Do you ever turn off your game?

[Savvy]

Hey guys, Savvy here with a question based on personal experience.

Do you guys keep your pickup game on at all times as if it were a vital organ of your body or are there times in which you know it must be turned off?

I ask this because the small office in which I work goes out to happy hour quite often. My co-workers range from low 20's to low 30's so were all fairly young. Would it seem unprofessional if I were to run my game on others in the bar while my co-workers were there? Although we act very casually outside of the office, I've been playing it safe and not gaming.


Let me know what you think,

- Savvy

[FlashVW]

I've been trying to get to the bottom of this questiong for a little while. But, I think the conclusion is to have fun with it at work, try your little routines on the girls at work. I do it just for practice, today at work for example, I used Silver's note passing routine that actually worke really well. The other day I used Sigma's colour routing (that is fucking gold). So i just keep trying new routines all the time. The problem i'm finding is that i don't want to use the same routine on too many people at work. I don't want a girl to say... "yeah.. i know this one already, my friend told me about it". Another issues is some of the guys at work actually use the routines that they see me doing cause they work so well, and sometimes it sets them up to AMOG me at my own routine. They will be like, "oh flash uses this shit on all the girls". Hense, DLV. But if you have a strong frame, you should be able to disarm them. Just watch out for that. However, these concerns keeps me sharp, and gets me motivated to learn new routines all the time. I got the suggestion from CrimsonKing, the idea that you should try routines out at work.... so hopefully this helps sir
Cheers,
Flash.

[Savvy]

@ FlashVW: I appreciate the hasty reply Flash but I think you misinterpreted. I do not wish to game my coworkers, nor do I wish to practice routines on them. My dilemma is gaming in the company of them if we all go out to a bar after work...outside of the office atmosphere.

Also as a side note, I read your thread regarding telling other people about the community and what we do and various other posts youve made regarding pickup. In my humble opinion, I think you should stop utilizing this material so blatantly in the office. I say this because it seems like you have a habit of setting yourself to get AMOG'd by your male coworkers. Even if your routines seem to work well in the office, I would personally disrcedit the results because, in the office, they are not completely cold approaches. If you can do this on cold approaches, you would be doing yourself a huge favor in the long run because you wouldnt be hiding behind the safety net of being a coworker and not a complete stranger.

- Savvy

[FlashVW]

In response to, "Even if your routines seem to work well in the office, I would personally disrcedit the results because, in the office, they are not completely cold approaches.".

I'm still pretty new to the game, and i'm trying to go as deep into it as possible, so from time to time I'll get caught up on an idea and misinterpret the meaning.
Your totally right when it comes to cold approaches. Me and my wing have talked about using my co-workers as a safty net, and have come to the conclusion that I still have some AA. I'll stick to just posting questions and not giving advice for now, thanks for your concern,
Cheers,
Flash.

[Showcase]

Personally I like to run routines and whatnot in my workplace because where I work I have alot of HB's and it's not so much in an office environment, and it works great for me. Having said this it is very important that you do go out and do your cold approaches, because reactions can, and sometimes will be very different.

[relics]

It's not a question of having the ability to turn your game "off"

For me, I have never really conciously started being a PUA. I've read things and intertwined, and calibrated them to who I am as a person. I never conciously think "okay..open. Need a neg, oh shit forgot an FTC OMG I see the AMOG befriend or MOG the fuck out of him?"

I don't know...it's hard to explain. It's hard to turn off who you are.

[-Silver-]

You need to make an 'ecology' check to decide this. Meaning: If you did go ahead and game other people in the company of your work-colleagues, what effect do you for-see it having? Make a list of the likely impacts this could have on your work environment.

I'm assuming you're worried that your friends from work will recognize you running similar routines again and again on different girls. So make an ecology check as explained above, and make sure that any changes that are likely to occur will be worth accepting in exchange for being able to game in their view. Might not be a bad thing, you could end up with some new wings and pivots! :P

-Silver-

[Showcase]

Running routines isn't really a huge issue, it just comes off like you are telling a story or whatnot, and many people on a daily basis tell the same stories to different people, or even tell the story again while the same person is there in a new crowd...this is perfectly normal in society and happens all the time. For instance it happened once with me...I was running the jealous cat routine on an HB8 and an UG and the UG had already heard the story before...all i got was "Hey i think you mentioned this before." I finished the routine as normal and not another question was asked about it. As for gaming in the workplace, personally I don't care if I wreck my chances with any of the girls there...its only practice :)

[Savvy]

Thanks guys, I appreciate all of your opinions and you all gave me some important things to consider.

@FlashVW: I reread my post and I might have came off as a dick. Dont take it is a "stop posting noob", I am just giving constructive criticism. I think the main difference from running your game in the office and in the field is that if you run into a failed routine or annyoing AMOG out of the office (which is common when you first start out), who cares. You'll never see them again...NEXT! This idea of a clean slate can be very constructive when you're new to the game. Unless of course, you plan on closing with one of your co-workers which you have to determine for yourself.

@Spillz: My favorite word in both your posts: "story". A story is internalization of a routine or opener and im glad you used that word. When you put it into context like that, it seems more casual and natural. I never thought about telling a story like that in the company of my co-workers where it simply goes under the radar as a personal experience and not as scripted fiction.

@-Silver-: Your words are few but potent. You're right, I need to take a step back and access the situation to determine what outcome will materialate. You and Spillz are right in thinking my material may be "found out" and the idea has crossed my mind but if I make those "stories" a part of me, I dont think it should be a problem.

Random fact: I once had an English professor who studied at Harvard and she gave me probably the best piece of info regarding human memory. She told me that If I reread something outloud eight times (dont know why 8), at a slightly slowed pace, you will have engraved that information in your brain so well you can recall it on command and lie about it convincingly as if it were about you.

I also like that you brought up the notion of wings and pivots Silver, that has also crossed my mind. More specifically, I thought of utilizing my co-workers as social proof for DHV in reference to my professional competentcy.


Thanks guys, you really got my gears turning,

- Savvy

[Dodzer]

i know wat you mean im constantly gaming, in work, with female friends ect. i dont turn it off...... but the reason im not being called a player or a slimy bastard who wants to get into girls knickers is because the charm i practice(and im sure yous do also) is a type of charm that is discrete, therefore people cannot see your intention becaue you are negging and showing disintrest to the target......many times im introduced to a new group of people i run my game (without realising it)...... infact last week i was out with a my cousin and her friends, out of a group of seven girls and three boys, 5 of the girls turned out to be really intrested in me (i found out from my cousin later)....... but because of the game i was playen, the boys didnt seem threatened and seemed to like me

I dont see a problem in sarging in these type of situations because in the long term it puts you across at a fun, social proof person.

Dodzer