Assertive Dickheads in High School

[YoungScorpio]

I'm sure you've seen them in high school before. The type of people to tell the whole classroom to shut up then most people will listen. These people are used to putting betas back into line all of the time.

This isn't about women. I have issues about being told what to do when it sounds like an order minus a few exceptions. Having it come from classmates makes things even harder. What are some alternate ways to handle these fools besides the classic AMOGing?

Right now I'm AMOGing with:
"Who are you again?"
"You have a strong personality, were you beaten as a child?" ~ Mystery

PS: How can we open up an Off Topic section?

[Dynamism]

As a rule, the harder they push, the harder you push.
When someone tells you what to do just keep strong eye-contact for a few seconds and don't do anything. But don't have a hostile look on your face. Just a look of, "...and you are...?"

No one has the right to tell you what to do really, except the obvious exceptions (established figures of authority).

[YoungScorpio]

As a rule, the harder they push, the harder you push.
When someone tells you what to do just keep strong eye-contact for a few seconds and don't do anything. But don't have a hostile look on your face. Just a look of, "...and you are...?"

No one has the right to tell you what to do really, except the obvious exceptions (established figures of authority).
I'm sensitive about being told what to do in a bossy manner. I tend to remember that kind of stuff forever.

Thanks a lot for your advice. It doesn't require any words I like it.

[Dynamism]

Desensitize yourself from that kind of stuff by putting yourself in situations you find uncomfortable and just learning to deal with them. That’s how you grow.

[t@ngo.one]

I don't exactly understand what you're asking.
Some other person says shut up when you talk too loud/too much, how do you not seem beta to him or what? Please elaborate and be more specific about what you are trying to ask so my advice can be more helpful and effective.

[YoungScorpio]

I don't exactly understand what you're asking.
Some other person says shut up when you talk too loud/too much, how do you not seem beta to him or what? Please elaborate and be more specific about what you are trying to ask so my advice can be more helpful and effective.
Say you're laughing at whatever you find funny or just talking out loud. Maybe the whole classroom is being noisy. Then some fool who thinks he runs things says shut up like he's expecting that to be obeyed. It doesn't really matter if the person is telling it to me specifically or the entire class.

I want to know other ways besides verbal AMOGing to let that person know they aren't dominating anything.

[t@ngo.one]

Whenever they tell me to stfu me and everyone else just keep talking, it annoys the hell out of them.

[-Silver-]

To be honest dude i think the replies you're already working with are golden. If this 'guy who thinks he's in charge' is telling the whole class to shut up, then a line like that should get the majority of the class behind you. He'll obviously have another line to use after you've said your piece, but so long as you stay cool and collected you can just point out that he doesn't own the class at all.
Dynamism's advice about using a dramatic pause is good to remember. Not only does it make you look calm, it gives you an extra second to think of responses. He'll know the rest of the class is behind you though, and the more he tries to argue his ridiculous case, the more he'll be pushing the crowd onto your side.

Secondly, the more you push yourself into these situations, the better you'll become at dealing with them, just like Dynamism pointed out. It might feel awkward at first if you're usually the quiet type, and the rest of the class might not be so quick to follow your lead. But the more you do this, the sooner it will feel natural, and the sooner the class will get to recognize you as a leading character who doesn't take crap from jocks.

Hope that helps buddy!

-Silver-

[YoungScorpio]

He'll know the rest of the class is behind you though, and the more he tries to argue his ridiculous case, the more he'll be pushing the crowd onto your side.

-Silver-
Heh. I remember a day where my response to a girl's shut up to the whole class was, "Man you shut up". Everyone's face goes into shock as if I'm the villain.:confused:

[Nasarius]

If a student is screaming "shut the fuck up", it's probably because someone's trying to teach, right? So finish your sentence and shut up. It's not "alpha" or any such nonsense to prevent a poor guy from just doing his job.

If this isn't the situation, please explain.

[-Silver-]

Heh. I remember a day where my response to a girl's shut up to the whole class was, "Man you shut up". Everyone's face goes into shock as if I'm the villain.:confused:

Well then I would have to wonder if you're reading like the situation wrong like Nasarius is suggesting. Are you sure they are being cocky? Or is their demand justified? You don't have to combat every single loud-mouth in order to appear alpha, especially if they are doing the right thing in ordering a silence. That's going to come across as a DLV.

If you were seen as the 'villain', then I would imagine that girl was justified in telling you all to shut up. You don't want to be some other loudmouth remember!

-Silver-

[jooby]

Not everything is a big alpha war. Warring for control like this can come of beta as fuck so be careful.

How about you just continue talking...and if he says somthing about it, put him in his place.

[Dion]

Man the trick to amgoing and alpha destroying is never become angry mad or
seem annoyd.
heres what you shall doo

amog:shut up

pua:O shit sorry dude ...can i just say one more thing very quik i promise
then i will never talk(make the motion where you lock your lips with a key
and trow it away)

Say this funny and in a way were he will feel akward about it
you should say it in a way were you are telling him between the lines.
Look how stupid you are am i suposed to be scared.

it will work i promise say it playfully and fake scared but keep it nice
actually do shut the fuck up after you done.
Then he will feel weird like ok...wtf just happend.?
and then after a while go on with talking.

[-Silver-]

amog:shut up

pua:O shit sorry dude ...can i just say one more thing very quik i promise
then i will never talk(make the motion where you lock your lips with a key
and trow it away)

Getting them to jump through your hoop first is always good, but you should do your best to avoid using as many of the highlighted phrases as possible when you set up a hoop.

[phoenix]

But its in a mock, so it would be okay.

Wouldn't it?


And I dont know about you guys, at my high shcool, Guys just get violent, when you try and appear the alpha, they dont back down. they raise it up the only way the know how, through threats of violence.

Which i ssomething I still don't know how to avoid.

[Dragon]

I'm sure you've seen them in high school before. The type of people to tell the whole classroom to shut up then most people will listen. These people are used to putting betas back into line all of the time.

This isn't about women. I have issues about being told what to do when it sounds like an order minus a few exceptions. Having it come from classmates makes things even harder. What are some alternate ways to handle these fools besides the classic AMOGing?

Right now I'm AMOGing with:
"Who are you again?"
"You have a strong personality, were you beaten as a child?" ~ Mystery

PS: How can we open up an Off Topic section?

Lmao..don't take sh!t but then again know yourself. My view of you from this at this point is you don't. Sure you could say "Amog" lines but seriously, thats just asking to be tested especially they've seen you constantly.

As of this lil' hate you got about them..get over it, its not going do you any good. The analogy, you can fight the current and fall or go with it and just ride the it.

Best, Dragon

[phoenix]

Lmao..don't take sh!t but then again know yourself. My view of you from this at this point is you don't. Sure you could say "Amog" lines but seriously, thats just asking to be tested especially they've seen you constantly.

As of this lil' hate you got about them..get over it, its not going do you any good. The analogy, you can fight the current and fall or go with it and just ride the it.

Best, Dragon

Sadly he is right.

If you try and stand up to these people your not gonna win.

Wich is worse, being quit, or getting punched in the face?

[Dragon]

Sadly he is right.

If you try and stand up to these people your not gonna win.

Which is worse, being quit, or getting punched in the face?

Actually..bad scenario. 1st I don't advocate quiting, 2nd you have to stand up for your beliefs no matter than cost. I'm just saying..he needs to know who he is 1st and not be fake, in any context but this more so.

You can be fake but you'll eventually be exposed for the character your playing. A solution is develop yourself, know who you are, and just befriend them.

again, don't take sh!t, but you need to know your boundaries etc. on that.

Best, Dragon