Reading Material!

[DarkPrince]

Aite, Time to get down in business!
I love Reading, and I love the community. So Why not combine them while i wait to get a car right?
So it comes down to getting the right stuff down.
What are some books that you guys would recommend an AFC thats been in the community for about 6 months, who doesn't go out, yet practices the game constantly with everyone around him and at parties?
any Proven books will be appreciated. no I'm not looking for some easy steps. Im looking for something that will get to the CORE of the understanding of things, Ive loved psychology and social behavior ever since i was a kid, so im a pretty observant person, but i over think stuff.. anyways ill cut this short..
Any book recommendations would be AWESOME!!!

Thanks a billion
-Prince

[Hawaii]

Bro,
I recommend you read the Venusian Arts Handbook

[Mister E]

Damn, I'd like to be like that.
I get bored easily reading books even on those that interest me.

I start falling asleep when reading, mostly because I don't want to stop in the middle of a chapter or anything.
And I tend to forget a lot of whats I read...or so I think.


But your not suppose to overload yourself with mucho material.


Ummm, Carlos Xuma -- Secrets of the Alpha Male
Hmm, Napoleon Hill -- Think And Grow Rich ( Is there something wrong with me? I find reading the book hard and all. I forget about what I just read and just read it to finish the sentence or chapter.
I feel like I'm not really "Reading" it you know.

[DarkPrince]

I've Already read the VAH. so there isnt any praticular book that could be recommended?

[Jack Tripper]

Why dont you list the books that you read bro? Here are a few suggestions.

Double Your Dating - David DeAngelo

The first e-book I read that changed the way I looked at social dynamics. Many have read this already, but its still a good re-read.

Art of Seduction - Robert Greene

Didnt really like this one. But many others have. Not really recommended for newbies.

Selfish Gene - Richard Dawkins

Biological look at the basis of many of todays social dynamics and seduction material. Good read.

The next books that I want to read are Badboys new one, Mystery's new one, and am looking for a good NLP one as well.

Any good NLP recommendations?

[RedpoleQ]

The Red Queen
I think Mystery got a lot of his concepts for pair-bonding and attraction from this book. Really interesting, it discusses why humans have sexual reproduction instead of some other form of reproduction, how our biology and our environment has given us our reproductive strategy, and what that means for human nature.

The Way of the Superior Man - David Deida
A must read book. It was mentioned on one of the MM interview series' and also Tyler Durden recommends it. Really helped my frame, and with my understanding of women. It talks about the difference between male and female essence and what that means for the way we interact with women. Should be read and re-read.

A History of Marriage
Interesting read. Gets a bit slow in some parts but it destroys the myth of the "traditional marriage" as being the arrangement that has suited society throughout history. Points out that current marriage paradigm is one that is only about 150 years old and also how the modern image of women as the virtuous sex is a construct developed by the middle class in the 18th and early 19th century.

I heard Sperm Wars is good, but I haven't read it yet...

$M1L$

[Monster]

But your not suppose to overload yourself with mucho material.


Why not? I can easily spot im doing things differently in a positive way when im learning atleast 10 new things a day.

[gamble]

the general rule is 4 hours of field 1 of study/material time...

when I did my bootcamp dynamic gave me this metaphor and I will give it to you;

there was a guy who wanted to learn how to fight, wanted to learn everything about it, he went to a sensei, he wanted to learn everything all at once, and asked for help. the sensei got a cup of tea and started pouring it into a cup.. it started to overflow.. sensei kept pouring and the guy was telling him to stop, finally he stopped - the cup was a representation of the guys head and the tea was knowledge.

that is paraphrased, poorly, but you get the idea.

[Champagne]

I love to read too. A few others pointed out books that are more or less written from a "pickup" point of view. Here are a couple that added enormously to my game, though they aren't "pickup" books in the usual sense.

Blink (Malcolm Gladwell) - from the same guy that wrote "The Tipping Point". In Blink he discusses how people automatically stereotype other people and/or situations via unconscious, mostly automated means, ie, in a "Blink". Provides good rationale for why you want to get your "first impressions/identity" together. Also discusses physiological stress response, and how PRACTICE causes the stress response to diminish. He talks about firefighters/police and the like, but the implication for gaming and approaching sets is obvious.

Social Intelligence (Daniel Goldman) - this is the guy who originally coined the term "EQ" or emotional intelligence. Social Intelligence just came out recently. Totally fascinating, goes into how brain mechanisms work in social contexts (for example he goes into "mirror neurons" which are just recently being studied and understood), how your emotional brain (limbic system) varies and reacts differently than your thinking brain, how the two influence one another. Again, not a "pickup" book, but if read from a gaming perspective the book is enormously illuminating.

Art of Seduction - Robert Greene...already mentioned.

Another book that I read after reading a post or something in which Style discussed it is Mastering Your Hidden Self by Serge Kahili King. If you read this in conjuction w/ Social Intelligence you'll see a lot of parallels between a seeming "wu-wu" book like Mastering Your Hidden Self and S.I.

Emergenetics - Geil Browning. I picked this up on a whim one time at Borders. Great book about various thinking styles, and in some ways similar to the Myers-Briggs way of looking at personality. She does something different though, which is that she separates out thinking attributes from behavioral attributes, and puts the behavioral attributes on a sliding scale. Besides the content...the concept of the book itself makes for a good routine ;)

The New Psycho-Cybernetics - updated classic of Maxwell Maltz. Very practical self-improvement stuff.

There, that should keep you busy for a bit...besides all your standard MM, DD and/or whatever ebooks.

[Cobra]

Interesting list, Champagne. I will have to check out some of those as well.

One note though, the Emotional Intelligence guy is Daniel Goleman in case somebody is looking for it.


Social Intelligence (Daniel Goldman) - this is the guy who originally coined the term "EQ" or emotional intelligence. Social Intelligence just came out recently. Totally fascinating, goes into how brain mechanisms work in social contexts (for example he goes into "mirror neurons" which are just recently being studied and understood), how your emotional brain (limbic system) varies and reacts differently than your thinking brain, how the two influence one another. Again, not a "pickup" book, but if read from a gaming perspective the book is enormously illuminating.

[Regal]

Some stuff that will get to the core of various aspects for ya:

How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie is like one social revelation after another.

Dan Rose's ebook Sex Revolution Handbook is incredible, not just for making you a fiend in bed, but also for understanding the underlying reason why chicks like getting slapped hard on the ass during doggystyle.

I also really enjoyed The Selfish Gene and The Red Queen, which folks already mentioned, for understanding core principles behind sexual reproduction and the reproductive strategies of male and female organisms.

Cheers,

Regal

[strypes]

Someone recommended "The Mating Mind" by Geoffrey Miller, haven't read that yet, but it looks good from the reviews.

Else, "The Art of Conversation" by James A. Morris. My view on it is that it gets just a little too heavy (if you've already read Juggler's 'How to be a PUA').

Machiavelli's "The Prince" is a good read, aside from purely PU material. It deals with politics outside of purely "governing people".

"How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. The idea of obtaining friendship from a book is just about as alien as getting gfs from a method or routine, so it takes some time to warm up to... But it's still a classic book that doesn't break things down too deeply and still keeps the essense of humanity.

That and a few books on story telling techniques to beef up your dhv stories...

[BonJovi]

Every book you read should serve a purpose. To improve some aspect of your game.

I have issues with long term relationships and I found "Way of the Superior Man" to be VERY helpful.

I wanted to be able to better tell stories about my life and found "The Story Factor" to have helped greatly.

The October Man sequence and the great success I've had with NLP and anchoring has lead me to want to learn more about hypnosis and NLP so now I'm reading "Introducing NLP" and later will re-read "Hypnosis for Beginners" a book I read a few months with no real purpose and ultimately learned nothing from.

the general rule is 4 hours of field 1 of study/material time...

when I did my bootcamp dynamic gave me this metaphor and I will give it to you;

there was a guy who wanted to learn how to fight, wanted to learn everything about it, he went to a sensei, he wanted to learn everything all at once, and asked for help. the sensei got a cup of tea and started pouring it into a cup.. it started to overflow.. sensei kept pouring and the guy was telling him to stop, finally he stopped - the cup was a representation of the guys head and the tea was knowledge.

that is paraphrased, poorly, but you get the idea.

[TruePlayer]

By far the best book on evolutionary pscyhology is Geoffrey Miller's The Mating Mind. Can't recommend it highly enough.

[Johnny.Vegas]

Second that BonJovi

David Deida-The Way of the Superior Man is a good book to read.
Another I've found usefull is Carlos Xuma-The Dating Blackbook.

[DarkPrince]

Im loving these Lists <3
I Have Heard Great things about sprem wars, Planning on getting it soon.
For anyone who has read it, what did you guys think of it?

-Prince

[TruePlayer]

Sperm Wars is good although some of the speculations seem a little tenuous at times. Great fun, overall though.

Read it in conjunction with The Mating Mind, which is even more ambitious and fascinating. The two books are mostly orthogonal, so you'll benefit from reading both.

The Red Queen is the worst of the commonly recommended Evolutionary Psychology books, IMO. I don't think the author is an actual scientist, so he does not explain the underlying concepts clearly enough. Sometimes he tries to use analogies, but they are often incomplete and only complicated things in my mind. (Oddly, he does not try to use analogies for the more complicated points, just for obvious and intermediate things. The latter are what he tends to botch.)

I think the Red Queen can be skipped altogether. The topics are covered more clearly and in more detail in other books. (It seems that actual research scientists are better at writing about the subject than lay people.)

[DarkPrince]

I love the diffrent Material peopel are Recomending! After im done Re-reading "The Game" Ima tune in on sperm wars and move on from there..

oh, Almost forgot, Are there any books on body language? I have always been curious about body language and it would be great to read one about it.

-Prince

[Johnny.Vegas]

I've found the book The Definative book on Body Language by Allan & Barbara Pease to be a pretty interesting read in that area

[BonJovi]

I've found the book The Definative book on Body Language by Allan & Barbara Pease to be a pretty interesting read in that area

I second this recommendation.

[tannhauser]

Any good NLP recommendations?

the first book you should read on NLP is Introducing NLP.
here is the Amazon link... (http://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Neuro-Linguistic-Programming-Psychological-Understanding/dp/1855383446/sr=8-1/qid=1169149266/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-3634351-2792665?ie=UTF8&s=books)

It has all of the NLP themes in it. once you discover how powerfull this technology is and you want to read more I recomend:
frogs into princes-talks about eye accessing, submodalities, anchoring
Tranceformations- the milton model
sleigh of mouth- his is the best book on overcoming limiting beliefss.

~RT

[apg96]

How to become an Alpha Male- John Alexander

im reading it right now and seems to be pretty good. Covers all major bases but i wish in a few areas he went into a lil more detail.

[Mister E]

Hmm, read both Carlos Xuma's book and John Alexanders.

Theyre both good.


Even, though I have to side with John Alexander..just cause his book was shorter than the other.
But they both have great information.

Its been a while since I read it.
I may have to re-read it to get a refresher

[rockdon]

This may seem totally orthogonal to the discussion initially, but I found a lot of value in SRC's 7 habits of highly successful people. I listen to the audiobook a couple times a year, and I can honestly say I feel that I improve areas of my life the more I follow it. He has a great speaking voice as well, so it makes a nice listen.

[smoothie]

The System by Roy Valentine - A short but oh so very sweet book. Its very good for teaching the basics and by the end you have a very good idea of how game is run.

How to Talk to Anyone (92 little tricks for big success in relationships) by Leil Lowndes - Admittedly I have only read the first chapter of this (which is on body language) but I have found it to be very intriguing and have started putting some of the tricks to good use.

The Layguide by Tony Clink – Another great PUA book. Full of routines and different styles.

The book of fabulous questions by Penelope Frohart – Full of great open ended questions good for starting a conversation or if a conversation is running dry.

The books that follow are ones I haven’t had the chance to read myself yet but have been recommended:-

-Conversational Jujitsu by Juggler

-How To Be A Pickup Artist by Juggler

-DYNAMIC SEX LIFE by GunWitch

-Secrets of Speed Seduction by Ross Jeffries

-How to Get the Women You Desire Into Bed by Ross Jeffries

-Real World Seduction by Swinggcat

-The Art of Approaching by Thundercat

-The Definitive Book of Body Language by Allan Pease

-Tradecraft - The Art And Science Of Cold Reading by ??????

- Full Facts Book of Cold Reading by Ian Rowland

-ReFraming by Richard Bandler & John Grinder

-Comedy Writing Secrets by Melvin Helitzer

-Get Anyone to Do Anything by David J. Lieberman

-The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins

-Manwatching: A Field Guide to Human Behaviour by Desmond Morris

[Dario Dynamo]

I love reading in general. I have tons of books and textbooks on psychology, business in general, and then some of my FUN reading books (Edgar Allan Poe, HB Lovecraft, etc) But sometimes it is hard to read everything. English is my second language, but I do speak it fluently, so I feel I need to read better...then somehow I ran into the name Howard Stephen Berg. THIS little bit of information has opened my mind even more on how to go about learning and studying books. I had been holding back on reading all my books due to the fact that I couldn't fully grasp what a book is trying to tell me. Now just by doing little reading exercise, I can have fun reading a book. It's always fun trying to develop a skill...specially when it starts to grow and you think back..."hmmm...I wonder why this was so hard?"

[Valmont Mcfearless]

The System by Roy Valentine - A short but oh so very sweet book. Its very good for teaching the basics and by the end you have a very good idea of how game is run.


I disagree, this book In my opinion is terrible. The only advice was to smile a lot. Granted his storys of success are encouraging, but this book is about decieving women rather than picking them up.

[LeatherJacket]

I love reading in general. I have tons of books and textbooks on psychology, business in general, and then some of my FUN reading books (Edgar Allan Poe, HB Lovecraft, etc) But sometimes it is hard to read everything.

I have the same problem. I love reading and all the information I can gather. However, I read about 4 books at a time as well as everything I have to cram into my head for school, so it's hard to get all that information at the same time.

[azalin00]

The Definative book on Body Language

Third the motion to read that one.