handling relationship with really hot girl- How?

[Latin Lover]

finally f-closed this girl. she teaches at the school i teach at. she one of the two hottest teachers there and everyone wants her. it took fucking ages to get her. always blowing hot and cold although admittedly i think she possibly had to dump another guy to get with me and has only got him out of her flat 3 months ago. in the end i completely decided to give up on her and didnt speak to her for 3 weeks after which she hunted me down and invited me out. then when we were out she told me i was 'welcome to stay at her house' - took me back and told me to fuck her hard! who's calling the shots here then? dont answer that. i really had to do serious frame control leading up to all that though. fucking hard work but fun.

anyway she's all calling me, texting me, making illusions to relationship. but then when it comes to weekend she says she cant see me unfortunately cos she has to prepare for a major interview both this weekend and the next weekend. fine. then i rang her tonight simply to see how her preparation had gone and she said she ended going out last night to a party.

ok admittedly it was only for an hour and perhaps i'm over reacting.

i just think if you were into someone you'd make time to see them after you'd hooked up.

WHERE IS THE BOOK ON HOW TO FRAME CONTROL ETC AFTER F-CLOSE.

i've read MM over and over for the last year and i am doing it all really well. but this shit is fucking with my head, seriously fucking with my head. i feel like an AFC again. i've got to the point where i dont alow myself to start getting into a girl but i started letting myself get into this girl cos it looked like it was going somewhere.

advice please. anyone?

[$oulCrusher]

Just make sure you don't come off needy or jealous

[azazels_wolf]

I agree, the neediness and jealousy is getting the better of you here, and you definitely don't want to do something that demonstrates that to her.

In reality, you obviously can't force her to go anywhere or do anything with you. She might actually be under a lot of career stress and time restriction, considering how slow everything else has gone with her. But you're right, she should make some time for you if she wants this to go anywhere.

You want to set the frame of being a fun, pleasant, non-needy guy who doesn't take things like this too seriously, but is still respectful. The best thing I can see to do here is to make this as easy as possible for her: Give her opportunities to allow her back into your reality without making special plans for HER. So invite her to different things in your life that you are already doing anyways, and use those activities as a way to DHV. If she doesn't accept, just brush it off and try again next time. Don't make a big deal out of it. If she goes TOO long without accepting any of your offers, just cut contact for awhile and see if she chases, so you'll see where you stand.

However, she does seem unsure exactly WHAT type of relationship she's looking for here, and it's possible that she might have some insecurity issues over the whole thing.

Hope that helps a bit.

[negatron]

the key is to not show your neediness and jealousy as everyone else so far has stated. I was in a very similar situation. I was f-closing this HB 9 on a regular basis. It was great, I could go out and bump into her, say whats up, show i had pre-selection by talking w/ other people and then bring her back and f-close. I had no worries in the world until finally I had to make a decision. It seemed like she was spending her time w/ someone else. I started making the effort to chill w/ her etc and she was always busy. I finally saw her hooking up w/ a dude at this one particular venue and it just got to me. seems weird considering i tried so hard not to get attached after the close, but i did get attached. I realize now that me showing the jealousy and neediness really DLV'ed myself. I talked to her the other day and she asked what happened because i told her off a bit when i saw her w/ the other guy. I didn't apologize but made it clear that it was a mistake and I acted unlike myself. I basically just shrugged it off as an anomly. the key is if I hadn't shown that jealousy i probably still have that F-buddy and if i hadn't gotten attached it wouldn't even matter. When you get into any type of relationship w/ a girl you should consider what you want out of it first and then stick w/ it. hope this helps

[The Wild One]

finally f-closed this girl. she teaches at the school i teach at. she one of the two hottest teachers there and everyone wants her. it took fucking ages to get her. always blowing hot and cold although admittedly i think she possibly had to dump another guy to get with me and has only got him out of her flat 3 months ago. in the end i completely decided to give up on her and didnt speak to her for 3 weeks after which she hunted me down and invited me out. then when we were out she told me i was 'welcome to stay at her house' - took me back and told me to fuck her hard! who's calling the shots here then? dont answer that. i really had to do serious frame control leading up to all that though. fucking hard work but fun.

anyway she's all calling me, texting me, making illusions to relationship. but then when it comes to weekend she says she cant see me unfortunately cos she has to prepare for a major interview both this weekend and the next weekend. fine. then i rang her tonight simply to see how her preparation had gone and she said she ended going out last night to a party.

ok admittedly it was only for an hour and perhaps i'm over reacting.

i just think if you were into someone you'd make time to see them after you'd hooked up.

WHERE IS THE BOOK ON HOW TO FRAME CONTROL ETC AFTER F-CLOSE.

i've read MM over and over for the last year and i am doing it all really well. but this shit is fucking with my head, seriously fucking with my head. i feel like an AFC again. i've got to the point where i dont alow myself to start getting into a girl but i started letting myself get into this girl cos it looked like it was going somewhere.

advice please. anyone?

Ahh man I know what you are speaking of all to well its that instinct that says open up let your heart fly like a dove and all will be well in the world. j/k That all sounds stupid but it's that needy side of us that is probably the most un-attractive quality that women generally avoid like cats and water. So instead of actively seeking her, and chasing her allow yourself to expieriance life. Continue dating and f-closing multiple girls while allowing her the time she needs to become more comfortable with you. She is a teacher and not that I like to generalize but teachers are usually freaks. :p In my own expieriance...So while she may physically desire sex with you it seems emotionally she doesn't yet feel comfortable enough to open up. So the best thing in this situation to do is nothing, and allow her the oppertunity to open up on her own. Be yourself around her have fun, bust her balls, joke with her, but don't ever need her! You need to change that around because in a relationship it's like handing over the controls of your heart to a drunk monkey driving on a rainy day at night with the headlights out, and the music blairing. That's pretty scary sh*t and you're sure to get injured emotionally. Don't allow yourself to be controled by anyone other than yourself and you will be far healthier. If you simply watch her she will tell you everything you need to know about her personality threw her actions no questions needed. Remember also that fine girls are all over the place like ripe apples waiting for good old Johnny. (bad joke) Don't put to much focus on her or you will miss out on tons of great oppertunities what you will find in pick-up is the best interactions happen when your not expecting them. So allow yourself the oppertunity to be surprised. Keep pushing forward my friend happy hunting.

p.s. Does she have any hot friends?

[Latin Lover]

thanks guys. i really appreciate your advice. i seemingly stupidly sent a slightly soppy text. i thought i'd blown it for sure but a day or so later she sent me back a really sweet text. i think 2 things are going on here

1. the only relationships i have been in prior to this girl have been massively needy and i had constant needy contact from day one.

strangely i think this girl is quite into me but really likes her space. this is actually perfect for me and what i really wanted. i just need to get used to it i think and learn to make sure i am not making more steps forward than her so that she then misses me and chased - which has been the pattern all the way up to now so i should have learnt this by now.

2. she's putting this interview first cos its majorly important to her. i should be really seeing this as the sign of a healthy individual who has her priorities sorted.

thanks again for your advice guys - it was really appreciated at the weekend - i had a bit of a bad spot - just need to learn not to be such an AFC in relationships and apply the stuff i learnt in pick-up after F-close!!!!!!!!!

[The Wild One]

thanks guys. i really appreciate your advice. i seemingly stupidly sent a slightly soppy text. i thought i'd blown it for sure but a day or so later she sent me back a really sweet text. i think 2 things are going on here

1. the only relationships i have been in prior to this girl have been massively needy and i had constant needy contact from day one.

strangely i think this girl is quite into me but really likes her space. this is actually perfect for me and what i really wanted. i just need to get used to it i think and learn to make sure i am not making more steps forward than her so that she then misses me and chased - which has been the pattern all the way up to now so i should have learnt this by now.

2. she's putting this interview first cos its majorly important to her. i should be really seeing this as the sign of a healthy individual who has her priorities sorted.

thanks again for your advice guys - it was really appreciated at the weekend - i had a bit of a bad spot - just need to learn not to be such an AFC in relationships and apply the stuff i learnt in pick-up after F-close!!!!!!!!!

The key to women is never giving them to much just enough to get them thinking and pondering positive thoughts about what could be. That usually promotes them to actively seek you out and build major crushes on you. Just remember to play it cool relationships aren't really lovey dovey affairs. Basically all you really do is have sex, and eat food. So don't let your mind wonder into places that it doesn't need to be. Focus on understanding the unique aspects of her character that most people don't ever see. Be available but not needy, and you will form a long lasting bond with her. Just live in a world that doesn't put boundries on your relationship let it naturally flow. Also remember that it is ok to look and sarge multiple women at one time it's good practice:) .

[adept2007]

How fast can I accelerate progress?

My situation: Met a girl 7 weeks ago-ish. Kissed and got number, pursued other options and hung out a week later for more comfort and some kissing. This progressed to a day 2 ish at the beach. The entire time she has called me back every time and always texts back.

Then a day 3 where I closed after hookah, dinner ect, first comes to my place. Then a coffee date multiple hours though. Then more closing after hanging out at my place. Then more on another day after dinner.

Most of the closes have been in the past week on 2 occasions, also including 2 five minute calls day after, and a long call setting up plans. She has mentioned by sexual prowess and enjoys my tongue skills heartily.

Last time in the morning (she has spent the night both times) she mentioned if we should name this or something vague and I didn't know if she was asking for commitment so I played it down and continued the convo. Later she commented while getting her panties that she wouldnt want someone coming over to find them. What does this behavior mean. Is this close to an LTR? We have been kissing and closing consistently. She says she values independence but has been steadily increasing her investment. I talk to her every other day on average and have hung out with her 6-7 times, all just the two of us. What is the case here? What do I do with her? More fun activities, or more closing? if I had to pick, and what to do now for fun thats under 21? I want something more interactive but not lame.

How do I continue to increase our respective investments at a rate that won't scare her, yet accelerating from our 1-2 hangouts per week? So far she has been very receptive to this, initiating successfully (I had to turn her down once) for the "study break lol", then came on a date for more closing soon after.

Where do I go from here? This is my first ltr, help me build it.

[Latin Lover]

dude - your advice is amazing. that thing about letting girls wonder what might be and what it might mean rather than just handing it over. i think that's very powerful. there really should be a whole book on relationships not just pick up. is there one? does anyone know? if not perhaps i'll write it in a few years!!!! hahaha.

[Latin Lover]

i know so little in this realm - hopefully some of the others will advise. all i will say is its struck me as a result of my situation that it might be really healthy to have a relationship where you arnt too all over each other and only see each other twice a week to start off with. why jump into things. your getting regular f-close. keeps the fire alive and all. i've never done it that way before but i think that's cos i was emotionally needy. part of being a pua is getting rid of that needyness. thats one of the most important things i've got from all this i recon. but dont listen to me - i'm new to this side of the coin also!

[The Wild One]

dude - your advice is amazing. that thing about letting girls wonder what might be and what it might mean rather than just handing it over. i think that's very powerful. there really should be a whole book on relationships not just pick up. is there one? does anyone know? if not perhaps i'll write it in a few years!!!! hahaha.

I appreciate that compliment but the fact is a relationship revolves mostly around sex. It's basically two people serving the needs of eachother and that is bascially it. Those needs can be anything from finacial security to emotional security. Basically all it is about is your ability to communicate to another person, and understanding of how to satisfy them. That is the whole art of it. People can be generalized and fall into classifications but people in the United States and most of the modern world hate to admit anything like that because it's not politically correct. Personally I believe labels are very good ways to pin point where people are and how the act. This enables you to make more strategic moves when courting your target. I find the best approach is one that enables her to feel free to pursue you without fear of judgement, and allow yourself to be hard for her to obtain. Keeping her constantly on her toes, and allowing yourself the ability to move on from her at any time to another fun sexual pursuet.

P.S. I want to write a book called Assholes Are Sexy.

[Latin Lover]

hahahahah fucking ha!!!! that's really it isnt it? i even tell girls that now expecting them to go 'no no no its not true - how can you be so stereotyping about girls.' except they dont say that. they totally agree with me!!!!!!