Venues for Under-21 PUAs

[RobLaughter]

So it's a little more difficult for us to get into bars and clubs being under the age of 21, and bookstores, malls and the like get old for me pretty quickly. Some ways I've found to expand my horizons have been:

Lying your way into bars:

Sure, it's not legal, but where do "ethics" belong in pickup? If you're going in with a group of guys over the age of 21, it's super-easy. I was in Viginia Beach not long ago sarging with some guys from the Richmond and Virginia Beach lairs and we decided to hit up Keegan's, a 21+ bar. I asked my wing, ElusivePuzzle, to tell the bouncer I'd forgotten my ID at the house. The following conversation ensued:

Bouncer: What's your birthdate?
Me: 5/18/84.
Bouncer: When did you graduate from high school?
Me: 2002.
Bouncer: What's your sign?
Me: Taurus.

The key is to answer each of the questions with the same tonality, pausing, and eye contact. If you can pass this test, you're good as gold.

Bribing the bouncer:

Again, not legal, but bouncers will often let you in if you ask, "how much?" At a local venue, the bouncer even tells you you can get in--for a price. I don't know how many of y'all are willing to drop $5-20 a night on that shit, though.

Concerts:

For the cheap, one word: MySpace. If you get friend requests from all of the annoying bands, accept some of them if they have shows coming up near you. Talk to them and you may get VIP treatment. f you play an instrument, chances are you can convince them to let you play with them (in a totally non-sexual way) on stage. Can you say "DHV?"

Gallery Hopping:

I'm not sure where you're from, but I'm in a college town and gallery hopping, touring art galleries on Friday evening, is a big thing. They often don't check your ID and offer free wine. Open bar? Yes please.

What else?

Share your ideas for going out with an underage ID and a college kid's budget here.

Ciao,
Rob

[TheCoolerKing]

The best thing to do for bars is to goto the ones without anyone checking for IDs AT THE DOOR.
I usually find that they never ID you at the bar....well from my experiences.

Also if you sit at a table do not order alcohol from a waitness.
They do ID.

Even though I put money down for a fake I'm always scared to use it.
Mostly due to that copying a federal document is a serious offenise.

[Realities]

I've always found that 18+ clubs work. The best part is its great practice for loud bars and 21+ clubs for later. You really have to project your voice in a club so you can use all the little tips and tricks the other PUAs talk about - not leaning in, secluding at a booth, that sort of thing.

Also house parties work, not as well because I refuse to pick up girls that are more then a little tipsy... and all the skinny girls get drunk quick.

[Dream]

My first peice of advice, dont underestimate a local grocery store on a sunday night in a college town. They dont ID, i promise :) .

There has to be an 18+ bar in almost every college town. I live in Orlando and there are tons. However I was 17 in the summer and had trouble getting in anywhere. So I went to teen nights, problem solved.

Heres a short story though, me and 2 wings tried to get into a 21 up bar. I walked up, shook hands with the bouncer and just walked in without hesitating, at 17 years old.

The two wings with me were both 19, got Ided and were not allowed in. Its not much different from cavemanning a chick, dont hesitate, just go with it. If they ask for your ID take it out like its totally normal and most of the time theyll just glance at it and not even check it. BE CONGRUENT.

Bribing the bouncer is always an option. Get a better job if your low on cash.

Befriending a bouncer isnt impossible but chances are if your underage hell smell it and barley acknowledge you. Once again, be congruent. Dont want anything from him. Ask him for tips on how to pickup chicks (feed his ego).

Or, get into a bar before they start carding and hide in the bathroom when they start turning the place into a club. (you cant do this in all places, but most resturaunts turn into clubs at night in big cities.)-credit to D.

[TheCoolerKing]

I've always found that 18+ clubs work. The best part is its great practice for loud bars and 21+ clubs for later. You really have to project your voice in a club so you can use all the little tips and tricks the other PUAs talk about - not leaning in, secluding at a booth, that sort of thing.

Also house parties work, not as well because I refuse to pick up girls that are more then a little tipsy... and all the skinny girls get drunk quick.
I honestly cant stand clubs. I only been to them a few times but it always the same.
Music is too loud, too aweful, and everyone is grinding up on someone else even before you walk in the door.
I much prefer a bar with it matrue chill atmosphere.


As for house parties I love them.
I did some of my best stuff at house parties...especally ones with themes.
Back at school my good friend and room mate is in a frat.
And I'm really tight with almost all of the guys in the frat.
They throw frat parties every now and then that are really good. But it wasnt until they started putting themes to their parties.

The first theme was "Army hoes and G.I. Joe's". What I did was I wore my avators with a green bandanna tied around my head. I then bought a pack of cigs and I put it in the bandanna.
Everyone was asking me for a cig. I made the girls like hold my drink or something for one (I didnt care giving them out...cause I dont smoke).
I was talking to everyone at that party. Too bad I got super drunk though.

I found that giving out cigs was a great AMOG disarm. I got bumped into and I spilled my drink on this HB9. She was with some alpha, I couldnt tell if they were together or if he was working her. But she was like "YOU SPILLED MY DRINK ON ME!!!" Then she ran away. I'm like oh shit... The alpha was left there. He was like "oh hey man, you gave me a cig!" And we talked for some time.
It was great.



Oh that reminds me.
Next party is "Ghetto Fab".
hahaha

My first peice of advice, dont underestimate a local grocery store on a sunday night in a college town. They dont ID, i promise :) .

There has to be an 18+ bar in almost every college town. I live in Orlando and there are tons. However I was 17 in the summer and had trouble getting in anywhere. So I went to teen nights, problem solved.

Heres a short story though, me and 2 wings tried to get into a 21 up bar. I walked up, shook hands with the bouncer and just walked in without hesitating, at 17 years old.

The two wings with me were both 19, got Ided and were not allowed in. Its not much different from cavemanning a chick, dont hesitate, just go with it. If they ask for your ID take it out like its totally normal and most of the time theyll just glance at it and not even check it. BE CONGRUENT.

Bribing the bouncer is always an option. Get a better job if your low on cash.

Befriending a bouncer isnt impossible but chances are if your underage hell smell it and barley acknowledge you. Once again, be congruent. Dont want anything from him. Ask him for tips on how to pickup chicks (feed his ego).

Or, get into a bar before they start carding and hide in the bathroom when they start turning the place into a club. (you cant do this in all places, but most resturaunts turn into clubs at night in big cities.)-credit to D.
Ya dude, I was just at a Barnes and Noble last Saturday.
Mad girls were checking out me and my friend.

I was surpised...


They were all like 15 but I was still surpised that they all would spend their Saturday nights hanging out at a bookstore until it closed.
At first I thought homework, but they were all over each other and talking about how their parents need to pick them up to be doing homework.

I just didnt understand it...
Too bad they were all 15 though.

[Magic]

Well skating rinks are a good place to go. The ones in my town have people all the way from like 5 years old to 30! Lots of HBs that go there are 14-18, you don't see many older HBs though. But it's good for young people ages like 5-18 lol. Haha imagine a 5 year old sarging just walking around picking up all these girls haha.

[Vincent Chase]

Everywhere you walk, everywhere you are, every store, eatery, event, venue everywhere is prime location for meeting new people. Constantly be alert to the social climate WHEREVER you are.

[Dragon]

Everywhere you walk, everywhere you are, every store, eatery, event, venue everywhere is prime location for meeting new people. Constantly be alert to the social climate WHEREVER you are.

I'll 2nd that.

[Yoda]

When your under 21, good venue's are limited.

The mall is pretty reliable though...

[RobLaughter]

The mall is pretty reliable though...

Mall game is my sticking point... I'm fine when I'm just browsing a store and strike up a conversation, but working the hallways is nearly impossible. Once I find a target that's not 12 years old or totally disgusting, it's difficult to stop the set.

Fucking underage mall hoes... Legal HB7+ chicks don't seem to consider the local mall a cool venue to hang out in, I guess.

[Yoda]

Hmmm don't quite have that problem in houston.

Where do you hail from?

[apg96]

If you want to get into bars, try and befriend a bouncer. I dont mean while they are at the door though. Many of them are big guys, their jobs depend on it, so they will be at the gym A LOT. So why not go up to someone that looks like the could be a bouncer and talk to them. Maybe ask them for ideas on a new exercise routine. Then ask them what they do. If they say they are a bouncer, ask them where, and then say you always wanted to go there but never got around to it. Ask him when he works. Most likely he will even say he can get you in, just find him there.

(This theory has not been tested)

[RobLaughter]

Where do you hail from?

I'm from NC. Not from a big city, so we don't have an abundance of extraordinarily hot chicks, but I do go to school at a stereotypically "hot" school.

If you want to get into bars, try and befriend a bouncer. I dont mean while they are at the door though. Many of them are big guys, their jobs depend on it, so they will be at the gym A LOT. So why not go up to someone that looks like the could be a bouncer and talk to them. Maybe ask them for ideas on a new exercise routine. Then ask them what they do. If they say they are a bouncer, ask them where, and then say you always wanted to go there but never got around to it. Ask him when he works. Most likely he will even say he can get you in, just find him there.

Too much work. Why do that when you can just talk your way in at the door?

[TheCoolerKing]

Too much work. Why do that when you can just talk your way in at the door?
There is always a chance that that wont work.



Its good to have a plan B.


And a plan C for that matter.

[Slick]

Where I'm from, I know sooooo many people in bands. It's rediculous. Just, befriend as many people as you can and your good.
Don't forget.. there's house parties, the beach, the park, etc...

[Hurricane7]

Ok guys, some great advice here, but what about fake IDs? I had a friend who made me a perfect fake ID a couple years ago (never really used it much at the time though), but it was lost about a year ago... Because I'm going away to university in the Fall, I've been thinking it would be a good idea to get a new one. My friend has moved, however, and I don't know if it's really worth the money to get someone else to make me one. Thoughts?... Oh, and what about those web sites that make them? You know, the ones in other countries where you have to pay like $100 dollars Western Union and they'll make you one from any state. Those sites claim their "novelty IDs" are indistinguishable from the real thing, even the magnetic strip scans with the right info... I think it would be worth the 100 bucks (and the risk of being ripped off) if it's that good... So what do you guys think? risk the $100? or should I just try the above tactics until I'm 21 in a few years?

-~-Hurricane

[BluesClues86]

The success of fake IDs varies from state to state, often depending on the regulations in those states. Texas IDs have about 30 different ways to detect fake IDs that are outlined in the TABC certification handbook, so it can be tough to fool someone who has experience. I don't think it's worth the risk of getting ripped off or getting busted.

Being under 21 myself, I stick primarily to house parties, public places like stores, etc. The 18+ clubs would probably be good practice though.

[claudius]

Places not mentioned:

Bar strips. Yes, bar strips. People bounce from bar to bar allllllll night.

How about local COLLEGE CAMPUSES? Great for a daytime sarge. Rule of thumb: the warmer it is, the more girls there are. Nice, high quality sets. Will calibrate you like a motherfucker, especially if you're still in high school.

[Dragon]

Places not mentioned:

Bar strips. Yes, bar strips. People bounce from bar to bar allllllll night.

How about local COLLEGE CAMPUSES? Great for a daytime sarge. Rule of thumb: the warmer it is, the more girls there are. Nice, high quality sets. Will calibrate you like a motherfucker, especially if you're still in high school.

Yep...even universities are good..how about the downtown area of your town and city, downtown is always the busiest place from what I've experienced.

[TheFlyingFinn]

Hello guys
Here some people borrow eachothers id's!! and it works most of the time.
I think that if you have a pivot with you and you walk arm in arm you will get in without any id.

[Anestis]

I just moved to Houston from Europe where all clubs are 18, not 21.
u can drink from 18 which makes it a lot easier to sneak in...

I started sneaking into clubs at a age of 15 without a single problem because I always brought some hot chicks who distracted the bouncer;)
Its pretty neat cause as his looking at your id(Which is your Real ID), she just has to start flirting with him.... if it dosent work, at least its your real Id and he cant take you for faking any id:P hehe
Now to get a chick to do tht isnt always to easy, but there are many other ways....

While your standing in the que start talking to people who are Wayyy older then you and make them youre friends for 5 minutes, just long enough for the bouncers to "think" that youre with them and therefore naturally their age or at least seem old enough;)

cant think of other ways right now, but hell I had the 5 min one work the other weekend:)
so try it, it usually works! but be confident, just as confident as you know your hearth is beating... if u can get that confident then there shouldnt be any problem:)

Peace