serotonin/whatever rush.
But despite my SSystem’s orders, my Modern Self doesn’t want to leave. So now I am stuck @ an “Impassé” again. I am being pulled in two different directions = I am torn between my high CL%-age and my ASDefense Factor. To gain time, & secretly hoping that he will stop me & EXPLICITLY order me to stay, I pretend that I can’t find my clothes. Had I really wanted to leave, I would have never asked ROCKSTAR-Alpha to help me find them. Instead, I would have just found them myself & left promptly.
ANDROMEDA: “I can’t find my underwear.”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha: searches for it, finds it, and brings it to me. [Demonstrates 50% Compliance. This does not equal “losing a FRAME”. It is a normal part of C3. Mystery says that in C-Phase, MC is necessary. So this is normal, because ROCKSTAR-Alpha is trying to put me into COMFORT again. Since he does so with the “you are free to leave any time” attitude, he DOES NOT lose his FRAME even for a second or “break” down =Does not beg = remains Alpha = Plays Solid Game.]
ANDROMEDA: “Where is my bra?”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [checks himself, changes strategy & tries to reinforce his FRAME instead of showing Compliance]: ‘I don’t know where it’s at.”
ANDROMEDA: [FOLLOWS THE ALGORITHM] (I just keep looking around)
ROCKSTAR-Alpha [Checks himself, changes strategy again & launches into 40-50% Comfort once more]: Looks all over the room, finds my bra, too, and fetches it to me. Looks @ me with disdain though, but watches me closely, waiting for me to say something.
However, I am in NC-Mode, and am following the Algorithm. So the fact that he agrees to fetch my stuff for me (on top of NOT trying to stop me ACTIVELY/VERBALLY & looking disdainful) reinforces to my SSystem that he really DOES want me to leave. On top of that, him backtracking to A2-Phase gives me low Comfort %-age Post-Full-Close & throws my ASDefense Mechanism into full swing, kicking up its Resistance Factor to ~70%.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha is really upset, but waits for me to give some kind of a sign that I want to exchange contact information.
Instead, my SSystem rewards me with more dopamine/endorphins.
So I laugh happily straight in his face & out-loud. Then I proceed to say “Bye!” & eject out of the S3-location, giving him some lame excuse 4 leaving.
I REALLY WANT TO STAY, BECAUSE THE SEX WAS EASILY THE BEST I HAVE EVER HAD. PLUS, ROCKSTAR-ALPHA IS ONE OF THE COOLEST, MOST KICKASS FUN GUYS I HAVE EVER MET, & SUCH A SWEETHEART THAT I REALLY WANT TO KEEP IN TOUCH.
But I leave.
I do this because:
1) I just felt a rush of dopamine/serotonin/endorphins/whatever AGAIN = My System just rewarded me AGAIN for him looking UPSET. To my SSystem, this means the Algorithm is being followed to the letter (just like @ the Merch. table = see explanation above).
2) Plus, my SSystem Algorithm did NOT include any digits exchange. In fact, he never EXPLICITLY asked for my number @ the merchandize table. [Which is good when you are dealing with HSE-TARGETS, because these girls just push their phone number on you once you reach their Compliance Threshold]
3) Also, due to disdain on his face, my ASDefense Factor is @ ~70% now.
Note: This A2/A3-Phase backtracking probably worked for him with other TARGETS, who are not LSE, i.e. were not in NC-Mode already, and whose ASDefense Mechanisms were not as sensitive as mine: I have my own set of psychological intimacy issues, which other HSE-TARGETS probably don’t.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha doesn’t realize I am an LSE-TARGET, because I look so good, I’m HB9. Again, this is my 1st 1NS EVER, my SSystem is going haywire.
So I leave not because I want to. In fact, I really, really, really want to stay. But he put me in NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE MODE, my ASDEfense Resistance Factor %-age is high & my Survival System Algorithm over-rides all my other wants/needs right.
All it would have taken to override my Algorithm is to say: “Stay” out-loud [=VERBAL COMMAND]. He should have grinned & said: “That all can wait. Come over here! STAY for a little while!” And launched into 100% COMFORT again. This would have given my SSystem an EXPLICIT order to stay. It would have then overridden the old Algorithm in the face of new variables.
His FRAME never falters though, he remains Alpha – does not ask for my # even here, does not beg, does not get up or follow me like a puppy. RESPECT!!!! Sticks to his (albeit mistaken) Gaming strategy & remains non-reactive, although inside is probably thinking: “WTF?????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? This girl is SUCH A BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
ROCKSTAR-Alpha plays Solid Game: I experience 0% BR . (Although he is probably thinking it’s, like, @ ~90% since I left abruptly) But no, this is no FOOL’s MATE at all. He transitions me through all of the phases properly. BR is @ 0% also because my SSystem has followed the Algorithm to the letter, and is now waiting for him to come & get me LATER & give me the much-deserved RUSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! = is sure this Alpha will return.
[B]MM Lesson: Buyer’s Remorse is a protective mechanism (just like ASDefense Mechanism) that usually activates when TARGET’s SSystem receives little Comfort post-Full-Close. Receiving 100% Comfort keeps TARGET convinced that the Alpha she just Full-Closed is not going to leave her to raise her “offspring” alone = a perilous endeavor back in Stone Age.
ANDROMEDA Lesson: ASDefense Resistance Factor is x10times more compelling in NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE MODE. TARGET’s Survival Instinct will make her try & re-gain her Social Value at ANY COST. If you trigger her ASDefense, she will try to leave & see if you actively attempt 2 stop her. She will do so even if she genuinely enjoyed your time together. For her SSystem, the need for “Survival” always overrules all other wants.
MM LESSON: The situation described above IS DIFFERENT from Gaming your TARGET into a FOOL’s MATE. If a girl Full-Closed you because she was drunk, or knew you were BETA but did it anyway, or just wanted a 1NS with anyone, or for ANY REASON OTHER than your excellent Solid Game, you are in FOOL’s MATE. Here, a TARGET will experience genuine BR [Buyer’s Remorse] & leave. She will NOT wait for you to stop her from leaving. Will NOT even wait for you to notice any of her attempts to leave. Nor will she really be open to engaging in a dialogue/KINO with you post-S3, i.e. will not be receptive to you initiating Comfort. Most likely, she will NOT try to get in contact with you ever again. Even if she contacts you, you will forever be stuck with her in LJBF zone. Playing your TARGET into a FOOL’s MATE does not constitute Solid Game.
See Part 10.
Indestructible
05-21-2009, 06:46 PM
part 10.
RESULTS
ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s plays Solid Game. He guides me through all the sub-stages properly, without skipping any Phases. Keeps changing our location for better results. His performance is practically flawless: his Compliance Level remained @ perfect 0% throughout A1/A2 - never jumps through any of my hoops, never buys me a drink, never compliments me @ this stage, etc. Increases Compliance in C1 to ~30%, (this is lower than normal, because he still thinks I am in A2) Ex.: reluctantly agrees to ride in my car to S3 location. Although his Post-S3 Compliance rate rises to ~50%, when he fetches my clothes, this is normal, because building some Mutual Compliance is necessary for a proper emergency attempt at Comfort-building.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s FRAME CONTROL never falters, remains @ ~98% throughout. I want to stress that this percentage NEVER drops, he maintains his FRAME well during all of the sub-Phases, even post-S3. Thus he plays Solid Game, I never “break” him. He never reverts to BETA-mode.
My Compliance Level gradually rises as Game progresses: due to his great indirect opening technique & DLVing onstage, my CL is already @ ~ 10% the onset of A1 (instead of normal 0%). Due to NC-Mode Activation throughout the Sarge, my CL fluctuates down to negative values (–). It is @ -5-10%% immediately prior to K-Close Attempt # 1, and is @ ~70% immediately before S3. (Due to being an LSE-TARGET I need a higher than normal CL %age for Full-Close). Post-S3, however, this value drops, which is precipitated by activation of the earlier SSystem Algorithm & ASDefense Mechanism. Resistance Factor rises to ~40%, then to ~70%.
Overall LMR experienced by me after EVOLUTION PHASESHIFT: 0% (He perceived it @ ~40% for he confuses personal preferences with high LMR-%age). Overall BR = 0%, all of the “switches” were properly flipped, no Player Traps, no fuse blown, no LJBF-zone, NO FOOLS MATE. (Perceived BR is ~90% due to the fact that I leave). LMR = 0%, BR = 0% and absence of Sequencing Mistakes are yet three extra indicators of Solid Game.
Thus, ROCKSTAR-Alpha plays Solid Game @ 90% congruence margin. I took off 10% in points for his one major “Glitch” during A3/C1 transition. ROCKSTAR-Alpha needs more experience in gaming Shy/LSE-Targets who have a tendency to fall into NC-Mode due to their sensitive ASDefense Mechanisms. He also needs to avoid instilling disadvantageous Algorithms in TARGETs’ SSystems & learn to run more specific, VERBAL & variable-independent CT’s.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha’s Game gives us a GENERAL OVERVIEW of what a perfect GAMING STRATEGY should look like:
STAGE 1 - ATTRACTION: [Pretend you are a PRADA/VERSACE bag]
A1 (OPENING)
a) [Stage your “window display”] - People would not buy half the s*** they buy if there were no advertisements/if malls were unclean/if there were fingerprints on the windows. So be “Well-Groomed” and use PEACOCKING. ROCKSTAR-Alpha has style, uses accessories/is PEACOCKED properly.
b)[Establish high value] - You are just DHVing in general, not to her. Just talk normal, or stack routines, smile, relaxed BL, this is your TERRITORY. Use MCT = Multiple conversation threads, lead the interaction, captivate audience with gambits. ROCKSTAR-Alpha begins his Game by passively DHVing in the pool-hall downstairs, has congruent/relaxed BL. Displays some of the ALPHA-MALE CHARACTERISTICS, including the SMILE, STRONG FRAME & WILLINGNESS to WALK AWAY. [Pre-A1-Phase Duration: ~4 min]. Also he did not need to stack routines/gambits as he DHVd by his onstage performance & friendliness with everyone @ the merch table. [~30 min] [Total Pre-A1-Phase Duration: ~ 35-40 min]
c) [Press the “Start” button] - Act unaffected. [Active IODs/NEGs= 0% = no NEGGING yet, she has to deserve ANY attention you pay her] [PASSIVE IODs/CLOSED BL = 0% = relaxed BL, show wrists] [Active IOIs/Compliments =0%] [Passive IOIs = 50% (smile, you are friendly in general, to everybody, not just her)] [Active SOIs = sexual KINO/touching/grabbing = 0%][Passive SOIs = glances @ TARGET’s body = 0%] Proceeds smoothly through introductions @ merch table upstairs. Begins light KINO/handshake [A1-Phase Duration: ~ 5 min].
A2 (FEMALE-to-MALE INTEREST) – All girls are fighting over you, for you are a rarity among all those low-value WAL-MART/TARGET brands out there. You are a true designer bag, about to slip away from her grip. [Active IOD usage 70-80%] [Passive IOD’s 60% of the time/close BL] [Active IOIs (if any) = 2% of the time and only when she works really hard for them] [Passive IOIs = 30% but only as a “reward” when jumps through a hoop][Passive SOIs = 0%][Active SOIs = 0%] ROCKSTAR-Alpha makes me feel like he is the Prize by PAWNING WHITE DRESS, BODY-ROCKING & ELUDING, using FTC, cutting me off & shattering my frame by BHRR. Never looks @ my body except in a tattoo NEG. [A2-Phase Duration: ~20 min]
A3 (MALE-to-FEMALE INTEREST) – Is she willing to pay the Versace price? Reward her by demonstrating SOME interest & gradually increase her CL. Keep running CT’s until she reaches her COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD. [Active IODs decrease to 30-40%, Passive IODs = decrease to 40%] [Active IOIs = decrease to 10-20% & keep increasing][Passive IOIs = 50-70% (but only when you want to reward/reel her in with your BL)] ROCKSTAR-Alpha keeps demonstrating a gradually increasing passive interest in me. When we sit & talk on the bench in the concert hall, “PAWNS” HELPFUL GIRL [A3]. Makes me “QUALIFY”/puts me through CT’s/BHRR/Display of Alpha-CHARACTERISTICS]. Involves audience for better impact of his NEGS/IOIs, employs SOIs sparingly, IODs/IOIs are BL-congruent. Rewards my SSystem’s compliance with a RUSSSHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Gradual increase in KINO-levels. Leads me back to merch. table after the RUSHHHH, then “PAWNS” NEWGIRL = DHVs, but displ. loyalty/willingness to share his SV. [A3-Phase Duration: ~50 min].
COMFORT: [Treat your TARGET as if she were a business partner]
Imagine you are trying to close a business deal. This is partially true, because both of you have the same goal: you both want to get laid. You are her business partner in overcoming the ASDefense System’s Protective Mechanism by building COMFORT.
C1 (CONVERSATION) - Before you even begin to negotiate a business deal, you need to exchange background information with your client – what your company does, what your skills are, what their company does, what their skills are. You need to communicate with your TARGET. [Active IODs = decrease to 10%][Passive IODs = 10%][Active IOIs = 10%] [Passive IOIs increase to 50%] [Active/passive SOIs remain @ 0% - In business world, sexual harassment is punished severely]. ROCKSTAR-Alpha guides me through several C1-locations: I follow him to the couch, where he attempts “Photo2Phone N-CLOSE”, fails, REMAINS UNAFFECTED, builds rapport throughout. ISOLATES timely, leads me outside, pauses, then we proceed to the van. On our way just keeps talking about his life/asking me about mine. Drops my hand outside during walk. Never initiates any sexual KINO. Instead, waits for KINO-escalation on my part, fails, REMAINS UNAFFECTED. Returns me to the club, we stand outside - puts us in C1 fully [Connection/Conversation] but thinks I am still in A2.
Out-AMOGs obstacles effectively – SPIKEY passively, GLASSES - directly. Mistakenly begins building NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE by failing to “reward” my SSystem when I demonstrate LOYALTY. Leads me downstairs to the bar where, by introducing me to MACHIAVELLI, attempts to ease my transition into C1, opening up his world to me = deeming me worthy of meeting his “inner circle”. Then puts me through more CT’s. I am in NC-Mode, so I fail them. He backtracks to A2, NEGS me, we both do our “walk-aways”. Attempts to move me into C2-phase when I find him, MIS-CALIBRATING my CL %-age: builds COMFORT briefly/ then KINO-escalates/tries to transition into K-CLOSE/Attempt # 1 fails - due to my actual CL being @ ~5-10% instead of the required ~30-40% for a K-Close. REMAINS UNAFFECTED throughout, strong FRAME CONTROL.
Is confused, hits the “GLITCH” for a while, because my ASDEFENSE MECHANISM is kicking in on top of everything else. Instinctively begins to build COMFORT, which somewhat dissipates my NC. My CL is rises to ~40%, my SSystem proceeds to further comply by a) accepting his refusal to demonstrate MUTUAL COMPLIANCE (buy me a drink) & b) rejecting other suitors, including GOTHIC PRINCE who was PRE-SELECTED. On 3rd floor in sound-room, where he out-AMOGS GLASSES, continues to unknowingly build NC in my SSystem & passively “punish” my SSystem for good behavior. This gets us stuck in C1 all the way up until our car ride. [C1 Duration: ~2-3 hrs]
C2 (CONNECTION/ MUTUAL COMPLIANCE) - This is where you take your business partner to lunch, tell them about your life, and win them over with friendliness & warmth. You thus pave way for MUTUAL COMPLIANCE. You use GROUNDING techniques, so they can relate to you. You sign the business contract w/ a K-Close (or a Number-close, if her CL are still too low) [Active IODs=Passive IODs = 0%] [Active IOIs=30%] [Passive IOIs = 40%] [Active SOIs=2%, he touched my leg] [Passive SOIs = 20%] In the car, when ROCKSTAR-Alpha realizes I am already in C1, he immediately employs GROUNDING, builds more COMFORT by good CONVERSATION & DEMONSTRATION OF VULNERABILITY, makes attempts to CONNECT. We proceed to KINO-PINGING (“Hi-5”s, etc). He was stuck in A2 for so long, he overused IODs & his C2-Phase was short, but we still managed to get me there despite the “GLITCH”. However, due to me being an LSE-TARGET, this is not enough for me to display that I am in Comfort ACTIVELY. Is forced to revert to a STONE-COLD K-CLOSE Routine. This finally allows us to fully enter C2-Phase, after ~ 3 hrs wasted in C1 on backtracking/NC-related fluctuations in CL%-age. [C2-Phase Duration is ~ 25 min: from Kino-pinging to K-close to when we sit on the porch w/friends.]
C3 (INTIMACY) - The transaction contract has been signed (in C2 above). Now parties feel like they are a team. Pretend you are teenagers just making out with no sex in mind. Right?)[Active IODs=Passive IODs = 0%] [Active IOIs=50%] [Passive IOIs/KINO = gradually increase from 30 to 90%] [Active SOIs=5-7%. Do not come out and say anything about her looks/body yet.] [Increase Passive SOIs to 40%. You can glance at her body now] ROCKSTAR-Alpha proceeds with KINO-escalation on the porch of MOHAWK’s house. I am 100% comfortable with him now. Elevates my BT by starting @ 90% Comfort/10% KINO-escalation, and increasing this percentage ratio while smoothly transitioning into S1. [C3-Phase Duration: ~ 35-40 min]
SEDUCTION:
S1 (STAGING) - Courtship/Romance/lighting the candles/flowers/poetry. Now you can pull out all that romantic BS AFCs/BETAs throw at her all the time too early in the Game. [Active SOIs=30%, passive SOIs 60%]. This phase is short because my BT is already high & I am ready to go. We just make out. He ensures I am comfortable, lights out. [S1 is a short Phase ~ 7-9 min]
S2 (FOREPLAY) - Deal with LMR by launching into FREEZE-OUTS/Passive IODs only. Play the patient protector figure, not the aggressive molester figure. This makes her feel safer in EVOLUTION PHASESHIFT. ROCKSTAR-Alpha senses my high BT and launches EVOLUTION PHASESHIFT. Does a FREEZE-out to overcome what he erroneously considers high LMR % age. [Total time in S2 is ~ 35 min, w/15-minute FREEZE-OUT]
S3 (SEX) - Enjoy yourselves. Remember to brush up on pleasure techniques. Move her around the S3 location, so it feels like she is having even more fun/experiences more. [Active SOIs 90%] [Increase Passive SOIs = 100%] Full-Close. ROCKSTAR-Alpha keeps moving me around S3-location. Keeps switching MODES from “Caveman” to “Modern-day” and back. Keeps switching positions. [S3-Phase Duration: ~ 35 min].
Post-S3
Put your TARGET in 100% Comfort-zone. [Active IODs = Passive IODs = 0%] [Active IOIs=Passive IOIs=100%] [Active SOIs/”OMG you are so hot”= 30% = Passive SOIs = 50%] ROCKSTAR-Alpha compliments me by saying he had a lot of fun/initiates hugging/playful kissing. Post-Full-Close, ends up triggering NC in my SSystem again, due to mistakenly confusing its lower Compliance percentage for high Defiance percentage. Attempts to resolve this by backtracking to A2/A3, which, in turn, activates ASDefense Mechanism & kicks ASDfactor up to ~40%. Moreover, in accordance with an erroneous Algorithm instilled earlier, my SSystem prompts me to make a false attempt to leave S3-location = to gauge his level of investment. Instead of going into 100% Comfort, he erroneously tries to remedy this by continuing to “rinse & repeat” in A2/A3. Instead of dissipating NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE, this strategy ends up kicking my ASDefense Resistance Factor to ~70%. NOTE: the Gamer’s “Glitches” with NC are due mainly to the fact that I am a shy/nerdy/LSE-TARGET. My individual ASDefense is MIS-CALIBRATED & he does not realize this: because I am HB9 he automatically assumes I am an HSE-TARGET. PRESERVES his Dominant FRAME @ ~98%, despite the fact that I leave S3 location promptly.
Overall Sarge duration (including S3, excluding post-S3) is ~7.40 hours. Time it took him to achieve S3 from pre-A1-phase = ~6.73 hrs.
Total Game Time, including post-S3-Phase: ~10.40 hrs.
CONCLUSION:
When Mystery was just starting out, it took him weeks in the FIELD to work up enough courage just to approach a girl. Do not give up. ONLY After many nights in the FIELD it becomes second nature.
Know this: the Mystery Method is always effective. The Game is always linear. Whether you Sarge just for one night or are Gaming a girl for a month/year/30 years, the Phases are always the same, just stretched out in time. The entire courtship process ALWAYS progresses in accordance with the MM Model. If you are not getting laid, you are confusing/skipping the Phases. Follow this Model step-by-step. Do not bypass any of the sub-Phases, and do not confuse any Phases, lest you fall into Player Traps #1, #2. The speed at which the final S3 phase can be achieved depends on TARGET’s mindset that night, whether she is with friends or not, your Gaming skills, calibration, experience, & on many other factors. If she is with friends, they might become OBSTACLES. So expect longer Gaming time. Refined Group-Gaming techniques will be required on your part, prepare for STACKING ROUTINES, SET-MERGING, TIME-BRIDGING, DAY2-GAME, etc.
The Game starts long before you even approach a TARGET. It begins with putting yourself into THE STATE, having the correct BL, broadcasting TERRITORIAL confidence, & establishing HIGH SOCIAL VALUE around the venue. Girls can sniff Alpha-males from a mile away. So always strive to display the Alpha-Male CHARACTERISTICS.
The Game is played in COMFORT. Unless a girl’s “Tribal” Survival System feels safe with you, you are not getting anywhere. And if you do get to S3-Phase, it could turn out to be a FOOL’s MATE, she will never talk to you again. Avoid this fate: Alpha-males always play SOLID GAME.
Once you reach COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD, the Game should progress smoothly. To keep a girl coming back for more, ALWAYS GO 100% Comfort post-S3-Phase. Also, avoid building NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE, have a consistent reward/punishment bestowal regimen.
ROCKSTAR-Alpha plays Solid Game. All of the main factors that determine this are manifest: 1) he puts me through all the Stages of the MM Model & all of its sub-Phases correctly, bypassing none; 2) his FRAME CONTROL starts @ 100% and remains in the high 90-%ile range 3) His COMPLIANCE LEVEL starts @ 0% and rises only to ~50% during Comfort for Mutual Compliance; 4) my LMR is @ 0% in both S2- and S3-Phases; 5) I experience 0% Buyer’s Remorse post-Full-Close 6) he avoids all major sequencing mistakes, such as falling into Player Trap #1, #2/Fool’s Mate, LJBF-zone, etc . Thus, ROCKSTAR-Alpha never reverts to Beta-mode. ROCKSTAR-Alpha is a Master Pickup Artist, with only one single MIS-CALIBRATION: he needs to learn how to deal with NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE MODE in LSE-TARGETS by increasing CT-specificity.
Analysis above demonstrates that MM Model is effective & that playing according to this Model is beneficial not only to guys but also to girls. Females will benefit because: 1) now we will have more fun being Gamed by more Alphas!! YEY!!! 2) guys will actually become more loyal/moral/protective – they have to display those Alpha-male characteristics somehow, right? 3) now girls can drastically improve their romantic life & stop chasing guys, i.e. adapt the “FEMALE-FROM-ANOTHER-TRIBE” mentality.
MM also works in other types of relationships: I adapted the “Punish by ignoring/reward by attention” strategy to my son, and now I am living the glorious life of a MILF who has total, absolute, and utter control over her 3-year-old toddler. All his temper tantrums have disappeared; he is like silk in my hands. I am pretty sure you can apply MM to your LTRs or even in corporate world (just lay off SOIs).
So practice in the FIELD as much as you can, CALIBRATE, try various approaches, don’t be afraid to “Crash and Burn”, Sarge alone/ with WINGS, try OPENING 2-SETS, 3-SETS, mixed SETS, learn to get into “THE STATE”, adapt the PSYCHOLOGY of ABUNDANCE, try “VIBING” with people in your daily life. Also, read up on the Mystery Method & the Social Dynamics Theory & other books recommended on the Forum. Get some kickass WINGWOMEN to help you. Attend some Bootcamps, where guys like ROCKSTAR-Alpha teach MM. I tried to give some info on it here, but terminology is much easier to follow if you know what the concepts are & how they are usually applied. You will get laid like a Rock Star, while girls will enjoy all the emotional benefits of getting Gamed by a True Alpha! We WANT you guys to become ALPHA-MALES! We will be ONLY THANKFUL!
The joy from having Solid Game played on me compares to nothing else. My Survival System rewards me for Full-Closing the TOP ALPHA MALE OF THE TRIBE. I know this, because instead of feeling crappy, like I would with a BETA, I feel like I am “on Cloud 9” for three weeks afterwards (and still do). I am full of energy, I laugh easily, and my entire life feels incredible. I do not know how ROCKSTAR-Alpha feels, and hope to God he did not take personally the post-Full-Close ASDefense Mechanism activation + my SSystem’s 100% (albeit Negative) Compliance to his Algorithm. I hope he remembers that, according to Mystery “There’s no rejection, only feedback. It’s NEVER you, it’s NEVER the girl, it’s ALWAYS the Gaming approach. If something goes wrong, you just need to modify your technique/calibrate”.
Mystery put it perfectly: “Being in the FIELD is like playing a video game: if your little man dies, you just hit “Re-Load”. If you don’t – you can’t improve. Get back into the FIELD & try another approach. You can’t enjoy The GAME you are dependent on the outcome, because the best part of it is not the ending, it’s the process itself.”
Happy SARGING, mateys! Party like a ROCK STAR!
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Now Strategy-related QUESTIONS to you guys:
1) Please feel free to correct any percentages, point out my mistakes in analysis & conduct, and bring to my attention things that I missed. MM Gaming theory is always a work in progress. We always need to move forward & improve!!!
2) Mystery says Defiance occurs only up to the COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD. I.e. up to C1. So am I wrong in assuming that NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE CAN occur in C1? I.e. post A1, A2, A3? Please correct me if I am wrong and if due to my SSystem’s Negative Compliance we were actually stuck in A2 the whole time instead of C1? Does that mean my C1, C2, C3 were so short that I didn’t even notice them?
3) Is my definition of NC correct? I.e. that it’s not really Defiance, which is outright NON-Compliance – i.e. the girl is “outta da Game”. I see NC as Compliance which, due to many variables, nevertheless falls in negative range and, therefore, is detrimental to your Game – TARGET complies with your words 100%, but not with your GAME PLAN & thus backtracks your strategy & this f*** everything up.
4) In your opinion/experience is this NC-Mode typical in LSE-Targets? And was ROCKSTAR-Alpha right to use NEGS/IODs instead of what my system needed 2 dissolve NC (Connection/Comfort)? Does this ever work, in your Game?
5) How do you think this whole thing would have played out if he launched me into C2 by using Comfort/Connection-building techniques & cancelling out my NC? Do you think our C2/C3-Phase would have been longer, i.e. we would have made out in the club for like 2 hours?
6) Does ROCKSTAR-Alpha think I rejected him right after sex? Was is he insulted by my coldness & the seeming unwillingness to give any contact information post-Full-Close? Or is his NLP Algorithm a normal way he deals with 1NSs TARGETS? I.e. a way of leaving his TARGETS feeling good about themselves?
7) Does my Electrical Circuit analogy make sense? I was really confused writing it. Still am.
Thank you guys!!!! :PPPP
Indestructible
05-21-2009, 06:49 PM
DEFINITIONS:
AA= Approach Anxiety. An atavistic aspect of tribal mentality. A psychological defense mechanism in guys that usually hinders them from approaching a girl they like for the fear of social consequences (1) lowering his social value through a “crash-and-burn” or (2) “being killed” by her possible “tribal protector-males”. Before contraception was invented, AA was useful in protecting tribal females from being impregnated by an outsider male = lowering Survival Potential of the entire Tribe as a result.
“A”-Stage = ATTRACTION-Stage, includes 3 Phases: A1 (Open), A2 (Female-to-Male Interest), A3 (Male-to-Female Interest).
Alpha-Male = a male who displays high adaptability to any environment due to his perceived High Survival Potential. This is the male, whom all females’ Tribal Survival Systems classify as a desirable mate. Characteristics include: Leader of Men/Pre-selected by women/Protector of the weak/High Morals, Standards/Strong FRAME CONTROL/manifests Confidence by Relaxed BL/Smile/Territory Control.
AFC = Average Frustrated Chump =“Nice guy”/BETA, a male who is classified as “dead” in terms of survival potential & whom females’ Tribal Survival System reject as a mate/put in LJBF-zone.
AFOG = Alpha Female of a particular Group where you are running a SET. There are two types of AFOGs – aggressive & passive. Aggressive AFOGs need to be won over, because they are usually the leader in the HBs group. Her opinion of you will usually influence whether TARGET likes you. Passive AFOG = Female-of-Another-Tribe that you find really attractive, because, unlike other girls in your life, she don’t give you any BS but is always happy & content.
AMOG = Alpha Male of a particular Group where you are running a SET. In a group setting, there is always a dominant person. You have to win them over, or show your SV is higher. This is called out-AMOGing. Out-AMOGING may be accomplished Actively/Aggressively = by laughing louder/being more engaging/interesting than your AMOG-competitor while simultaneously lowering his SV through NEGS, IODs, diverting Group’s attention away from him, etc. Or, it may be accomplished Passively, by asserting your TERRITORY/maintaining STRONG FRAME CONTROL and/or befriending your AMOG-competitor (like, for example, if he is your TARGET’s brother).
ASDefense Mechanism= Anti-Slut Defense. An atavistic aspect of tribal mentality. A psychological defense mechanism all girls have which prevents them expressing their sexuality for the fear of social consequences (dropping their social value/being viewed as promiscuous). Before contraception was invented, ASDefense was useful in preventing unwanted pregnancies = lowering Survival Potential of the entire Tribe as a result.
BL= Body Language.
BR = Buyer’s remorse. An atavistic aspect of tribal mentality. A protective mechanism that exists to ensure TARGET is not stuck raising offspring alone – this was dangerous back in Stone Age. Induces TARGET’s SSystem seek to regain Social-Value post-Full-Close in the hopes of keeping the male around. Occurs when a male leaves TARGET post-S3. May be avoided by putting TARGET in 100% Comfort.
BT= Buying Temperature. A measure of how much a girl wants you/is turned on.
CALIBRATION = fine-tuning your techniques/routines by running them 100s of times on 100s of different girls to gain in-field experience on what works & what doesn’t.
“C”-Stage = COMFORT Stage, includes 3 Phases: C1 (Conversation), C2 (Mutual Compliance/Connection), C3 (Intimacy).
CT=COMPLIANCE TEST = a hoop you give a girl to jump through to gauge her investment into the interaction. This can be a question you want her to answer, an action you want her to undertake, etc. The more CT’s TARGET passes, the higher her Compliance Level.
DEFIANCE = outright NON-COMPLIANCE. Do not confuse with Negative Compliance. Defiance occurs when TARGET’s conduct is DRASTICALLY incongruent with your overall Gaming strategy. She tries (or does) get herself out of the Game completely.
DHV = Demonstration of Higher Value.
DLV = Demonstration of Lower Value.
EC = Eye Contact.
FIELD = anywhere a SARGE is physically conducted – venues/clubs/concerts/bars/coffee shops/department, grocery stores/malls/parks/gyms/DMV/airports, etc.
FOOL’s MATE = when TARGET lets you Full-Close her for other reasons than your SOLID GAME.
FRAME = your personal view of the Universe. This includes your belief that you are an Alpha/Prize & all girls are competing for you.
HAC = Hot Asian Chick.
HB = Hot Babe. A number usually follows “HB” to indicate the level of her
attractiveness to males.
HMS = Hot Metal Stud.
HSE = High Self-Esteem.
HSE-TARGET = High-Self-Esteem TARGET. Girls who have high COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD. Will NEG you back actively in A2/A3. Expect more difficult gaming, but not necessarily longer gaming time as they transition into Comfort more easily than LSE-Targets.
IOD = Indicator of Disinterest. A NEG/disqualifier or withdrawal of attention. You may use IODs to “punish bad behavior”.
IOI = Indicator of Interest. When a girl smiles @ you, touches you, opens up her BL to you. You may, similarly, use IOI’s back at her to “reward good behavior”.
KINO = Kinesthetic/touch. Any kind of romantic physical interaction (hand-holding, hugging, touching, kissing, foreplay, etc).
LJBF = the “Let’s Just Be Friends” zone. When your TARGET classifies you as Beta due to your failure to put her through A1, A2, A3 properly. You fail to convey Indirect Sexual Interest, and fall into her COMFORT zone.
LMR= Last Minute Resistance. An atavistic aspect of tribal mentality. Anxiety that is experienced by a girl right before sex with a new partner. You need to learn to help her overcome this by launching into FREEZE-OUTS. (See MM Book for more explanation)
LSE = Low Self-Esteem.
LSE-TARGET = Low Self-Esteem-TARGET. Girls who have low COMPLIANCE THRESHOLD. IF you over-NEG them, they launch into NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE MODE. DLVing them further will only throw them into Defensive mode. Instead, USE > COMFORT to dissipate this. Expect longer gaming time.
LTR = Long-Term-Relationship.
MLTR = Multiple Long-Term-Relationships.
mPUA = Master Pick-Up Artist.
NEG= der. “negative” - a flirtatious/teasing comment designed to lower target’s perceived SOCIAL VALUE. May also be used to “punish bad behavior”.
1NS = One-night-stand.
NC-Mode = NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE Mode. TARGET’s conduct is SOMEWHAT incongruent with your overall Gaming strategy, but she REMAINS in the Game voluntarily. Occurs when a) you mistakenly punish good behavior. This may be dissipated by rewarding good behavior. b) you mistakenly reward bad behavior (or fail to punish it). This may be dissipated by NEGGING/DHVing/ignoring bad behavior.
NLP = Neuro-Linguistic Programming. Techniques that allow you to attach a certain meaning/emotional state to a gesture, so that when that gesture is randomly used, it evokes a specific emotional response in the TARGET.
OBSTACLE= anyone who could possibly prevent your TARGET from coming home with you.
PAWN = someone you divert your attention to in order to make the TARGET jealous. Pawns may also be used as an audience to exert SOCIAL PRESSURE and increase the effectiveness of your DHV/DLV tactics.
PEACOCKING = An outward display of confidence. Dressing in a manner that shows the world you are an Alpha-male through cool clothes/accessories/hats.
PUA = Pick-Up Artist.
“S” Stage = SEDUCTION Stage, includes 3 Phases: S1 (Staging), S2 (Foreplay), S3 (Sex).
SARGING = going out to practice/improve your Gaming skills.
SOCIAL VALUE = An atavistic aspect of tribal mentality. A person’s perceived position in the hierarchy of the tribe. May be demonstrated in-FIELD through PEACOCKING, strong FRAME /TERRITORIAL CONTROL, having the right BL, VIBING, WILLINGNESS TO WALK AWAY, etc. A HB10 will usually have higher SOCIAL VALUE than an AFC. An Alpha-male gets HB10 by proving her his SV/SOCIAL STATUS is higher than hers.
SOI = Indicator of Sexual Interest. Beware of using them too early in the Game.
SSYSTEM = TRIBAL SURVIVAL SYSTEM = An atavism of tribal era. A survival mechanism that guides females though the courtship process & induces them to select mates with the highest perceived SV. The same mechanism induces her to reject Low-Survival Betas. Dominates females’ emotional circuits to limit error margins.
TARGET= the girl you like.
THE STATE – a positive, high-energy state of body& mind when you feel invincible & everything is possible. You are full of love/fun/optimism/confidence. You are unstoppable. There are many techniques for getting into THE STATE – listening to your favorite music, self-suggestion, or even opening up 3 PRACTICE SETS before the night begins. [Cocaine, Red Bull, Alcohol, other stimulants/depressants/drugs/chemicals should be AVOIDED when playing the Game.]
VIBE/build RAPPORT = to connect naturally with people around you on an emotional level.
WING = a friend who helps you SARGE by elevating your SOCIAL VALUE, influencing the TARGET and neutralizing OBSTACLES.
Frozen Flame
05-22-2009, 07:23 AM
Oh my god!!! Holy shit girl! Fuck.
I've got to learn photo reading first, then I'll reply :)
Indestructible
05-22-2009, 10:54 AM
210Here are some pix of me
1. In Cali - with Kayla Collins, August 2008 Playboy Playmate. I look hotter! :P
2. In someone's H2 Hummer Pulling a Britney
3. Hollywood Blvd. Stars
4. Looking all innocent @ Loch Raven Lake
I will ask ROCKSTAR-Alpha whether i can post a link to his pix/videos so you can see his PEACOCKING/BL.
Indestructible
05-22-2009, 10:57 AM
Thank you, Frozen Flame!!!
Guys! If you think this article is helpful, please do not hesitate to NOMINATE it for Best of the Forum Section!
This way - a lot more guys will be able to access this information and improve their Game!
Wishing you all great Sarging!!!! Party like a Rock Star!!!!
hamadp
05-25-2009, 09:33 AM
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Indestructible
05-25-2009, 11:44 AM
Hey heyyyyyyy! Thanks, man! I really hope it's comprehensible... Haha, and i recognized you! You are the only one who calls me "lovely"!! Hope your day is going great!!!!!! Xoxo...
ThePlayBook
05-26-2009, 07:46 AM
This is all further proof that women actually are along side us guys in the field, learning, earning and burning.
Props for taking the time to type all of that out.
Indestructible
05-26-2009, 07:23 PM
Thank you, ThePlayBook! Yes we are! Girls are scared of guys and rejection, too. No one wants to feel vulnerable! So help us overcome this hell AsDefense imposes on us! Act Alpha! We want a Prince Charming, with high morals/strong Frame control to sweep us off our feet. Betas never lead us, that's why they are classified as Not-Prince-Material.
On a happier note, i got great news! Rockstar-Alpha read this article yesterday, and he says he never read The Game! I suspected he was a natural, but now I'm sure.
This is good news why? Because my article has just described to you how things Unfold NATURALLY in the Field! Remember, I am acting on autopilot the whole time, just like Rockstar-Alpha. Analysis comes later.
So, now you guys have a perfect example of how to NATURALLY game a girl! Mystery Method, like any scientific theory, is just a way to make sense of what is happenning in nature. So, this is yet another incentive for you to follow it to the letter!
I just wrote 2 other reports. Look for them in LR section! :)))
HappySarging!
ThePlayBook
05-26-2009, 08:23 PM
Thank you, ThePlayBook! Yes we are! Girls are scared of guys and rejection, too. No one wants to feel vulnerable!
So ive seen in the raw-est of forms :cool:
Ultimately is it rejection? Or something else? Fear of commitment ;-) hahahha jk jk jk
gabrieldutchie
05-30-2009, 10:55 PM
one question sweety.." how in the hell do you find time to write all of this. i have troubles even writing up one fr.. :D.
nice read, even tho it feels like rocket-science at parts.." i hope some girl will write something on argentinian woman soon, always nice to know how to deal with the hysterica girls down here or shse (super-high self esteem girls with the attention span of a 2 year old).. lol
Indestructible
05-31-2009, 07:56 PM
To THEPLAYBOOK:
Oh, i'm sorry you run into Bitch shields sometimes. It's never personal -remember they are just rejecting your game, not you as a person.
If you proposed marriage to a girl who has been in a relationship with you for 4 years and she said "no" = that's rejection. The girl you talked to for 20 min @ a bar doesn't even know you as a person. That's not rejection = only feedback.
You need to learn how to overcome Bitch Shields. Look @ the word itself: "shield". It is used for protection. = Girls ARE feeling vulnerable.
If we had an equivalent of a girl Jesus Christ, she wouldn't have a Bitch Shield = she would need 0% protection because she loves you for who you are anyways = has 0% inner aggression. I met the Dalai Lama when i was 14. He doesn't have any "shield" toward ANYONE whatsoever.
Learn to view girls (or people in general) who seem to reject you as if they are weak = in need of a "shield". Learn to love them and help them. They are either a) not @ your level of development yet, or b) have not yet realized what a great guy you are. = she doesn't see past superficial level.
To help them realize what a great guy you are, you need to improve your Game/technique/approach. That's all.
I know two guys. Both of them get fucked over by people 80% of the time. (I am guessing that's an average for any person, we all run into assholes sometimes).
However, one of them, HAWK a) has a twinkle in his eye b) is always happy c) always finds 30 postive things to say about the day d) finds ways to forgive and move on.
The second guy JACKAL a) is always expecting MORE ppl to fuck him over (and they do) b) is always angry, c) always finds 30 negative things to say about the day, d) finds ways to wallow in self-pity and blame everything and everybody for his current failures.
JACKAL is ~ 30 years old and may die in a car crash tomorrow (just like me and you can). Now, Jesus lived for ~30 years and was crucified. Car-crashes may be sometimes more painful than crucifixion = you can get stuck in pain/on codeine/life-support for years. ********EDIT: What i am trying to say is: "VALAR MORGULIS" = this means "Men are mortal", we all have to die someday"*******
Which one of them lived a happier life: a) HAWK (and Jesus) or b) JACKAL? ******EDIT:"VALAR DOAHERIS" = this means ~"And if we die, we die. But first, we'll LIVE." "********
You can't take rejection personally, because then you can't be happy = can't move on = can't improve your Game = can't get chicks.
To GABRIELDUTCHIE:
HeyyYY!!!! Oh, i don't write all my LR/FRs in one day: it takes weeks!!! On weekdays, I respond to letters from 9-10pm and then write from 10 to 1-2 am. Wake up at 6:30-7:30. I get ~5 hrs of sleep/night. But i make up for that on weekends by taking naps from 12-2 pm on both Saturday and Sunday. Bill Clinton gets 4 hrs of sleep per night. If you mix that with naps = helps!
*************************** EDIT: Oh, yeah, and i 4got one thing: I DO NOT WATCH TV!!! This frees up ~ 2-4 hrs/day and 6-8/weekends. /EDIT*************
Cheers, mateys,
Have faith in your heart, may all your wishes come true!!!
redneck
06-02-2009, 03:41 PM
Indestructable,
Thanks for the detailed FR. It was insightful and entertaining. I found myself laughing and rooting for ROCKSTAR. You definitely have a way with words.
I do have one question though. If you have low self esteem, how can you be an HB9? I mean isn't HB status as much as a frame of mind as looks? There are girls here where I live that would be HB6-8 in some of the previous cities I've lived and visited, but because they are the best around, they think they are HB9-10. Don't get me wrong, I think you're finer than a frog's hair. Just asking.
Did you experience help you get over that LSE? Have you had any interaction with ROCKSTAR (other than a message letting you know he read the LR)?
Indestructible
06-03-2009, 12:04 AM
Hi, RedNeck!!! Thanks for kind words. They mean a lot to me.
Yeah, i kind of cheered him on myself. He is such a sweetheart!!! You should have seen him!!! My heart bled when i had to walk away!!!
And Yes, we keep in contact with Rockstar-Alpha! He's such a sweetie!
Oh i almost forgot = i have great news: Rockstar-Alpha is willing to teach MM/analyze your Game with me, guys!!!
He will be coming for this purpose to Baltimore beginning June 12th: 1-2 weekends/month.
He will also be running workshops in NY in September. Anyone who is interested may PM me!!! :)))
As far as Self-esteem issue goes: first of all, GUYS view me as HB9. I was told this by my friend WASHINGTON and this was re-confirmed by other guys. I MADE them give me a specific number. They always say HB9.
But inside my head = i am a nerd. It doesnt matter how good i look on the outside = in my mind i still wear glasses/have braces like i did in 9th grade. Gotta work on self-image there.
The only thing that works is auto-suggestion. I stand in front of a mirror every night and morning for 3 min before brushing my teeth and tell myself i am SCORCHING!!!! I raise my fist in the air and tell myself i am smart, capable of anything and UNSTOPPABLE. This is the only method that is working for me so far. (Past 4 weeks) I recommend this to guys who want to feel Alpha.
Secondly, you gotta remember - for girls looks arent as important as they are for guys. We need to feel socially sound in order to have high self esteem. [See my 3rd report on Venom-Alpha = i explain the LADDERS theory in detail]
Girls have two ladders. But to be on Lovers ladder you have to have social skills. That's the most important factor girls look at. They don't care if you look like Adonis (like those hot models in my gym). IF you can't talk/entertain = you are not getting laid.
So, girls judge themselves based on Social Aptitude factor, not on hotness. Their self-esteem is dependent more on how OTHER GIRLS view them, than HOW GUYS view them. (WEIRD, i know, but that's why we buy Versace bags)
I am hot (in guys' eyes), but i don't feel it because i have ZERO Game.
I tried to game girls, (im not bi, but just to see how you guys feel gaming us). I got to A2 and got BLOWN OUT!!! My MIND WENT COMPLETELY BLANK!!!
The blonde-stuck-up bitch who was running after me like a puppy-on-a-leash, bringing me People magazines as alms, sharing her stories, showing me her diamond ring and telling the family history behind it = got off the hook!!! So i know how hard it is for you guys to Game us.
My point is: I am (or was) LSE, because i have zero social skills. And since that's the main determining factor for girls in terms of SE, i was puzzled by your questions @ first. I was baffled as to how guys do not understand this concept.
To guys, appearance is like 80% importance. to girls = 10%. so when you compliment us on how we look, we think: "This guy only likes 10% of us!!! What a jerk!!!!. While YOU are thinking you are gaining 80% in points. That's why it's unadvisable. To gain points, compliment us on our social skills/loyalty to friends/etc.
Now, i see your point about Location. In Kazakhstan (where i am from) all girls are very pretty. Genetically = we are asians with a mix of turcic & russian blood. So there, i am like HB6. Here, in USA, many girls are obese and do not really put makeup on or tight clothes on before they go out to take the trash out. So here, i am HB9. You are right. It all depends on context, i guess.
Thank you for your posts you guys!!! Thank you for taking time and responding!!! I appreciate your questions and hope to God my answers make sense...
BigJohnson
06-03-2009, 11:28 PM
I met the Dalai Lama when i was 14. He doesn't have any "shield" toward ANYONE whatsoever.
One of the many cleansing effects of an enlightened consciousness.
Was he tall?
Indestructible
06-04-2009, 08:14 AM
I agree 100% = enlightened.
The Dalai Lama was not tall @ all. Just a regular Asian guy in GLASSES! You wouldn't know it was the Dalai Lama if you didn't know him by face and if he wasn't wearing the yellow and the red.
HE HAD NO BODY GUARDS!!!! ZERO protection. Shows he believes NOTHING CAN HARM HIM.
In my country, Kazakhstan, the more important you are, the more Bodyguards surround you.
The Dalai dude had just a translator, a couple of disciples, and a manager (holding his tickets = it was at an airport. He was flying from a symposium in my city to a seminar in another Asian country)
He was very warm & sincere towards everyone. Not in your face. He was very tired, but took time to talk to everyone.
It wasn't a life-changing experience 4 me, or anything. Nothing hit me over the head and said: BELIEVE! Nothing crazy or otherworldly emanated from him except for "GOODNESS".
Teachers like that teach by example rather than by trying to impress ppl with power or magic tricks.
rnbsmooth
06-04-2009, 01:47 PM
Wow, I'm impressed. That would of taken a lot of time to jot up, nice work. After reading MM, Revelations was ... well a Revelation. This, and your previous posts, adds that extra layer of understanding. Excellent work, I look forward to any future reports you may post Indestructible.
ThePlayBook
06-04-2009, 06:27 PM
To THEPLAYBOOK:
Oh, i'm sorry you run into Bitch shields sometimes. It's never personal -remember they are just rejecting your game, not you as a person.
If you proposed marriage to a girl who has been in a relationship with you for 4 years and she said "no" = that's rejection. The girl you talked to for 20 min @ a bar doesn't even know you as a person. That's not rejection = only feedback.
You need to learn how to overcome Bitch Shields. Look @ the word itself: "shield". It is used for protection. = Girls ARE feeling vulnerable.
If we had an equivalent of a girl Jesus Christ, she wouldn't have a Bitch Shield = she would need 0% protection because she loves you for who you are anyways = has 0% inner aggression. I met the Dalai Lama when i was 14. He doesn't have any "shield" toward ANYONE whatsoever.
Learn to view girls (or people in general) who seem to reject you as if they are weak = in need of a "shield". Learn to love them and help them. They are either a) not @ your level of development yet, or b) have not yet realized what a great guy you are. = she doesn't see past superficial level.
To help them realize what a great guy you are, you need to improve your Game/technique/approach. That's all.
I know two guys. Both of them get fucked over by people 80% of the time. (I am guessing that's an average for any person, we all run into assholes sometimes).
However, one of them, HAWK a) has a twinkle in his eye b) is always happy c) always finds 30 postive things to say about the day d) finds ways to forgive and move on.
The second guy JACKAL a) is always expecting MORE ppl to fuck him over (and they do) b) is always angry, c) always finds 30 negative things to say about the day, d) finds ways to wallow in self-pity and blame everything and everybody for his current failures.
JACKAL is ~ 30 years old and may die in a car crash tomorrow (just like me and you can). Now, Jesus lived for ~30 years and was crucified. Car-crashes may be sometimes more painful than crucifixion = you can get stuck in pain/on codeine/life-support for years. ********EDIT: What i am trying to say is: "VALAR MORGULIS" = this means "Men are mortal", we all have to die someday"*******
Which one of them lived a happier life: a) HAWK (and Jesus) or b) JACKAL? ******EDIT:"VALAR DOAHERIS" = this means ~"And if we die, we die. But first, we'll LIVE." "********
You can't take rejection personally, because then you can't be happy = can't move on = can't improve your Game = can't get chicks.
What's this?... I made a simple joke and you write me up a in depth report about rejection....crazee
Rejection is not quite the word I use in said cases, cause lets look at the word rejection and some synonyms " refusal, spurning, dismissal, elimination" I like elimination, as its more of a simple yes or no...yes she responds or No she does not respond to my stab ::snapping fingers::"elimination" of that choice like that and time to mingle onward. Why waste the time and effort? Eject..... Not everybody likes the same thing in this world, people have unique tastes, therefore in the 1st place regardless of what game/techniques you have it WILL NOT work 100% of the time. Although on the other hand having yourself finally tuned and conditioned keeps the odds in your favor.
Therefore I cannot be mad if some girl rejects my style, why should I be? I simply move onward.......I do not believe in trying to "prove myself", or any other mind trick of thinking they are weak or not up to my level to cope with rejection....that is totally taking it too deeply. NOW if they are shit talking, then that's when you realize that THEY in fact have the problem and have something against you.(assuming you werent shit talking to begin with;) )
BUT if its a pattern of almost constant rejection then its time to check the blue prints as something may need to be modded. Otherwise a few bad apples is not a reason to get bent out of shape.
BigJohnson
06-04-2009, 11:59 PM
I agree 100% = enlightened.
The Dalai Lama was not tall @ all. Just a regular Asian guy in GLASSES! You wouldn't know it was the Dalai Lama if you didn't know him by face and if he wasn't wearing the yellow and the red.
HE HAD NO BODY GUARDS!!!! ZERO protection. Shows he believes NOTHING CAN HARM HIM.
In my country, Kazakhstan, the more important you are, the more Bodyguards surround you.
The Dalai dude had just a translator, a couple of disciples, and a manager (holding his tickets = it was at an airport. He was flying from a symposium in my city to a seminar in another Asian country)
He was very warm & sincere towards everyone. Not in your face. He was very tired, but took time to talk to everyone.
It wasn't a life-changing experience 4 me, or anything. Nothing hit me over the head and said: BELIEVE! Nothing crazy or otherworldly emanated from him except for "GOODNESS".
Teachers like that teach by example rather than by trying to impress ppl with power or magic tricks.
I would prefer to see American cultuer head toward that direction. A simplistic perspective can unlock the secrets of infinite random complexity.
Chances are an enlightened person, who is devout to its utter humble egotic detatchments will not make a very striking impression on you.
Do you know why? Because enlightment typically happens at an old age.
Youth + an enlightened consciousness = the most passionate relationship you'd ever be a part of. With a young body, comes all the benefits internally and externally.
Indestructible
06-05-2009, 08:19 AM
@ BigJohnson: F***************** MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE AN HMSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!????????????????? YOU CUT YOUR HAIR?????????????? I am going to KILLL YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMGGGGGG YOU WERE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! YOU have to be CRUCIFIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOTTTTTTTTTT METALLLLLLLLLL STUDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!! You ARe coming to the next year's Maryland DEATH-METAL Festival, right??? OMGGGGG, Grow your hairrrrrrrrr out again!!! PLEASEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOu really remind me of my VENOM-Alpha somehow... something in your smile:PPPP
Enlightenment happens at an old age because men begin to direct their sexual energy towards some other ends. (Napoleon Hill’s idea = That is WHY most men become successful after 40). It’s all about KUNDALINI. This is the basic energy that sustains all life and gives us power to achieve goals/perform tasks in life. 1) That is why it is unadvisable to have sex prior to a boxing match = if you are a fighter, you need all of your KUNDALINI. 2) This is also why a lot of artsy people are gay = all of their CREATIVE energy [read: offspring] has been transformed into ART = they cannot be attracted to opposite sex because that would mean procreation = kill their ART. 3) A lot of people have either excess Kundalini = can become addicted to stimulants = cocaine, or low amt of KUNDALINI = can be addicted to depressants = alcohol. 4) A lot of men and women who cannot control their Kundalini become over-indulgent in sex. Hence the Russian Saying: "Losing in Game of cards = Winning in Love". If your career is going good = usually that means your love life will suffer. 5) Nerds (like me) who can go on without sex for a while, can direct their energy into other creative outlets = studying, researching, writing. When i get too much sex, i fail @ math. WEIRD, but true.
@ RnBSmooth: Hey man! Thanks for your reply! WHAT IS REVELATIONS about? I am so curious. Someone on AttractionForum pointed out that MM is outdated. Can you share? I heard it is no longer available online?
@ ThePlayBOOK: Right on! I think "elimination" is the best way to describe it! Thank you!!! YOu are right, i am really thinking too much. I just tried to game a couple of Blonde HB10s in a bar last night with a new guy, SURFER-Alpha. MAN, it's SOOO scary to approach!!! I feel for you guys! I will never act bitchy or aloof EVER AGAIN, because now i know how it feels to want to approach a set and have that sinking feeling in your stomach. I will keep moving on until i am 100% mPUA! 'Elimination" helps not to take it personally = just like my viewpoint. Whatever helps. I think your "Elimination" concept is actually easier to comprehend for most people. But it's all the same thing = move on.
Frozen Flame
06-05-2009, 09:47 AM
Revelation is an eye opening book!!! A MUST READ!
Well it covers... EVERYTHING!
BigJohnson
06-05-2009, 01:32 PM
@ BigJohnson: F***************** MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE AN HMSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!????????????????? YOU CUT YOUR HAIR?????????????? I am going to KILLL YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMGGGGGG YOU WERE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! YOU have to be CRUCIFIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOTTTTTTTTTT METALLLLLLLLLL STUDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!! You ARe coming to the next year's Maryland DEATH-METAL Festival, right??? OMGGGGG, Grow your hairrrrrrrrr out again!!! PLEASEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOu really remind me of my VENOM-Alpha somehow... something in your smile:PPPP
Enlightenment happens at an old age because men begin to direct their sexual energy towards some other ends. (Napoleon Hill’s idea = That is WHY most men become successful after 40). It’s all about KUNDALINI. This is the basic energy that sustains all life and gives us power to achieve goals/perform tasks in life. 1) That is why it is unadvisable to have sex prior to a boxing match = if you are a fighter, you need all of your KUNDALINI. 2) This is also why a lot of artsy people are gay = all of their CREATIVE energy [read: offspring] has been transformed into ART = they cannot be attracted to opposite sex because that would mean procreation = kill their ART. 3) A lot of people have either excess Kundalini = can become addicted to stimulants = cocaine, or low amt of KUNDALINI = can be addicted to depressants = alcohol. 4) A lot of men and women who cannot control their Kundalini become over-indulgent in sex. Hence the Russian Saying: "Losing in Game of cards = Winning in Love". If your career is going good = usually that means your love life will suffer. 5) Nerds (like me) who can go on without sex for a while, can direct their energy into other creative outlets = studying, researching, writing. When i get too much sex, i fail @ math. WEIRD, but true.
Haha the hair has flown past my shoulders again. I knew it would! lol. I didn't even know there was a metal festivus. Those two words together sounds pretty great. I may have to hop on that bandwagon.
I like this kundalini idea. A few things though.
One who sets aside their life to become enlightened has set a false goal. The realization can be achieved in seconds. Once achieved, it is impossible to revert back to old thought patterns. So, maintaining perspective is no longer "work," and your able to redistribute your kundalini into other areas, such as love. To live enlightened without the desire to love, that may be a result of constantly focusing on sharing enlightenment with others. Thereby adhearing to a strict code, or "religion."
Also with artistry in relation to homosexuality. A person who has invested their kundalini in art may no longer capable of love at all. Which may not necessarily make them a homosexual. Because to love any gender is to love someone. Someone who is lost/found in art may not be capable of love with anyone at all. - Except what they create. To experience love = to kill art.
Like you, your very beautiful but you also have a lot of thoughts. A lot of information to give. For now, would you say this is your outlet..?
rnbsmooth
06-05-2009, 04:00 PM
@ RnBSmooth: Hey man! Thanks for your reply! WHAT IS REVELATIONS about? I am so curious. Someone on AttractionForum pointed out that MM is outdated. Can you share? I heard it is no longer available online?
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but MM was written by Mystery in 05 and while containing very valuable information, stuck to a tried and proven formula involving primarily canned material in relation to his M3 model. Revelations, in my oppinion, is the updated book written by Lovedrop, capturing all of MM's previous points and building on it in a more in-depth and informative yet explaining things in a simpler tone that not only covers all of MM, but builds on all the points covered exponentially. Basically, Revelations in my oppinion, should be considered the bible in all things pickup at the moment.
azazels_wolf
06-05-2009, 11:52 PM
Yeah, see the FAQ (on the black bar near the top of the page) for MM vs. Revelation.
Indestructible:
There is no such thing as "excess kundalini". There are really four things that can happen with sexual energy:
1) It gets drained through normal orgasm, whether this be through sex or masturbation. The quick burst of pleasure is kundalini being activated and then falling asleep again due to the release of sexual energy. This can have a lot of negative effects on a person and their health, especially as they get older.
2) It builds up without being sublimated.... resulting in sexual frustration and negative manifestations, like violence
3) It builds up but is subsequently sublimated into creative projects, intellectual pursuits, etc.
4) It builds up and via special techniques is transmuted into its refined and pure form (which is kundalini) which is made to rise up the spine. This is what occurs during tantric sex and results in an orgasm many many times stronger than any other sexual experience. This is an orgasm in which energy is not drained, allowing for kundalini to continue to move up the spine and through the body as a stream of healing Light and Love.... i.e. full-body energy orgasm that can continue for hours. Not only is this extremely pleasurable and healing, but also brings enlightenment and what some call "cosmic consciousness" or "Christ consciousness". Words cannot begin to describe.
Frozen Flame
06-06-2009, 03:01 AM
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but MM was written by Mystery in 05 and while containing very valuable information, stuck to a tried and proven formula involving primarily canned material in relation to his M3 model. Revelations, in my oppinion, is the updated book written by Lovedrop, capturing all of MM's previous points and building on it in a more in-depth and informative yet explaining things in a simpler tone that not only covers all of MM, but builds on all the points covered exponentially. Basically, Revelations in my oppinion, should be considered the bible in all things pickup at the moment.
The only thing it doesn't cover is kino... But you have Kiss The Girl.
BigJohnson
06-06-2009, 01:46 PM
Yeah, see the FAQ (on the black bar near the top of the page) for MM vs. Revelation.
Indestructible:
There is no such thing as "excess kundalini". There are really four things that can happen with sexual energy:
1) It gets drained through normal orgasm, whether this be through sex or masturbation. The quick burst of pleasure is kundalini being activated and then falling asleep again due to the release of sexual energy. This can have a lot of negative effects on a person and their health, especially as they get older.
2) It builds up without being sublimated.... resulting in sexual frustration and negative manifestations, like violence
3) It builds up but is subsequently sublimated into creative projects, intellectual pursuits, etc.
4) It builds up and via special techniques is transmuted into its refined and pure form (which is kundalini) which is made to rise up the spine. This is what occurs during tantric sex and results in an orgasm many many times stronger than any other sexual experience. This is an orgasm in which energy is not drained, allowing for kundalini to continue to move up the spine and through the body as a stream of healing Light and Love.... i.e. full-body energy orgasm that can continue for hours. Not only is this extremely pleasurable and healing, but also brings enlightenment and what some call "cosmic consciousness" or "Christ consciousness". Words cannot begin to describe.
This is fantastic. During sex there is a period where you elevate to an extremely conscious level. I have experienced this. Now that you make light of it, it seems to be another very powerful form of attaining enlightenment. That unnamed feeling of "cosmic consciousness" is felt within, through your sexual partner, expanding throughout everything sensable both immeadiate and infinite. In this state of bliss, the mind is literally lifted and set onto cloud nine for a vacation, while true consciousness prevails streaming so clearly.
Is kundalini only sexual energy? Or is it an energy that sets one on the path toward enlightenment, release, or "something more?"
azazels_wolf
06-07-2009, 02:24 AM
This is fantastic. During sex there is a period where you elevate to an extremely conscious level. I have experienced this. Now that you make light of it, it seems to be another very powerful form of attaining enlightenment.
Most definitely.
That unnamed feeling of "cosmic consciousness" is felt within, through your sexual partner, expanding throughout everything sensable both immeadiate and infinite. In this state of bliss, the mind is literally lifted and set onto cloud nine for a vacation, while true consciousness prevails streaming so clearly.
Yes, but this state is usually cut short during sex via ejaculation (or genital orgasm for women) and not taken to the height of its true potential. Through tantric sex or "sexual alchemy", this state is prolonged and raised even higher, resulting in a true bliss and enlightened state that can be prolonged indefinitely (many hours if desired) without exhaustion, and experienced mutually. It is revitalizing and strengthening on all levels, and the healing force is immense.
Is kundalini only sexual energy? Or is it an energy that sets one on the path toward enlightenment, release, or "something more?"
It is the purest, most refined sexual energy.... It IS the path to enlightenment and release from Samsara. It is grace and redemption and healing in its true form. It is what some call the "Holy Spirit". It is serpent fire that brings a myraid of powers and insight, and is Pure Love and Light. It is the direct personal experience of the divine - gnosis.
BigJohnson
06-07-2009, 10:48 AM
Most definitely.
Yes, but this state is usually cut short during sex via ejaculation (or genital orgasm for women) and not taken to the height of its true potential. Through tantric sex or "sexual alchemy", this state is prolonged and raised even higher, resulting in a true bliss and enlightened state that can be prolonged indefinitely (many hours if desired) without exhaustion, and experienced mutually. It is revitalizing and strengthening on all levels, and the healing force is immense.
Hm yes I've heard the term "tantric arts" but I'm unfamiliar with its practice. Next to this concept, enlightenment through meditation seems somewhat primitive. I mean, a conscious meditative state + all the inner workings of sexual experience. It makes sex sort of a gateway, or portal of some kind.
It is the purest, most refined sexual energy.... It IS the path to enlightenment and release from Samsara. It is grace and redemption and healing in its true form. It is what some call the "Holy Spirit". It is serpent fire that brings a myraid of powers and insight, and is Pure Love and Light. It is the direct personal experience of the divine - gnosis.
I see, so would you consider enlightenment through meditation a lesser form of realization? Although the deep truth is revealed, perhaps meditation cannot provide as much of enlightenments full potential.
It is the purest, most refined sexual energy.... It IS the path to enlightenment and release from Samsara. It is grace and redemption and healing in its true form. It is what some call the "Holy Spirit". It is serpent fire that brings a myraid of powers and insight, and is Pure Love and Light. It is the direct personal experience of the divine - gnosis.
This is very interesting. It is also very evident.
Sex is a great way to pass enlightenment to another person. I guess this is why people are considered "good in bed." They are able bring their partner to a place where only unity exists, timelessness, infinity. Who you are in the matereal world seises to exist until you to sleep. Women who "let go" or "release into the moment" flow passion, and I'm inclined to do the same.
Once you have experienced this state, or rather, "allowed it to happen" Have you noticed that you are able to bring it's presense to light at any point in time? Walking down the street, talking to people, admiring nature, anything. I've noticed, in that state, your are present, you really are 100% and full, and its ironic how simple bliss is, but the simplicity brings so much more than "mind concepts" could ever touch. Even when you are not actively making light of it, you can still see it in the background. It's still, yet is just completely overflowing with existance.
azazels_wolf
06-08-2009, 06:52 AM
Hm yes I've heard the term "tantric arts" but I'm unfamiliar with its practice. Next to this concept, enlightenment through meditation seems somewhat primitive. I mean, a conscious meditative state + all the inner workings of sexual experience.
Meditation is a necessary pre-requisite, a preparation.
And yes, the tantric arts are ultimately about a meditative sexual experience that leads to the ultimate orgasmic experience. It is spiritual sex, soul sex.
It makes sex sort of a gateway, or portal of some kind.
Exactly. The fastest gateway to enlightenment. The most direct path.
I see, so would you consider enlightenment through meditation a lesser form of realization? Although the deep truth is revealed, perhaps meditation cannot provide as much of enlightenments full potential.
Some say that the ultimate potential and true bliss can only be realized with a partner.... and I have found that to be true, personally.
This is the true secret of the Garden of Eden, btw. The return to paradise. It's not just a metaphor, as you were mentioning previously. It's very real.
This is very interesting. It is also very evident.
Sex is a great way to pass enlightenment to another person.
Yes. Once you have experienced it yourself and become proficient, you can teach others to achieve the same with you or other partners.
I guess this is why people are considered "good in bed." They are able bring their partner to a place where only unity exists, timelessness, infinity. Who you are in the matereal world seises to exist until you to sleep. Women who "let go" or "release into the moment" flow passion, and I'm inclined to do the same.
Right. Though few ever experience the true height of this state.... imagine having an orgasm that doesn't end until you want it to, or stacking bigger and bigger orgasms until you are completely fulfilled and your body seems to be full of Light, rather than drained? And these would be felt in your heart and all over your body...
Once you have experienced this state, or rather, "allowed it to happen" Have you noticed that you are able to bring it's presense to light at any point in time? Walking down the street, talking to people, admiring nature, anything.
The state of consciousness itself.... yes, not its ultimate height, but close to it. This especially becomes possible once you've experienced it multiple times, especially on a frequent basis.
The physical and energetic sensations that go along with it, i.e. the orgasmic bliss.... only if I am able to tap into a partner's energy via a spiritual connection. Not on my own to that extent.
I've noticed, in that state, your are present, you really are 100% and full, and its ironic how simple bliss is, but the simplicity brings so much more than "mind concepts" could ever touch. Even when you are not actively making light of it, you can still see it in the background. It's still, yet is just completely overflowing with existance.
Yes, it is pure Being.... but these spiritual sexual practices allow you to uncover the state of Light and Love that we originally came from, our true state... not just pure consciousness, but also the most pure love that you could imagine.
BigJohnson
06-08-2009, 12:00 PM
Meditation is a necessary pre-requisite, a preparation.
And yes, the tantric arts are ultimately about a meditative sexual experience that leads to the ultimate orgasmic experience. It is spiritual sex, soul sex.
Ah yes, I see what you are saying. Meditation can elevate you to the state of awareness of consciousness. While sexual experience acts as the empowering of consciousness. Combining external universal awareness with internal physical and spiritual bliss.
Some say that the ultimate potential and true bliss can only be realized with a partner.... and I have found that to be true, personally.
This is the true secret of the Garden of Eden, btw. The return to paradise. It's not just a metaphor, as you were mentioning previously. It's very real.
I know your correct. I've experienced a glimpse into this return to paradise. Although I haven't found a home there just yet.. I'm going to do a bit of reading on the tantirc arts, and give my lady a ring.
Right. Though few ever experience the true height of this state.... imagine having an orgasm that doesn't end until you want it to, or stacking bigger and bigger orgasms until you are completely fulfilled and your body seems to be full of Light, rather than drained? And these would be felt in your heart and all over your body...
This right here really took me. I must experience this. By the way it reads it sounds like a form of physical discipline.. But I'm guessing its more soul derivitive? Tapping into presence, or reaching an enlightened state, while tapping into your partner's being, through that, comes the control of sexual energy?
The state of consciousness itself.... yes, not its ultimate height, but close to it. This especially becomes possible once you've experienced it multiple times, especially on a frequent basis.
The physical and energetic sensations that go along with it, i.e. the orgasmic bliss.... only if I am able to tap into a partner's energy via a spiritual connection. Not on my own to that extent.
Yes, it is pure Being.... but these spiritual sexual practices allow you to uncover the state of Light and Love that we originally came from, our true state... not just pure consciousness, but also the most pure love that you could imagine.
Hmm yes. So far the major physical differences I've felt with consciousness awareness are numbing of the limbs, and eventually being completely unaware of any body at all. This is startling, and it actually increases my heart rate. Perhaps, with this sensation comes the openness to gather the essence of your partner, making two into one. Just imagining the potential for this sensation gives me goosebumps.
I can't wait for tonight. Thanks for all your insight AW. :D
azazels_wolf
06-09-2009, 06:37 AM
Ah yes, I see what you are saying. Meditation can elevate you to the state of awareness of consciousness. While sexual experience acts as the empowering of consciousness. Combining external universal awareness with internal physical and spiritual bliss.
Yeah, plus the meditation also helps one to develop the focus, self-control, self-knowledge, and energetic sensitivities that are necessary to perform it successfully.
I know your correct. I've experienced a glimpse into this return to paradise. Although I haven't found a home there just yet.. I'm going to do a bit of reading on the tantirc arts, and give my lady a ring.
To be able to dwell there for any period of time is well worth it.
This right here really took me. I must experience this.
Best experience in the world!
By the way it reads it sounds like a form of physical discipline..
You do need to have some physical discipline - if you ejaculate, your fun will be over. You won't reach the heightened state. You also need to slow way down. There are ways to facilitate this - look into the yab-yum position, it is perfect for allowing this extended contact while facilitating an energetic flow and connection with your lover.
Breathing is also a big factor (taking energy in, and breathing it out, especially if you two can coordinate it), and you can also use touch to guide the energy.
But I'm guessing its more soul derivitive? Tapping into presence, or reaching an enlightened state, while tapping into your partner's being, through that, comes the control of sexual energy?
You have to be very aware of your inner state, while also reaching out to your partner... it's a surrender state.
Hmm yes. So far the major physical differences I've felt with consciousness awareness are numbing of the limbs, and eventually being completely unaware of any body at all. This is startling, and it actually increases my heart rate. Perhaps, with this sensation comes the openness to gather the essence of your partner, making two into one. Just imagining the potential for this sensation gives me goosebumps.
At first you'll be feeling it very much within your body, but eventually the sensation becomes so pure that you are focused 100% on the energy itself, and not your body. So yes, eventually you'll be aware of only the energy coursing through you, rather than your physical body itself.
I can't wait for tonight. Thanks for all your insight AW. :D
You're welcome. You'll really enjoy this once you get there.
Karmacide
06-09-2009, 02:12 PM
Wow. Great stuff, Inde. I felt the frustration as he pinged back and forth from C1/2 to A2/3. I'm a newb at this stuff. I don't do a lot of cold approaches yet but this is a great diagram.
You're def right about one thing: you're a nerd. Only a nerd could break this thing down the way you did. Nerd girls are hot.
Indestructible
06-15-2009, 06:04 AM
Wow you guys. Turns out I am not subscribed to this thread. Havent been receiving all this in my inbox.
1) RnBSmooth = I will look into Revelations = thanks for pointing that out. Yes, I do feel MM is kind of outdated in terms of stacking. I was listening to LoveDrop, and I agree = that’s why achieving the STATE is the most important part of pickup = because then one just does what is natural, instead of relying on routines/stacking as crutches. You basically become that Alpha-male and you do everything right without thinking about it. Thank you for this vital piece of information.
2) And this goes together with what BigJohnson and I were talking about = all vital energy is sexual in its nature. I just wanted to elaborate, because i don't think i was totally clearly expressing this idea. So it's not in a sense of lust, but rather in the sense that it is CREATIVE ENERGY to start with. Thanks, Azazels_Wolf for pointing out that it gets distributed & sublimated in other forms depending on the purpose = art, love, emotions, work, violence, etc. That was a very precise way to explain it = KUNDALINI should be preserved and transmuted.
I heard that things that we are attracted to = ANYTHING we REALLY REALLY REALLY like = be it a slick car design, nature, a great painting, or a hot girl = also take up this energy. Same for AVERSION = when he hate someone or feel disgusted by some ugly thing = it takes up NRG. That’s why to be in the perfect state means = to feel NEITHER ATTRACTION NOR AVERSION to ANYTHING in life = Preserve KUNDALINI for higher purposes, like enlightenment.
Currently, listening to LOVEDROP’s idea of being a GHOST = this makes total sense. When attracting women, you have to act unaffected by ANYTHING. Be it compliments or negs – be it by her, by other AMOGS, ppl around you, etc. You have your own value. So if you are like Buddha or Jesus = out of the MATRIX, have perfectly distributed your KUNDALINI = you will attract more girls.
3) BigJohnson = 100% on the spot = I agree you elaborated perfectly on relation of art and homosexuality. Yes, they are no longer capable of loving others in a conventional sense. However, what I was referring to is = in CASE they STILL are capable of having a partner to love, the VERY fact that their PARTNER has to be of the SAME sex shows that Creative energy is flowing into an outlet other than procreation.
Nevertheless, you are right in that TOTAL GENIUSES are incapable of maintaining a normal relationship as we see it = they are completely invested in their art/work. And you JUST gave a perfect example of this, too = MM IS my outlet = I really feel TOTALLY unattached to all the guys I am dating. I cannot even feel anything towards my son lately. It’s scary.
Because all I think about 24/7 is MM. I was having sex with a friend of mine who I am currently teaching pickup. We were Sarging all day, he was opening sets with HOTTEST girls, successfully, but got blown out a couple of times. The whole evening, I just kept analyzing his game that day. Right after we were done having sex, I went into a prolonged discussion on how he was skipping A2 & gave him pointers on how to game girls right. He listened, of course, but then, he was, like, WHOA, you are a f***ing genius. I am not genius – I just think about this stuff ALL THE TIME.
I can’t feel that connection during sex = so I don’t know what you guys are talking about – that higher level of consciousness. I think felt it only once during sex and that was with my PORNSTAR-Alpha… One of my clients whom I am teaching Pickup pointed out that I am the new TYLER DRUDEN. *scary*
It’s really unhealthy, because during sex = or during ANY other normal interaction (other than conversation) = I cannot seem to CONNECT to people. You are 100% right = MM is where my KUNDALINI is flowing now. This is what WORKAHOLICS and ARTISTS feel = they are sublimating it into things other than procreation and can’t feel ANYTHING towards people. However, again, I want to stress my earlier point = my energy IS getting sublimated into homosexuality = lately, I am attracted to girls. So it’s NOT like I am invested in MM 100%, like a genius would. But my energy is still flowing into homosexuality now.
4) Questions: Azazels_Wolf, can you please elaborate on the idea of Paradise and Lost Garden. Why does it have to be achieved with a partner? All enlightened ppl seemed to have achieved it on their own? You said that Tantric Sex empowers and Meditation puts us in the awareness of higher STATE. What are other aspects/paths in which this State may be achieved? Like, do ppl HAVE to practice Tantric Sex, or are there other ways to get empowerment like that?
BTW, thank you for elaborating on the importance of BREATHING Techniques & meditation (AND I think that training yourself to be UNATTACHED TO OUTCOME in social interactions/work also plays a HUGE part here).
I achieved this state only twice = when meditating. Both times = perfect JOY, TRUST, and LOVE. Perfectly out of the body = as you said. I literally cried AFTER the second time = just because I was so happy that this state exists and that Higher Power is there and lets us live and experience life. (And I almost never cry = I do like once a year, or when someone dies).
The way I see it = these are all different paths to achieve the same goal = “The STATE of LIGHT and LOVE”? What I am interested in – is how guys can achieve this state to APPLY it IN-FIELD. I mean, some of them are completely without a partner, so they can’t have tantric sex to open up their Chakras.
Like, my ROOT Chakra is closed 81% - I don’t feel at ease in social situations. It was advised to me to do a lot of physical exercise to open this chakra up. It helped (in combination with breathing techniques). Do you think that physical exercise = exertion of a body to a point of total exhaustion can also be one of the ways? What are your thoughts on Chakras (being closed/open) and their relation to success in THE Game = or in life, in general?
5) Also, reading THE GAME = it was mentioned that SLEEP DEPRIVATION was how Mystery tried to enhance the effects of tantric sex (or something along those lines). What are your thoughts on this? I.e. deprivation of the body of it’s natural needs = for rest, for sleep, for food (fasting)? It seems enlightened people used all these instead of Tantric Sex? It seems to me, these practices are of the SAME NATURE as Tantric Sex = i.e. are they used to empower. I would say, meditation stands APART from these practices, because, as you said, it has to do more with AWARENESS = so with mind, rather than body? Is tantric sex closer to meditation than these practices = because, I am assuming, if it IS shared with a partner, there’s a chance of connection, rather than solitude. Maybe Tantric sex is at a completely other end of the spectrum, because while Meditation deals with the mind, and fasting/sleep deprivation deal with the body = sex deals more with Connection/Love aspects of the Divine?
6) And YEY, BigJohnson your hair is long again!!!!!!!! HOTTTTTTTTTT!!!! :PPP And haha, Karmacide = i am a nerd. Dammit. :PPP
Karmacide
06-15-2009, 08:33 AM
I like your style of training. Where do I sign up?
Karmacide
06-15-2009, 10:48 AM
Oh, and one other questions regarding moving around during the S3 stage. I'm assuming you two stayed in the same room, right? Was this a matter of doing it on the bed for a while, then leaning against a wall, etc.? Can you elaborate?
azazels_wolf
06-16-2009, 06:52 AM
Indestructible:
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You are far too much in your own head lately, submerged completely in analysis and thought. Not only is this impacting your ability to feel anything, but it's ruining your ability to connect with others, which is a very important part of game.... as you say, it's unhealthy for you.
You should try to stop thinking for awhile, as much as you can. Don't analyze everything. Just Be. If you are thinking of nothing but Game all the time, you will become a social robot.
As for your questions.... I would prefer to take that to PM. So feel free to ask me your questions in PM, in a more organized manner if at all possible, and I will get back to you on that.
Indestructible
06-16-2009, 07:11 AM
@ azazels_wolf: Oh thanks for the thread pointer!
You are 100% right. I should stop thinking and start living. It's so hard though. I will PM you with my questions on ways to stop the consciousness. Thanks for your time!
@ Karmacide: S3 = moved around the bed = we were actually on the blankets on the floor in the band room with a lot of musical equipment, haha. That added interest though. Like i would be upside down = not where pillows are supposed to be. Then, kind of across. Then = in the upright position again = how people normally sleep - head on pillows. But you can move her all over the place = against the wall = but ONLY if you feel like she would feel comfortable.
Crowster
06-17-2009, 12:41 AM
I sorta skipped through the posts after the very first one by Indestructible and responded here to point out that I copied the whole LR onto MS Word. 69 pages.
That's like a handbook....
I'll read this at the gym tonight then I'll come back and read the rest of the posts.
But really, I have never seen such a detailed breakdown in an LR like yours Indestructible!
Crow
Darwin001
06-20-2009, 02:42 PM
I stayed up ALL night reading this field report because it absoluetly blew my mind. I feel you read an entirely differnt version of MM because your comprehension of the material is almost godly. I´ll never look at the book the same way again, now I view it as a Bible.
It was incredible to see into the thoughts of the female in the PU and you had some Incredible insights and analyzations but there were some things that I Completely disagree with.
Three IOIs before approaching, I think this is a very bad mindset to have because it will give AA another reason not to approach and getting IOIs before conveying your identity has nothing to do with being a pick up artist on a fundamental level, although you can be dressed nice and have a good Avatar or Social Proof but really I´m wondering where you learned this concept specifically. I know Mystery says 3 IOIs before kissing, but before approaching...
Are you sure Rockstar-Alpha is a natural, I find it very hard to believe, how could he teach workshops efficiently if he didnt know game overtly. He hasn´t read the Game but It sounds like he MUST be part of the community.
Great Post, It was so intense and lengthy I feel like I´ll be reading and rereading it for a very long time because of its Insight and lessons
Indestructible
11-15-2009, 03:29 PM
Thank you so much, Darwin 001! I really appreciate it that you guys take the time to compliment me on my work... You guys inspire me so much! Thanks for reading this, I know it's boring some of the time. But I believe it is useful.
Yes, now that I have more field experience, i agree with you: it's not necessary to wait for 3 IOIs. Better to follow the 3-second rule. I do that when I open girls now = always walk by, always over-the-shoulder, and always within 3 seconds!!! We, girls are much more aware of the people in the environment, their moods, their mindset. So if we see a guy hesitating, - or what we perceive as hesitance if he is waiting for 3 IOIs - then he loses the advantage of spontaneous approach.
Again, thank you for all of your comments,
Happy Sarging!!!
Frozen Flame
11-16-2009, 07:00 AM
Heeeeeey whazzzzzup! Glad you're still alive ;)
We, girls are much more aware of the people in the environment, their moods, their mindset. So if we see a guy hesitating, - or what we perceive as hesitance if he is waiting for 3 IOIs - then he loses the advantage of spontaneous approach.
And if you also see a guy walking a long distance to you, and then opening you over the shoulder and indirect, you perceive him as lower value because you are aware of his actions before opening. So sometimes you shouldn't open indirect... If you are a value giver with good subcommunications, you can open indirect or direct, it doesn't matter.
THE MOMENT YOU ENTER THE ROOM, YOU'VE ALREADY OPENED EVERYONE
Wahooka
11-16-2009, 12:59 PM
Interesting post, Indestructible, very detailed. I have some follow-up questions:
1. I noticed during the comfort stage, you expected to learn a lot about the guy and his life, and have him show some feelings and vulnerability. He seemed to connect with you by revealing a lot about himself and asking a lot about you. There are some PUAs such as David Deangelo who recommend you dont ever share feelings until way into sexual the relationship, and he sometimes doesnt even tell the woman what he does for a living. What do you think of this idea? Isn't it AFC to share feelings too soon or become vulnerable too soon?
2. What is evolution phaseshift?
3. Did you ever perceive the alpha's push/pull and evasive tactics as being too cocky or too indifferent. Is evasiveness ever a turn off for you? Do you ever see it as manipulation?
4. So he made you wait a minute before actually having sex... what was he doing during that minute? Just staring into space? I'd like to try that sometime but don't really know what to do when you take the escalation away from her,.. just lie back and ignore her? Would be even weirder to stare at her or something.. Not sure how to naturally pull that technique off..
5. You said your LMR was at zero percent, because of how skilled the alpha was. Does this mean that if I'm getting a lot of LMR in my dating life, it might be a result of something I'm doing wrong in advance, such as not showing enough value? I always seem to get the "i want to wait cause I want a relationship with you" excuse..
Thanks..
Karmacide
11-17-2009, 01:17 PM
Wow, it's been a while since this thread was posted to. I've come a long way since then. Funny to see my post asking about sexual positions in the S3 location. I've had sex in some crazy places since then, LOL.
I also discovered I don't break things down in my head so much like you do. I realized that PU is an emotional process with a somewhat linear progression but it's never the same twice. I used to wonder how should I react to certain situations and that would trip me up. A friend of mine put it rather succinctly to me: Alphas don't react to situations, they handle them.
Frozen Flame
11-17-2009, 01:53 PM
I found my new signature :D love the quote.
cottoncandy
11-20-2009, 11:14 AM
s3 phase was dead on and hot
peliom
11-29-2009, 07:21 PM
Indestructible, thanks so much for writing this up, I am recently separated and your article has inspired me to get back into The Game. I totally agree this stuff should be taught in 9th grade, the world would be such a happier place. As for your son I'm jealous ... if only my mom was a genius PUA such as yourself :-)
Indestructible
01-05-2010, 04:32 PM
@ Frozen Flame:
I apologize for this confusion, I didn't realize what each term meant when I was writing this FReport.
Yes, 100% true. The moment a guy walks into a room, we already know if he is Alpha or Beta.
Within like 60-70 seconds.
Always move in zigzags. Never in a straight line!
Indirect should not be confused with immediate. Immediate opening CAN be indirect.
Immediate means you open her right away, without waiting for IOIs on her part.
Direct means = hitting on her right away: You are hot, wanna come back to my hotel room?
Indirect just means = you are NOT DISPLAYING ANY SEXUAL INTEREST IN HER AT FIRST UNTIL SHE QUALIFIES.
You are just negging, DHVing and talking about neutral but interesting subjects to make her invest first.
@ Wahooka:
1. Nothing you do will be perceived as AFC if you are Alpha.
You don't have to share your GENUINE feelings with a girl until you are safe she will accept you for who you are.
That's what they meant by not sharing feelings at first.
But you still have to LEARN TO EMOTE. I.e. create the ILLUSION that you are falling for her.
It's not lying, it's flirting.
These masters are right: You don't have to let a girl into your life, until you are sure she won't reject you.
She doesn't need to know what you do for a living, for that would make it easy for her to classify you.
And if your job or position in the world is all she is after, then she is not worth your time.
Don't lie, but make her guess and guess and guess. And laugh at her guesses, and play with her, and tease.
It's all a game!
2. Evolution Phaseshift is when you switch to Caveman mode and begin to basically take control.
Not in a scary-rapist kind of way, but in an Alpha-male way. Look it up.
3.Yes. If an Alpha overdoes it in terms of ignoring me, WITHOUT HOOKING MY INTEREST FIRST, I just leave him be.
But then again, I am an LSE target. Many other girls might not be wired like me, and might begin chasing.
The key here is not to OVERNEG and avoid OVER-IGNORING.
Push-pull is there to demonstrate ACTIVE DISINTEREST. NOT PASSIVE INDIFFERENCE.
4. I was just laying there staring into his eyes and he in mine. Don't ignore her, silly!
Why punish for compliance, if you got this far?
Just pull back and stare into her eyes and be silent for a second.
As if sex is something really special you share only with very special people. This will make her feel VERY SPECIAL.
5. Yes. Exactly. All LMR means is that your skills need calibration. It has nothing to do with you.
If you are getting that, you just are in the Friendz Zone. Find ways to get out of it. DHV some more, exactly!
@ Karmacide: Thank you! I realized that was my mistake: I was analyzing too much and not feeling.
Since I have learned to connect with people emotionally, Game is much easier.
@ Frozen Flame: Damn skippy! :)))
@ CottonCandy: Tell me about it! :)))
@ Peliom: You are very welcome! I hope your journey is only beginning! And yes, my son is only 4, but he already had 3 girlfriends in his daycare center.
Such a little womanizer I am raising. At least, he won't suffer in that area of his life. I think many guys would have lead much happier lives if their parents taught them PickUP!
Frozen Flame
01-06-2010, 03:01 AM
Zig zags????? What the hell! That,s not alpha at all.
You remind me of myself fwe months ago, when I thought that nothing but indirect Mystery Method works. I'm afraid there is a bunch of wrong advice here. Let's wait for some more experoenced members to reply. Watch this http://www.the21convention.com/2009/09/08/dj-fuji-t21c-2009/ and tell me what you think Ind.
Indestructible
01-07-2010, 06:03 AM
I meant: never move in a straight line through a venue.
Even in your VIDEO, Mehow is ALWAYS MOVING. Not in a straight line, but kind of like this
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Get it?
:)
Frozen Flame
01-07-2010, 08:56 AM
That's Fuji btw, not Mehow...
Does \/\/\/\ subcommunicate dominance and confidnece? Of course not.
Indestructible
01-07-2010, 02:27 PM
/\/\/\/\/\/ Conveys ELUSIVENESS.
READ: FTC = FALSE TIME CONSTRAINT.
Read: Non-neediness.
Read: Pre-selection.
If you are constantly ELUDING her, her SSystem thinks: OMG, this guy must be Alpha.
He is eluding me, because so many girls like me are after his resources.
He is the leader of the tribe with many mammoths killed to eat!
/\/\/\/\/\/ Conveys also that you are not Beta.
Betas stand in one spot and lean in towards the girl. (or the audience, in this case).
Betas give out the vibe that they are AFTER HER replication VALUE. (or the attention of the audience)
Betas convey the neediness.
Alpha conveys none of those.
Alpha knows his value.
Everyone is after his value.
Therefore, he ELUDES. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
He is moving away then back again.
He is all over the place.
****
This doesn't mean he doesn't sometimes stand still - when needed.
Yet even when he does, his SOLAR PLEXUS is always turning in an arc.
To the left, then striaght, then to the right. Then straight again.
Alphas NEVER FULLY ALIGN THEIR SOLAR PLEXI with a Girl's Solar Plexus - at least not for long.
They always stand at an angle.
It is a non-verbal FTC = FALSE TIME CONSTRAINT.
Next time you see an Alpha in-field, observe their BODY LANGUAGE.
To a girl, what you say doesn't really matter.
Body Language is 80% of the Game.
Frozen Flame
01-08-2010, 04:02 AM
I wish you could go and field test direct game. The problem with pure indirect is that you aren't giving any emotional value. Direct does give emotional value and therefore hooks sets better And I realised that in order to make IODs aka takeaways work better, you must give value first.
Indirect is just one style of game, and that doesn't mean others don't work. And of course "You're hot blah blah blah" is not direct game - it's AFC game.
"Always keep her suspended between hope and doubt" - Lovedrop. That means your IOI to IOD ratio should be 1:1. If you have direct body language and opener it doesnt subcomunicate un-neediness which is related to preselection, but also doesn't subcommunicate neediness if delivered corectly (e.g. without leaning in). Direct conways more alphaness, confidence, and dominance but relies more on your delivery.
I'm too lazy to write more... see ya.
Frank T J Mackey
09-23-2010, 05:53 AM
Indeed.FTJM
yuppaz01
05-04-2011, 01:08 PM
You seem like a really sweet girl, so please don't take this the wrong way. What you are posting about your lay report is so so so so so over thought. From the start, you were attracted to the guy, he looked good to you and he had social proof as a rocker with his band. You probably dig rocker guys. You admitted you squeeled when he said or did, something. This dude didn't have amazing amazing game, but he did have some. You were really turned on by his vibe and you ignored his disrespect because as you admit you have low self esteem (which I hope that you do realize you are an amazing person) and because you were so into him. I get this kind of thing from girls and the fact that you showed your cards so quickly was very encouraging to the guy. What he did with your glass when you said you'll be right back was him showing you who was in control and he didn't want to be a little puppy waiting around guarding your stuff waiting for you. I do the same any time a girl leaves when we are talking, if she's into me she can find me later. Why why why why why why go through all this when the reality is that at the end of the day you were turned on by the guy, he didn't act like a chump and even though he showed some weakness he still lead things to the bedroom. It's called chemistry and he lead well. It's not game at all. Give yourself some credit as a little hottie you can get what you want with men no game needed
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