To the Ladies:How can a gentleman tell?

[Arctic]

Ive heard all kinds of advice about how to tell if a woman's 'available'. As im trying to sarge free HBs who arent in some complicated mess(es) of relationships or drama webs, what are some no-BS signs that an chick is doing two things:

One, is available
Two, isnt tied down to anyone.

Understand, im not trying to judge or condemn anyone ,and I ask this question fully aware that many girls are just that good at fooling people.I ask because I didnt become a venusian artist to steal anyones serious girlfriend, and I dont want to step in someone's minefield of relationship issues.

;)

-Arctic.

[Maverick69]

Ok 1: release all expectations of trying to get a certain outcome 2: you come in under the radar and if in fact the guy and girl are dating, you just simply make him your friend. Who knows that guy might become your best friend for 5 years and you might end up marrying his sister. Just go into each set to hone your skills of delivery and calibration and focus on putting out fun and playful vibe and things will naturally come to you. Guys in the community are too focused on getting that one girl, or F-closing one girl, just let go out all expectations and just enjoy the interaction. If you botch a set, that's awesome because then you learn from it. You can learn way more from messing up a set than you will by running it well.

[Arctic]

Id have to disagree with you a couple of points. I understand what youre saying about outcomes, however as a person and a Venusian Artist I have an idea of what I want in an HB-and what I dont. Thats not having an outcome dependency, but simply how I see people and whether they offer anything positive to my reality.

What I dont want is an HB who lies and spins elaborate webs of deceit out of her own sense of LSE or other unresolved emotional issue. Nor to I want to close this girl and to encounter her fiancee or husband.Life is too short for games of deception, and its not outcome dependent to seek a positive HB instead of an HB that sets you back in your goals.

Heck, theres been plenty of friends ive made from gaming HBs who turned out to be taken at the 11th hour, but what unsettles me is that I had no way to know. Had their boyfriends not been present I would have lost friends instead of gaining them.Yes, we should not sarge with expectation, but at the same time, we should at least sarge with standards and a decent sense of the consequences of our actions.


-Arctic

[Maverick69]

I see what you're saying too. But I guess it all depends on what your goals are. For me, my goals as of now is to just go out and get calibrated and get my delivery perfect before I worry about closing certain girls. I see every set I come across no matter what they look like as a chance for me to perfect my calibration and delivery. Yes I'm making friends and a I have a lot of girls now, I just want to become an all around great VA before I worry about closing certain girls. But that's just my goal, we both have different goals but I understand where you're coming from.

[Amber Nectar]

Smile meet and greet, and get to the point ASAP so you don't waste time. I had a guy come up to me a couple weeks ago, and asked if I was seeing anyone, I told him no, so then he asked me out. I think that's a pretty good way. Straight and to the point may work....

[The Wild One]

Smile meet and greet, and get to the point ASAP so you don't waste time. I had a guy come up to me a couple weeks ago, and asked if I was seeing anyone, I told him no, so then he asked me out. I think that's a pretty good way. Straight and to the point may work....

Good stuff :D

[Arctic]

Direct:Hurm.I've opened groups before and after I've hooked ill ask casually how everyone knows each other,and that's when I discover my targets taken-but there really isn't such a gambit when its one-on-one.

Hence my quiry.But nevertheless,helpful info was shared here.

-Arcitc

[CrazyWilly]

Last night a HB was giving me some crazy proximity so I started chatting with her. After a few minutes I asked her who she was out with. She was out with some friends and rattled off a bunch of girls names. This told me she either was single or had a long distance boy.

You can either ask directly if she's single (I've done that), or you can ask her what her weekend plans are. Most HBs in relationships will have some weekend plan involving their boy and thus she can mention it.

If she's in a relationship and doesn't mention her boy, it means she's looking to upgrade, and there you are...

[zoner]

You know, you could always say something like, "I bet your boyfried hates you coming out to bars/places like this alone." See what she says to that.

[Firepower]

you can generally tell what is going on. however, if its a true love relationship like a devoted marriage, and the dude is alpha - watch the "extreme" wacky pua quips. Just back off gracefully or the dude will chew his way through a wall to get at you. My dad was totally Alpha and if a "romeo" hit on my mom - enough to make the scene uncomfortable - medical attention was required. I was like this with maybe 2 women in my life and the rest i dgaf.