View Full Version : Neil Vs MYstery
Exotic[Love]
07-07-2008, 03:19 PM
http://www.neilnatura.com/index_1.html
Look at this guy. Who does he think he is.
Who would win beetween Neil and Mystery?
Ive been to his seminars and all i can say is that it sucks. He was talking talking and advertizing for his bootcamps that cost about 2000 $. And still he goes on talking. And incredible enough there people registered for his seminar bootcamp.
Ive even talked to this guy in person and asked if he wanted to be my wing and game with me for one night. And the answer i got was
Hey come to my bootcamp and then i can be your wing. omg omg omg. I never never paid for his seminar bootcamp ever.
I respect Mystery more. And even if i meet mystery in person i hope he does not say i should come pay for his bootcamp when i ask him out for gaming.
Johnny Soporno
07-07-2008, 04:15 PM
;87384']http://www.neilnatura.com/index_1.html
Look at this guy. Who does he think he is.
He thinks he's a solid Player, with lots of real-world experience. And I'll vouch for him on both counts.
Don't disrespect Neil because of his confidence - it's well-earned and genuine.
He's been travelling internationally to meet with (and take direct coaching from) a number of the most-respected Gurus in the Seduction Community, both 'Pick Up' related ('Customer Acquisition') and Lifestyle/Philosophy related ('Customer Retention & Loyalty').
He was whooping it up in Mexico when I had an opening available to do three days of private mentoring work with him, and he jumped at the chance and flew into LA immediately - he took to my paradigms like fat to a mother-in-law, and immediately went to work applying them in-field, with predictable success (seriously, the kid's on fire!).
His dedication to self-improvement, his self-realized insights into human behaviour, and his enthusiasm for learning and applying things which he's learnt (from the most qualified teachers!) is inspirational as well as impressive.
I am completely confident that anyone who receives mentoring from him will come away feeling like a new man.
;87384']Who would win between Neil and Mystery?
Win? I know both guys personally, and neither of them has any need to compete? I was frankly disappointed that I wasn't able to coordinate introducing them while Neil was in LA - I was sure there would be appropriate respect flowing in all directions.
;87384']Ive been to his seminars and all i can say is that it sucks. He was talking talking and advertizing for his bootcamps that cost about 2000 $. And still he goes on talking. And incredible enough there people registered for his seminar bootcamp.
What does that tell you about his persuasiveness? ;)
I'm sorry you didn't appreciate the value in what he was sharing in his seminar, perhaps if while he was talking you'd tried listening, and maybe taking some notes so you could recall what he said, you'd have found it more valuable?
;87384']Ive even talked to this guy in person and asked if he wanted to be my wing and game with me for one night. And the answer i got was "Hey, come to my bootcamp and then I can be your wing."
Have you no appreciation for the value of professionals time? Neil charges for his mentoring, same as I do, same as Mystery does, same as every other professional service provider, in any profession!
If you went to a dentist and said "Hey, wanna clean my teeth for me?" he'd answer 'Sure, book an appointment, come to my office, and I'll be glad to!" and BOTH OF YOU would expect you'd be charged for the service.
If you went up to an escort and said "Hey, let's go back to my place and have sex all night" - she'd be glad to, EXPECTING YOU TO PAY HER FOR HER TIME.
;87384']omg omg omg. I never never paid for his seminar bootcamp ever.
I respect Mystery more. And even if i meet mystery in person i hope he does not say i should come pay for his bootcamp when i ask him out for gaming.
I believe Mystery isn't teaching bootcamps anymore, but last time he and I discussed it he was charging clients $5000+ to go out in-field with him for an evening.
Neil's rates are appropriately less dear than that ;) but I'm sure he provides solid value, and I KNOW he satisfies his clients.
Johnny Soporno
Guru's Mentor :)
Neil Natura
07-08-2008, 10:47 PM
dobbelt post
Neil Natura
07-08-2008, 11:02 PM
Hey mates and most importantly Heey Johnny - Thanks for linking me about this - I love to talk about how I can help men!
Ok, this has to be quick since I have to go to bed in 2 min. Like honestly im on my way to pass out ... Its 8 in the moring here in copenhagen.
Thanks for the kind words Johnny!
Anywayzz, I'm sure Mystery is a good guy, the videos I've seen of him has showed me that he has passion for this game!! I love guys like that!!
Atm. I don't think about anything else than game. I love this game. I go out 2 times a day and have one of the best mental trainers in the world on my side. He trains prof. poker players normally as a side thing.
About my training. I don't do small bootcamps anymore, almost. Most of my training involves with longterm students and I mostly charge 10 -20.000 dollars with COMPLETELY moneyback guarantee. My students say that I change lives with this long term stuff. I've trained personally around 500 guys in field and I love it. I could not think of any cooler or better job! (btw. I'm completely booked and don't take students in for the next 2-3 months, but if you want to get on the waiting list you are more than welcome to write me)
It's 7.30 AM right here - Me and my 5 studens has pulled around 30 people from the street this evening up to my apartement in Copenhagen.
One guy, Tais, pulled 5 girls and 2 guys up in the beginning of the evening - it was 11.30 PM. He met them at the central station and then he told them to come and party with us.. Then Tais proceeded to go home to his family and enjoy an evening with them. So 5 girls and 2 guys came up the apartement after Tais met them at the central station. Thats soo cool :D Here is Tais 2 months ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vevnnr6PgwI
This guy provided us with girls without even coming.. Thats awesome :D
An other of my students pulled 2 swedish girls up to project copenhagen 30 min. later. If I don't remember wrong it was Jay. Jay 2 months ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tells_lLwx4
Then 2 other students, "Tord and "ICE" later pulled 10 girls up. I still need the storry from them.
And finally: I pulled 13-15 kids up for an afterpary in the end of the night. Half of them women. I closed my target out and I've set up a day 2 tomorrow with her and her friend for IKEA shopping tomorrow since I have to do my apartement.
It was a good night and the logistics of my apartement has a lot to do with it aswell...
I don't have game...
BUT, I will say this:
Johnny Soporno is one of the guys in this community I respect the most. Period. I remember thinking: "This guy is insane..." LOOK AT HIM (No pun intended Johnny :P) .. He pulls Porn Stars and hot girls all the time. The guy could be my father!
An other guy I want to give credit to is: AFC Adam/Adam Lyons. I remember sitting at "Hooters" with Adam Lyons, in L.a.- Hollywood and thinking "This guy is a genious" -This guy is SICK! Never seen a guy with that solid game and I've seen a lot!!!
The same goes for Johnny obviosly. I don't just say this... I REALLY MEAN THIS!
I respect these guys and they offer a lot of value and I've learned a lot from them and I'll keep learning! They are IMO the best PUA's in the world. Go sign up with them right now!
Best,
Neil//
Ricky D
07-09-2008, 05:26 PM
I know Neil is a "rising star" in this community, i havent seen a lot of stuff from him but hes 1 of the guys im realy trying to track down to find out what he is up to.
I have heard nothing but good things about him...lol now that i think of it...i even sent the guy an email not so long ago, to try and get into his bootcamp!
Hes young and is already far ahead of many of us!
That means he is passionate about what he is doing and that he is working hard to get there!
Hes one of the guys im going to Amsterdam for (real man conference) to hear what he has to say.
It should be good!
The whole "Neil vs Mystery" thing is stupid imo tho, how can you even try and compare those 2, its like comparing "Pele" and "David Beckham" to name an exsample.
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