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12-29-2008, 04:19 AM
OK, this is gonna be a short one.
Sean MESSANGER (not Newman whoops)
Formerly of PU101.
Now has his own one man op, teaching rapport centred game, operating out of Miami.
I think his a little cheaper now his parted with 101.
http://www.lvo3.com/home/
interaction1
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OK his just roleplayed the girl curious about dog transition to talking about himself.
This is soooo natural, it's the anti-Sinn.
And he has really understood the medium.
If you walk a dog frequently and woman open you on it, then this IS the DVD on dog game. Natural dog game.
Newman is fun. His improving with Mehow.
Recap time, Mehow is being a bit long winded now,
Sean looks like Santa Clauss, with his red cheeks and smiley mouth.
This is the best infield footage I've seen from the 101 camp.
26.30
Sean Newman is good with women.
This is interesting. His thrown the dice, gone direct, and she's not bitten, sticking to the bf.
Yet his saying he can play a different role to him.
Sean is really well calibrated in his interaction with Mehow.
I dunno about all this. Gia, the first set, well it looks like a great set. But in my old direct days, sometimes it would be this good. I'd walk away the girl would feel validated and attractive, and happy and great.
And I'd have lost. She would have rejected me. And that's how it was. I'm not Jesus, I want sex some time. And direct gives girls good feelings but definitely not choice with women.
I'm loathe to be harsh, because he seems like a lovely person, with lots to teach, and the interaction was great - but ultimately he lost.
interaction2
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Second set, he walked away not because he was tired but because he didn't want to cheapen the first interaction with the origional girl - didn't want to lessen her good will towards him, her good feelings. That's what I reckon. That was the mentality I had in my direct days. Maybe its a cost of being genunine rather than routine based. You make this investment, and the return you get is her happiness, and you don't want to throw away that return away, even though the return is inadequate. Being genunine fucks up game.
interaction3 most important set
=======================
Ok, third interaction, loving this, doesn't feel like the girl has all the power and the validation.
Uhoh, boyfriend phones. This interaction is screwed.
NO WAAAAY
HB [on phone]: I've just met a dog.
Newman is back in!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:)
This is a great great rapport episode.
Sean's got a great gay routine. Very cool.
Interesting relationship discussion. Very mature. And romantic.
Zan line.... pffft.
Put Zan on and Mehow might make his game practical.
Zan won't mechanise what he does because that would be ugly to women, and his identity is teaching men so he would have to talk about it. So we need other people to make Zan game useable, like Sean here. Or maybe one day Mehow in infield insider.
Well calibrated cold read.
Mr Newman is very good. I mean this is a random thing, but something pegged to what she's saying, so it is natural and conversational.
Very very good.
Mehow needs to stop playing with his face. He hasn't said 'microlooping' or 'value' for at least 50 minutes so his probably doubting his alive.
Mehow is summarising, good.
Newman is going off on philosphy, this is slowing things down.
Good question by Mehow, about IODs. A quesiton bourne of field experience.
Sean, like Style, doesn't plow. He gives them a chance, and if they don't like him, he walks.
Good demo of how to respond to kids.
This is serendipitous. And really helpful thing to show you how to react to kids in the field.
Basically be a woman to kids.
Great great example of how to respond.
Thanks Sean! Style says 'be flexible', Sean is here.
chick crack topic
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Sean: do you have kids?
Sean goes off on a kids thread, really interesting, actually boldly shooting off along the kids thread. The girl is all smiles.
This makes the interaction go super-nova fantastic.
Interesting discussion of how to make a girl accept a FAP. Talking with you, rather than 'we will'. Keep yourself out the picture.
Sean sees this as sexual flirtation. But cuts back to conversation, as flirting is icing.
Sean is funny. Probably the funniest guest Mehow has had. Although Hypnotica amogging/teaching Mehow was hilarious. I fell off my chair.
I reckon Sean has tighter deep comfort than Mehow.
Mehow, with his chase cycling, is always looking away, 'take aways', but really his disengaging to figure out what his gonna say next.
What he wants to do next.
Sean, concentrating on being real and saying something of meaning to him - emotional resonant to him, doesn't have the flaw of the super-strategist.
Watch Moonstruck.
This is a lovely interaction.
Yeah she does look really good, love the red top.
There's some old dude listening in on this conversation!!!
So what's the point now of this interaction? He can't escalate during the day, his not moving her. I mean its great... but nothing is accomplished, apart from spending conversational topics.
He is accepting of everything she is saying. Felt Sinn failed in this slightly - he insulted where a woman was from. Sean wouldn't do that, Sinn is comedy trained, and Sean is rapport trained. It is superior to accept all her offers.
Another interrupt.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
More quality dog lines from Sean.
Dogs are humping each other in the ear.
Nice.
She is seeking logistics from Sean 'what are you doing tonight?'
And setting up a time bridge.
Sean is being useless.... pffffft.
Get it together Sean. You're playing it too cool. Sort out this timebridge. Fucking tease.
She's allright. I guess she knows it on. But this is boggling, his pushing her away, constantly. And she's asked him out!
This is a problem. His disqualfying her, so how is he going to close from this?
Find out $80, www.infieldinsider.com/vault
Holy shit! The boyfriend just showed. He looks weird.
10 second mute.
More kids.
Nice dealing with her friends stuff
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Fill them up with facts, to get them comfortable and on your side later.
His creating social pressure for his target to date him by winning the friends.
Serendipitous again. The one thing we might have missed by it being day game, dealing with friends, materialises and we see Newman handle it - chill and cool and natural.
More dog game. Interesting if you need to interact with a girls dog. Camera angle a bit crap, so missing action a little.
Camera angle now sorted. But we can just copy the girls reaction to the dog anyway. Reverse dog game, no dog, the pua makes the fuss, I want to see that next time please Sean.
Great timebridge to another city. She's buying in.
Phone punching. Taking some time. Sean's got to remember what his name is this week.
Conclusion
=========
I'm so glad Sean quit the night game and asked to do daygame. Because he does rapport and connecting, and night game its more of a struggle to hear the woman's words against the ambient noise, and the club ADD would have just not shown his game at its most educational.
Sean couldn't do it any better, as far as manifesting his philosophy on footage.
Shut up and connect yo!
This felt like a good value episode of infield insider. The first interaction had some value.
The second interaction was lame.
The third was great. One or two bits of Sean's philisophy was worth listening too. The stuff towards the end of the third interaction.
Overall it felt like Christmas dinner, after I felt stuffed.
'with value'.
Now the most important bit.
Mehow's fashion
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Nice T-shirt. Looks good. The gold stuff on it. And the royal purple jacket. Mehow just needs a gimp mask and he could be an aristocrat.
What's with that hat though? Is Mehow a sailor? Looks like ship rigging gone wrong.
Beautiful conclusion here. Pathos. What a lovely man Sean is. I want to be Sean's dog.
Sean MESSANGER (not Newman whoops)
Formerly of PU101.
Now has his own one man op, teaching rapport centred game, operating out of Miami.
I think his a little cheaper now his parted with 101.
http://www.lvo3.com/home/
interaction1
=========
OK his just roleplayed the girl curious about dog transition to talking about himself.
This is soooo natural, it's the anti-Sinn.
And he has really understood the medium.
If you walk a dog frequently and woman open you on it, then this IS the DVD on dog game. Natural dog game.
Newman is fun. His improving with Mehow.
Recap time, Mehow is being a bit long winded now,
Sean looks like Santa Clauss, with his red cheeks and smiley mouth.
This is the best infield footage I've seen from the 101 camp.
26.30
Sean Newman is good with women.
This is interesting. His thrown the dice, gone direct, and she's not bitten, sticking to the bf.
Yet his saying he can play a different role to him.
Sean is really well calibrated in his interaction with Mehow.
I dunno about all this. Gia, the first set, well it looks like a great set. But in my old direct days, sometimes it would be this good. I'd walk away the girl would feel validated and attractive, and happy and great.
And I'd have lost. She would have rejected me. And that's how it was. I'm not Jesus, I want sex some time. And direct gives girls good feelings but definitely not choice with women.
I'm loathe to be harsh, because he seems like a lovely person, with lots to teach, and the interaction was great - but ultimately he lost.
interaction2
=========
Second set, he walked away not because he was tired but because he didn't want to cheapen the first interaction with the origional girl - didn't want to lessen her good will towards him, her good feelings. That's what I reckon. That was the mentality I had in my direct days. Maybe its a cost of being genunine rather than routine based. You make this investment, and the return you get is her happiness, and you don't want to throw away that return away, even though the return is inadequate. Being genunine fucks up game.
interaction3 most important set
=======================
Ok, third interaction, loving this, doesn't feel like the girl has all the power and the validation.
Uhoh, boyfriend phones. This interaction is screwed.
NO WAAAAY
HB [on phone]: I've just met a dog.
Newman is back in!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:)
This is a great great rapport episode.
Sean's got a great gay routine. Very cool.
Interesting relationship discussion. Very mature. And romantic.
Zan line.... pffft.
Put Zan on and Mehow might make his game practical.
Zan won't mechanise what he does because that would be ugly to women, and his identity is teaching men so he would have to talk about it. So we need other people to make Zan game useable, like Sean here. Or maybe one day Mehow in infield insider.
Well calibrated cold read.
Mr Newman is very good. I mean this is a random thing, but something pegged to what she's saying, so it is natural and conversational.
Very very good.
Mehow needs to stop playing with his face. He hasn't said 'microlooping' or 'value' for at least 50 minutes so his probably doubting his alive.
Mehow is summarising, good.
Newman is going off on philosphy, this is slowing things down.
Good question by Mehow, about IODs. A quesiton bourne of field experience.
Sean, like Style, doesn't plow. He gives them a chance, and if they don't like him, he walks.
Good demo of how to respond to kids.
This is serendipitous. And really helpful thing to show you how to react to kids in the field.
Basically be a woman to kids.
Great great example of how to respond.
Thanks Sean! Style says 'be flexible', Sean is here.
chick crack topic
=============
Sean: do you have kids?
Sean goes off on a kids thread, really interesting, actually boldly shooting off along the kids thread. The girl is all smiles.
This makes the interaction go super-nova fantastic.
Interesting discussion of how to make a girl accept a FAP. Talking with you, rather than 'we will'. Keep yourself out the picture.
Sean sees this as sexual flirtation. But cuts back to conversation, as flirting is icing.
Sean is funny. Probably the funniest guest Mehow has had. Although Hypnotica amogging/teaching Mehow was hilarious. I fell off my chair.
I reckon Sean has tighter deep comfort than Mehow.
Mehow, with his chase cycling, is always looking away, 'take aways', but really his disengaging to figure out what his gonna say next.
What he wants to do next.
Sean, concentrating on being real and saying something of meaning to him - emotional resonant to him, doesn't have the flaw of the super-strategist.
Watch Moonstruck.
This is a lovely interaction.
Yeah she does look really good, love the red top.
There's some old dude listening in on this conversation!!!
So what's the point now of this interaction? He can't escalate during the day, his not moving her. I mean its great... but nothing is accomplished, apart from spending conversational topics.
He is accepting of everything she is saying. Felt Sinn failed in this slightly - he insulted where a woman was from. Sean wouldn't do that, Sinn is comedy trained, and Sean is rapport trained. It is superior to accept all her offers.
Another interrupt.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
More quality dog lines from Sean.
Dogs are humping each other in the ear.
Nice.
She is seeking logistics from Sean 'what are you doing tonight?'
And setting up a time bridge.
Sean is being useless.... pffffft.
Get it together Sean. You're playing it too cool. Sort out this timebridge. Fucking tease.
She's allright. I guess she knows it on. But this is boggling, his pushing her away, constantly. And she's asked him out!
This is a problem. His disqualfying her, so how is he going to close from this?
Find out $80, www.infieldinsider.com/vault
Holy shit! The boyfriend just showed. He looks weird.
10 second mute.
More kids.
Nice dealing with her friends stuff
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Fill them up with facts, to get them comfortable and on your side later.
His creating social pressure for his target to date him by winning the friends.
Serendipitous again. The one thing we might have missed by it being day game, dealing with friends, materialises and we see Newman handle it - chill and cool and natural.
More dog game. Interesting if you need to interact with a girls dog. Camera angle a bit crap, so missing action a little.
Camera angle now sorted. But we can just copy the girls reaction to the dog anyway. Reverse dog game, no dog, the pua makes the fuss, I want to see that next time please Sean.
Great timebridge to another city. She's buying in.
Phone punching. Taking some time. Sean's got to remember what his name is this week.
Conclusion
=========
I'm so glad Sean quit the night game and asked to do daygame. Because he does rapport and connecting, and night game its more of a struggle to hear the woman's words against the ambient noise, and the club ADD would have just not shown his game at its most educational.
Sean couldn't do it any better, as far as manifesting his philosophy on footage.
Shut up and connect yo!
This felt like a good value episode of infield insider. The first interaction had some value.
The second interaction was lame.
The third was great. One or two bits of Sean's philisophy was worth listening too. The stuff towards the end of the third interaction.
Overall it felt like Christmas dinner, after I felt stuffed.
'with value'.
Now the most important bit.
Mehow's fashion
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Nice T-shirt. Looks good. The gold stuff on it. And the royal purple jacket. Mehow just needs a gimp mask and he could be an aristocrat.
What's with that hat though? Is Mehow a sailor? Looks like ship rigging gone wrong.
Beautiful conclusion here. Pathos. What a lovely man Sean is. I want to be Sean's dog.