Habits Of "Need" And "Want"

[-TruTh-]

As humans we understand we have habits this thread discusses "Need" And "Want" two completely different patterns.

I have watched this community I see threads with "So I meet this girl". Write about how they "Need" her because shes so special... in all honesty why is she so special as to say every other girl?

The word "Need" you think you "Need" her... no you don't you should "Want" her because "Needing" her defeats your purpose as a male... the only "Need" you should have is yourself.. food and clothing.

Example -- I see that sexy girl walking down the hall... perfect ten gorgeous... I decide I "Want" her number... if I get her number great amazing something beautiful entered my life... but I don't "Need" her number... because I won't die if I don't have it.

We spend alot of time searching for unexplained things but were searching for ourselves... chasing are own tales... eliminate the "Need" of women accept that you "Want" them because they "Want" you as well.

Habits Of "Need" And "Want" -- TruTh

[-TruTh-]

Also if anyone in philadelphia knows a cheesesteak place tell me I'm starving lol. -- TruTh

[checkers]

Google "cheesecake in Philly." They're found on every freaking streetcorner pretty much.


Its not a physical need its a mental "I want to be with her badly" type of need. Most people don't need to have women like its a drug, but they want her quality of women in their lives, and want it really badly.

I need 3 things in life. Oxygen, Food/drink, and companionship. Anyone saying they don't need any of these is lying to themselves. Humans are a social being. I forget the disorder, but those guys that try sailing around the world alone tend to come back really messed up because they don't have any interaction with anyone. People are social by nature, and taking away that needed interaction will seriously damage people.

[-TruTh-]

Its a discussion about difference between "Need And "Want". Of course we need oxygen lol... its about eliminating "Need" Needy men are unattractive. A Man who wants women but doesn't "Need" them is successful. -- TruTh

[Argo navis]

Yeah but checkers has an excellent point. You, truth, are coming from a place of wanting to learn more about life as a whole and relationships, and welcoming difference and other people's input does just that.

I do need companionship as anyone, but I try to make my presence added value to my companions. I try.

Needing :
- acting from a place of possessivity and lack of self-validation.

Wanting :
- acting from a fully composed and constructed personality, on the desire we feel for someone.

The difference is instantly perceived by women, and striking. J The Ripper has a FR where one lady explains that she fucked him after ten minutes because she knew he was genuinely into her. This is striking when trying to get back an ex : u-turns after breakups are VERY feasible, but the first thing you need to do is make CERTAIN you WANT that person for who they are. It only works this way.

Emphasis on "who they are" :

Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
What truth?
There is no spoon.
There is no spoon?
Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.

[-TruTh-]

Now were getting somewhere haha... yes life as a whole interests me... never said he didn't have a point... what happens truthfully when need is eliminated and want to a women is established ^^ you do see my point. -- TruTh

[azazels_wolf]

Oooooh, a quote from The Matrix. I love that film. :)

It's full of gnostic themes... some people even achieve a gnostic state when watching it.... *grin*

[Argo navis]

Yeah, interestingly enough, the Matrix has been one of the biggest movie successes ever, making two nearly unknown directors rise to the top immediately, and.. Every other sentence, there is a quote about self love and how it impacts the outside.

Truth, thanks for the topic, yuppers, this is a genuine debate and discussion, doesn't it feel good?

Now, I just had a few examples of this with my friend "lawyer natural". He said I inspired inner peace to him. I feel it myself these days, more and more consistently. So I didn't check chicks, didn't care about anything but our time together, the NOW, had a fun time with my childhood pal - and guess what? We've been hit on.

...We proceeded to debate the very topic of outcome independence, tightly related. If you worry ever ten minutes your significant other will meet someone else, small details of what you do WILL give it away and make her feel pressured, and make you look needy.

You really ARE when in that state. Whereas pure outcome independence, eq. "Oh she hasn't called in a while but she will eventually", makes things happen. This is not always an easy state to maintain, especially during turmoils and at the beginning of a relationship, but the more you stick to your outcome independence, the more your energy flows in the right direction, making the right things happen.

[rAFC]

i see what you mean truth, but if we don't ever get the girls we at first 'want', surely after the years go by we will end up going crazy. i told one of my old friends about the kid who jumped off the roof of a car park and he said his roommate forgot to take his cymbalta after a breakup with a girl and set his room on fire, and wouldn't come out. he is now hospitalized but stable. at what point does something become a 'need'? when our health begins to deteriorate? when we can no longer function, just as if we did not have enough food? then surely, the line between need and want is hazy.

the longer time goes by, the more i class women, both in terms of sex and companionship, as a fundamental need. just as water, without women in our lives, we would all eventually die out. you're perhaps talking from a PUA standpoint where you already have companionship of possibly multiple women, and in that case i would agree with it being 'i want that 10'. argo's point of seeking validation is true, where a PUA considers his self worth proportionate to the responses of women, which is just not correct.

[checkers]

What I am saying can pretty much be tied back down to any of the deep philosophical posts that I've made as of late (Argo and Wolf, you guys are MEAN for getting me into that stuff!) that it boils down to what you want. I firmly believe in the Law of Attraction (www.thesecret.tv), and therefore, whatever I want, will come to me in time.

This isn't related to pickup, but it validates this point pretty well in my opinion.

I am an actor, and I "want" to become a famous one. I see myself driving a Burnt orange Porsche 911 turbo around hollywood. I see my ass in the latest fashion, front door key to the playboy mansion, ect. Now, that will take a little bit of time to accomplish. But, just this last week... I've gotten myself an agent, I have myself working with a pilot tv show, and the last 3 weeks I've found designer clothes that look REALLY nice for the price of stuff from Pacific Sunware or another store just like that. Point being, anything you want, desire, yearn for, can come to you and you will recieve it.

Sorry for the off topic rant, but it prooves that wanting something is FINE. Obsession over something however, is not. Am I obsessed with becoming an actor, sure. However, I still get all my school work done on time, I work out, hold my job, and everything else.

I want beautiful women in my life that are faithful, fun, and interesting. I want to turn heads whenever I go somewhere, and if you want that bad enough and see yourself already having it, then THAT is when you recieve it.


And yay, another deep post from Checkers :cool:

[-TruTh-]

Need is when are soul validation and life is cast to another which hinders there progress and thus unfair to them.. its healthy to need a relationship but unhealthy if your existence depends on it.

I rather want a relationship I put everything into it but I won't put that before my purpose because the girl will feel if I'm leading from my deepest wisdom. -- TruTh

[Sparks123]

Also if anyone in philadelphia knows a cheesesteak place tell me I'm starving lol. -- TruTh

I'm partial to Rick's in Reading Terminal.

[azazels_wolf]

What I am saying can pretty much be tied back down to any of the deep philosophical posts that I've made as of late (Argo and Wolf, you guys are MEAN for getting me into that stuff!)


Haha, you know you love it! ;)


that it boils down to what you want. I firmly believe in the Law of Attraction (www.thesecret.tv), and therefore, whatever I want, will come to me in time.

Another great example of how important positive thought and correct frame really are. It IS relevant to pickup... this is a crucial part of inner game and will in turn affect all of your interactions with other people.

[checkers]

Oh I know I love it Wolf, and its all your fault! ;)

I rewatched the Secret earlier this week, and so far my "bad" occurrences that have happened are things like red lights not changing when I want them to. Clicking the wrong answer on a quiz and having to re-do it. Stuff like that.

Guys, if you want to nub your inner game problems in the butt, I HIGHLY suggest that you watch The Secret.

For the more science-minded, another good video of similar style is "What the Bleep do we Know Now?"

[-TruTh-]

Did anyone here read "Way Of The Superior Man" by David deida?? I recommend it. -- TruTh