View Full Version : Closing Committed HBs-Moral or Underhanded?
Arctic
02-09-2009, 10:25 PM
I remember a set I ran maybe a month ago,when I was trying to get my game back in shape.An HB sat across from me with a guy,and there was no way to know outwardly what his standing to her was,so I opened the set to see.
Turned out he was her man,and they'd been going out for 3 months.You wouldn't have guessed from the IOI's the girl was giving me-but that's when my game hit a wall.
I knew if I got her one-on-one I'd close her,but the guy was a well meaning if bland dude-and my ex who set my inner game back in the first place went with some AFC who spent 2 months talking me down to my ex behind my back.Yeah,I know if HB would cheat with me,shell do it with some other guy,but still...its like if I'm going to call out an AFC chump for basically stealing my girl,I shouldn't go out and do the same thing to someone else.
I just felt eerie DHV-ing to this guys girlfriend while he's totally unaware in blowing him out,like I was taking money from a safe while the owners sleeping next to it.
I'm referring to obviously committed relationships here,and not any light/early or FB style cases.How do you guys deal with committed relationships-do ya bust em up ,or observe the 'bro code'?
CrazyWilly
02-10-2009, 12:48 AM
I don't want any part of it. The last thing I want is some guy to show up with a posse to kick my ass because I got with his girl.
In my observation, most HBs have cute friends. As a result, I'm down with the friends.
azazels_wolf
02-10-2009, 01:37 AM
If she is unhappy and the guy is treating her like shit, then you'll probably be doing her a favor by helping to break up that relationship or making her realize that he is not worth keeping around. But it has to be HER choice.
However, if she is with a high value man, or she is committed to making the relationship work because she finds enjoyment/pleasure/happiness with him (rather than being stuck in a LSE or abuse cycle) then leave well enough alone - you will only being causing problems and conflict for her through what will likely be a meaningless or token f-close for you.
Arctic
02-10-2009, 04:51 AM
If she is unhappy and the guy is treating her like shit, then you'll probably be doing her a favor by helping to break up that relationship or making her realize that he is not worth keeping around. But it has to be HER choice.
However, if she is with a high value man, or she is committed to making the relationship work because she finds enjoyment/pleasure/happiness with him (rather than being stuck in a LSE or abuse cycle) then leave well enough alone - you will only being causing problems and conflict for her through what will likely be a meaningless or token f-close for you.
Good points-definitely don't want to get jumped over an HB lol.But in the FR,her man was just average-that didn't make him a bad guy or unworthy ,just unaware.And I didn't want to take his girl from him because of that,even though it looked like she *really* wanted me to.
Crazy how pickup shows you your own personality sometimes...
world.ends.now
02-12-2009, 01:36 AM
Ill tell you man, it depends on two things:
1: How much I like the guy (is he a bro?)
2: Are they a good couple? Will they last? (let's be real with that)
So yeah, it's okay sometimes, but usually not. As PUAs we have so many girls to work with. Might as well pay respect to those people who might be a little happy... that AFC (and AFC is almost all girls HAVE to choose from, let's remember) That AFC might be really happy with her.. How selfish would it be for you to fuck that up? Naw man... Gota respect him as a person. That comes first.
But like I said, if he doesn't deserve respect, I wouldn't feel bad giving him none.
Arctic
02-13-2009, 09:36 PM
Ill tell you man, it depends on two things:
1: How much I like the guy (is he a bro?)
2: Are they a good couple? Will they last? (let's be real with that)
So yeah, it's okay sometimes, but usually not. As PUAs we have so many girls to work with. Might as well pay respect to those people who might be a little happy... that AFC (and AFC is almost all girls HAVE to choose from, let's remember) That AFC might be really happy with her.. How selfish would it be for you to fuck that up? Naw man... Gota respect him as a person. That comes first.
But like I said, if he doesn't deserve respect, I wouldn't feel bad giving him none.
That's cool.There aren't any fast rules about this kind of thing,and I'm glad for it.I got the feeling that she was bored,and that he A)was a sincere guy and B)that he had no idea that his girl was straight attracted to me.
I just got the vibe that it wouldn't be cool to steal her from him,even though she wanted me to.The guy seemed to believe all was well in paradise,which just adds to the 'wrong' column lol.
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