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Mojo
01-13-2007, 07:08 AM
This is a post I originally posted in MM and FS forums. However, I want to post it one last time here as the skill level of the men in this forum seems to be higher and thus, I can get a more astute feedback on this method below.



There have been a several times where, while walking across a crowded room, I was able to make eye contact with a random girl, maintain it as we approach, and just kiss here. I have never failed with this (except one time in London that the girl was quickly pulled away by her friend - damn obstacles!)

These 3 second kiss closes I naturally did before entering the community. I didn't know how it worked before; it just felt right at the moment. Though now I have analyzed and found the process.
Ensure the stage is as follows:

1) Crowded room (you cant avoid rubbing other shoulders as you walk)
2) Girl must be alone (or in back of friends where they do not have time to cock-block)
3) Girl must be approaching you
4) You must be approaching the girl
5) Initial eye contact should take place when she is 5 feet away

Follow these steps:
1) Eye Contact. Eye contact establishes the initial IOI. But it must be held on the approach. Uninterested girls would look away. You will know when she is interested or not.
2) Give the “I wanta fuck you like an animal” vibe. Genuinely thinking this will create the correct look in your face as to communicate it subconsciously, giving her the correct feeling.
3) Both of you should be approaching each other naturally as the crowd pushes you.
4) Upon approach, triangulate - look at her mouth, then at her eyes, then back at the mouth. then......
5) Go in for the kiss.
6) Walk off

Viola, easy as that!

Now how does it work?

Glad you asked...

- Paradoxically, the ultra crowded room provides isolation. None of her friends can see her, and thus judge her. Random people do not know her. So she is safe from being judged a slut.
- Girl must be alone or in back where friends may just walk away without notice. Again isolation.
- Maintaining eye contact and facial expressions provide strong IOIs. Your subconscious should be able to analyze her facial features, eye contact, and give you the "feeling" that she is kissable. You must have the sexual mindset so the correct communication will be sent to her subconscious.
- When you finally have her in almost in front of you, triangulate. Look at mouth then back at her eyes. She knows it's kissing time.
- Gently, take hold of her waist and go in for the kiss.
- Walk off. Since both of you know subconsciously the crowd is pushing you in opposite directions, there is no risk of rejection, the other person judging you, mediocre/awkward conversation, since you are naturally flowing away from each other in the crowd. Why walk off you may ask. In this situation it just naturally happened.

I have used a similiar technique in less crowded venues to quickly steal a kiss. However there was some initial quick fluff talk while communicating the same strong non verbals, followed by kiss, and then comfort buidling onto toward closing. However, that is a different discussion.

As I mentioned before, the only time it didn't work was with a girl in London. As we approach, our eyes locked, and going in for the kiss, from out of nowhere her friend pulled her away. It wasn't that this process doesn't work, the problem was that the room was not as crowded, allowing ample time for her friend to see the situation and "save" her from a very passionate kiss.

Oh well. Her loss :)

- Mojo


P.S. Has anyone had any similiar experiences and if so, could you add on the explanation on how this works?

ElDuderino
01-13-2007, 09:47 AM
Well I have done this before my days in the pick up community when rejection wasn't an option and I knew it was going to happen. It's all in the eye contact, i reckon if you don't go straight for the kiss and maybe tease a a
little or something that you could get a night out of it, it could be a possible shit test. But I find the eye contact has to be held through the approach by both parties and also approach with confidence.

Jack Tripper
01-13-2007, 11:10 AM
Awesome. I definately will be trying this! :)

Biggie
01-13-2007, 01:02 PM
I have a kinda different version of this and it might aswell be 30 sec long. Got this from a swedish pu friend of mine.

* Open with "do you like chicken?" or any random question.
No matter the the anwser IOD
* Follow up with "do u like fish?" or any random question.
No matter the anwser IOI
* Follow up with "do u like to be bitten" If yes/maybe move her hair, triangular gaze, kissclose.

To pull this off u have to be very proactive and sexual.

Good luck guys!

iammanh
01-13-2007, 01:03 PM
Here's another tactic to get easy kiss from chicks.

step 1: tap her shoulder to get her attention, then get her eye contact.
step 2: spread your arm out to hug her and go in and hug her.
step 3: while hugging her, say to her that you think she's REALLY REALLY REALLY cute and you really like her.
step 4: while she's stunned from your directness, go in and kiss her.

This works for me 80 percent of the time heh. Never the less, it's NOT a solid game plan and chances are, while you get a kiss, you end up ruinning whatever chance you get to get laid with her.

Odyssey
01-13-2007, 01:16 PM
I don't get the sense of wanting to kiss a girl that soon.
Not that it ain't fun, you're just blowing your further chanses.

why kiss a girl and walk away? it makes no sense :confused:
plus, you dismantle all further options the indirect method has to offer...

OD

Monster
01-13-2007, 01:21 PM
The fact you can is cool and does give you natural confidence. So why not?

iammanh
01-13-2007, 01:25 PM
The only reason why I do this is to impress my newbie friends who doesnt know better. Otherwise, it IS pointless.

Rich
01-13-2007, 01:26 PM
Mojo,

You know that this is the exact type of direct game everyone should aspire towards, then your walk away is a DHV. How many girls come back to you before the end of the night?

Great work,

Rich.

Odyssey
01-13-2007, 02:33 PM
Mojo,

You know that this is the exact type of direct game everyone should aspire towards, then your walk away is a DHV. How many girls come back to you before the end of the night?

Great work,

Rich.
you have direct game, and fast forward game...:rolleyes:

I guess you have a 50% chanse rate she'll come back.
I don't like chanses, I prefer educated guesses :D

Mojo
01-13-2007, 03:17 PM
Mojo,

You know that this is the exact type of direct game everyone should aspire towards, then your walk away is a DHV. How many girls come back to you before the end of the night?

Great work,

Rich.

Thanks Rich. The reason I've done this is simply because I felt like having a kiss from a beautiful woman. You don't have to be a sarge robot and mechanically go after every set.

A kiss with no strings attached... How nice

Utah
01-13-2007, 04:34 PM
Hey,

Nice k-close. I actually have a friend (not in the community) who has one that is similar.

Similar approach with eye contact. Then (and works best if you are near the dance floor) take her hand wordlessly, spin her around like a dance move, smile mischieviously and then go in for the kiss.

It works for him like a charm. Personally though I've never been able to pull it off (unless it is on new years eve but that doesn't really count).

Also the walking off bit at the end may seem counter productive but I think if you said something like: "I have an intuition about you" they would be begging to talk to you...Of all the people she speeks to that night you'd bet she would remember you first as well.

Just my 2 cents

Hawaii
01-13-2007, 07:45 PM
Respect. But Im curious, how many of these kiss closes led beyond the kiss?
1. Have any led to any day 2's or timebridges?
2. Have any led to any phone numbers?
3. Have any led to any F closes?

Mojo
01-15-2007, 11:36 AM
Respect. But Im curious, how many of these kiss closes led beyond the kiss?


As I mentioned above, my aim was simply to kiss a beautiful woman. The venue was very crowded I never saw her again, nor did I care.

The method outlined works 100% of the time for me when conditions matched what I had described. As for F-closes, I have used similiar direct methods in less crowded venues that led to SNL's.

Yoda
01-15-2007, 01:29 PM
I think there is a bit of practical use for this technique.

It's awesome for social proof.

I didn't discover that until I tried it.

Mojo
01-20-2007, 01:24 PM
I think there is a bit of practical use for this technique.

It's awesome for social proof.

I didn't discover that until I tried it.

It is awesome social proof with your guy friends see this happen. Also, being isolated in the crowd also prevents lowering your social value. Why? If it is not shoulder to shoulder crowded (as it was in these situations), people will see you and this girl kissing in public. And why is that bad? Glad you asked...

Public kissing shows lack of control and is not tactful in most public situations. Who hasnt heard why dont you two go get a room. Smart women will use anti-slut defense to prevent them from being labeled such. Reputation is everything. For a girl to kiss a random guy in public is showing her easiness thus devaluing her. And since she is easy, it also lowers the guys social value since he is with an easy girl. If you can communicate to a girl that whatever might happen will be a secret, just between you and her, she will fuck you silly. For example, when I was outta town a few weeks ago and had that one night stand, telling that HB8 that I was out of town ensured her I would not be around later to fuck and tell. Keep such things private. Dont kiss in public!

Rich
01-21-2007, 09:48 AM
Mojo,

I think women may not like the idea of kissing in public, I think that they may secretly want to be the one being kissed. Women are ruled by emotion, although society tells us that public kissing is inappropriate, women want to belive that they can be swept off their feet and live a life of fantasy.

I did a 3-Sec Kiss close last night inbeteween partys. All I said was, "Would you like to kiss a DRUNK GUY" she said yes. I remember that is was a good kiss, her lips were soft and she was very attractive.

Cheers,

Rich.