Women Wings/Pivots

[RunAmok]

So with this new female area I have a question to pose. How many of the females on the "Woman's Perspective" forum wing PUAs to aid them in getting girls? It seems like a lot of the threads in this area focus on just random questions not on PUA aspects.

Thanks,

RunAmok

[Annika]

I am a WingWoman :)

[asab204]

I am a wing/pivot whatever I'm just there to help and have fun.

[The Wild One]

Don't need them really most of the time additional girls can be just as counter productive I think as having a bad wing. One problem you can run into with a friend that you're out with is she will get upset if you hit on different girls and start fights with girls in sets. Wingwomen...Are good for general classroom advice but I don't believe it's necessary to bring a girl you have paid in field to help you. First off you need to learn to develop a skill set that will actually ensure you can socialize with women and go out with them. You're going to have to go out on your own, and you might as well get used to that from the start. If girls don't like you and you have to pay one to hang out with you in field then when she's gone you're going to be less secure than ever. It's not the girl on your arm that gets you the girl, it's not your wing, it's you! You! I can go out alone to a bar and pick up a bartender alone or hot girl easily because I have game. I don't need any of that and you should be able to say the same the social group you belong to should want to be around you for you. You shouldn't be forcing and faking your social proof or you will dig yourself a hole in your ability to communicate with women.

Make friends with girls! Go out with them, and you'll understand! They provide social proof but generally I don't think they really help that much. I'd rather engage and create a jealousy plot line between two girls I don't know.

[azazels_wolf]

Most wingwomen aren't paid, actually. The girls on this forum are not currently wingwomen for hire. They do this because they love social dynamics, and want to find men who meet their standards.

Wingwomen can be AMAZING in the field. If you want to avoid squabbles and jealousy, make sure to be honest with each other about what your goals are, and communicate openly.

[The Wild One]

Allot of wing women are paid and they can be amazing but ultimately the skill set you want really shouldn't revolve around needing a girl to help you hit on another girl. Most girls I'm friends with are like my guy buddy's we don't always communicate every detail of our friendship because you can't always do that with everyone. Some girls can have hidden crushes and even if you say hey don't get mad if I hit on other girls they still can get mad. I've had this happen, and allot of guys that do well with women understand that. I'm sure wing women are great additions in the field but how many guys use them? I'm willing to bet very few have the time or do the girls to help there guy friend who can't help himself. You need to be able to get girls on your own first and develop a skill set so the wing women is just a fun option not a gaming necessity.

You can create pre-selection in talking to your first set, and having a positive interaction. Wing women I believe are very over rated! I understand the power of bringing a pretty girl out to help you game but usually if this is the case you should both be hunting together with similar intentions. The majority of your opportunities to game hot girls will be when you're doing random things and you will not always have this luxury. It's nice to be able to duplicate the same success you can with a wing women on your own via a little clever thinking on the spot.

My ultimate power is that girls have zero clue I understand them so well. I'm a total surprise...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdQ3aXO4gys

[RunAmok]

The Wild One, the OP had nothing to do with me needing a pivot let alone paying for one. It just asked which women on the forum were a wingwoman/pivot that's all.

[Annika]

Most wingwomen aren't paid, actually.


Yes, I do this for free...

They do this because they love social dynamics, and want to find men who meet their standards.


Right on!!


~ Annika :)

[azazels_wolf]

*grins at Annika*

Plus, I know there is at LEAST one other girl on this forum who has winged in the field, but I won't name names unless she wants to comment here herself.

I thnk the original question was asked as a way to measure the value of what our forum girls have to say.... to that intent, I direct anyone to read Prophet's thread on Taking Advice from Women:
http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7399


Annika, I like your signature quote. It is always good to be reminded of the importance of love. :)

[asab204]

So let me get this straight wingwomen/pivots aren't suppose to get paid to have fun and and hangout with their friends? What? this is such crap. *Sarcasm for those who don't know what it looks like *

I am not now nor have I ever been a female escort. I don't pay my friends to be friends I just hangout with them and they like that. It seems that the wild one really is the one who pays women to be his pivots or wingwomen. If it weren't true he wouldn't have posted anything about paying women to be pivots or wings.

[The Wild One]

Don't get upset girls I'm not trying to offend you I just think the whole wingwomen thing is over rated. Most of the time I never use a girl to meet anyone. I do allot of times use another girl to create jealousy in a girl I like occasionally and if you have allot of trouble talking to girls then a wing women will help you to create that. I do it all the time without a wing women just with regular girls in the bar. So my thing is the guys that needs the wing women can't really game well usually sooo..I think they need to figure out how to game properly without a wing women so they don't need them. It will enable you to make girls your wing women without them realizing what your doing it's more pimp that way.

I think women have amazing advice but it best serves students in the classroom rather than in the field. Unless the student is advanced.

[RunAmok]

You hit the nail on the head AW, and thanks for the thread jack The Wild One

[The Wild One]

:P My bad...My bad...