I've plateaued in my game. I've gotten lazy, working mostly day game. I dont even remember the last time I went out for night game (besides house parties). I really need to get into the bar scene. Also the hottest night clubs are of course 21+.
To gain the skills I need to get only the hottest women, I need to get into the night life. If you have any information on procuring said identification card, I'd love for you to throw some love my way.
I live in the orange county area (fullerton), california. I'd be willing to make a trek to other parts of the state to get it. (SD to LA). Thanks buddies!
pula
Cha11enge
07-25-2008, 10:05 AM
There are several things you can look into....
This is probably one of the biggest obstacles facing the under 21 Venusian Artists. So hopefully I can point you in the right direction///
You want to first ask yourself, "How old do people think I am?"
If it's over 21 you won't might not need a fake ID, however, if your under 21 then your job will a bit more difficult.
1.)It's awesome to Befriend the Bartender
If you feel that you can pass for 21+ then single out the hot, or not so hot, bars you want to start visiting on a busy night or just on a regular basis. The best thing to do if is to make a trip to that bar during the day time. If they serve food order something not quite so expensive, but tip the waiter nicely (45%) This will help the staff to remember your face. If anyone inquires your age always say your 22 or 23. This has worked for me countless times at a bar where they may have a very exciting college night crowd and I don't want to be carded by the bar staff. Plus if you have a friend who's also the bartender you may see a few more drinks in your future.
The key point to take home with having friend as a bartender, is that if you can't befriend the bouncer you might still be able to drop a name a the door that might still get you in if you can't get past security as easily. For Instance,
bouncer: "Can I see your Id?"
You: "I'm only going in to drop off anna's backpack (while carrying a backpack)"
This tactic may get you in faster and you might actually not have to even pay cover.
2.) It's awesome to befriend the bouncers.
If your target bar or club isn't open during the day, an awesome tactic is to make your rounds early, and try to chat up the bouncers before the club is even busy or for that matter even open. When I lived in downtown Detroit, I would head out at 9:00PM just to hit every club that I thought I might even think about going to that night, to talk and bullshit with the bouncers. You can talk with these guys about everything, sports, girls, what time it usually gets crazy, the craziest thing that's ever happened to them while on the job. They are usually bored out of their skulls standing guard until the wee hours of the morning and wouldn't mind some interesting conversation, especially when the person their talking with isn't drunk or just another belligerent guy trying to get in the club.
The great thing about this technique is that a bouncer at one club usually bounces at another, so if you make friends with a bouncer at one club and get in you might end up having your whole city on lock down. Not to mention that these guys who are "in the business" are contracted to do private parties with big money, celebrities, and a HB10 or fifty.
3.) Get to know the owner
This may take slightly more finesse and energy to do, but this is incredibly effective. First, Get the phone number to the club, and look into booking an event for an off night, ask if you can set up an appointment (pref. dinner or lunch and make sure you buy which ever meal) to discuss rental for the club. Usually, the owner will want to sit and talk with you figuring out what you want, bar details, music details, security details, all the while your talking to him building rapport. If the owner asks just say it's for a birthday party. So after your done talking and you've paid for the meal he will automatically feel obligated to repay the favor of buying the meal. Tell him that you've been looking into booking for monthly events, and you wouldn't mind coming to the club on a busy night to see the kind of crowd and the kind of atmosphere. He should then say something like "Oh yeah, come by saturday, I'll put you on the list."
If you go on saturday not only will you be on the list, you'll have the bouncers in your back pocket, you'll get fucked up for free, and calling for cheers with owner.
4.) Let's make friends with the DJ.
Let's face it guys, DJ's have an incredible pull in the night club industry. They can be the only reason show up to the venue in the first place. If you get dialed in an awesome DJ you will not only have him as a friend who will get you into a club for free consistently, but he can also give you access to VIP area's, give you great social proof, and introduce you to awesome hotties who only want to hang out with the DJ.
So how can you do this? Online options make it easiers than ever, most every prominent Dj has a myspace page, so just go through your local weekly and pick out your favorite clubs to party at and in ads they'll usually feature that dj who will be there on the same night you will. Find him/her on myspace, friend them, and send them a message like
"Hey saw you at Club X last saturday and you were the awesome. I want to have you play at my birthday party. give me your number and let's talk."
*Now this may seem kinda wrong but it's July and my birthday is in December so obviously I'm not going to book him anytime soon. I might book him in December but that is only if I have a B-day party. I might also not book him.
Make him come out with you to a club you know you can get into and hang out with him. Buy him drinks, introduce him to all the hot girls you know, give him some of your value. Then ask him for a favor, to put you on the VIP list.
Befriend the DJ, he will help you tremendously to get into the key bar but also like the bouncer, get you into those exclusive parties. Usually the best person in the club to know.
Upon entering the club, I will greet the DJ, no matter where he is (i.e. a weird dj booth in the sky, on the ground, anywhere, make sure you make some contact with him.
IF YOU LOOK LIKE A 12 YEAR OLD
1.) Consider getting a replica foreign ID
There are plenty of sites on the internet that specialize in creating replica passports and ID, most of them can do replica's for as little as $50 US and provide awesome details and results. For Instance, if you order a Yugoslavian replica ID a bouncer will only look for the magic numbers that indicate your DOB, rather than checking the legitimacy. I've seen these replica's with watermarkings and seals that make them look so authentic a police officer couldn't tell. Another plus, is that since it wont be an ID from the US most bouncers will have never seen a yugoslavian passport so they'll just take one look and then let you in. The only downside is that this is slightly illegal, however it's only illegal if you get caught.
2.) Find someone who looks like you and buy their ID
plain and simple the standard fake ID trick.
Hope this helps.
-Challenge
Not sure where Challenge is from, but it's definately NOT California.
Nearly all bars around here require and SCAN the ID of every person entering, even if they look 90.
I think it's now law that bars no longer accept foreign documents as ID except for the orginal passport from the originating country. Passports are pretty standardized now, they won't be fooled. All bars also have a reference book showing what all foreign passports look like, as well as each state's drivers license.
I doubt the DJ thing would would -- the DJ would definately blacklisted from any future gig if he risked the club's liquor license by bringing in a minor. If he's already getting gigs in clubs, he's not going to be all that interested in working a birthday party anyway.
A few months ago I saw someone trying to use a fake ID and get busted. The club called the police, and told the people (in front of a crowd) that they can make a run for it now (leaving the ID), or stay and get arrested and a big fine. They chose to run, as everyone laughed. Not a pretty sight. That was at PB Bar and Grill, for those of you who know San Diego.
The very last idea you posted is the only one that might have some merit.
Session
07-27-2008, 09:01 AM
I have a fake and it's working well for all the hottest bars in town, yes, it helps a lot because you can work older women (by older I mean 21-26), college girls become a breeze.
southern yankee
08-17-2008, 04:28 PM
well really i think it depends on the bar
i know in evanston(burb of chicago) there is a bar called the keg which let me in when im only 18 with an id that said i was 23
the picture on the id looked nothing like me but it had the same eyes hair color and close to the same height...
thats all they really look for
so really you just gotta find the right bars
Carguy313
08-25-2008, 03:57 PM
Not sure where Challenge is from, but it's definately NOT California.
Nearly all bars around here require and SCAN the ID of every person entering, even if they look 90.
I think it's now law that bars no longer accept foreign documents as ID except for the orginal passport from the originating country. Passports are pretty standardized now, they won't be fooled. All bars also have a reference book showing what all foreign passports look like, as well as each state's drivers license.
I doubt the DJ thing would would -- the DJ would definately blacklisted from any future gig if he risked the club's liquor license by bringing in a minor. If he's already getting gigs in clubs, he's not going to be all that interested in working a birthday party anyway.
A few months ago I saw someone trying to use a fake ID and get busted. The club called the police, and told the people (in front of a crowd) that they can make a run for it now (leaving the ID), or stay and get arrested and a big fine. They chose to run, as everyone laughed. Not a pretty sight. That was at PB Bar and Grill, for those of you who know San Diego.
The very last idea you posted is the only one that might have some merit.
I have to agree. For those that don't know or arent from CA there is an area in Orange County called Down Town Fullerton (DTF) where there are a dozen or so bars. Its target rich and generally a fun place to hang out.
EVERY BAR there checks id's. I would be nearly impossible to get to know EVERY bouncer at every bar in Fullerton besides that fact that a lot of them working the door (not all) are on a power trip and are not interested in making friends.
However, there are always ways around this. I have been in the situation where I forgot my ID and had to improvise. A lot of bars and clubs use stamps to mark people's hands for re-entry. Some places don't have enclosed patio's so people have to smoke outside and re enter. If you go with friends who are 21 you can try to transfer stamps while outside with a little water (or spit). They deal with so many people night after night it can be hard to keep track of who entered and who didn't and who was outside smoking and came back in.
Other than that maybe look into get a fake ID. Have you look at any photo places in indoor swap meets around OC?
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