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BluesClues86
04-18-2007, 11:21 PM
I've seen a few other people address this on other threads, but I'd like to make and emphasize a few points about talking to girls online that I think will be helpful. Some of it's just common sense, but all is stuff I've dealt with myself and seen personal improvement from addressing. This is far from complete, so if anyone has any other tips to add, please do so.

1) Keep it simple. You don't have body language to read or other cues to pick up on, so calibrating is far more difficult. Girls often participate in conversations just to appease you - without paying attention to what you're saying - and online you have no way of knowing when she's lost interest. Keeping it simple keeps you out of danger. If you're having conversations where "lol", "cool", or "k" make up the entirety of a response, it may be time to reassess the situation.

2) Use proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation. These things are vital to online game. Even though the conversation is non-verbal, we process things we read pretty similarly to how we process the things we hear. If you don't know basic rules about punctuation - which some people may not - at least be sure your sentence makes sense. Regardless of who I'm talking to - unless it's a good friend who I'm totally just shooting the shit with - I never send anything that I haven't reread first. Imagine how it sounds in your mind, and if it doesn't flow easily and make sense, make it so. If you feel like a pause would be good at a certain point, put a comma there. If a certain word sounds bad coming after another word, move it. Make it easy to read and understand what you're typing.

3) Be nice! She can't see you, so you don't have a handsome smile and relaxed body language to go along with your negs and disqualifiers. You want them to be effective, but not taken too seriously. It's easy enough to throw a neg in-field and then carry on with your story, but online, everything you say stares her in the face for another few minutes until it gets pushed off the screen. I'm not saying don't do it, but be mindful of these things when you do. If I'm negging online, I usually start the sentence with a "haha" or end with a smiley face.

4) Remember to be the exception! It's easy to make little lists when talking about what you're looking for, your interests, etc. Every AFC out there says "I'm looking for someone I can relate to," "I like people who make me laugh," "I like honesty and communication without bullshit games." Who the hell doesn't want those things? You can also sit there and say "I like to ski, fly planes, play laser tag, sky-dive, volunteer to entertain cancer-stricken children, learn new things, etc," but again, you're just listing interests, and no matter how interesting they are, they're just words. They don't convey personality, feeling, or excitement in any way. A faked "Oh, you fly planes?!" is the most you'll get out of her. The solution? Tell stories that CONVEY all of these things. Don't tell her you're a funny guy with a good sense of humor: SHOW IT TO HER. Don't list your interests, tell her ABOUT them, how you got into them, where you do them, how you feel when you're doing them, etc. That's the shit that attraction is made of.

5) Don't have bullshit meaningless conversations. A lot of people keep their AIM/MSN/Google open all the time and talk to whoever happens to be online. Ever had a "hey, sup? nmu? nm. cool" conversation? They're a waste of time and nobody really enjoys having them: it just DLVs you by showing that you don't have something better to do than idle at your computer waiting for people to talk to. Plato once said "Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something."

Be the wise man.

Showcase
04-19-2007, 05:27 AM
Good post, but to add something, if you are not already using emoticons frequently in online game I would start. Since you can't really express yourself over online chat emoticons allow you to do so slghtly. If you are making a cocky funny remark throw in the smiley with the tongue out face at then end, dropping emoticons every once and awhile, especially during cocky funny(so she doesn't completely think your an asshole) will help your online game a bunch.

#1AFC
04-20-2007, 09:19 PM
Nice does not work online! Online is just like real life in that nice=AFC!!!

Every guy is nice... working comfort prior to creating attraction.

I usually tell the woman that I wont send them my pic unless they show me that they are worthy of seeing it. It drives them insane!

Sometimes I say that their picture looks like they are a whore or I make fun of their profile saying every girl online writes the same shit like you do!

The more of a cocky asshole the better as soon as you become nice they stop emailing!!!!

jad87
04-23-2007, 01:52 PM
I have to disagree with u #1AFC ...and I believe your words were insults (U r a whore)..say this to a girl and i assure ull get attention a BRUTAL one...

BluesClues86
07-18-2007, 11:55 AM
My post was more about general guidelines. If you have something that works better for you, obviously you should do that. None of my suggestions are immutable. To clarify my point about being nice, I am not saying be a total AFC. I've sat with a few girls before while they flirt on AIM or respond to Myspace messages, and the number of messages they get is atrocious. I can tell you right now - from the girl's perspective - what she sees online all the time:

1) Sympathy guy - he knows he doesn't have a chance with her - he kisses her ass and plays the sympathy card, hoping that if he acknowledges her superiority, maybe she will take pity and select him as a friend

2) The oAFC - the online AFC introduces himself, makes smalltalk, asks what she does for work or is majoring in, and has a boring little conversation until she says she has to go and then stops responding. He doesn't understand why.

3) The wannabe PUA - he starts off well and gets her qualifying a bit, but once she jumps through a few hoops he lets his guard down and reverts to "normal AFC" or "sympathy guy." Or she shit-tests him by responding negatively to something cocky he says, and instead of holding his ground, he starts groveling at her feet. Girls can smell these immediately, and they'll indulge them for a while longer, but unfortunately there's still no A for effort.

These observations are from actually sitting with the girls and watching it happen. From the first two or three messages they could tell me what kind of person he was, and usually they were right. They have already seen all the patterns and been there literally thousands and thousands of times before. Am I saying you should be a nice guy online? No, that si not my intention. But be mindful of the fact that you can't actually change tone, smile, laugh online - so anything negative you say is more likely to be misinterpreted.

Daras
07-18-2007, 03:29 PM
I'll send you my real pictures if you send me your real personality. - Nail Strauss