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δhinobi
02-02-2009, 06:13 PM
First off, let me give you guys some background info about myself. I am a young guy with basically no friends that I can count on and no girlfriends. Throughout high school I was a huge AFC and was also considered a "nice guy" and ended up stuck in the LJBF zone. I wasn't a total outcast and I had a fashionable style at that time, but I had a hard time gaining friends because I was always awkward at social interactions. Despite all of these things however, I actually had opportunities to get girlfriends, they just weren't ever the ones I wanted so I never pursued them.

Fast forward to the me right now, and I'm an rAFC still with a lack of friends and girls. I dress fashionably and while I'm not particularly attractive, I try to take care of my appearance. I still am awkward with social interactions until I either A.) get comfortable with the person or B.) have a few drinks and get buzzed.

I've read the VA Handbook, Adam Lyon's Principles of Attraction, and am currently reading VA Revelations. These books and these forums have helped me open my eyes on how to better my social life. I study these methods and keep trying to sculpt a new me using them. The problem is that I can't seem to find any hope in my life.

I spend most of time every single day doing absolutely nothing. I go on the computer and web browse for hours ( I used to play video games for hours instead), I read these forums and I read pick up books, I watch tv shows, and I ponder and ponder about the "techniques" and how to use them. I know that MM and the whole pick-up game WORKS, but I feel like there's no hope for ME.

I work a part-time job with shitty pay and every day I feel more sick of being alive. I feel sick of this life that I have to put myself through. While all of the advice from PUAs really makes me want to go out and make myself a better person, I can't seem to get the motivation to go out all alone and do this. What's the point in me going out sarging all by myself? Won't I just be the guy who came to the venue alone and left alone? I feel as if I will never be able to better my life and become a more sociable person, a person that people will WANT to be around.

azazels_wolf
02-02-2009, 10:10 PM
You have to look at it as a choice....

Either you choose to stay at home and do nothing, and be miserable, have no hope, and no way to improve your life....

OR you take a risk and roll the dice: You go OUTSIDE, you meet people and do something different than your normal day, and have a CHANCE of encountering something or someone positive and inspiring. You do this often enough, and you WILL find something that inspires you to do it AGAIN. And the more you try, the more momentum you'll get... until you see all kinds of change happening.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting to see a different result."

What are the results of doing nothing? Nothing but more suffering and boredom.

What are the results of doing something different?

Change.

Go out without expectation. Simply open your mind to encountering something positive or inspiring or interesting in some way. Don't expect it to be any particular thing.... just be open and in the moment. Then talk to people. You may get a surprise.

You never know who you meet, or what they can give you....

world.ends.now
02-03-2009, 02:02 AM
Do it in small steps, dude. Go out and instead of trying to PICKUP GIRLS and the whole nine yards (which can be overwhelming at first), just practice openers. Get a few good openers memorized, and GO OUT and PRACTICE them. Use the canned openers- they're field tested, and they're easy. Once you get that opener hooked, mission accomplished. The rest of the night just be yourself. That's all you have to do. Now you get your openers down, and you move to the next phase..
Watch the first two episodes of seasons 1 and 2 of the pickup artist. Mystery has them do the same thing. They just go out into the club, and practice openers. That's how you gota start.
Take it in steps.
And look at what wolf up there has to say. It's a choice. You have two paths in front of you. You KNOW where both lead you. Which one do you wanna take? Your choice dude

Noah
02-03-2009, 04:20 AM
one thing: you can't go out and pick up if you feel miserable and depressed. I think the most important thing is to work on yourself. do you like your job? if not why don't you do something you do like and do it full time. do you like sports? why don't you do something with that. it's all about meeting new people with the same interests and eventually making friends. don't spent the most of time staying home because that's a big reason you're getting depressed. i know it's very hard, but you are the only one who can change your life. no one else do it for you.

δhinobi
02-03-2009, 09:35 PM
Yeah I agree with everything you guys have said. Nothing is going to magically change unless I myself go out and start meeting people, and having conversations with people until I get over my AA.

world.ends.now
02-04-2009, 02:07 AM
You're limiting your experience to what you're comfortable doing. You should make it top priority to break your routine and do something which feels new everyday, once a day. It can be anything, as long as it's something. Eventually you will break out of the box you're in.

LexNutz
02-05-2009, 10:17 PM
The one good thing about hitting a rock bottom? There is only one way to go, up. You say you dress fashionable? Excellent. Thats already an advantage to many guys that join the community innitially.

The only way to improve your life is to change your routine. And by routine, I don't mean that DHV stories, the openers, and the negs, but the way you live life. Stop reading PU forums for a while. Don't read any additional info, until you have opened some sets. A mistake a lot of guys make is they read, read, read, explore every system out there, but never go out and sarge. If you have lots of AA, then don't go out with a purpose of getting #s or getting laid. Think, "I am going to go open some sets and kill my fear".

Go to your mall. Open to random people about random shit.

Ask them the time.
Ask a hot girl where you can buy a dress shirt?
How can you get to this place?

Start small. Get used to approaching, even if its just to ask this questions and leave. Slowly build up and challange yourself out of your comfort zone. Once you have lowered your AA, start going out. Meet someone from the forums, go have fun. When you hit sticking points come back and search for answers, re-read a paricular chapter. Hope this helps=]