AFC in training

[sCindo]

I stumbled upon this community about 3ish weeks ago and have been extremely keen on learning more and more about everything involved. However I am having a few problems and could really use a bit of advice.

About me:
Australian, 6foot 5ish, 19y/o, KJ when I'm not working full time, medium build, sort of the next average bloke my age. I'm reasonably new to my city(still in aus, capital city of my state) and don't really know anyone here other than my work mates. I have read the VAH and various other material such as double your dating (David Deangelo) but not "The Game" and also have been lurking around these boards as well as bristollair as well as seductionfast.

Anyway, I'll try not to make this post into a novel. I got invited out to one of my work mates bday bashes at a club in the heart of the city, only 5 of us ended up going. Know someone who knows someone and skipped the line to get in as well as having a tab set up for my friend who's bday it is for free drinks for our little group. Was a pretty sweet setup. The club was pretty much r&b + some "popular" techno and because I didn't know what to expect I was stoked at the atmosphere of the place. I got off an 8 hour shift at work then we went straight to the club, we got there at around 11:30pm.

Anyway a few issues I had included "interference" from the friends I was there with as well as approach anxiety. I know you should approach within 3 seconds of seeing a possible target and I fully intended to walk in and open a set in the first "3seconds" of getting into the place, instead I found myself analyzing the possible sets a little too much like "oh shes not really my type" and "too many males in the group" and also having the fear of opening on a set of girls who are too old/ugly (might look alright from behind but scary when you get around the front). Anyway to overcome this other than experience (I feel lack of experience is stopping me from getting more experience)? BTW I don't think its practical to sit around "tapping" my hands and elbows for 5 minutes trying to build up nerve. Especially in front of friends who will dismiss me as a nut job.

The interference from the friends included "we are going to go dance now" and basically being right next to me or opposite me when I'm looking at opening. The girls were also trying to push me into dancing with girls on the dance floor. I am a super noob dancer but tried to exert confidence, and I poached dance moves from other blokes across the room and such. But I still really lack knowledge and confidence on the dance floor.

The 2 girls in our little party are 7's and 1 has a BF. They both alot more experienced than I am and I had a bit of a chuckle watching every time they got hit on by another bloke in the club. They are both awesome and I could definitely get them both pivoting for me (they did do a bit and helped with social proofing me on the dance floor). How do I get these 2 to create the false attraction to build social proof and attraction from other girls around the club? I feel we all genuinely not interested in each other because of our working relationship and the fact 1 of them has a BF.

Also I am having trouble meeting friends outside work since I don't really have any hobbies at the moment.

Any advice other than experience would be handy, thanks. :p

[FlashVW]

It's VIP that you read "the game" and then the "Mystery Method". Why? Well, it not only prepares your for the dating game, but it also applies to every other aspect of your life. I find my whole life perspective has changed. So this is a warning as well, if you want to change the way you look at life then read it, but if you want to stay the same, then don't pick up either book. Cause i can't turn it off now, it's always on my mind, but i love it. The books basically validate you as a human being. That's what you really need in your life right now.

Oh, and about your comment about meeting new people... just listen to Myster on Conan, his advice was simple... "get out of the house"... joke, but no joke. Your the man, keep seeking help and change your life.
Cheers,
Flash

[sCindo]

So you are saying that I was supposed to go from "The Game" to "The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed (2007)" to "The Venusian Arts Handbook (2005)"? Sorry for coming off like an asshole, I'm not trying to be, just had some trouble interpreting what you said.

Thanks for the response and advice :)

[CrimsonKing]

A lot of people get into this by reading "The Game" and then moving into "The Mystery Method" or the VAH. "The Mystery Method" is basically a cleaned up version of the VAH, and it's a hardcover book, which just feels cooler.

I've actually never read the game myself. I just dove right into the VAH back in the day. "The Game" is a story. An inspiring one for sure, but I wanted to jump right in and learn all I could so I never bothered with it.

[Showcase]

I started off with a friend introducing "The Game" to me. It's a really inspiring novel, and I definitly reccommend you read it if you get the chance but its not necessary to read, and it's not alot of hands on advice like you would find in the VAH or MM(hardcover book).

[sCindo]

Im about 60 pages into The Game as we speak. :)

[deluded]

Yes its a really good read. I really have to get my shit together too. :/

[sCindo]

Finished reading it. Had a day off.

[Yoda]

So what are your thoughts now? :p

[sCindo]

Well to be honest, I feel like I didn't really learn alot from The Game, other than finding out why the most "famous" pua's are "famous", and also the origins of what I would call "modern seduction".

It was definately and interesting book and would recomend people who are just starting to read The Game first thing they do.

But I am still wanting to get answers about some of my problems in my OP. Meeting new people outside of clubs, and making the pivots more effective. Any ideas?