jameson
07-19-2008, 01:59 AM
I have some kind of sticking point I can't overcome and I have no ideas on how to solve it. I've been in the community for about six months. My wing has about the same amount of time and he can't help me either. We both did a superconference/bootcamp.
Anyway this is the problem: I do fairly well yet I can never close! There's always one excuse or another. I open well, neg, build attraction, kino, etc, etc. I've gamed everyone from doormen to hired guns to HBs. We always have fun...(maybe it's just a matter of more time and more microcalibration)but in the end girls always roll off or I somehow lose it. They thank me for fun or meeting us, but there's always an excuse (my boyfriend's inside, I have to go, nice meeting you....) I've tried more kino and cavemaned it. tonight, for example, I had my tounge in this girl's ear, told her it was her pussy, and had my hand on her ass. She loved it! and kept workin up on me. I even stood up to her shit test earlier. She hated me before but I broke though because i played disinterested in her anger and it worked! However, just like all times before, she got on her cell at the end of the night, said something about a boyfriend and grabbed her friend and left us. What?! That's just one example. It's always something.
My guess is that it could be a matter of moving them or bouncing them. But we're outside on the smoking lounge and going inside would be too loud to talk in a club. And we and they are having too much fun to leave the club and bounce while it is still hoppin.
I feel that so much of my game is tight, the doormen I know think we get laid every night, but the truth is that we're never f-closing. What is that piece I'm missing???????
Anyway this is the problem: I do fairly well yet I can never close! There's always one excuse or another. I open well, neg, build attraction, kino, etc, etc. I've gamed everyone from doormen to hired guns to HBs. We always have fun...(maybe it's just a matter of more time and more microcalibration)but in the end girls always roll off or I somehow lose it. They thank me for fun or meeting us, but there's always an excuse (my boyfriend's inside, I have to go, nice meeting you....) I've tried more kino and cavemaned it. tonight, for example, I had my tounge in this girl's ear, told her it was her pussy, and had my hand on her ass. She loved it! and kept workin up on me. I even stood up to her shit test earlier. She hated me before but I broke though because i played disinterested in her anger and it worked! However, just like all times before, she got on her cell at the end of the night, said something about a boyfriend and grabbed her friend and left us. What?! That's just one example. It's always something.
My guess is that it could be a matter of moving them or bouncing them. But we're outside on the smoking lounge and going inside would be too loud to talk in a club. And we and they are having too much fun to leave the club and bounce while it is still hoppin.
I feel that so much of my game is tight, the doormen I know think we get laid every night, but the truth is that we're never f-closing. What is that piece I'm missing???????