High School

[Magic]

Yes, high school.

Unlike universities, high schools have less people which makes it harder to sarge at them. My school has around 1,000 total students. Half of the 1,000 are girls, the other half guys. So of the 500 girls that we have, only half of them are HBs. So of the 250 HBs we do have, most of them already are dating someone! That leaves around 100 HBs in the WHOLE school to game.

As you can tell our school is fairly small, which means you see everybody almost everyday. There are lots of consequences, meaning your game has to be near perfect if you want to sarge here. You can't use the same lines more then once with anyone. Eventually, you're going to have to stop used canned lines and make up your own (if you don't already).

Also, don't limit yourself to school. If there are teen clubs in your area, go to them! If there are skating rinks, go to them! For day game you can go to malls or social gatherings, like sports games. And that reminds me, go to your schools sports games! If your not on the team, you should be in the stands.

Here are some guidelines I made real quick:


Be Social.
Be Entergetic.
Get involved in clubs or teams.
Be friends with the coolest kids in school.
If you have a group you hang out with, be the leader.
Dress well & Clean well, no one wants to talk to you if you smell or look like crap.
Be cocky/funny, this works well in high school.
Be interesting, no one likes talking to a boring guy.


I'm also looking for your opinion and anything to add. Post up your tips on becoming the alpha male in high school.

~Magic

[RobLaughter]

When I was in high school, I was successful with being the recognized alpha male in several groups. Granted, they all had their "leaders," but I'd float from group to group, stealing attention as I came in. Social cliques are nothing more than long-term "sets." Game them!

Granted, this was a little easier for me because my school had only 500 people.

[Yoda]

Our school has a population of around 3,700.

Although your HB ratio is much better than ours, I think we have more HBs in total.

In highschool, more than anything, the leader of men switch is in effect, almost always.

[Dragon]

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[AJNY]

A few other things.

1. Take improv.
2. Take dance lessons (the ratio is strong)
3. Take photography (the ratio is strong)
4. Take theater (the ratio is strong - will help you perform)
5.Treat everyone well - Bill Clinton was fat and unathletic,
but he coulod win over different groups in HS with his charm.
He lost the HS president election, but built a stron network/set of friends.



Be Social.
Be Entergetic.
Get involved in clubs or teams.
Be friends with the coolest kids in school.
If you have a group you hang out with, be the leader.
Dress well & Clean well, no one wants to talk to you if you smell or look like crap.
Be cocky/funny, this works well in high school.
Be interesting, no one likes talking to a boring guy.


I'm also looking for your opinion and anything to add. Post up your tips on becoming the alpha male in high school.

~Magic

[Dream]

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Originally Posted by Magic View Post
1) Be friends with the coolest kids in school.
2) If you have a group you hang out with, be the leader.
3) Be cocky/funny, this works well in high school.
4) Be interesting, no one likes talking to a boring guy.
5) Be Entergetic.
These on the otherhand I don't agree with..There very general and they may work for you but trust me when I say they don't apply to me. I'm not trying be a a$$hole here..fine maybe I am (no hard feelings) but heres my view.

1) You make friends with the coolest kids in school...so what, your not going be cool just by hanging around them, it may help you but you need to socalize with everyone before I say your cool...you can be in the cool group but who cares if hes cool if you can't talk to him, everyone is cool differantly, its just how the convey it.

2) Again its good, but not nessary you can let others be the leader, thats how they know your the leader...a quiet leader is more alpha than those AMOG leaders in my opinon since everyone knows thier trying, the meek ones just attract people, that doesn't mean let others step on you

3)C&F again..yes it works but you don't have to, I know I hardly use any and I'm good, just get to know them...I won't say I don't C&F but when I do its not planned, it "just happened"

4) Be interesting...well man thats a general guideline again, how do you BE interesting..note I didn't say BECOME, everyone in my mind is interesting again its just how they convey it, the nerd can be interesting if he conveys it right. Passions are interesting, knowing yourself is interesting, getting to know others is interesting..I can list tons but the point is your ALREADY interesting just convey it.

5)HAHA! Dude..everyone that knows me says I'm too relaxed..I'm not even close to energetic, yet I'm doing well. Again if you are cool..but if you aren't naturally why bother?


Im going to have to counter argue dragon, or agree with the original whichever floats your boat.

1)Highschool is a very tight, tight knit social setting. It works like a pyramid. Be friends with the coolest kids in school (highest value anyways, cool is hard to define), it will only help you. That said be friendly to people outside the clique, but being in the top group will get you laid like a rockstar.

2) Be a leader, period. There are 2 ways to be a leader. Be the center of everything (try not to be a tyrant though), or be the judge of the person in the lead. Either way your not some quiet nerd in a corner.

3)Cocky funny works fucking wonders in highschool, its an awesome trait at any age but at this young its fuckin money. Thats it, no arguement. Dragon, i have to ask, WHY are you good? Are you getting good results?

4) Chances are if your new to this forum, your not interesting. Your young, inexpeirnced, and dont have much going on. Solution? Fake it till you make it, and keep fucking trying. Join some clubs and what not. Find a place to cold approach, learn it.

5) Most guys in highschool are always "tired". Dont be. Be energetic. Theres always more than one way to slice an apple but being energetic while being cocky/funny is just murderous in highschool. That said, dont be a try hard, just be wide eyed and bushy tailed every morning :D

[Dragon]

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[Yoda]

Highschool is a good time to learn game. That way you'll have it down upon entering the real world.

The last semester of Highschool is golden. Their are no consenquences (almost). :o

[Vincent Chase]

Don't Game In High School.


There's an entire world apart from the confines of your high-school, do not mingle the two, education and seduction/social arts.

[ELMAGICO]

my advice is try diffrent frames in high scbool i tried alpha and badboy and most social guy experiment it is after all only high school

[Cedar]

...of the 250 HBs we do have, most of them already are dating someone! That leaves around 100 HBs in the WHOLE school to game...

1. Highschool is a great place to game. It's a HORIBBLE place to LEARN game. Run your newbie mission elsewhere. Congruency issues in a closed environment like this will kill you.

2. Don't discount girls that are seeing someone. They're fair game.

...You can't use the same lines more then once with anyone. Eventually, you're going to have to stop used canned lines and make up your own (if you don't already)...

Sounds like a self limiting belief. ie, you're not saying this because you've run into it in field. You're saying it because you believe it. I say bullshit. Use canned material just fine. But recognize you'll open every girl in school in the first few weeks. After which, you should not be retelling stories.

Be Social.
Be Entergetic.
Get involved in clubs or teams.
Be friends with the coolest kids in school.
If you have a group you hang out with, be the leader.
Dress well & Clean well, no one wants to talk to you if you smell or look like crap.
Be cocky/funny, this works well in high school.
Be interesting, no one likes talking to a boring guy.


1. Careful with clubs. Choose things the girls you want like. Not something your inner dork wants.

2. Don't befirend the coolest kids in school. Stop caring about who's cool...and you'll become the coolest kid in school. Slow down, take it easy and keep life in perspective.

3. Don't obsess about being the leader. Anyone TRYING to be a leader isn't a leader.

[Groom]

Don't Game In High School.


There's an entire world apart from the confines of your high-school, do not mingle the two, education and seduction/social arts.

Often it is said to keep gaming and work apart (work in this case being school)
I go to a private school, with about 30 people in one year, I'm last year, so with the two years below, thatsums up to about 50 girls and 10-15 HBs. Everybody knows eachother, many years ago I used to be popular, but later I got blown out (that was a few years ago) by a HB a class below where I had one-itis *spanking myself*
So the pre-selection is gone, I have never been the leader of my class/friends (its the same), and that is a nearly impossible goal.
The only change I made is to go an individual route, not doing everything my friends do.

Now comes the but: I'm successful in the field, out of school. Its really weird being so beta in school and alpha in the field, but it works.

But of course, if the school has over 1000 students, it may be different, as not everybody knows eachother and you will have a chance of becoming a leader a respected individual and being blown out once isnt that bad, but dont let it happen too often

[Dragon]

Often it is said to keep gaming and work apart (work in this case being school)
I go to a private school, with about 30 people in one year, I'm last year, so with the two years below, thatsums up to about 50 girls and 10-15 HBs. Everybody knows eachother, many years ago I used to be popular, but later I got blown out (that was a few years ago) by a HB a class below where I had one-itis *spanking myself*
So the pre-selection is gone, I have never been the leader of my class/friends (its the same), and that is a nearly impossible goal.
The only change I made is to go an individual route, not doing everything my friends do.

Now comes the but: I'm successful in the field, out of school. Its really weird being so beta in school and alpha in the field, but it works.

But of course, if the school has over 1000 students, it may be different, as not everybody knows eachother and you will have a chance of becoming a leader a respected individual and being blown out once isnt that bad, but dont let it happen too often

Groom I feel your pain man. I WAS in a private school of 100, but still it was in the middle of nowhere, I was the only kid in the private school who made friends in the public school in the town. Good memories..but still I was in exactly in the same position as ya, alpha outside school, beta in it. Thankfully I'm out now ;) . You got support though man, props going through it.

Best, Dragon

[Vincent Chase]

I have never been the leader of my class/friends (its the same), and that is a nearly impossible goal.


Once you're outside of highschool that social circle become useless anyways, plus you just blew all that time BUILDING social circle that now you're semi-retarded, nort prepared for the real world NOR are you connected. Connections and networking done outside of your school will last after school, too. PLUS, ofr the most part people use school as a meeting grounds, how often do you see the people outside of school? Fuck school.

It's really not worth your time to bother gaming there man, learn there. I can't tell you how many guys are like:
"My grades are slipping because of pick-up during class, what do I do?"

Uh... how about: STOP!

"The whole school thinks i'm a dumbass because I got rejected, how could I have prevented this?"

By NOT having tried in School, where the closed relationship you have with other people is harsh on the social climate.

"I became the most popular guy in school but when I go out... no-one knows me... Why?"
"I managed to rule the school my senior year, but now i'm graduated and nothings popping! What's wrong?"

Simple, the most popular guy in school is probably going to end up driving a septic truck through the fuckin' country-side.

Simple, the most popular guy in school isn't the most popular guy in the world, you just wasted you damn time.

Simple, the social circle you build in high-school rarely lasts past high-school, SURPRISE!

Here's an equation, you have 365 days in year, half of which is dominated by the school year. Multiply this by three (Sophomore-Senior.)
365*1/2*3= X~548

Now, we'll assume that somewhere in there you managed to become one of the leaders of your school. You master the major social circle and you can fuck any chick you want, faculty or student.

Now we assume that you've graduated, you move on to college and you only know 12 people from High-School and you only hung out with 3. You're introduced to a social climate with THOUSANDS more people than high-school and you're all alone. You're not used to new settings because you spent all your time gaming in ONE social climate. You now have to adjust (Freshman Year) then begin building yourself again (Sophomore-Senior-[Onward.]) You're 18 years old.

Let's assume you learned about seduction when you were 15.

That's three years, actually we'll say you're TURNING 19 and just round to four years.

4*365=1460 Days.

That you FINALLY started getting good about two months in:
1460-60= 1400

Now let's say that outside of school you didn't really game much, maybe two days a week, for a year, that's ~96 days. We'll round that too 100:

1300.

Now divide how much time you spent gaming in high-school, by how many days you've had .

548/1300=~.421= 42%

And now all that is gone. You just BLEW 42% of the possible time you could have been building legitimate social circle and getting GOOD practice.

Approx. 8% of the time you COULD HAVE HAD was used gaming outside of school.

the other 50% of the time, was wasted. Maybe because you gamed in school and were socially exhausted, I dunno.

Now, you barely got into college because your grades sucked dick. Now we measure worth.

X= Everything you lost
Y= Every thing you gained

Now, you gained seduction experience by gaming in school. BUT you lost out on cold sets, a useful social network, limited targets, , hotter chicks, good grades, a life outside of school, lot's of homeschooled/rival school pussy and etc.

That's:

X DIvided by Y Multiplied by, HOLY FUCKIN SHIT!





Your whole seduction life has been wasted and now you're THAT much closer to the real world, and you have to start all over. Everything you taught yourself about game, everything you're accustomed to, ALL OF IT, goes out the fuckin' window and now you're stripped of your tools, your clothes, I'm talking EVERYTHING.

It's almost like you were never there.


Yeah, I can see why gaming in high school crosses your mind. "You're already there." If you want to pick-up chicks there, START getting real social, all that jazz, then WICKED SICK DUDE! I'm glad for you! Do THAT! But don't let the rest of your life suffer and miss out on the real world, miss out on everything outside of school because of it.

You starting to catch my drift?
School is for school dude, just fuckin' SCHOOL it up. High-school licks balls, I KNOW! I've been there. Just try not to fuck up and focus the majority of your time gaming there.

[Dragon]

Once you're outside of highschool that social circle become useless anyways, plus you just blew all that time BUILDING social circle that now you're semi-retarded, nort prepared for the real world NOR are you connected. Connections and networking done outside of your school will last after school, too. PLUS, ofr the most part people use school as a meeting grounds, how often do you see the people outside of school? Fuck school.

It's really not worth your time to bother gaming there man, learn there. I can't tell you how many guys are like:
"My grades are slipping because of pick-up during class, what do I do?"

Uh... how about: STOP!

"The whole school thinks i'm a dumbass because I got rejected, how could I have prevented this?"

By NOT having tried in School, where the closed relationship you have with other people is harsh on the social climate.

"I became the most popular guy in school but when I go out... no-one knows me... Why?"
"I managed to rule the school my senior year, but now i'm graduated and nothings popping! What's wrong?"

Simple, the most popular guy in school is probably going to end up driving a septic truck through the fuckin' country-side.

Simple, the most popular guy in school isn't the most popular guy in the world, you just wasted you damn time.

Simple, the social circle you build in high-school rarely lasts past high-school, SURPRISE!

Here's an equation, you have 365 days in year, half of which is dominated by the school year. Multiply this by three (Sophomore-Senior.)
365*1/2*3= X~548

Now, we'll assume that somewhere in there you managed to become one of the leaders of your school. You master the major social circle and you can fuck any chick you want, faculty or student.

Now we assume that you've graduated, you move on to college and you only know 12 people from High-School and you only hung out with 3. You're introduced to a social climate with THOUSANDS more people than high-school and you're all alone. You're not used to new settings because you spent all your time gaming in ONE social climate. You now have to adjust (Freshman Year) then begin building yourself again (Sophomore-Senior-[Onward.]) You're 18 years old.

Let's assume you learned about seduction when you were 15.

That's three years, actually we'll say you're TURNING 19 and just round to four years.

4*365=1460 Days.

That you FINALLY started getting good about two months in:
1460-60= 1400

Now let's say that outside of school you didn't really game much, maybe two days a week, for a year, that's ~96 days. We'll round that too 100:

1300.

Now divide how much time you spent gaming in high-school, by how many days you've had .

548/1300=~.421= 42%

And now all that is gone. You just BLEW 42% of the possible time you could have been building legitimate social circle and getting GOOD practice.

Approx. 8% of the time you COULD HAVE HAD was used gaming outside of school.

the other 50% of the time, was wasted. Maybe because you gamed in school and were socially exhausted, I dunno.

Now, you barely got into college because your grades sucked dick. Now we measure worth.

X= Everything you lost
Y= Every thing you gained

Now, you gained seduction experience by gaming in school. BUT you lost out on cold sets, a useful social network, limited targets, , hotter chicks, good grades, a life outside of school, lot's of homeschooled/rival school pussy and etc.

That's:

X DIvided by Y Multiplied by, HOLY FUCKIN SHIT!





Your whole seduction life has been wasted and now you're THAT much closer to the real world, and you have to start all over. Everything you taught yourself about game, everything you're accustomed to, ALL OF IT, goes out the fuckin' window and now you're stripped of your tools, your clothes, I'm talking EVERYTHING.

It's almost like you were never there.


Yeah, I can see why gaming in high school crosses your mind. "You're already there." If you want to pick-up chicks there, START getting real social, all that jazz, then WICKED SICK DUDE! I'm glad for you! Do THAT! But don't let the rest of your life suffer and miss out on the real world, miss out on everything outside of school because of it.

You starting to catch my drift?
School is for school dude, just fuckin' SCHOOL it up. High-school licks balls, I KNOW! I've been there. Just try not to fuck up and focus the majority of your time gaming there.

LMAO! Thats hidden gold right there folks. Hint* Social circle are useless unless you do it properly.

[claudius]

Don't Game In High School.


There's an entire world apart from the confines of your high-school, do not mingle the two, education and seduction/social arts.

Yeah, I try to keep the people I sarge as farrrrrrrrr away from my high school social circles/grade as possible. I'm in second semester of my senior year now. Once my sports season's over I'm going to have the opportunity to sarge everyday. :)

Edit: Didn't read the second post you had at first glance, Vin. All too often an "alpha male" of a highschool class will wind up in a college and all the beliefs he had about himself are slowly destroyed.

[Eterud]

Don't Game In High School.


There's an entire world apart from the confines of your high-school, do not mingle the two, education and seduction/social arts.
I totally Disagree, high school is the place to practice your "seduction" skills and your "Social" skills.

if you don't get a chick: people still see that yougot the balls to approach them + They'll probably go to talk to you when you meet them at going out,
wich improves the so called "Social" status that others will see in you on both places.

If you do get a chick it's even better.

in High school there is no lose-situation. only win situations.

If there is, what would be a better place to practise following you ;)

[Vincent Chase]

If you don't get a chick: people still see that yougot the balls to approach them + They'll probably go to talk to you when you meet them at going out,
wich improves the so called "Social" status that others will see in you on both places.

LMFAO!

Wow, dude. Okay then. Go for it, it's a win-win situation for you.

In the end, I'm not going to tell you what to do, i'm not your fucking mother. Let me just put it this way:

"School is for schoolin, Guns are for hunting, Sidewalks are for walking, and were made for fuckin. But you don't go fuckin' in school, you don't go fuckin' a gun and you DAMN sure ain't going to rally no pussy on any damned fuckin' sidewalk in this town. Now, get the fuck out of here before I cut your little pecker off."

[DietCoke]

I switched from an all boys high school to a coed one at the beginnning of this year. Major change. Luckily over the summer I was looking for ways to better myself and came across mystery method and got heavily into it. For starters I think the most important thing is remembering that in highschool if you fuck up you fuck up big time. I mean word gets around, and if your friendly with any girls in your school you know that they gossip more then we do. Second Highschool in my opinion is all about confidence, I laugh everyday when I see these pricks saying how hot a girl is and they don't have the balls to even talk to her! Why be afraid of how shes going to react. I mean im not that good looking, yet i have a an extremely pretty gf. why? I think the reason is because of my confidence, and the fact that I just don't give a shit about what the girl looks like. Ill go up to her and be my usual cocky/funny self. ( also funny thing is now that Ive been going out with this HB other girls are starting to talk to me, and i haven't given them the time of day before. I demonstrated value inadvertely by showing pre-selection. ) alright I can rant about this for a long time and it's not going to flow so Im just stopping now. If you need and advice or can not understand a word I wrote then PM me. so yeah. Basically don't fuck up, and Confidence. are all you need to get laid or hook up in highschool.
John :)

[ride]

Okay class has anyone heard of INDIRECT GAME? Damn it you guys sound like a bunch of wound up pussies! Nice shoes wanna fcuk (intentional misspelling) isn’t okay anywhere, especially in HS. Direct game is for:

A. guys that are really congruent and good at game, if you don’t know if you are, you aren’t.

B. Places where you have no consequences.

Use indirect game. Flirt with all the girls; tell them they should tag along to something cool. Don't telegraph too much interest. A huge mistake I made and see all the time is everyone is all into SARGING. Screw that. Be a cool guy that has fun. Sarging make you a dickhead in my opinion (and me too) like you are out to conquer something, it always put me in the wrong headspace.

AFC's look way worse every day because everyone knows they are pining over some girl. Just be a cool guy that talks to guys and girls and is cool. Don’t be an ass clown and everything will be fine.

Even if you DO hugely mess up and get ridiculed in HS you will be fine in life.

Really.

[Dream]

It seems to me that people responding in this thread are hit and miss for actual knowledge, and armchair kj theory.

Heres what I did.

Found asf in october.
Started testing out little things, namely negs, kino, and little games.
This went on for a while, i slowly, very slowly became more social ( i was very UNSOCIAL).
After repetedley being hassled by my "friends" one finally believed that I found somethnig cool and started "sarging" with me.
This included extreemley bad approaches in malls and at night on the beach/shopping center (mild street game).
Started getting a little better, occasionally I wouldnt fall down or break out in sweat on the approach and the set would open.
very slowly got better, didnt do much in school though.
Sarged beach during day a few times.
While sarging beach one day opened a set that had a co-worker in it. Everything fell into place, Full closed the girl that was with him a week and a half later, hb9.
She went to my school.
Word spread fast.
Went from zero to hero, 2 weeks later school ended.
Went to orlando and began my newbie mission hardcore.

The end.