RAMM
04-11-2009, 12:18 PM
You know that process NLP calls “modeling”? That’s how NLP was even created back in the seventies by Bandler. Just read one of his books. Anyway, modeling is about asking questions about some else’s internal processes and once you’ve got all the necessary data, you can do the same thing in your own head. It’s a bit what actors do, but without the actual person being modeled. They model the character they have created but the asking process is about the same.
Anyway, there are other ways to model. There is one I’ve been experiencing at first just by chance. Then I could do it regularly. The good thing about it is that I don’t have to ask stuff to that person. So you can just model one of Brad Pit’s characters if you want.
Here it is. Ok you need to have a lot of information about that person/character you want to model, and you need to understand it thoroughly. That means you can’t just model a picture, or a short vid about someone you know nothing about. But, the main well-rounded character of a good movie, you can model, at least in part.
A person has a different set of behaviors about everything he does, but what I’m interested in is his attitude, right? The thoughts he holds in mind as he does something that I’d like to learn to do maybe. And the core beliefs that allow those behaviors to take place.
When you’ll have successfully modeled someone you’ll get a clear feeling about it, that’s the only way to tell. But you’ll not feel you anymore. Like for a few seconds you’re thinking you’re the other guy! Freaky!
Take Mystery for example. Now, I’ve read The Game a few times. Read also his books. Seen hours of video with him on you tube. I pretty much know him right? Enough to try to model him. Did you ever notice when Mystery’s wearing the, that’s that called, wool hats? What he does sometimes is he puts both his palms on his head, he neatens the hat back and forth, pulls it above the eyebrows, then he grabs the border between thumb and index at eyebrow height and moves them right and left with a particular expression on his face. Now you might think it’s just casual or something unconscious. But the man is a scientist, he’s too analytical for tics, everything he does has a purpose. So I figured I’d try the behavior myself. What happens is, if you know the person well enough, when you try one particular behavior he does you feel the same feelings he was feeling in that moment. This particular behavior works just like an anchor. Though I’m not really sure if he’s more interested about anchoring his audience about something he just made them feel, or he’s triggering his own anchor that puts him in the right mood. Anyway, when you model someone, even you face changes. Like having a twin brother that’s totally different from you, and anyone can tell the difference, at least for a second.
Once you’ve managed to feel and thing the same things Mystery was thinking in that moment, you can anchor it yourself anyway you want, so you can use it in field. What I felt was, you know the cap was so low on his eyebrows that it occupied part of his visual, he could see it’s border, and the first thing I thought was “Cool, this thing above is my HUD in this really cool PickUP videogame I’m playing.” That’s an interesting mindset one could use in field or anywhere else.
I used to model Tyler Durden(from the movie) and had all those powerful crazy feelings, which is a hell of an experience. Unfortunately, they don’t work much for picking up women. That scares people off. What I find to work is being really warm with everybody, having and giving good feelings. Not being pissed and destructive. But still, it’s a cool feeling. Just feeling your face transforming, like getting the expression wrinkles of Tyler, the same look in your eyes. You could actually believe he’s your subconscious taking over your body :D
I’d rather model Tam Cruise in the first part of Vanilla Sky.
But what I had most fun with was the Joker, when I had the Joker make-up for carnival. And my anchor was the thing he does with his lips, like, they’re always moving, almost sensual I guess, then they make that annoying sound so very often. Then the smile. So I just focused on my mouth and all the right stuff happened, like my body language was his body language, my voice had become more similar to his growl. Facial expressions just perfect. Even my decision making processes were quite affected. Like I was starting to think like him. Sort of like Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder :D
This says a lot about “being yourself”. Like I was even pretending to be someone else. I wasn’t. I was being someone else.
P.S. This is NOT like TD’s deconstructing other people’s techniques and stuff. It’s just understanding other moods and unfamiliar points of view, it shows you there is more than one reality to chose from. Do not become a social robot or I’ll come and snipe you down! Those pricks disgust me. (actually to me personally, using canned has always been an issue cuz it makes me feel like a robot to just repeat out stuff so that’s why I made progress a lot slower, improvising all the time is a lot harder but it’s worth it to not become a nihilist I guess xD I only use soundbites. )
Oh, you know what I just thought? What If I made a video about this and show it to you? xD I’ve always thought I’m bad at doing imitations, and was envious of my friends who were good at it. Now I understand how it’s done! This is gonna be fun, when I have some time I’ll make the vid!
Anyway, there are other ways to model. There is one I’ve been experiencing at first just by chance. Then I could do it regularly. The good thing about it is that I don’t have to ask stuff to that person. So you can just model one of Brad Pit’s characters if you want.
Here it is. Ok you need to have a lot of information about that person/character you want to model, and you need to understand it thoroughly. That means you can’t just model a picture, or a short vid about someone you know nothing about. But, the main well-rounded character of a good movie, you can model, at least in part.
A person has a different set of behaviors about everything he does, but what I’m interested in is his attitude, right? The thoughts he holds in mind as he does something that I’d like to learn to do maybe. And the core beliefs that allow those behaviors to take place.
When you’ll have successfully modeled someone you’ll get a clear feeling about it, that’s the only way to tell. But you’ll not feel you anymore. Like for a few seconds you’re thinking you’re the other guy! Freaky!
Take Mystery for example. Now, I’ve read The Game a few times. Read also his books. Seen hours of video with him on you tube. I pretty much know him right? Enough to try to model him. Did you ever notice when Mystery’s wearing the, that’s that called, wool hats? What he does sometimes is he puts both his palms on his head, he neatens the hat back and forth, pulls it above the eyebrows, then he grabs the border between thumb and index at eyebrow height and moves them right and left with a particular expression on his face. Now you might think it’s just casual or something unconscious. But the man is a scientist, he’s too analytical for tics, everything he does has a purpose. So I figured I’d try the behavior myself. What happens is, if you know the person well enough, when you try one particular behavior he does you feel the same feelings he was feeling in that moment. This particular behavior works just like an anchor. Though I’m not really sure if he’s more interested about anchoring his audience about something he just made them feel, or he’s triggering his own anchor that puts him in the right mood. Anyway, when you model someone, even you face changes. Like having a twin brother that’s totally different from you, and anyone can tell the difference, at least for a second.
Once you’ve managed to feel and thing the same things Mystery was thinking in that moment, you can anchor it yourself anyway you want, so you can use it in field. What I felt was, you know the cap was so low on his eyebrows that it occupied part of his visual, he could see it’s border, and the first thing I thought was “Cool, this thing above is my HUD in this really cool PickUP videogame I’m playing.” That’s an interesting mindset one could use in field or anywhere else.
I used to model Tyler Durden(from the movie) and had all those powerful crazy feelings, which is a hell of an experience. Unfortunately, they don’t work much for picking up women. That scares people off. What I find to work is being really warm with everybody, having and giving good feelings. Not being pissed and destructive. But still, it’s a cool feeling. Just feeling your face transforming, like getting the expression wrinkles of Tyler, the same look in your eyes. You could actually believe he’s your subconscious taking over your body :D
I’d rather model Tam Cruise in the first part of Vanilla Sky.
But what I had most fun with was the Joker, when I had the Joker make-up for carnival. And my anchor was the thing he does with his lips, like, they’re always moving, almost sensual I guess, then they make that annoying sound so very often. Then the smile. So I just focused on my mouth and all the right stuff happened, like my body language was his body language, my voice had become more similar to his growl. Facial expressions just perfect. Even my decision making processes were quite affected. Like I was starting to think like him. Sort of like Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder :D
This says a lot about “being yourself”. Like I was even pretending to be someone else. I wasn’t. I was being someone else.
P.S. This is NOT like TD’s deconstructing other people’s techniques and stuff. It’s just understanding other moods and unfamiliar points of view, it shows you there is more than one reality to chose from. Do not become a social robot or I’ll come and snipe you down! Those pricks disgust me. (actually to me personally, using canned has always been an issue cuz it makes me feel like a robot to just repeat out stuff so that’s why I made progress a lot slower, improvising all the time is a lot harder but it’s worth it to not become a nihilist I guess xD I only use soundbites. )
Oh, you know what I just thought? What If I made a video about this and show it to you? xD I’ve always thought I’m bad at doing imitations, and was envious of my friends who were good at it. Now I understand how it’s done! This is gonna be fun, when I have some time I’ll make the vid!