I'm going to hell!! F-closed my friends wife

[Bonafide]

on new years, i f-closed my friends wife, yes i said wife!
i dont know where to start...from PUA point of view or from the ehtic/moral point of view?
one week before new years eve i went very spontaneously to a bar ( no intentions to sarge). and i met my friends wife there with her best friend, of course i didnt run any game, common...but she told me shes soo mad at him cuz he s been abroad for work reason and after 2 weeks he fucked some other bitch and now he wants to get divorce. they ve been a couple for 6 years and are married for 2 years.
i acted like i wouldnt know about this other girl thing, but in real i met him 5 days before but very shortly and he said that to me.
now let me describe my relationship to him. in our last 3-4 years of school we were very cool, we were like the collest and most popular guys at all and our clique is so far still legends, that what connected us. but in the last 2 years we ve only seen each other 4 times. it just happened to be but whenever we saw each other we had right away the same old vibe like back in the days. and he invited me 8 months ago to his birthday party at his crib and thats when i met his wife for the first time. there was nothin special between me qnd her. we never actually really talked just lil chit chats here n there.
8 months later, back to now:
i thought she just needed something like a shoulder to cry on or an ear to listen, cuz my radar didnt tell me anything bout IOIs or anything. but then i told her i met a girl tonight but i forgot what she looks like. and that was true, i really did game a girl but forgot bout her looks. then i was chillin with my friends wife and suddenly that girl i sarged before came over to me, and suddenly FW ( friends wife) whispered in my ear " hey u are way to cute to hang out with trash like that" and gave that other girl and very mean face. and i was like daaayyuuummm its on.FW told me to that other chick that she was my date. i told that other girl in front FW so that both could hear it " i m sorry but tonight i m with her. but u and me can hook up on saturday night" ( btw, how masculine was that??!!) and it worked that girl said " ok see u on saturday" i was shocked cuz i expected her to flipp me off or call me out or something. anyways...soo with that last line i of xcourse disqualified myself for bein any boyfriend or serious-typa-guy-material. i indrectly announced that i m a loverboy, thats it!
after certain kino from her she took my hand and we went to the dancefloor and on the our way SHE squeezed my hand and i of course squeezed back ( who is seducing who??). we danced for liek 20 minutes and here comes my big plus, i really got that dance game goin on. if u compare dancing to cars then i m a bentley. thats always been my big talent. anyways then she strated to dance more physicall to check whats really good ;-) then they played some typa RnB pop song and our faces were so close to kissed and right away with the tounge. dayyuumm. so it went on and on and on right to where she was about to leave she told me i dont want to take you into a stupid situation but what shall i do with u now?
i didnt know what to say cuz my morals came one but it looked like an rejection from my site.
so she went home and i stood there with my friends for at least 90 minutes but while she was gone, she wrote me 2 text messeges, called me 3 times and wrote me a looong e-mail. she was sooo wild now. she wanted it sooo bad. she called when i left the club and we actually only talked sexual. she told me how bad she needs sex, that shes off sex for 7 months and that my friend has a very small penis and sex with him is soo bullshit etc. anyways 4 days later we met at 3 a.m. at a newyears party, hooked up went to her place, she gave me at least 1000 shit test, but fuck it. so next day i left her place to go to mine and whom do i met?? HIM, my friend, her husband! but it was close to my place he was on his way to work. and that was the fourth time in past 2 years where i ve seen him. this is fuckin karma, destiny or whatever and we had a small talk and also asked me how i partied and i actually wanted to say " yeaa i was at privtae party, then i went downtown then i slept with YOUR wife, in YOUR bed, on YOUR side of the bed" but course didnt say but since he got kicked out of the crib hes living at his best friends place who lives like 5 minute walk from me. so it happened that we ended up in " heeyy gimme a call lets chill and hang out like back in the days"
i feel so weird and confused right now.
what shall i do? specially from moral and codex of honour point of view??

[fair rose]

on new years, i f-closed my friends wife, yes i said wife!




That's all I read... LOL. Hope the beer is at least rodeo cool down there.

[acharmingkiddo]

what shall i do? specially from moral and codex of honour point of view??

If you are asking a moral question then you are in a terrible place to get advice... 95% of this community would probably see this post as some sort of great triumph (sorry mods, I calls it like I sees it)

My take: what you did was horribly wrong and the only right thing to do is to tell her you can't see her again

[Titanic]

sounds like she's fucked you over hook line and sinker buddy! seems to me like she definitely played on your weakness to get revenge on your friend. Now she's got ammunition to get back at your friend and you best be sure she'll be willing to use it when the time is right. Think that you should maybe go and see this girl and explain that this can never come out ( be extra nice kiss her ass and try to befriend her as maybe if she sees you as a friend she'll be less inclined to shit on you too ) that is if you think you can resist the temptation of sleeping with her again

[Splendo]

In my opinion, what you did was morally reprehensible.

If they were divorced and you had permission from your friend to fuck her, you'd be ok.


I'd say what you did makes you a shitty friend and a weak person.

[-TruTh-]

Wow this was so way beyond the call of moral integrity.

Theres really nothing positive I can say... because this breached a code of man.. if you want to hide this from him then you do that... but don't hang out and be his friend because he will find out probably. -- truth

[The Wild One]

You slept with your friends wife...Dude be careful:eek:

[Peach]

I don't really know if I would call you two friends now. It seems like you drifted from friends then aquaintences.
You fucked her.

I'm not really going to say if it's wrong or right because she ALSO made the decision to fuck you.
It was consensual but now you need to know what her motives are ?
Is she the kind of girl to use this as ammunition against you and your friend.


You need to get into her mindset or she could literally screw you again but this time it'll be up the ass.

[Smurk]

You took the pussy route. This is uncool dude.

Some people might view you as mega alpha and supreme Lover, but in my eyes ..... this kind of stuff.

If any of my friends did any of the girls i've slept with before and DATED..and MARRIED...It would be a good bye to them, and her.

It's the unwritten law of wingmen ship.

[Flame]

You took the pussy route. This is uncool dude.

Some people might view you as mega alpha and supreme Lover, but in my eyes ..... this kind of stuff.

If any of my friends did any of the girls i've slept with before and DATED..and MARRIED...It would be a good bye to them, and her.

It's the unwritten law of wingmen ship.

with you up untill the end.. women who you USED to sleep with or date, are fair game in my opinion. Why would you not agree? Fear of having your in-bed skills compared to those of your friends? Damn, that would be HILARIOUS!! Things didnt work out between you and a certain girl, why not letting your friends game her? If theyre interested, you basically have no right to tell em off :). If every girl youve dated cannot be touched by any of your friends ever again, I really hope you're not to good a pua :D otherwise there wont be much left for your mates!

Anyway, I would agree to you that you never, ever touch a current girlfriend or wife. Hell, Id even think about it twice if she wasnt married to a friend of mine but just to some random dude. So let alone sleeping with one of my buddies' girls...

[Argo navis]

Man, listen : NO the community doesn't condone this, and me as an individual - not affiliated to the VA boards - neither. Any of the mods, Matador, Mystery, Lovedrop, I am sure they find there are better things to invest this material into - and plenty of free girls on earth.

This said, I can't recount all the girls who were engaged or married or otherwise commited who hit on me recently. At the age of 30, it's "masks down" time and marriages of five years ago are starting to shake.

Stuff happens.

I have resisted them all at first - although I let a couple of them get closer to me. I am now... ... starting to date one of them who is REALLY into me, like into me for ten years, and into me after weeks and months of both of us trying to avoid something to happen, clumsilly, or being otherwise unable to resist.

...
Her hubby's not a friend, he is an acquaintance.
The marriage is dead already and has been for a while.
She's been in love with me for longer than that.
And seemingly manages now to handle the outcome in honesty.
As I did NOT fuck her until her position was clear - I know it would be, in my alpha role, like... defining her as a whore. Ask if you need clarifications.

...

You.
Need.
To be.
Honest.

NOW. You need to make this stop, and to prioritize : who matters most. Really? Know one thing, lies DO backfire in a way or another. Always, sooner, later, this is not one of those "old sayings" only - it's an actual scientifical oddity.

Information naturally tends to be free - in order to persist, much like in the internet, information needs to flow, thus it tends to be free. The smallest glimpse of this story goes "live", and the whole story will go live.

You can rest assured this will happen in a way or another, sooner or later.

...

Then what you'll have to do is tell the guy "hey, yes, I DID fuck your wife and I DID lie to you about it".

...
In the opposite case : commited bloke bangs commited chick "on the side" for a year, they like each other, they get together. Years later, meaning now, a whole LOT of dishonesty has invaded their couple - because it was the foundation of their relationship from the start. So she, is fucking around all week long, finding excuses not to work, and relying on him. Him, he is drifting into antisocial activities - to extremes at worst, alcohol, and much, much worse.

...
Decide who matters to you.
And be honest to that person as tough as it gets.

[dr_webber]

I have a friend who cheats on his wife
and he feels no guilt for it.

sometimes we do stupid shit and have to live with it.
the important thing is that you are aware that what you did will not earn you any points in heaven.

remember that its her fault as much as yours since she was taking initiative to get you into bed.


Then what you'll have to do is tell the guy "hey, yes, I DID fuck your wife and I DID lie to you about it".



thats easier said then done but you can try to do that
in my opinion you dont have to tell anyone anything
you made a mistake and beating yourself up over it is punishment enough
telling your friend about it would be a bold move but the consequenses are too unpredictable

[Sincerelee]

You need to come out with them about this. Not with us. We were not involved nor are we harmed by it.

To set this as morally straight as possible, you need to do this:
1. Go to her and let her know you are going to tell him about it.
2. Go to him and tell him about it.
3. Accept any ramifications that come of it.

Since he has cheated, he might not have a problem with it. He might read it as a "I guess she is ok with an open marriage". I can only guess he is out because she said, "I found out about your cheating, and I have been faithful to you" so he felt guilty and left.

With the knowledge that she is not faithful, he may feel justified in fighting back in divorce court. In many states, my state included, the non-cheating spouse gets everything in the divorce settlement.

I would not feel anything for her. She made the decision to screw you when she saw you, not when you danced into her heart on the floor. Also, she used you. She was not looking to make a relationship with you, else her game would have been majorly different. Sex with you would have been a build up from establishing a bond if she wanted something more than sex.

[Sincerelee]

telling your friend about it would be a bold move but the consequenses are too unpredictable
Manning up to our actions is a major step to maturity. The worries of "What if he finds out?" are more damaging than ramifications of coming clean.

He will find out, sooner or later. Sooner will be better for you and him, if sooner comes from you. Depending on how she wants to manipulate him, he may already know and just is testing your character by playing dumb.

One final note. When you let her know that you are going to tell him, she may tell you that he already knows. That should not influence you at all. You still go tell him, in case she was lying to you about him knowing.

But, be ready to run if the guy is known to carry firearms...in which case it may be safer to call him first and ask to meet him at Starbucks.

[Argo navis]

Couldn't agree more. It's not about us condoning or not condoning, it's about who you want in your life, how you treat them, and ultimately, how you feel. The grand consequences of "keeping it for yourself" will far outweigh those of coming out - whatever happens.

[Randel Flagg]

There are certain lines you dont cross. One is you Never hurt a friend. As Hypnotica refers to guys like this as bottom feeders

[Eggy]

You are a ####ing @$$. If that was my wife I would gun you down. what PUA picks up his frends wife

[acharmingkiddo]

You are a ####ing @$$. If that was my wife I would gun you dawn.

You shouldn't go around gunning peoples dawns. We need those with our sunsets.

[Bonafide]

i appreciate all of your words, even eggys ( damn whats wrong with u...calm down...)
but some parts have not been described precisely yet. sooo first of all he cheated on her on june and crossed her finally out of his life on july and he told her that not face to face not via phone, no he wrote an email saying he wants to get divroced cuz he found this new chick is totally in love with her.
when he came back from his job abroad on novembre, she of ocurse kicked him out of the crib. and she kept the crib for herself since she has already been payin all the rent by herself for a looong time.
but to sum it up she was the good one in their relation ship, she helped him alot she took him away from a lotta bullshit etc.
and my relationship to him is like we have alot in common but as i said since 2004 i only seen him 4 times and the only reason i was invited to his birthday on april was that he accidently walked by the place i used to work so we talked and he invited me. i was never in his very closest circle, since i didnt know anyone at his birthday. we developed diffrently after highschool. and if we would hang out now it would be something like a reminiscing thing, nothing constant. he is actually on first sight a very nice, cool person. but hey he is also a notorious cheater, kon artist, betrayer and liar.
and i repeat again since 2003 i have seen him 5 times, phoned 2 times and wrote like 2-3 messeges over facebook, THATS IT!! and in school he was always one grade higher than me since he is 1 year older than me. and durin the weed times we didnt even smoke that much weed together he prefered others to smoke with.
but from my impression i m the only guy from back in the days, he can trust and who is loyal cuz i dont give a shit about any Diva-moves by others from the past.
and alotta ppl know about me havin always a different girl on every weekend and that i m PUA but he doesnt know.

but anyways unlike some ppls advice i will NOT go tell him. what i m afraid of is that when she finally after severel months decides that she is able to hold a talk with him, that she might go nuts and tell him like okk u know what yeaa i fucked some other guy and it was *myrealname*! ur friend!
actually one of her many shit test before we got down was that she wanted to make sure that i m gonna keep it to myself and will tell no one. so i hope shes strong enough not to over react.
but the thing she is a HB8 but i can most defently not fuck her again in the same bed as he used to sleep with her.

she didnt contact me at all after our night. but i will contact her on friday and check whats good. and will keep u updated.

[-TruTh-]

i appreciate all of your words, even eggys ( damn whats wrong with u...calm down...)
but some parts have not been described precisely yet. sooo first of all he cheated on her on june and crossed her finally out of his life on july and he told her that not face to face not via phone, no he wrote an email saying he wants to get divroced cuz he found this new chick is totally in love with her.
when he came back from his job abroad on novembre, she of ocurse kicked him out of the crib. and she kept the crib for herself since she has already been payin all the rent by herself for a looong time.
but to sum it up she was the good one in their relation ship, she helped him alot she took him away from a lotta bullshit etc.
and my relationship to him is like we have alot in common but as i said since 2004 i only seen him 4 times and the only reason i was invited to his birthday on april was that he accidently walked by the place i used to work so we talked and he invited me. i was never in his very closest circle, since i didnt know anyone at his birthday. we developed diffrently after highschool. and if we would hang out now it would be something like a reminiscing thing, nothing constant. he is actually on first sight a very nice, cool person. but hey he is also a notorious cheater, kon artist, betrayer and liar.
and i repeat again since 2003 i have seen him 5 times, phoned 2 times and wrote like 2-3 messeges over facebook, THATS IT!! and in school he was always one grade higher than me since he is 1 year older than me. and durin the weed times we didnt even smoke that much weed together he prefered others to smoke with.
but from my impression i m the only guy from back in the days, he can trust and who is loyal cuz i dont give a shit about any Diva-moves by others from the past.
and alotta ppl know about me havin always a different girl on every weekend and that i m PUA but he doesnt know.

but anyways unlike some ppls advice i will NOT go tell him. what i m afraid of is that when she finally after severel months decides that she is able to hold a talk with him, that she might go nuts and tell him like okk u know what yeaa i fucked some other guy and it was *myrealname*! ur friend!
actually one of her many shit test before we got down was that she wanted to make sure that i m gonna keep it to myself and will tell no one. so i hope shes strong enough not to over react.
but the thing she is a HB8 but i can most defently not fuck her again in the same bed as he used to sleep with her.

she didnt contact me at all after our night. but i will contact her on friday and check whats good. and will keep u updated.

The character of a Man is defined by what actions he takes... by lying what makes you worthy of any further assistance from us? -- Truth

[Nutz]

To this day I still can't figure out why married chicks are the easiest women to have sex with. It's so wrong and for so many reasons.

[Tay Tay]

To this day I still can't figure out why married chicks are the easiest women to have sex with. It's so wrong and for so many reasons.

I agree with you, it's really quite sad

[Hypnotica]

Because Men Don't know how (for the mostpart) to keep there passions fresh. It works on both sides. Like a flower cut from the source....it can wither without fresh air and nutrients.
More education needed.

[catalyst]

I totally agree with Hypnotica. Nice analogy. Try reading Sperm Wars by Robin Baker for the biological reasons humans do the sexual things they do. It is essential reading for EVERY PUA. Blew me away the first time I read it but now I have become much more accepting with the ways of the world.

[Titanic]

Look you can come up with all the excuses in the world about ' oh he cheated first' and ' but he treated her like shit' or whatever. The facts are that YOU HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL YOUR ACTIONS whether she led you on or ' it takes 2 to tango ' you cant blame anyone but yourself for what you did. If their relationship was gone, and you really like this girl then fair enough. Be a man and stand up and tell the world that you care for her and that you are strong enough to face the consequences. If you did this in a moment of weakness then learn from your mistake

[Tay Tay]

i appreciate all of your words, even eggys ( damn whats wrong with u...calm down...)
but some parts have not been described precisely yet. sooo first of all he cheated on her on june and crossed her finally out of his life on july and he told her that not face to face not via phone, no he wrote an email saying he wants to get divroced cuz he found this new chick is totally in love with her.
when he came back from his job abroad on novembre, she of ocurse kicked him out of the crib. and she kept the crib for herself since she has already been payin all the rent by herself for a looong time.
but to sum it up she was the good one in their relation ship, she helped him alot she took him away from a lotta bullshit etc.
and my relationship to him is like we have alot in common but as i said since 2004 i only seen him 4 times and the only reason i was invited to his birthday on april was that he accidently walked by the place i used to work so we talked and he invited me. i was never in his very closest circle, since i didnt know anyone at his birthday. we developed diffrently after highschool. and if we would hang out now it would be something like a reminiscing thing, nothing constant. he is actually on first sight a very nice, cool person. but hey he is also a notorious cheater, kon artist, betrayer and liar.
and i repeat again since 2003 i have seen him 5 times, phoned 2 times and wrote like 2-3 messeges over facebook, THATS IT!! and in school he was always one grade higher than me since he is 1 year older than me. and durin the weed times we didnt even smoke that much weed together he prefered others to smoke with.
but from my impression i m the only guy from back in the days, he can trust and who is loyal cuz i dont give a shit about any Diva-moves by others from the past.
and alotta ppl know about me havin always a different girl on every weekend and that i m PUA but he doesnt know.

but anyways unlike some ppls advice i will NOT go tell him. what i m afraid of is that when she finally after severel months decides that she is able to hold a talk with him, that she might go nuts and tell him like okk u know what yeaa i fucked some other guy and it was *myrealname*! ur friend!
actually one of her many shit test before we got down was that she wanted to make sure that i m gonna keep it to myself and will tell no one. so i hope shes strong enough not to over react.
but the thing she is a HB8 but i can most defently not fuck her again in the same bed as he used to sleep with her.

she didnt contact me at all after our night. but i will contact her on friday and check whats good. and will keep u updated.

So I've read all your post and I've come to this conclusion:
You suck.

Whether or not he was the bad guy in the relationship that doesn't make it right for her to do the same thing. I also noticed it looked like you were trying to make excuses about how you guys aren't close friends...So what?! That doesn't matter. If you at one point and time called that man your friends (no matter how strong the relationship is/was) you have betrayed him. You said he saw you on accident and then suddenly invited you to his birthday party. He didn't have to do it, but he did. To me that means he might consider you a closer friend than you might think

[layla39]

enjoy the uggo

[InfiniteEternity]

If I was your friend and I found out, you probably wouldn't be very healthy for very long lol

[Hypnotica]

Learn from it kid. We (us guys) all know that we can get stupid and pussy Drunk from time to time(especially when they throw it out there). The fine line can blur sometimes and before you know your too far on the other side, I learned this lesson a long time ago. Just Re-man up, get smarter,and pick a better solution. We all make mistakes.

[Charmin']

Wrong..Wrong! You're soo Wrong.

I just don't have any words for this..

[Peach]

I don't know what the proper advice for this situation. Some people have told me some painful things but I have wished that they had just lied to me.
Things like that just fuck you up and you tend to go over and over them in your head waging internal wars etc.
It's hard.
But your friend is not me I don't know how this man thinks. I'm not sure if he would be better off knowing the truth
( he may not be prepared to handle it )
Or he may be able to hear those words.
It depends on this man personally!
It depends on his mindset.

You had a moment of weakness, I'm cant figure out though by truly looking over post the to see if you really are remorseful or if your just scared about getting caught.

[Argo navis]

Well put peachy : judgement is such a pain in my tolerant ass nowadays, that it is grateful to you for putting things straight. As for wether the other guy is prepared or not, it's for their friendship and his own self esteem that he really - should - have that talk. The fact she cheated shows the couple is going south already.. So whatever happens and is said or not, ultimately, if the two want to work issues that are already there through, the fact she cheated may hold the seed of honest and healthy reconciliation or separation. This said, I'd be wary of the knee-jerk reaction, but I still would tell him - so that I can look at him in the eyes, and at me in a mirror, without guilt.

[Tay Tay]

Well put peachy : judgement is such a pain in my tolerant ass nowadays, that it is grateful to you for putting things straight. As for wether the other guy is prepared or not, it's for their friendship and his own self esteem that he really - should - have that talk. The fact she cheated shows the couple is going south already.. So whatever happens and is said or not, ultimately, if the two want to work issues that are already there through, the fact she cheated may hold the seed of honest and healthy reconciliation or separation. This said, I'd be wary of the knee-jerk reaction, but I still would tell him - so that I can look at him in the eyes, and at me in a mirror, without guilt.

I agree with you about feeling the guilt when you look into the mirror.

But I have to say I tend to disagree with Peach to some extent. Yes telling him might give him internal wars inside but would the guilty party also start having internal wars about the situation? In all honesty the is no right or wrong way to handle this situation.

[Smurk]

with you up untill the end.. women who you USED to sleep with or date, are fair game in my opinion. Why would you not agree? Fear of having your in-bed skills compared to those of your friends? Damn, that would be HILARIOUS!! Things didnt work out between you and a certain girl, why not letting your friends game her? If theyre interested, you basically have no right to tell em off :). If every girl youve dated cannot be touched by any of your friends ever again, I really hope you're not to good a pua :D otherwise there wont be much left for your mates!

Anyway, I would agree to you that you never, ever touch a current girlfriend or wife. Hell, Id even think about it twice if she wasnt married to a friend of mine but just to some random dude. So let alone sleeping with one of my buddies' girls...

PM me your number, we can take this a step further if you like.

And for the record, blowing what i said out of proportion isn't going to help you, or me, or the poster.

Onward:

It's a paradoxial weird scenario, I feel like alot of guys here STILL do pick up married girls and sleep with them, and for that we(I've done it) congratulate them for having A+ game.

On the other hand, when it's done with a friends wife, we all of a sudden frown upon them.

I personally felt sick to my stomach reading that, if i ever choose to marry a girl and my friends pulled this kind of shit, i would have to say good bye to them both, But deep down it would be MY FAULT.

Happy girls don't cheat, emotionally satisfied girls dont cheat, sexually satisfied girls dont cheat.

Period.

Real life example: When youre full as HELL, like stuffed, you've just pigged out at a buffet, then you see your 'favourite' food, chances are you WONT want to go near it.

Hypnotica makes a great point. A++++

We need to get trained.

Just for the record,I've heard from trustworthy(VERY trustworthy)sources Mystery himself is known for doing this, he blantantly games peoples girls. Obliquely. It's fucked, and disrespectful. I'm still trying to find wings who arent ego driven and on the path to game everything.

Later.

[Peach]

I agree with you about feeling the guilt when you look into the mirror.

But I have to say I tend to disagree with Peach to some extent. Yes telling him might give him internal wars inside but would the guilty party also start having internal wars about the situation? In all honesty the is no right or wrong way to handle this situation.
Let me clarify for you:
I'm talking about the victim not the guilty parties.

I said that his friend was not me. You miss read that. It came from some personal experience.
The context shows that in a situation like that you can get a thousand different reactions.
It depends on that man and on his mindset.
Is he the kind of person who'd rather not know because it would torment him or
Would he be able to handle it?

Please try to read that more carefully Tay !
Anyway where have you been it seems like you haven't been on in a awhile???

[Selador]

BE CAREFUL IS FN RIGHT !!! HOLY CRAP----this same situation happened to my best buddy-----the dood almost killed my buddy-----3 YEARS AFTER the fact my friend is still hiding from this dood b/c he seriously wants to end him-----i---dont mess with her ,stay AWAY!!!!!! THERE IS SO MUCH TAIL OUT THERE!!!! YOU KNOW THIS MANNNNNN

[Argo navis]

There's no bravo here, but shit happens, and this specific shit tends to happen to men who forget how to be men over time. I am not excusing her, this is bad mojo, but our main poster is already suffering for his loss of control. I once had the girlfriend of a friend simply get naked on my bed - she was a model, I was in my 20's, she's the one who picked me up, what would you do, whatever your values? My primary.. We fell in love with each other over the past months, several months. We *fought it back* until now for she is married, still - we never had sex before having given, we really tried to do something not to think about each other daily - even when, in these months, we were miles away from each other. Are we to be blamed for a feeling so strong and genuine? Her hubby who seemed so cool to me - turned out to be a lazy bum that SHE HAS NOW FULLY MAINTAINED FOR A YEAR. Among creepy things that she never told anyone - even me, but that are now obvious through the cracks in his ego and the tantrums he throws, begging her for a dime as he gets fatter and weaker by the day. I am sorry, but in my case, all I did was being a good man - to both, helped them in several ways. These are the two times this shit *happened* to me. Most of the times, it's escapism and vanity and pursuing comitted people is wack. Sometimes it truely is a mistake to find oneself in bed with the wrong person. I can relate.

[Peach]

There's no bravo here, but shit happens, and this specific shit tends to happen to men who forget how to be men over time. I am not excusing her, this is bad mojo, but our main poster is already suffering for his loss of control. I once had the girlfriend of a friend simply get naked on my bed - she was a model, I was in my 20's, she's the one who picked me up, what would you do, whatever your values? My primary.. We fell in love with each other over the past months, several months. We *fought it back* until now for she is married, still - we never had sex before having given, we really tried to do something not to think about each other daily - even when, in these months, we were miles away from each other. Are we to be blamed for a feeling so strong and genuine? Her hubby who seemed so cool to me - turned out to be a lazy bum that SHE HAS NOW FULLY MAINTAINED FOR A YEAR. Among creepy things that she never told anyone - even me, but that are now obvious through the cracks in his ego and the tantrums he throws, begging her for a dime as he gets fatter and weaker by the day. I am sorry, but in my case, all I did was being a good man - to both, helped them in several ways. These are the two times this shit *happened* to me. Most of the times, it's escapism and vanity and pursuing comitted people is wack. Sometimes it truely is a mistake to find oneself in bed with the wrong person. I can relate.

Well written

[Nutz]

BE CAREFUL IS FN RIGHT !!! HOLY CRAP----this same situation happened to my best buddy-----the dood almost killed my buddy-----3 YEARS AFTER the fact my friend is still hiding from this dood b/c he seriously wants to end him-----i---dont mess with her ,stay AWAY!!!!!! THERE IS SO MUCH TAIL OUT THERE!!!! YOU KNOW THIS MANNNNNN

You know, why is he so mad at only the friend? The woman also betrayed him by cheating.

That's the thing with this. When the woman cheats, she's the one fully responsible. The guy is just providing opportunity, but the decision to actually betray the guy and cheat rests solely on the woman's shoulders in these cases.

[Tay Tay]

Let me clarify for you:
I'm talking about the victim not the guilty parties.

I said that his friend was not me. You miss read that. It came from some personal experience.
The context shows that in a situation like that you can get a thousand different reactions.
It depends on that man and on his mindset.
Is he the kind of person who'd rather not know because it would torment him or
Would he be able to handle it?

Please try to read that more carefully Tay !
Anyway where have you been it seems like you haven't been on in a awhile???

I'll be more carefull next time.

I took a break from the internet. It was giving me a headache lol

[Dale]

When you read one of those stories about a guy getting gunned down in an alley for no apparent, THIS is usually the backstory.

If you keep doing stupid shit like this and getting in the middle of other people's drama it will likely cost you your life one day, when you least expect it.

[Tay Tay]

When you read one of those stories about a guy getting gunned down in an alley for no apparent, THIS is usually the backstory.

If you keep doing stupid shit like this and getting in the middle of other people's drama it will likely cost you your life one day, when you least expect it.

Scary but true

[bizzyb1]

Learn from it kid. We (us guys) all know that we can get stupid and pussy Drunk from time to time(especially when they throw it out there). The fine line can blur sometimes and before you know your too far on the other side, I learned this lesson a long time ago. Just Re-man up, get smarter,and pick a better solution. We all make mistakes.

Best advice. Take it.

[four20fx]

on new years, i f-closed my friends wife, yes i said wife!


Wrong. You fucked some dude's wife. People don't do that to their friends.

[Bonafide]

Update:

she text messaged me " did you tell *HisName* anything?"
note she didnt say anyhting like HI, HELLO and nothing like DARLING, BABY, SWEETY...all the stuff she used to say the couple of days before we had sex.

i wrote back: " no come on, i m not that kinda guy who runs his mouth only to be the man...why? "
note: i know the ironic part of me not tellin anyone besides all my fellow PUAs with the same potential and evil to do exactly the same. lol

she wrote" he trippin right now. i m gonna call u later "

she called after an hour but during that time, i freaked out. i had all these horror visions, how fucked up its gonna and that i gotta check on my shoulders when i go out etc. i tried to change my mind and watched tv but it was some justin timbalake thing on and this guy her husband actually looks liek justin, so i was liek fuck that, another karma sign...

after an hour she called me, while i was takin a shit. and she healed my nerves and said that he wants stuff like tv-set dvd player laptop etc. though its all hers. thats why he was trippin and mad as hell. and she still refuse to look at him, or talk to him or somethign thats why hes writing her emails.

at the end of our talk she mentioned that she would want it again with me, and for the first i cursed at my lover qualities. i wish i sucked in bed and was a 1 minute man.

but to me this stuff is over, i will not do it with her....i hope and if..it has to be NOT at her place.

last weekend i sinned again i did game on some girl who is havin a fiance now and who was the " great love" of y good friend of mine who moved to japan 4 years ago...but thats another chapter

[Dale]

Update:

she text messaged me " did you tell *HisName* anything?"
note she didnt say anyhting like HI, HELLO and nothing like DARLING, BABY, SWEETY...all the stuff she used to say the couple of days before we had sex.

i wrote back: " no come on, i m not that kinda guy who runs his mouth only to be the man...why? "
note: i know the ironic part of me not tellin anyone besides all my fellow PUAs with the same potential and evil to do exactly the same. lol

she wrote" he trippin right now. i m gonna call u later "

she called after an hour but during that time, i freaked out. i had all these horror visions, how fucked up its gonna and that i gotta check on my shoulders when i go out etc. i tried to change my mind and watched tv but it was some justin timbalake thing on and this guy her husband actually looks liek justin, so i was liek fuck that, another karma sign...

after an hour she called me, while i was takin a shit. and she healed my nerves and said that he wants stuff like tv-set dvd player laptop etc. though its all hers. thats why he was trippin and mad as hell. and she still refuse to look at him, or talk to him or somethign thats why hes writing her emails.

at the end of our talk she mentioned that she would want it again with me, and for the first i cursed at my lover qualities. i wish i sucked in bed and was a 1 minute man.

but to me this stuff is over, i will not do it with her....i hope and if..it has to be NOT at her place.

last weekend i sinned again i did game on some girl who is havin a fiance now and who was the " great love" of y good friend of mine who moved to japan 4 years ago...but thats another chapter


You do realize that if the husband had her phone (or even gets a copy of her text message traffic anytime in the future) you just CONFIRMED that you are a guilty party, right??

Had you done this to me at certain points in my life in the past it wouldn't help for you to be looking over your shoulder because the bullet would be going into the back of your head.

[Tay Tay]

Update:

she text messaged me " did you tell *HisName* anything?"
note she didnt say anyhting like HI, HELLO and nothing like DARLING, BABY, SWEETY...all the stuff she used to say the couple of days before we had sex.

i wrote back: " no come on, i m not that kinda guy who runs his mouth only to be the man...why? "
note: i know the ironic part of me not tellin anyone besides all my fellow PUAs with the same potential and evil to do exactly the same. lol

she wrote" he trippin right now. i m gonna call u later "

she called after an hour but during that time, i freaked out. i had all these horror visions, how fucked up its gonna and that i gotta check on my shoulders when i go out etc. i tried to change my mind and watched tv but it was some justin timbalake thing on and this guy her husband actually looks liek justin, so i was liek fuck that, another karma sign...

after an hour she called me, while i was takin a shit. and she healed my nerves and said that he wants stuff like tv-set dvd player laptop etc. though its all hers. thats why he was trippin and mad as hell. and she still refuse to look at him, or talk to him or somethign thats why hes writing her emails.

at the end of our talk she mentioned that she would want it again with me, and for the first i cursed at my lover qualities. i wish i sucked in bed and was a 1 minute man.

but to me this stuff is over, i will not do it with her....i hope and if..it has to be NOT at her place.

last weekend i sinned again i did game on some girl who is havin a fiance now and who was the " great love" of y good friend of mine who moved to japan 4 years ago...but thats another chapter

What is wrong with you?!?! Seriously what's your problem? Men who hit on taken/engaged/married women disgust me to no end. Especially if one of the girls you're hitting on is taken by your "friend"

[Argo navis]

I have few words of advice for you at this stage. You said *karma*, so as you can see, that shit exists and is about to hit back - he got it, now he will press her, she's trying to hang on to you, and she'll eventually blame it all on you. That is what happens when you keep nurturing lie and deception - each and every action implies reaction, of reality as a whole, right back at you in this case. Now, news flash 1, there is no hell that I know of, but I do believe in karma, and what reality as a whole will feed you back if you keep abusing this knowledge for wrong purposes far outreaches what you think is hell. In my difficult situation, close but not similar, things are being played - fair - between a blossoming love and dying marriage, without consuming adultery for self gratification purposes. Now mark my words - as I obviously was right : you're heading right to oblivion of the soul. Stop it, for what's ahead of you right now is sorrow much greater than anything you could ever imagine. Hell? Is nothing compared to what you're calling for.

[Tay Tay]

I have few words of advice for you at this stage. You said *karma*, so as you can see, that shit exists and is about to hit back - he got it, now he will press her, she's trying to hang on to you, and she'll eventually blame it all on you. That is what happens when you keep nurturing lie and deception - each and every action implies reaction, of reality as a whole, right back at you in this case. Now, news flash 1, there is no hell that I know of, but I do believe in karma, and what reality as a whole will feed you back if you keep abusing this knowledge for wrong purposes far outreaches what you think is hell. In my difficult situation, close but not similar, things are being played - fair - between a blossoming love and dying marriage, without consuming adultery for self gratification purposes. Now mark my words - as I obviously was right : you're heading right to oblivion of the soul. Stop it, for what's ahead of you right now is sorrow much greater than anything you could ever imagine. Hell? Is nothing compared to what you're calling for.

Great post! I totally agree with you!!

P.s. You need to clean out your inbox :p

[Argo navis]

Thank you, and trust I will ,) (ahh.. The sheer, natural emotional wisdom of women..)

[Tay Tay]

Thank you, and trust I will ,) (ahh.. The sheer, natural emotional wisdom of women..)

That's what makes us so dangerous we combine emotion with intelligence to get what we want

[Argo navis]

Dangerous?-) I have a personal understanding of that word. Well then... Can't wait for you to bite me.

[Tay Tay]

Dangerous?-) I have a personal understanding of that word. Well then... Can't wait for you to bite me.

Well it can make us dangerous. It seems to me that the girl did just that she used her emotions and intelligence to make a plan out how she was going to get what she wants....Or maybe I'm just over thinking what she did

[Argo navis]

Unlike you, she's ego driven, there's no wisdom in ego, only chaos. Your being dangerous and sensually agressive, on the other hand, yields you the most valuable gift I like to give to a true woman : a little challenge :)

[Tay Tay]

Unlike you, she's ego driven, there's no wisdom in ego, only chaos. Your being dangerous and sensually agressive, on the other hand, yields you the most valuable gift I like to give to a true woman : a little challenge :)

I love a good challenge

Anyways....Seems like were the only ones here

[Peach]

your an idiot bonafide.
This Is lunacy!
Some people keeping going after they shot themselves in the foot.
It really seems like you honestly don't care.
Something has effected that made you this fucking immune to people's feeling.
I'm not going to say your lacking a moral center.
But something really has corrupted you.

I think your more afraid about getting caught then you are truly regretful about fucking her in the first place.

At this point it seems you have no choice:
Tell him/ or at some point she will

Your fucked invetibaly.

Pull the band-daid off now man.

[Tay Tay]

your an idiot bonafide.
This Is lunacy!
Some people keeping going after they shot themselves in the foot.
It really seems like you honestly don't care.
Something has effected that made you this fucking immune to people's feeling.
I'm not going to say your lacking a moral center.
But something really has corrupted you.

I think your more afraid about getting caught then you are truly regretful about fucking her in the first place.

At this point it seems you have no choice:
Tell him/ or at some point she will

Your fucked invetibaly.

Pull the band-daid off now man.

I'm not sure he even reads our posts

[Peach]

I'm not sure he even reads our posts

*sigh*
Perhaps he wishes to brag about his exploits?

[Tay Tay]

*sigh*
Perhaps he wishes to brag about his exploits?

I have a feeling that's what all this was

[Peach]

I have a feeling that's what all this was

then let's do him a favore' and stop commenting no?

[Tay Tay]

then let's do him a favore' and stop commenting no?

I might...I was talking to other people in here

[ColePhoenix]

Again, new here, not trying to be rude.

But, the first thing that comes to mind is:

You didn't F-Close your friends wife, you F-Closed yourself.

[Peach]

Again, new here, not trying to be rude.

But, the first thing that comes to mind is:

You didn't F-Close your friends wife, you F-Closed yourself.

Brilliant man BRAVO!

[Titanic]

Bonafide remind me never to invite you round to my house for tea!

[Bonafide]

I'm not sure he even reads our posts

i do and stop sargin argo navis in my thread

Bonafide remind me never to invite you round to my house for tea!

but u better invite for vodka and cookies

[Tay Tay]

i do and stop sargin argo navis in my thread



but u better invite for vodka and cookies

I'm not sargin anybody I'm making conversation
It doesn't seem like you read them you don't comment back

[Mike Sinner]

I am going to stick up for you. You are getting persecuted way too much. This is between you, her and your friend. My personal rule is to stay away from my friends' significant others IF I want to keep them as my friends. But your not going to he'll for it. It was her decision, too.

[JD408]

You know ive done this when I was younger.
to my buddies wife that was once my boss.
Though I did it out of revenge, and just maybe young and stupid.
He had hit on my GF a few times, and the final time it was to much.
This guy when he had lost his job I would put gas in his car, his wifes car, buy his kid toys, and just try to be a friend. When he crossed the line with my girl friend that was it.

Normally I would say dont mow another mans lawn.
Not only is it not cool, but its a good way to get shot.

Really guys need to learn to stick together a little, and not screw each other over for women so much.
I really believe women can rule the world due to the simple fact that most idiots will listen and do whatever they say.
Woman makes you stupid when she shows a little tail!

anyway, id suggest staying away from this woman.
I dont know if you should come clean or not cause some people are crazy in this world. That right there what you did some guys will snap and kill over.
Take a look at people that go nuts when they lose their jobs.
You know it happens! If you do get confronted or decide to tell him, i guess be honest, and by all means be tactful with how you tell him about it.

[Bonafide]

I'm not sargin anybody I'm making conversation
It doesn't seem like you read them you don't comment back

cuz i m buzy.
i m about to move to L.A. on wednesday, and found out about it on saturday and i am right now in europe. i have a complicated life. but with this i leave that story here and not gonna take it to L.A.

and when i m gone i ll send him a mail with that link in it:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJDi8RHAE8

haha

[BigJohnson]

cuz i m buzy.
i m about to move to L.A. on wednesday, and found out about it on saturday and i am right now in europe. i have a complicated life. but with this i leave that story here and not gonna take it to L.A.

and when i m gone i ll send him a mail with that link in it:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJDi8RHAE8

haha

I read the thread title, and this last post.

If hell existed you'd be in a bad place my friend. I wouldn't worry to much about it, sarge on.

[Tay Tay]

cuz i m buzy.
i m about to move to L.A. on wednesday, and found out about it on saturday and i am right now in europe. i have a complicated life. but with this i leave that story here and not gonna take it to L.A.

and when i m gone i ll send him a mail with that link in it:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJDi8RHAE8

haha

...Wow you're really an ass aren't you?
With friends like you who needs enemies...

[Bonafide]

...Wow you're really an ass aren't you?
With friends like you who needs enemies...


Oh My God,
whats wrong with u ppl? wheres ur sense for humour? someone please pull out that stick that is shoved in peoples asses nowadays.
wuz up with these double-morality?
or maybe its because the different environtment certain people grew up in. . . dayyuum.
this aint no suburban america, where the sun shines out of my ass, and birds singing songs for me, story. man me and this guy got arrested together, i introduced him to certain names in the other " game", and so on. what i m sayin is, aint no body cries for minor shit like that in here. this is Kon Artist paradise, everyone from a taxi driver to the old lady u offer ur seat in the bus is a fuckin kon artist here. and i been to alooott of places in the world, pelase believe, that kon artisit vibe here is a standard, everyone deals with that.
and i m sayin that cuz i m developing to get my life straight and one part of this is leaving ur past behind and start growin new thoughts, minds and feelings, such as a guilty conscience, regrets and sorrow.

fuck it i m goin to sleep

[Tay Tay]

Oh My God,
whats wrong with u ppl? wheres ur sense for humour? someone please pull out that stick that is shoved in peoples asses nowadays.
wuz up with these double-morality?
or maybe its because the different environtment certain people grew up in. . . dayyuum.
this aint no suburban america, where the sun shines out of my ass, and birds singing songs for me, story. man me and this guy got arrested together, i introduced him to certain names in the other " game", and so on. what i m sayin is, aint no body cries for minor shit like that in here. this is Kon Artist paradise, everyone from a taxi driver to the old lady u offer ur seat in the bus is a fuckin kon artist here. and i been to alooott of places in the world, pelase believe, that kon artisit vibe here is a standard, everyone deals with that.
and i m sayin that cuz i m developing to get my life straight and one part of this is leaving ur past behind and start growin new thoughts, minds and feelings, such as a guilty conscience, regrets and sorrow.

fuck it i m goin to sleep

So because everybody else is a Kon Artist you have to be one too? Is that what you're saying?

I really am trying to understand your point of view (even though I disagree) but to me all it sounds like is he's you "friend", you screwed his wife, and you don't care. I understand that you're moving to a different place and all that but is that the image you really want to leave behind for him? An image of someone he called his friend screwing his wife and not even have to balls to tell him to his face? Leaving your past behind, cool whatever I understand that but to(truely) rid yourself of a guilty conscience wouldn't it be better to clear it away with honesty?

[L.A. Tripp]

Bonafide, if ever there was a definition of coward, what you have said your actions will be, is one. You want to either clear your conscious or stir up anger in him, one or the other, by sending him a link via email when you are across the ocean so he can't physically touch or harm you.

I thought we were growing into alpha males here? Doesn't look alpha AT ALL to me. Looks extremely beta to me.

[Bonafide]

stop trippin what da fuck is wrong with u??
i dont run away from shit. me moving to LA was planned way before i saw her. and today i told her and since she lives 5 min away from the airport i m gonna give her a last visit.
oh and TAY yes i know the defeinition of " friend" is different here. but she told me laot of stuff bout him that i didnt know, like that he s phony and fake and pretends to enjoy ur company but in real he just thinks about himself, which i can understand cuz also before that incident here. i used to call him, text messeged him etc. but he never responded back but when we accidently saw each other in the grocerys or something we cheered, and he was always like " heeyy we should hang out together, come on give me a call friday". i did. no response and so on. hes all cool on first sight, thats why aint nobody is cool with him and really likes him.

oh TRIPP u dont sound any alpha at all to me and if i see any lil signs of alphaism in u, its because u azttemp and try to cuz u read so but u aint that by nature. u too much scared and worried. this is how i picture u: u go to a club and arrive at 10 p.m. at 10:25 pm u drink 1 beer. only one for the whole night. at 1:30 a.m. u bout to leave the club but go to a police officer and tell him that u had 1 beer and if that would be ok and if he would mind to have a alcohol test with u....

playa where i grew u have to be alpha male otherwise u get raped in the ass. and my anus is still virgin, aight?!!

[Peach]

that still doesn't make it right. And just because your still an anal virgin doesn't mean your an alpha male:
It just means you had to fight to survive.

This kind of behavior is awful and unexcusable. TAY I believe you should take my advice and retire this thread.

Good day best of luck you will surely need it

[L.A. Tripp]

Bonafide, wake up and grow up. Open your eyes to the fact that it's not just one person in this thread telling you what I'm telling you.

You came and asked for advice, supposedly. Really, you just want attention. You want to pick fights. Peach has the right idea, because you, Bona, don't seriously want to listen to anyone. Your words and actions are the definition of coward. The day you realize that is the day you get past it.

[Tay Tay]

stop trippin what da fuck is wrong with u??
i dont run away from shit. me moving to LA was planned way before i saw her. and today i told her and since she lives 5 min away from the airport i m gonna give her a last visit.
oh and TAY yes i know the defeinition of " friend" is different here. but she told me laot of stuff bout him that i didnt know, like that he s phony and fake and pretends to enjoy ur company but in real he just thinks about himself, which i can understand cuz also before that incident here. i used to call him, text messeged him etc. but he never responded back but when we accidently saw each other in the grocerys or something we cheered, and he was always like " heeyy we should hang out together, come on give me a call friday". i did. no response and so on. hes all cool on first sight, thats why aint nobody is cool with him and really likes him.

oh TRIPP u dont sound any alpha at all to me and if i see any lil signs of alphaism in u, its because u azttemp and try to cuz u read so but u aint that by nature. u too much scared and worried. this is how i picture u: u go to a club and arrive at 10 p.m. at 10:25 pm u drink 1 beer. only one for the whole night. at 1:30 a.m. u bout to leave the club but go to a police officer and tell him that u had 1 beer and if that would be ok and if he would mind to have a alcohol test with u....

playa where i grew u have to be alpha male otherwise u get raped in the ass. and my anus is still virgin, aight?!!

....Omg I understand you may be mad but learn to type please! I have no idea what the hell you're trying to say! So far what I've gotten is shee told you how much of a jerk he was (DUH! She's mad at you, of course she's going to talk shit) but that doesn't mean you have the right to treat him like shit

[azazels_wolf]

Moving this thread to Fight Club, unfortunately.

[Tay Tay]

Moving this thread to Fight Club, unfortunately.

It was only a matter of time before it happened..I'm actually quite surprised it didn't happen sooner

[Nice_Boy]

She told me how bad she needs sex, that shes off sex for 7 months and that my friend has a very small penis and sex with him is soo bullshit etc

Seriously dude. She is trying to destroy your friendship.

Heres my advice for you.

Tell her to fuck off and dont let her use you like this.
Get another woman and thats all you need.
Hang out with your friend and give a shit about her.

And by the way. The penis thing.
I bet that his is as big as yours.
Pure guess you know :D

Anyway later on she will take revenge on her husband and say something like
I had sex with you friend bla bla bla............................................
And then you are gonna have a fight with your mate bla bla bla...........
I think you understand my point.

But since you was so popular at school then I guess you got only bitches fighting for you and not real girls that did not want to be with you.

[Ricky Fitts]

Bro's before Hoe's!

[DateDemon]

When you are a PUA in the community and you can get girls it is very easy to find yourself attracted to girls like your FW. WHY? BECAUSE THEY ARE UNNATTAINABLE they are your friends wife and you can not hook up with her though thats a social construction not a physical obstruction. that is fine to be attracted to her, it happens and its fine to sometimes flirt with someone you know you shouldnt. You took it too far though man. You just can't cross that line. I have been in a similar situation I know where you are coming from and I garauntee you especially with how spaced out this interaction was you knew what you were doing and somehow you ignored your logic on it and just went ahead. Normally guys that do this find themself hooking up with a friends ex or something not a big deal but you remarkably somehow justified your friends wife.

If you want advice... STOP TALKING ABOUT IT and never tell anyone again, thats the kind of thing you take the grave man. It would also be wise to stay on at least barely talking terms with her just to be sure that she is not going to let this leak. You fucked up royally and all you can do now is damage control. its like a UFO landing and you are the government as far as you or anyone is concerned it never happened and if any evidence looks about to leak you should do damage control and then forget it ever happened again

[checkers]

You were seduced. Plain and simple. While I won't applaud your actions, I won't condemn you to hell here.

What you did was wrong in the sense that she was your (former or not) friends' wife. What she did wrong was knowingly seduce a friend of his to get 'back' at him (from the sound of it). It's not a desireable situation to be in surely, not at all.

I understand where YOU'RE coming from from an objective standpoint because it's been a long time, and you're not in touch as well.

I believe in Karma man, so, I'd be watching my back if I were you.

[luminova]

bail, cut contact with him, leave the situation. he's not that close of a friend, and their marriage was doomed. if not you it would've been someone else. as i said, bail. get away and let their marriage crash apart separately from you. you don't want to get sucked into this drama.

do i think sleeping with married women is good? no, but stealing the furnishings from a sinking ship is nowhere near as bad as drilling the hole. you didn't blow up their marriage, it was sinking anyways. i loathe the idea of violating the sanctity of marriage, but it was already violated if she's out looking for sex. you didn't pull the trigger there.
just try not to knowingly do it again. it attracts too much bad drama to be worth it, especially when you could have any single HB out there.

[2Retro]

Bros before hoes man, Bros before hoes:(

[L.A. Tripp]

How does this thread keep getting revived? LOL

[Flux]

from your sloppy writing i half assed read your thread. The fact of the matter is man, if you actually FUCKED your friends wife without it being a horribly drunk moment, then you have absolutely no sense of loyalty, friendship, or brotherhood with your friend. So if that's the case, Keep fucking her.
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[jadler]

Sounds to me like this is a situation that only you can suffer through. I believe that everyone creates thier own suffering and punishments. From what I can tell I think you are doing a good job of it so far.

I mean, I could tell you to practice a pennance of some sort, but would you really feel better? Probably not man, so do what you feel you need to do.

If you feel bad, follow that. If not, then follow that. Only you can ever dig yourself out from something you created.

[L.A. Tripp]

Has anyone cared to look at the date of the original post before you respond . . . and notice that he's no longer posting on this thread?

LMAO.

[soma2]

from your sloppy writing i half assed read your thread. The fact of the matter is man, if you actually FUCKED your friends wife without it being a horribly drunk moment, then you have absolutely no sense of loyalty, friendship, or brotherhood with your friend. So if that's the case, Keep fucking her.:confused:


PUAs: good writing matters!!! The quote above re-written in standard, punctuated English:

Due to your sloppy writing, I read your thread in a half-assed way. The fact is this: if you fucked your friend's wife in anything but a drunken moment, then you have no sense of loyalty, friendship, or brotherhood. If that is the case, forget the friend and keep fucking his wife.

Women appreciate and judge you on your ability to write coherently, punctuate and spell.

[TheRuffian]

okay, so first off you were trapped, and she was looking, and you didn't pull out which was wrong, she hadn't been layed for 7 months??? I doubt it. she prolly cheated on him before that, read sperm wars it'll tell you that it was going to happen. The bad thing is that yes this was your friends wife, question though, was this friend a Wing? a guy who at one point was actually in the community or just a past friend?

I have to say no it was not alpha of you. she was looking to get fucked and you were an easy target. it was a warm approach on her part and it sounds like she initiated all the progressive movement.

this guy is obviously no longer a friend. due to the fact that you didn't realize what was going on or you just wanted to get layed.

you shouldn't recieve any emotional responce from what happened, don't let it break you and don't let it give you an ego, look at it as a lesson to be learned.

[11.9%AFC]

wow talk about resisting temptations...