Analyse my (bad) msn game

[Easievibe]

This is pretty much a snapshot of my whole game right now whether it's online or in real life. I am nearly always able to get intial interest but am TERRIBLE at maintaining interest because I simply find it really hard to be genuinely interested in dumb girls. I get initial attraction but fuck up right when it comes to qualifying and comfort cos I really could not give a flying shit. I just need to fake it better I guess.

The girl is the one with the long stupid name. Atm I will do good attraciton stuff online over the dating site, get good attraction, qualify her then get email and as soon as I chat to them online I invariably fuck it up as I get stuck. I simply don't know what to do and am really uncalibrated. This is not like this in real life as I get 2-3 makeouts a week. I'm just saying so you know I'm not noob it's just that I am uncalibrated without the social cues of kino/ioi's etc to guide me, but it's precisely why I'm learning internet game as my verbal game in field is my WEAKEST part so with internet it'll teach me strong verbals. In field I mostly relied on 'gimme's' based on my looks which usually only got me basic level drunk 7's which I am now turning down as that is unnacceptable and merely fools mate.

So I've got probs over 20 emails in the last cpl months and invariably they go pretty much EXACTLY the same way as this convo here so it is a good case in point. They stale out like this then I just delete them once they refuse to talk to me or I have given up trying. Hopefully you guys can give me some pointers of where I'm fucking up so I can get to some new, more productive territory.


I say:

hi

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

heya u oki x

I say:

You know what? You're either like the coolest person I've ever met.... or
like this total weirdo. I'm kind of curious about you.

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

lol im not a total weirdo x

(U)the stories changed my heart is breaking(U)i can see my whole world changing(W)theres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u:'( just sent you a Buzz!

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

where dya gooo?

I say:

hey

I say:

i was doing my laundry

I say:

Awww isn't that cute, you getting all upset
like that

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

lol wats apnin eniwaii

I say:

are you trying to seduce me?

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

nope

I say:

ok, cos I am wearing my dirty underwear just in case

I say:

i cant see your pic

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

nah its ok

I say:

i can only see some ppls pics on this for some reason

I say:

where do i know you form again

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

nmeva mind

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

neva mind leve it

I say:

I get the feeling that...

I say:

You seem to be the kind of person who when you really like someone, you
want to spend all your time with them... But when somebody
really annoys you, you want nothing to do with
them.

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

yh

I say:

i could tell cos i am the same way

I say:

so what are you doing today

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

dno yet u?

I say:

i had adream about my dog last ngiht

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

k

I say:

the dog i had when i was younger
little sparky

I say:

the dog i had when i was younger
little sparky
i dreamt that i was with him, and then somehow he got hurt and i usually dont feel emotions but then i become really afraid for him and realised i love him loads and began hugging him as he was whelping in pain

I say:

i like it when i remmebr my dreams

I say:

what is one that you had you remmeebr

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

yh king charles cavaleigh

I say:

?

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

what

I say:

yh king charles cavaleigh

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

yh

I say:

so tell me something else about yourself

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

what u wana noo

I say:

What’s your favorite color? (i think mayve i cna guess )

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

guess

I say:

i guess jet ablack, for goth

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

nope pink

I say:

right, i read that people who like pink are warm

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

yup

I say:

and alwyas try to please everyone

I say:

i used to like bue

I say:

blue

I say:

i was into dark purple when i was younger and even had my room painted that coour

I say:

i guess that was my goth days

I say:

11:09:02 - (U)the stories changed my heart is breaking(U)i can see my whole world changing(W)theres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u:'( appears to be offline and will receive your messages after signing in

[Argo navis]

The beginning is good, but with trying to push routines here and there, you come across as way too interested in yourself. You come across as trying to expose something about yourself with hard labour, rather than naturally.

This is where it goes bad. Before the nope, she's intrigued and all, then her state plummets to "nope". After that, you had a couple of chance to pick it up again, but too "systematic", not natural enough.

I say:

are you trying to seduce me?

the stories changed my heart is breakingi can see my whole world changingtheres no need 2 liv if i cnt be wid u says:

nope

I say:

ok, cos I am wearing my dirty underwear just in case

When she asks "what is happenin'", "well, to you, you're meeting a wonderful guy. To me, I am having fun (at your expense)."

blablabla and keep it random and fun and unpredictable, but keep it a normal discussion : too many "hashes" and "skips" to routines got you grilled my friend.

The beginning is really good though.

[Cro]

took me a few attempts to read it because I have issues with people abusing language, but I agree with Argo here. You're too systematic and you think her attention span online is the same as in person....tell me, how many sitse did you browse during that? How much do you think she was really paying attention ?

[Easievibe]

Thanks Argo your points were insightful.

Could you give me some pointers on how I can get her contributing more as atm I feel like I need to be running some 'trick'. I wanna know how to take things down into a normal convo. As at this time, now she is intrigued and contributing I presume we are in C1...? So how do I run it? I am also reading the manuals in reference to this but other's inidivudal experience on how they do it would also prove instructive.

I find it easy once I am getting substance form her but it's the transition from the attraction stuff to getting her to contribute that I'm struggling with.

[Argo navis]

We're not yet in comfort, imo, because there is not enough information coming from her - we're "standing on the verge of C1".

You should calibrate : you should adjust to her short answers and direct tone. This is something you get a feel for with practice. When in doubt, in general, you can "mirror" the other party's responses somehow (tone, or typing style if msn, or body language, etc..).

Mirroring is a comfort builder. And simply, ask her questions that lead her to express herself, in a natural progression. "So if you're not a dork by profession, you're a lion tamer?"

[Easievibe]

Right, that makes alot of sense.

It reminds me of something that Juggler has said before (who we all know is pretty much ALL comfort). He goes 'You want to relate to ANYTHING the girl says' even if it was a monosyllabic response he advocates just relating and answering as if she gave a long answer, so it's almost like your answering for her by giving a best guess and mirroring back your estimated response.

Is this what you meant?

Yeah I'd also been thinking about mirroring in this context myself recently funnily enough.

I used to totally ignore anything about mirroring as it is 'supplicative' before you have rapport but once the girl is trying to get rapport I imagine it is a good aid to gaining rapport- mirroring of whatever channel that might be, be it body language/verbal/kino etc.

[azazels_wolf]

Moving this to the "Online Game" section.

Also:

1) You say you're not interested in "dumb girls." If you feel like you're talking to a dumb girl who simply does not meet your qualifications, you are going to stale out regardless. You need some natural rapport... running forced routines on a girl who is boring you out of your mind will not work in the long run. If she bores you to death now, she's probably going to bore you in bed too. Find girls who you genuinely find interesting, who you think genuinely meet your qualifications... your conversations will be much more successful. I suggest looking for girls who SHARE COMMON INTERESTS with you.

2) You keep subtly negging her and disqualifying yourself. If you have qualified her already and are attempting to go deeper into comfort, you need to develop more rapport. I realize you may be attempting to do push/pull here, but you keep breaking rapport during times it shouldn't be broken, and then you try to force it back with another tactic. LIke Argo said, this is not coming across as a natural conversation.... it seems contrived and you're both steadily losing interest. You need to find something you emotionally or otherwise connect over, and use it as an opportunity to escalate. Try to connect for some length of time before you break rapport.

[Easievibe]

Thanks Az,

I agree with most of what your saying on number 2. it resonated with me as things I should be working on.

With 1. however I am not interested in a girl's personality as I only want them for replication value. I know what your saying about this and have studied it hard but the hotter the girl is the dumber and less developed her personality. I have had it where I have a natural connection with a girl but this is a fluke and not the norm. I am after consistency after all and only ONS atm so personality really isn't an issue. It is my contention that I just need more 'game' to 'cover up' this blip via a synthetic connection long enough to fuck and chuck-if they prove crap after the bed sequence. Once I find a fluke girl who is both hot and has wonderful personality then I may want to hold on to her but I don't really care either way as I don't need a girl for intellectual stimulation only replication value. I don't want to get into a big debate about this here however if we can help it.

[Argo navis]

It should be the norm of girls you select as your surroundings, not a fluke. If you feel about the girl like you'd feel for a piece of meat, then it's tough to arouse her emotion-based sexuality if you know what I mean. Work your filtering or your comfort, or both (best).

[Jazzy_ways]

you tried to make her jump your hoops, but she jumped yours, unlucky.
make her jump ypurs next time.