Girls on Busses

[Poodie]

i recienty moved to Pittsburgh where they have a public transportation system of the likes ive never seen! i mean buses go EVERYWHERE! so i often ride busses to and from school and work, as it saves me LOADS of money with the rising gas prices. i noticed that a lot of beutiful women ride the bus to and from work as well, so i decided to take these oppurtunities to do some daytime sarges. i found myslf running into problems i never had before:

1) positioning- sometimes its almost impossibe to get into position to talk to the girl u want to (or any for that matter). if the bus is crowded it is completely left up chance whether or not there is an open seat next to the potential target. sometimes you are forced to stand, but i found approachig a target while hovering over her can be FATAL to the pick up, especially for large guys like myself. Approaches on busses that are less crowded are far easier, but those are rare.

2) comfort- women on busses are already tense before you approach them. it might b that they are uncomforable with having to be in such small quarters with so many strangers. if they are not curled into a ball or hopelessly pressing themselves against the side of the bus, they are sheilding themselves by allowing their face to be eaten by a Zane novel. they are also completely aware that they cannot exit if they feel threatened (becuse there is so place to go) so i found this adds another layer of discomfort and sometimes hostility. this makes them very difficult to open. i started throwing in a few extra time restraints to combat this, but no solid results yet.

3) social value- i am completey aware that i am building negative social value just be BEING on the bus in the first place. women autmatically assume that if a man is on the bus, he is either cant afford a car (which is extremely important with girls my age) or cant afford to keep gas in it. going into a set with a negetive image isnt all that desireable, but there seems to be no way around this (unless i pin a set of car keys to my shirt).

but i have found that once you do hook them, it is smooth sailing from there. Most times you dont have to worry about kino because you are probobly already touching them. while on a bus there is never a shortage of things (well people :D ) to talk about. and they are already locked into the set,

anyway i am looking forward to conquering this challenged and any advice or corrections would be appreciated.

[CrimsonKing]

I take the bus to work as well on days when I am just too tired to drive (usually because I was out sarging the night before), and I occasionally sets, but it always feels chunky. I've only ever had an e-close and a #-close for all my opens, and they went nowhere.

I too would be very interested in some tips for this kind of situation.

[Cedar]

...3) social value- i am completey aware that i am building negative social value just be BEING on the bus in the first place. women autmatically assume that if a man is on the bus, he is either cant afford a car (which is extremely important with girls my age) or cant afford to keep gas in it. going into a set with a negetive image isnt all that desireable, but there seems to be no way around this (unless i pin a set of car keys to my shirt). ...

...they have a public transportation system of the likes ive never seen! i mean buses go EVERYWHERE! so i often ride busses to and from school and work, as it saves me LOADS of money with the rising gas prices. i noticed that a lot of beutiful women ride the bus to and from work as well...

Bullshit. Being on the bus isn't a DLV. Being uncomfortable with being on the bus...is another thing. They're on the bus. If anything, riding the bus adds a level of comfort to these girls. It's something you have in common.

1) positioning- sometimes its almost impossibe to get into position to talk to the girl u want to (or any for that matter). if the bus is crowded it is completely left up chance whether or not there is an open seat next to the potential target. sometimes you are forced to stand, but i found approachig a target while hovering over her can be FATAL to the pick up, especially for large guys like myself. Approaches on busses that are less crowded are far easier, but those are rare.

It adds a lot of social pressure, but it can be done. Tell her she's beautiful in front of everyone, ask people to move and they will. You're providing free entertainment.

2) comfort- women on busses are already tense before you approach them. it might b that they are uncomforable with having to be in such small quarters with so many strangers.

Reframe. They're not uncomfortable. They're bored.

...this makes them very difficult to open. i started throwing in a few extra time restraints to combat this, but no solid results yet....

That's different than my experience. She's bored, you're bored. You chat for awhile. If you can keep the vibe up and qualify her, you'll get a Day 2. Your discomfort is getting in the way is all. Stop being uncomfortable with it. It's normal for you, it's normal for her.

Pickup101 is a decent resource for all things day game, btw.

[Nasarius]

Doing cold approach in a situation where you can't move for a while is an interesting case. I've found the bus stop is a great place (one of the benefits of attending a large university with its own extensive bus system) with similar constraints, but perhaps a little more freedom.

As Cedar says, just chat. Keep things relatively low-energy. Try to keep some distance; sit across from her if you can. I'd also second the recommendation of PU101; traditional Mystery A1/A2 material sucks for one-on-one approaches, and really sucks for daygame.

he is either cant afford a car (which is extremely important with girls my age)
Eh, bullshit. If you're fortunate enough to live in a city with good public transportation (and god knows there are precious few in the US), you don't need a car. It makes logistics slightly more difficult, but really, it's not an extension of your penis. I have a car just because it's the only option here in the barren deathscape of upstate NY. I have strangely received compliments from girls for it (it's a freaking 2004 Hyundai Elantra), but it doesn't get me laid.

As always, you should be wearing nice clothes. Girls pick up on that very quickly, and won't assume you're some poor schlub who can only afford the bus if you're well-groomed and wearing decent clothes.

[pr0x]

When ever I approach on the bus I usually use Cocky/Funny. If I'm standing and a girl passes by be I just say "Where you trying to grind on me" (with a smile) or sometimes I just say "Did you just try to grab my ass?"

If I'm not using cocky/funny I just open with a funny story about an old lady on the bus farting as she was getting up from her seat or something.

[-Silver-]

Well unlike Rewok I believe this community is all about sharing tips and routines to help each other. I made a game that I have field tested many times for this sort of situation, and i'll post a topic for it. I'll call it 'Silver's Letter-Passing Game' so search for that if you cant find it.

-Silver-

[Vincent Chase]

Dude, wow.

Okay, you typed a lot and I don't feel like reading through huge paragraphs to find out how to help you.

Basically what i'm seeing is that you're having issues with chicks on busses.

I never approached a chick on a bus before and walked away with a number the first time I tried it. Clean shot.

I've done it several times now and while i'm not an expert if you can simply and clearly ask a question i'll definitely give you an answer bro.

[Poodie]

Cool. thanx for all your help. i reframed and went in with a little more confidence and sets opened much easier. i also tried silvers letter passing game for the first time today and got emails all three times ( no numbers yet) but i had some of the most fun i ever had while gaming (thanx bro). one question though, wat is pickup 101 and where can i find it?

[-Silver-]

@Rewok: I give people advice when they want it - I'm not cool...? Sure thing man, if only i was as cool as you right? Damn it keeps me up at night...

@PoodieI'm glad it worked as well for you as it does for me! Keeping it fun is important, so it's cool you enjoyed it. That's what this game was designed upon: Showing a fun and interesting side to you!

-Silver-

[Vincent Chase]

Poodie, if you liked the advice I gave you, feel free to regurgitate it for the rest of the world, if you like.

See you 'round, dudes.

[deuz]

Not that long ago I did a post on brusselslair about train/bus pickup, if I have some time I'll translate it complete but here's a short version:

1. Go early to the bus stop & open hb's that are waiting ("is this the bus to..." is verry easy =)" + transition)
2. Focus on DHV if you like the chick & she opens good
3. Enter the bus FIRST & don't look at her to get confirmation, it's best if you keep talking, but if you've built enough attraction it doesn't matter
4. If you played it good the hb will follow you & go sit next to you
5. You've now lot's of time to built rapport & num close =)


<If there are some dutch pple here, the original post>
Een tijd geleden had ik hier op't forum gelezen over pu op de trein (HH die zijn closes daarmee verdubbelt had (?)). Maar ik vind het wat vervelend om bij een zittende set op de trein te gaan zitten & openen omdat ze dan echt niet weg kunnen & je er de hele tijd "verplicht" zit. De trein stukken die ik doe zijn ook lang (+-1u) dus als je dan toch met een saaie hb zit heb je pech. :p
'n tijd geleden had ik dan toch een close op een trein zonder van die "problemen" last te hebben gehad. Via backwards engineering kwam ik dan op het volgende stappen plan:


How to:
1. Wat vroeger naar het perron gaan & daar hb's openen (hier stopt toch de trein naar xx? -> transitie) redelijk makkelijk om te openen
2. Als je met een leuke hb aan de praat bent geraakt, dan blijf je natuurlijk praten tot de trein er aan komt, natuurlijk doorpraten als de trein stopt =)
3. Je stapt als eerste (!) in de trein & gaat een plaats zoeken, best terwijl je praat, maar maakt niet zoveel uit als je genoeg attraction hebt gecreërd. (= test)
4. Zij volgt je waarschijnlijk als een braaf hb'tje & je hebt tijd zat om rapport te bouwen & te numclosen +)

**Als zij eerst instapt ben je
a) minder dominant, je moet haar volgen
b) jij gaat bij haar zitten ipv andersom zoals het hoort


Voordelen:
Je kan dit heel makkelijk zonder wing doen
Hb's komen daar vaak alleen voor zodat je geen last hebt van vervelende obstakels
Als je goed attractie hebt opgebouwd gaat de rest bijna vanzelf

[Frank T J Mackey]

I disagree with being on the bus as a DHV..we live in environmentally concious times so it can show concern,awareness and practicality..I think they are great social arenas, particularly for casual more natural openers with people being on the way home from work or going out somewhere etc.

[Lacoste]

I love the "Fake Call" gambit:
Just sit opposite the girl, ask her something (for example, "Could you tell me please where is the final station? I've just moved to this city, so I havn't learnt the bus route yet"), pretend that somebody is calling you and say loudly "I really don't like this city anymore, the girls here are too shy! One girl is looking at me all the time, and she even doesn't try to get acquainted with me! I've even decided to help her and started to talk with her, but there's no result!", after this "call" ask her smth else as if nothing had happened and keep talking with her.

It's some kind of direct opener (of course, it will give her too much IOI too early), but I've field tested this twice and both times I got girls' #.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english, I'm from Russia, and it's little bit hard for me to write in English