Need Bartender A2 Help

[Faith]

So a couple of nights a month i goto a local bar for poker night and there is a HB7 bartender. I usually open with "can i get a coke" lol but she is really happy about it and i make very, very small talk with her and she seems interested.

Every time thou i sit down with my mates and i just think how i could number close her and i cant think of anything, its a quite place and the bar she is at is usually empty so i don't need to worry about an interruption or anything BUT the problem i'm facing is i cannot think of anything to say to her to build attraction.

Any suggestions?

[CrazyWilly]

Gaming hired guns (HGs) is hard work. The trick is getting them out of their work mindset.

I've done well getting pics with my local bar staff and then adding them on facebook. It pretty much always works.

I would recommend doing whatever it takes to get to hang out with her outside of work. For example after a minute or two of random conversation: "You seem pretty cool, we should hang out sometime when you aren't working. My buddy is throwing a party on Sunday, his partys are always fun, you want to come along?" She's been asked out more times that you can count and so asking her on a "date" isn't going to work, instead you are inviting her to something fun, nothing serious...

Anyway, thats my two cents...but given the questions you are asking, I think a HG is going to eat you alive, be careful.

[Match]

Mystery has tons of great material about gaming hired guns... I'd definitely suggest finding it on his DVD's and in his books.

You basically need a lot of social proof and preselection to legitimately pick up a hired gun. They get approached by "normal" guys at the bar 50 times a night.

Some things you can do are: Bring pivots with you and let the hired gun see you with them, approach other women and look like you're having a great time with them, then have your friends take pictures of you and other girls (flash game), be the life of the party, talk to the bouncers like you know them, etc... and after doing some of those things to exhibit preselection then you will be ready to pick up the hired gun.

[smoosh]

Mystery has tons of great material about gaming hired guns... I'd definitely suggest finding it on his DVD's and in his books.

You basically need a lot of social proof and preselection to legitimately pick up a hired gun. They get approached by "normal" guys at the bar 50 times a night.

Some things you can do are: Bring pivots with you and let the hired gun see you with them, approach other women and look like you're having a great time with them, then have your friends take pictures of you and other girls (flash game), be the life of the party, talk to the bouncers like you know them, etc... and after doing some of those things to exhibit preselection then you will be ready to pick up the hired gun.

This is good. I was listening to mystery last night talk about this and this is exactly what he said.

He got two girls to join him at the bar him being locked in with his back to the bartender. He games the two set in front of the bartender and then turn around and run A3 as an opener to the bartender asking her: What do you got going for you more than your looks? etc.........

So yea solid social proof and preselection seems to be it. Specially if you dont have much time to run game. You do A2 before you open her and when you open her you are right away in A3.

Qualify her give her some genuine IOI's leave then come back and go for the # close, email, day two, whatever you want... Becasue she is cool and you love her energy, outlook, funny, etc... and want to hang out sometime.

Hey I love your attitude what can we do to keep in contact and hang out sometime? Hey me and my friends are gonna have a big kick ass party on saturday you should pass by and bring your friends! How can I contact you? etc...

~Smoosh

[Kevin Feng]

If you brain fart, just go direct on her, but also consider the fact that she is a hired gun and that she IS PAID to be nice and to talk to you.

[dmoney86]

what has helped me a lot was using banter to get bartenders. It helps keeps the frame and instantly puts you in a different category from regular guys. Especially since most bartenders dont have time for an indirect opener and a direct opener can be difficult since they are paid to be nice. Also qualification seems to be where the sarge against bartenders is won or lost.