Request for Openers

[The MD]

So here's the deal. My freind and I are both new to the community. We read the Game, and are currently reading the Mystery Method. i have been researching this stuff hardcore since I started about a month ago. i feel like a sponge trying to aqquire all the knowledge possible.

TO THE POINT-
I was needing good openers. i thought since everybody was using them then maybe we could post them on one thread. This one would work or if anybody had a better idea...
I have tons of routines, and great ways to keep her interested and entertained, but it would really help if i could get a list of openers to choose from when attempting to approach.
Any responses would be great. I am focusing on two types of approaches. The casual club scene-where I will be appraoching groups. And the day approach- where I intend to approach girls alone who may be reading or on their own.

Thanks Guys,

the MD

[Showcase]

hey buddy, welcome to the community!

To get you started you should take a look at

www.bristollair.com

They have a great site with alot of material on it. As well as some other stuff to work on inner game. Another great site is

www.seductiontuition.com

There should be enough material in these sites to keep you going for awhile, also don't be afraid to use material from the book "The Game" although its basically mainstream, I have tons of success soem of the material.

[Showcase]

What Rewok said is very true, in many cases you don't even need to finish the opener. Milking the opener can hurt your game as well.

[The MD]

Thanks,


Thats a good point. Rewok mentioned A2 and A3. waht does that stand for?

the MD

[relics]

F2M and M2F respectively.

Go get the Venusian arts handbook. That should clear things up.

[CrimsonKing]

Hey MD, welcome to the community!

The links Spillz posted are fantastic for material. In all honesty though, you really only need a couple of openers. One of the mistakes I made when I first started out was to try to create a library of material when I should have been focussing on building my inner and outer game.

Now, Mystery says you will eventually accumulate something like 300 little sound bites that you will have at your disposal during a set. But it's best to small-chunk these things into your game. But if you haven't been already, you need to get out sarging ASAP. Memorize one or two openers and some routines and GO OUT SARGING. Get those internalized and naturalized and then add some more. Add some Qualifiers and some comfort tactics. And if you run out of things to say (and it happens, believe me) just push forward anyway. I think you learn so much more from sets where you have no idea where to go but push forward anyway, than with sets where you know exactly what to say.

The point is to make sure that you are always going out to try out your material, then adding more material, and then trying it out too until you have a robust library of routines and gambits internalized. Dont turn into one of those Keyboard Jockeys who tell themselves that they will go out once they have assimilated every piece of material out there. Don't be one of those guys who thinks they need a specific opener or routine for every possible situation.

"What opener should I use on a 3 set with two HB8s and one UG if they are in a semi-loud environment, having an energetic conversation, with the target sitting against the wall and the obstacles standing and facing her?"

Don't get into that mentality.

Also, if you're really looking for some fast improvement to your game, take a bootcamp. You will see a lot of people bitch and moan about the cost and how it's not worth it, etc. But most of those people are KJs or are just jealous that they don't have the drive or the will to succeed required to put the money together and do it. You talk to anyone who took a bootcamp and they will rave about it for hours. I know I certainly do.

Good luck in your endeavours! Hope to hear some good field reports from you.

[FlashVW]

Thanks for posting that Crimsonking. You really have a way with words. You made me realize that i'm one of those guys that feels the need to have all this material to work with before i go out and sarge. My buddy and wingman go out and he does all the approaches, and i just sit back and comment on him at work. Although I do pick up, it's mostly from this leftovers, or from the chicks that he did all the work attracting and i just didn't pay attention to. So, thanks for the insight,
cheers, Flash.