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Private 1 on 1 With Matador in LA, The Birth of Achilles

March 12, 2010 by admin  
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What's it like when you have a Master PUA watching over you in the field and giving you instant feedback on your game? Can you imagine the confidence you would feel having a powerful Jedi at your side as you're weaving in and out of the Matrix of social dynamics. I recently had the opportunity and the privilege to be trained one on one by the star of VH1s "The Pickup Artist" and one of the legends of the game "James Matador".

Prior to this one on one I had attended a few bootcamps and had literally read and listened to EVERYTHING I could get my hands on, in regards to the game. Needless to say I was very successful in my social life and really had no shortage of beautiful women. I had met Matador at the LA bootcamp and it was his presence and deeper understanding of the game (Matador Mayhem) that got my attention right from the start. I had a similar vibe to my game and instantly knew that it was my goal to study under him as I felt he could shed some light on my game which would catapult me to a new level. 

Long story short the opportunity presented itself and I found myself sitting on 'Melrose' eating sushi in front of my, now teacher and mentor, Matador as he whipped out the laptop and started to demo for me different concepts. He listened as I broke down my game and my understandings and through guided questions helped me to come to a groundbreaking realization about my way of being that was preventing me from being much more effective. 

That night we hit the club and I went to work demonstrating my skills. Gotta say it was a little nerve racking having him stand a few feet away from me or sit inches away right next to me and watch as I was running my game. After I had isolated a few different sets and lost them, I went to him and said “why the fuck am I losing these fucking sets?” he smiled and said Ill show you and then proceeded to demo to me how I was sitting and what I was communicating. The stories from that night are stuff of legends. To get into the details would surely seem as if im exaggerating. However I can tell you that we ended up back at his house with a party of 9 women. I witnessed first hand why "Matador" has become the legend that he has as the three model type Blondes excitedly made their way into his bedroom for a "Foursome" took place! 

Even though I was running on no more than a couple of hours of sleep, the next morning I was up early and ready to take on the day. I will tell you that by the second day I cant tell you exactly what had happened but I knew I was a different man. I walked through the streets and the people were reacting very differently to me. I met up with Matador and we went through another 6 hours of theory and drilling. This day he was very interested in my experience of the night before and I was very excited to report the changes I had been feeling. I had seen my mistakes clearly and had experienced life changing results. I was ready to ask my questions to clear up a few points which I needed help on. We took a little break and were going to meet up again at night to go out. During the 3 hours in between the lecture and going out I literally had women putting their numbers in my hand. It was truly amazing. The effortlessness of it all seemed a little serial. I got dressed and ready to go out and this night I knew it was on. My game had changed and all the little tiny things I was doing that was preventing closes were taken out and I was ready to put this shit to the test in the club as I had already seen its power in the streets the mall and restaurants. We met up and hit club Delux in LA. The experience was absolutely out of this world. There is a song by Rhianna and JayZ entitled Were Gonna Run this Town Tonight and I tell you Matador and Achilles ran that town that night. The club was ours. All the women were ours. All the guys were owned. The bouncers were our fans. The hired guns were our adoring spectators. By the end of the night if you had walked in you would have thought that Matador and I were the club owners! The night ended very similar to the night before with us ending up at Matadors apartment followed by our newly acquired entourage. I will save you the details but movies and books could be written about the experiences of that night. 

By the next morning I felt different. I looked different. Everywhere I went it seemed as if I had a fuckin scent coming off of me that was bringing girls to me begging for my attention. I was at ease. I was calm. I finally had total confidence in this area of my life. I have been back for a few days now and EVERY area of my life has changed for the better. My skills are still with me and growing. Matador had told me to stay in contact with him and update him on my game and ask any questions. The next day I called him and thanked him for a life changing experience and let him know how things had changed for me. He said “Get a pen and paper and write this down” and then proceeded to breakdown in more detail what he had observed and what I needed to do to continue to improve. 

I have achieved many, many things in life and have had the privilege to study with different icons of our time in different fields including Acting and Martial Arts. After having met James Matador I am proud to call him my teacher and my good friend and let it be known that I assure you whatever stories you may have heard about the skills of the man, if you doubted it, it was due to your own inability to understand the reality he lives in. I have witnessed first hand why he is a Master PUA and I have been and am continuing to be trained by one of the best Pick Up Artists of our time James Matador.

- Achilles

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Program Review for Lovedrop and Kosmo, by Pashin, Seattle Bootcamp, May 08

June 3, 2008 by Blitz  
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Just back from the Seattle bootcamp. I had an awsome time!

LoveDrop and Kosmo gave tonnes of value and energy. The best part is that it was smaller group and it was possible to get very personalized advice and questions answered directly from the coaches. All of the students there were totally cool as well! (What up guys )

Getting one-on-one feedback from the coaches is amazing, this is what really helped my game the most. Getting feedback from professionals with experience really sets your calibration.

Being that there is no VH1 in Canada, I was so impressed by the energy that Kosmo delivers. It is infectious and something I will imitate in field.

 

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Program Review for Mystery and Lovedrop, by l1ndo, United Kingdom Bootcamp, May 08

May 31, 2008 by Blitz  
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That’s right guys, lindo’s been hanging out with Mystery & Lovedrop yo!

“You know how we role in the Two Double O 8” – aki

Haha

My heads still in turmoil and excitement from such a crazy rollercoaster of a weekend.

I wont be writing on everything that happened otherwise id be here all day typing so I’ll cover the highlights plus I’ve just about got some feeling in my fingers but more on that in awhile (did I just do a multiple thread mmmm lol)

So where to begin hey? Well I guess it all started when I started hanging out with my good buddy Discovery (the latest member of the VA team based in the UK).

He had just come from the states after doing a VA boot camp and impressed the shit out of Mystery and co. Pulling girls left right and centre so they decided to invite him back over to instruct in the USA where he had a girl every night. He quickly became good friends with them and they all decided to do the VA seminar & boot camp over in Birmingham. Discovery loved my energy and told me to come on board and be an approach coach. At first I kinda shit a brick thinking theirs no way I could do that since
1) my game was nothing compared to his or the VA masters
2) I haven’t ran a structured game mindset in over a year.

But thought why not since it was a once in a lifetime opportunity to meet Mystery & I needed something to rekindle my love for the game (hence me not posting anymore and just getting wasted on the weekends).

Aaaaywayz….. so the week starts of by me get ripped apart by a dog. It’s a American pitbull that fucks up my legs and hand and im thinking theirs no way I’ll be able to do a workshop but I decide either through sickness or in health im gonna do it so on Tuesday I go to Discoverys house where the infamous Lovedrop (Mysterys right hand man) will be teaching the approach coaches on what is needed on the weekend.

I thought this was cool since the talk wasn’t about game but on how to instruct students. There was Caddy, Cheeky, G and myself as the approach coaches. The talk had a lot of value.

So Thursday roles around and my man Cheeky & I decide to meet Lovedrop & Discovery in Birmingham town just to chill out. We all chit chat over a meal and it was funny as fuck listening to Lovedrop. The guy’s one down to earth dude, who’s unbelievably funny and easy to get along with,.

Now it’s Friday. The big day and I get my lazy ass out of bed and stroll down to the Malmaison hotel where the seminar is. Im not even in the headspace of whats going to happen and just in my own world. I open the door to the seminar room and theirs around 20 guys plus the coaches and fuckin MYSTERY doing his talk! My heart starts to beat fast and I can’t believe what im witnessing. Mystery, live, in real time, in a room with me! After 4 years of watching this guys videos and reading his stuff, the guys in the same room as me. A very exciting time indeed. But I just sit in the back and begin to soak up the knowledge. Lovedrops doing his talk now which is kickass by the way! It was interesting since they’ve moved away from 100% structured model and he talked about their new book which covers a lot of vibing, being uncreative and in the moment stuff alongside realistic principle on how to use routines. Stuff like how guys get baffled and just run routine stacks when really it’s all about the vibe and adding to it than killing the vibe. Very interesting and I learned a lot.

Funny thing was that throughout the talks, and if your like me who’s read and watched everything on pickup, it was similar to what I already know, but something about being in the room when they explained their topics, made so much sense. It was like you could FEEL what they were saying which I could never have gotten from watching a video or reading abook. It finally made sense.

After a looong day of theory, the night roles around and each approach coach gets their students and we all head to a bar named Apres. To be honest (and that’s all I ever am these days? ) my hearts pounding am im feeling some major anxiety. Not like your normal anxiety though. This was different. I had to teach some students (who looked up to me in awe), open some sets myself & prove my value to the VA team. It was a first for me and in the two hours I was feeling the AA but ploughing through. I helped the students open a few sets and corrected them on where they did right and wrong. I got some great feedback from them. Nice.

We headed over to Mechu which was just kickass. I’m going cockeyed, as one eye is on my students and the other is marvelling Discovery, Lovedrop and Mystery do their thing. Dicovery and Mystery are TEARING UP the club! They’ve opened the hottest girls and hooked, locked in, holding court and now got proximity from other women. Mystery was so cool. He has this very playful smile on, and just strolls through the club saying Hi. Hooks everytime. If I had to describe him, it’s basically everything you already thinking. He is larger than life. Physically and energy wise.

The students are doing awesome too. Some of them are already in the VIP area of the club with women. Mystery and Discovery and running kino demos and routines. Funny thing is, these guys practise what they preach. It isn’t like they’ll teach a few stories and gambits and not show you. The guys are ACTUALY USING them in field which really impressed me cos I learned its all about how you deliver and way you say it. Good stuff.

Long, looong, veeery long story short…….. Mystery and Discovery mange to bounce 2 legs11 strippers and 1 FHM/Maxim model back to the penthouse suit (Discoverys room) at the Malmaison. Okay, bye students, L1ndos off to the after party.

What a night!. In the room we have some of the hottest girls ive seen around. People would call them super HB10s but ill call em Dolly girls cos they look like blown up versions of Barbie and Sindy.

Theirs also Discoverys female pivot who’s a stunner in the room. I don’t exactly know everything that happened that night since we all got wasted but the highlights were, these dolly girls trying to compete for attention off Discovery & Mystery in their weird little girl ways and hitting on Cheeky and myself just so they could get a reaction from Mystery and co.

TBH, I wasn’t even in the headspace of laying these chicks since in my mind…. Firstly I dint pull them so there Mysterys and Discoverys even though there’s plenty of hotties to go around, and all I wanted to establish was talking to Mystery on a 1 on 1 level, and did I forget to mention I was WAAASTED!. That’s right, Mystery and I got wasted together. Nice ?
The guy was cool though, since he made time for me and answered questions that id be meaning to ask him like, what happened in the game, he’s views on the the whole PU community, how he made it to where he is today, business related issues, personal stuff, all he’s beefs etc, etc. The guys a cool cat. Showing off magic tricks and an insight to his game.

At one point I was taking a piss in the urinal and when I turned around their was Mystery getting a blowjob off the female pivot. LOL. I saw Mysterys cock yo!. HAHAHA Funny shit. “May I cut in” is what I said. Gotta love soundbites. Cheeky and Discovery have been taking the mick out of me all week and before anyone starts busting my balls, I know its gay and corney but funny nontheless. LOL

It’s like 10:00am now and its only Discovery and I with the 2 dolly birds. These girls are nuts. So high maintenance. They argue one second then “kiss” n makeup the next. I tried getting into their conversation cos it was some random excitement but Discovery tells me to not interfere and carry on talking amongst ourselves. He said their like little girls wanting attention and if you get sucked in. you lose your power. So we chatted about our own shit since it was our reality and the girls were part of it no matter how hot they were. 2mins later the girls are both in to us again. Its little things like this that you learn out in the field and im glad he pointed it out. So I leave about 10:00am while Discovery has a 3some with 2 of the hottest girls ive seen. He deserved it since he has done a lot for the night. Good stuff bruv.

Its now Saturday and everyone’s feeling wrecked from the night before. Some more seminar time and then were back out in the field. We head up to Oceana since it’s a good place for the students to learn. Plenty of women and different bars for them to practise on. All I can say is, ive never seen anyone OWN a club before. We had the VIP room booked and everyone including the students had swarms of women coming in and out of this room. I got to watch Mystery do his thing text book style. He opens, negs, hooks, qualifys etc, etc. It was a beautiful sight.

The most amazing part of this night was when he says “Right, Lindo. We shall head off to the Ice Room just you and I” “Oookay” I say.
I’m getting nervous since it’s like a 1 on 1 with this guy. By the way, the ice room is the LOUDEST room in the venue where everyone’s drunk and going caveman on women. Mystery walks in followed by myself. This 6foot skinny white boy in a room full of asian and black guys. EVERY guy and girl just stopped and looked at him. He strolls through the room with a nice big smile, eyeballing everyone saying hi. Everyone he sees smiles and says hello back. Even the meanest rough looking guys. He’s always pointing out and talking game and goes into how everyone’s a social robot and how no ones a special snowflake since we all have the same emotional circuitry. Lol. He points out a 10 set and tells me to go in. Im like “WTF”. But their all small, ugly girls (the ones Cheeky normally goes for). And from past experience, there the hardest to open since their so bitchy.

But I go in and guess what…. BOOM… I get blown the fuck out. Mystery comes over and says well done. My problem was I sat down to quickly. “Now let me show you how its done ? “ In 1minute and 30 secs, these girls that were super feisty are all over his shit. He just talks he’s talk and makes her drinking straw disappear. She wont let him leave. Amazing. Other women see this and all line up around us. I now know what proximity is. I mean REALY know. Then he strolls through the club and spots the club dancer girls dancing in their little booth. I tell him Discovery pulled one. He loves challenges and goes over. He looks at her, smiles and does a pinky hold with his little finger and she complies and comes of stage. He then roles off and talks to me for 10secs while she stares at him waiting for him to talk and as he moves in to talk to her again, she gets groped by some drunk dudes and runs off. So close.

Some bouncers keep stopping him about taking of his hat. This is like the 10th bouncer and Mystery kinda gets alittle irritated. The guy leans into the bouncer and tells him off. That’s right, he cusses the bouncer. He’s eyes all go all massive like their gonna pop out his socket. The bouncer doesn’t doesn’t know what to do (I think this a first for him). The bouncer apologises and I see the other bouncers in the background laugh. The impression that I got was, he’s like a really cool guy but don not fuck him. Sorta like Joe Pesci from godfellas.

The guys like a super star where he has women around him at all times and girls come up to me and ask “is the famous. Who is he”. Then theirs guys and girls who were approaching him all weekend recognising him from the show “the pickup artist” & the seduction community. He makes time for everyone.

Everywhere we went that weekend; it was like we were Super Stars. Bouncers that normally wouldn’t let me in, would kiss my ass. Women were all asking about us. I told everyone, we were the VH1 show team, and we’re checking out the clubs in the UK for filming our next show. All the students were camera crew etc. (I had to make something up. How else do you explain 20 students in a club macking the ladies).

Okay, that’s enough typing, and im not gonna go into Sunday or Monday except it was cool just to go out with the VA team (instructors and approach coaches) without no students. Good times.

If you asked me a week ago if id pay to go a MM bootcamp and role with Mystery for £3000 or whatever it is, the answer would be HELL NO…. but I gotta tell ya, today if you’d ask me the answer would be a HELL YES!. This is aint no bullshit. The guys the real deal. Everything he talks about he demos. As he put it….. his method isn’t the right way, just he’s method. The “Mystery Method” and its what works for him so he teaches it. He has a lot of love for all the different coaches and training schools out there.

I just wana to say, THANK YOU to my boy Discovery for giving me the chance to be part of the team. If it wernt for him, then non of it would be possible. Im sure this aint the last time I’ll run into the VA team again and I feel its gonna kickoff pretty big in the UK. I just need to get my game “up to speed” as Mystery would say.

Next stop will have to be Hollywood and the playboy mansion (sorry guys, cant help adding some DHV spikes) HAHAHAHAHA

There’s a lot more to add and I could be here for days but im cutting it short.

Thanks for reading.

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Mystery Awarded “Best PUA in the World” at the PUA Summit

May 27, 2008 by Blitz  
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Program Review for Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop, Kosmo, and Joe D, by Elias, Los Angeles Super Conference, Mar 08

May 9, 2008 by Blitz  
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I went from just getting shut out and hanging in the corner like a dork fly on the wallpaper to being able to talk to girls and have some of them hang onto my arm, smile while being chatty, laughing, or just sometimes want to keep talking for a little while..

No full lipaction but I’m getting girls to show me their more private tattoos (in a restaurant) lean in alot and have many women hang right around where I am, and I like it already….I just need to relax more and get into more practice in conversations, definitely getting them used to kino and me being a touchy-feely-fun guy.

If you talk about a NERRRrrrdddd/dork you would look me up until I was probably 15. It’s not that I was terribly fat or ugly but man social, whoah I was more like clueless.

THE INSTRUCTORS AND GUYS THAT WORK AT VA ARE THE FUCKING MAN DUDE. They will hang out with you, they hang out with each other and answer your questions when they could be at the hotel hanging in a jacuzzi, mackin women, being crazy around LA. They really try to get you comfortable and impact a huge amount of information and stuff into your head and go out of their way to reach out to you when you’re there in the club sweating your balls off thinking holy shit dude I’m going to crash here, they are there to help you through it.

I have a longer version that tells you all they did for me personally and what I got for my money’s worth from the three days. Check it out below this post.

 

So like a lot of guys I started off a month ago just
being kind of intimidated by women pretty easily and
vaguely random girlfriend-shows-up-in-my-life
relationships.

At the end of the bootcamp it’s like huge pieces of a
Jenga jumble of my old belief system just come
crashing down, I mean all the field experiences I had
with Hawaii were really eye opening let alone what the
others presented..and I found myself realizing HOW I
had gotten some girls really interested the few times
I did or they opened me whereas when I was trying the
old job interview boring ass shit they hear all the
time, it won’t.

First off we have Mystery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWnPH-kXeZM

, now there’s a ton about the man that you won’t even
realize at first except that he’s real open and a fun
thinking guy you’d love to be the friend of. I had
trouble keeping up after I was prepped watching
several spaced hours of his teaching footage, paying
careful close attention to what he says in The Game
especially when he’s revealing things to Neil, and how
he really treats you like you’re a full cool-capable
human being who could add to
society if he just knew how and could be made happier
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or if you see how he talks about multiple threading, I
mean when he talks about switching between
different subjects not just in canned material but
other things he’s thought of or situational
openers/gambits that he’s using. He will use the
google earth opener that requires a lot of careful
attention to words and delivery, have a 5 questions
game going be laughing and making a comment off
another girl, I mean when you see him click it’s
insane. Then he’ll just be kinoing and letting them
talk and talk him/themselves up while he goes and bam
starts integrating sets especially with other
wings/buddies who can share in the spoils of good
conversation.

YOU COULD WRITE 200 PAGES ABOUT WHAT HE PRESENTED IN
THAT TIME AND IT WOULD STILL BE A WEAK
IMITATION because so much was asked and there were so
many detailed and subtle parts to it, and even
after all the prep work I did before this seminar I
STILL had 3 pages of self made notes as well as things
I thought of since then based on the material he
presented.
What’s not to like about the guy??

Matador can be best described as a guy who also didn’t
understand why he wasn’t having a huge amount
of fun despite his goals and then totally transformed
himself in and out. When he’s telling everyone to
GET ORGANIZED AND BE THE MAN YOU WANT TO BE and he
kicks the fucking chair away he’s saying
our avatar has to be congruent with the person we plan
and work to be, period. How and why he is getting
as much body language congruency and power is because
he is his own boss, James Matador, period, and
the last three years have given him more than the last
twenty before, and if you saw as many hot girls
hanging around him as I did you won’t have any silly
questions whether "does it really work" "are girls
wanting guys" "can I really get there" YES YOU CAN but
you cannot be a pussy and you have to work for it it
is not a free lunch ladies and gentlemen. And thank
you for the fashion tip the chain didn’t fit my day3
outfit.

Lovedrop, what can you say, he has a real thought out
approach I mean I think if you talk about words having
power he was a guy who you realize gets girls to think
in a different way and he just made things like
kino escalation make a lot more sense even to the
introspective kid that can sometimes come out in any
one of us. And he’s like not sure…then try it or do
what you’re already doing and see if that works…no,
go DO IT. And in terms of concrete snippets, facts,
observations about my own approach I made the most
paper notes during his talk out of anyone else’s and
that tells me that this boy has done his homework.
(The Game isn’t about catching butterflies with a net
it is being the Bright Light that everything gets
attracted to)
(As social animals we can share emotional information
not just numbers or facts..which one is more related
to our species development anyway? HOW DO WOMEN OFTEN
COMMUNICATE?)
(lots of other stuff…)

I thought Kosmo’s speech was really good and I was
pissed off that I didn’t get him so much at first
until I went out and tried it and then thought of what
I had seen the other guys do and WHAT WORKED. GIRLS
RESPOND TO ENERGY NOT ROBOTS ACTING POSSESSIVE OR
WEIRD. They just like us (or some of us!!!@@) WANT
TO HAVE FUN. They are not wired on what time did you
file that report oh yeah we have a meeting at 11:35
and there were 5 pens there and I had 10 emails from
management pile up and SHUT UP you need to be kind of
like a kid you know you love a girl that cracks you up
or forces you out of your head too so BE THAT GUY life
is supposed to be fun before people make it so
complicated and self centered bring out some joy share
it with girls too because they’re people not just your
friends. They happen to have a pussy and may decide to
gladly share it with a funny, fresh, cool guy who
doesn’t need them and enjoys meeting people and adding
value!@

Wow dude Discovery was an amazing dude too he had two
separate presentations and I almost felt like a bozo
when I complimented him on his badass outfits because
he like stood back and was thinking wow is that all
this guy took away from me talking he must be not
listening to a goddamn thing I’m saying.
He had scary good verbal and kino/body language
openers just basically had girls doing stuff you’d
kind of think was porno movie except he’s really just
a fiesty English/Irish sounding fella who does not
give a shit he knows he’s the baddest ass freak that
girl’s ever going to talk to and THEY RESPOND TO HIM
THAT WAY.
When he talked about the color/trait presentation and
observing others I know he was talking about how to go
about making fast decisions based on BL and the kinds
of routines/way you interact with a mixed set. There
were three separate guys who witnessed some approaches
and although his energy is also really attention
getting he, like the rest of VA, wants everyone to do
well and has done amazingly few approaches considering
his aggressive style and success rate but the cat is
smooth, bro. And you feel it you know when he moves
through the crowd they will notice Him and not the
other way around. Him and Kosmo made me realize that
yes it is really possible to be fun and forceful in
different ways yet be totally sincere and have a great
time.

I was also glad to be able to meet Joe D. who totally
is the fun talkative guy I AM WITH MY FRIENDS and such
a great warm character who was open and awesome, he
totally hung with the VA crew and would talk to any of
the students/people who came up and wanted to ask
questions or even just be with us, and he WASN’T EVEN
OFFICIALLY PRESENTING his ass could’ve been home
talking to girls kicking back in the jacuzzi or
something
man.

and last but not least….HAWAII

OMG dude that kid has mad respect from me he took us
Chewie Everett and myself out to several different
venues through seating changes and time changes and
targets/parties switching locations and all throughout
demoing for us correcting us helping us get our sets
in asking "What’s going on" "Where are you getting
stuck" "DO THIS OPENER PLEASE follow up with this get
in there man make it happen" "Here bro I’ll go in no
reason to be worried guys just watch
close" then afterwards "Did you see how it hooked how
the bodylanguage was different SAME WORDS" and all
this kinda stuff it really helped wow I realized how
it was possible and I felt like something really
changed like I *could* do this if six months ago he
was not the badass asian kid who was cooler than
anyone in there and just had NO FEAR you could also
tell the man was congruent inside and out he wasn’t
taking shit from a girl and if she was being boring or
uncompliant, NEXT!@ Because he knew how to be playful
and fun and GET IN THERE……I had gotten a call one
night after I went home for going out again but I
think my phone was off then I was like AHHHHHHHHH I
would so have paid $$$ to get that night back with my
bro Hawaii man he really cared about the three of us
to get experience in the field. GLAD WE GOT THAT
SECOND COOL PIC BRO hehe nice. I thought to myself
drunk one evening yo I wonder if that kid played
Starcraft ever I’d so be a good wing to him but I
guess I’ll just buy him a drink sometime once I get
field experience and see the cool cats at VA man. Dude
send my warm happy cool fuzzies for the other bros
that were out there and could’ve done other shit WISH
I HAD MORE TIME AND WAS LESS STRESSED BEING OUT IN THE
NIGHT enjoyed all the conversation and hanging out
with those cats too man.

All these guys really cared. They stayed late, they
stayed for a lot of each other’s stuff, they tried to
joke around and help us through what was or wants to
be a great transitional period for us guys out there,
and I felt there was a certain real effort being taken
to get to everyone they could. Every VA guy in that
room even some of the other kids Jorg and Freddy and
several more that were hanging out with students and
people helping each other too.

I’m also happy got some numbers of dudes in the
northeast and we’re making it happen now! THANK YOU
ALL Viva Los Angeles!!@

- Mike

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Program Review for Mystery and Matador, by slick786, Dallas Bootcamp, May 08

May 8, 2008 by Blitz  
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This has been my second bootcamp with Mystery. I especially liked this one because it was a small group of 7 or 8 and I got alot of personal attention from both Mystery and Matador. My sticking point has been mostly in comfort building, and Mystery really gave some good advice on story telling and comfort routines. He also taught us a couple magic tricks on the side. By the third night, I could easily open girls, and carried on conversation with them for 45min inside a loud club. Mystery also helped me form my Identity which was a sticking point for me. All in all it opened my eyes, I really enjoyed it, and would recommend it to anyone man as a life changing event …

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Program Review for Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop, Kosmo, and Joe D, by JaCaz, Los Angeles Super Conference, Mar 08

April 11, 2008 by Blitz  
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Hey guys,

Let me begin by saying that I definitely enjoyed myself during the weekend of the LA Super Conference. And in the end, I’m glad I did it, for many reasons - meeting other PUA-hopefuls, meeting Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop, Discovery et al and generally getting some advice from those guys.

It’s also worth mentioning that I own the Mind of Mystery DVD course and had reviewed it thoroughly before the course, so the CONCEPTS of Mystery-style pickup were familiar to me. It was merely the PRACTICE and PERSONAL GUIDANCE that comes with hands-on instruction that was lacking for me.

This is the PRIMARY reason I signed on for the course.

The SECONDARY (but nearly equally important) reason I’d signed on for the course was the in-field DEMONSTRATIONS. Demonstrations that I somewhat expected to marvel at, but more so, expected to LEARN FROM, as I tend to learn the most through observation, particularly with something that cannot be taught through a book, something as finely tuned as pick-up.

Highly valuable stuff for anyone who’s never seen the art of pick-up live, and had a chance to wrap their brains around it (like me). And based on all the reviews I’d read of previous conferences, laden with comments on how amazing it was to watch the instructors in action in the field and how supportive and useful it was to be instructed through sets by them, I’d come to expect that I would literally be witnessing pick-up in action, AND ALSO, be well in the hands of doting instructors.

So, naturally, I signed on for the Mystery level of instruction - the most expensive level - because, to put it bluntly, I wasn’t f%&king around, and wanted personal guidance from the best - namely Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop et al.

Also worthy of note, I greatly appreciate and somewhat require VISUAL demonstration following an explanation. For me, it just cements a concept perfectly.

SO, CUTTING RIGHT TO THE CHASE for those who will not read a lengthy review, my overall grade for the conference was, disappointingly, a B-minus.

Unfortunately, in the end, I did not feel like I got my money’s worth based on my reasons and expectations for going. It was worth some majority portion of what I paid, but definitely not the full amount.

$3000-plus for a pick-up conference is a LOT of money for me (very hard-earned money!). I’m a very big value-for-dollar kind of guy and also a highly organized type of brain, so I was constantly evaluating my experience based on whether I thought I was getting more for my money than I already had gotten from the disks, books and generally off the Internet.

There were a lot of ways that the instructors and organizers could have delivered more value in this conference. Here’s where the conference experience went great and where it fell short:

DAY ZERO (the very day before day 1)
1) I received the seemingly important prep packet via email. Twenty-two pages of helpful notes, info and some space to evaluate yourself and where you are now with pick-up. Had absolutely NO time to read this before the beginning of the conference. Would have been great if it were sent to me a week before, because I would have been able to prepare and practice some of the material for use in the field. There’s really very little time to do this once the conference is underway, especially if you’re living away from the hotel.

DAY ONE
1) We start the conference 2 hours later than originally planned, which is worrisome for me, because I know that that either means we’re going to go late, making it difficult to get to the clubs in time for all the good stuff, OR it means that we’re going to be MISSING OUT on 2 hours worth of previously promised, valuable material. Somehow, I don’t think we missed any more material, but we definitely DID go late. More on that later.

2) Thankfully, the prep packet is passed out for everyone to read then and there. There is also a section where you’re supposed to fill out your goals and where you are with pick-up at the moment. We were told that this is for the instructors to get a sense of who you are and where you stand at the moment. This notion got me very excited, as in "WOW! We’re going to get such personal attention that instructors will literally take us under their wings and work with us at our level.

We were never asked to hand these in. It did not happen. I soon realized that it would have been logistically impossible, considering how many people were attending the conference. Not possible to read all of our stories. Would have been nice to approach it from that direction though, especially for someone like me, who was hoping for some personal attention.

3) AWESOME!! Mystery shows up and introduces himself to everyone, and you immediately feel like you’re in good hands. He speaks about pick up and tells stories and performs routines for about 3 or more hours, which was cool. He hangs around during breaks and answers questions directly, which is also cool and helpful. Lovedrop previews the new Revelation approach to pick-up for a little bit, and that’s somewhat intriguing. Kosmo talks about approaching/opening, and does a little bit of routine performing for us, and generally tries to put us into a relaxed and fun frame of mind about the whole process - and that’s cool.

4) We are encouraged to get up and form groups and practice our openers. Without much more guidance than that, and with none of us really knowing each other, we just sort of meander into these disorganized groups and trepidly practice opening each other. Here’s where it would have been great for the instructors to take control, actually PUT us into groups, and then GUIDE our practice. One instructor per group wouldn’t be difficult to implement. Instead, instructors casually wandered from group to group, and I think Discovery stopped by to give us some general tips based off of one guy’s approach.

5) WHAT WOULD HAVE MADE ALL OF THIS BETTER is if the guys spent more time demonstrating any of these concepts right there, IN CLASS. When you think about it, ALL of the concepts are fairly simple. The nine phases (A1, A2, A3, etc.) and the new model of the Flame, the Ghost and so on, is fairly simple to get your mind around. It’s the BEHAVIOR, the MANNERISMS, and just GETTING IT INTO YOUR BODY that’s the hard part! One thing that always helps me with stuff like this is when I can actually SEE a demonstration of someone skilled doing it.

THUS, what would really help the classes improve in the future is if they actually had female models on hand, brought them up front in class, and had the pick-up artist just demonstrate things like BODY LANGUAGE, NON-VERBAL TIME CONSTRAINTS, APPROACHING and OPENING, KINO ESCALATION and so on and so on. All of this stuff goes down MUCH easier when you can SEE IT. THIS COMMENT, I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH!!! It is one simple thing that would have raised my rating of the conference from a B-minus to say, a B-plus.

6) After that, Matador gives a session on the "Way of Being" which really just pushes pick-up to the next level, where you literally BECOME the type of person who naturally attracts women. It’s a Jedi approach to pick-up, which I thoroughly look forward to mastering - over time.

In spite of protests from Freddy, Matador goes over the scheduled wrap time until about 8:30pm (granted, delivering good and useful info all the way). However, the students then have to do the mad dash from class, to dinner, to home to shower and change, and then into Hollywood to the club for the night. Our expected arrival time was supposed to be 10pm, 10:30pm at the latest to avoid paying a cover. I had to go back to my apartment in Inglewood, and at my fastest, I made it to the club at 11:10. Needless to say, I was a little frantic. Hardly the state you want to be in for your first foray into practicing pick-up for the first time.

Beginning and ending the day on time may not seem like a big deal, but when you consider that a huge part of getting the most from this material is to practice it in the field AND get feedback in the field, you realize that it’s important to give every student the absolute most amount of time in the field as possible. Not to mention, just the general logistics of trying to get into a club in Hollywood gets trickier and trickier (and more expensive) as it gets later.

Fortunately, I was able to convince the guy at the door not to make me wait in line or charge me. This night was my night with Mystery and Lovedrop. And naturally, I was really concerned that I’d missed seeing the demonstrations of Mystery and/or Lovedrop do their thing. I arrived to find that the place was relatively empty, and Lovedrop was chatting with another student, so I joined them.

7) I got to chat with Lovedrop and ask him tons of questions, let him know where I stood with pick-up and just basically tell him how nervous I was. Great guy, Lovedrop. He spent a good amount of time explaining concepts to me demonstrating kino all the while he’s talking to me and generally helping me set reasonable goals for the evening. Just what I needed to calm down and get focused. THANKS LOVEDROP!!!

At one point early in the evening, I noticed Mystery chilling in the corner of a private room set up for us with his girlfriend. I remember asking one of the students at one point if I had missed the demonstrations of pick-up from these guys, and he told me that there weren’t really going to be any demonstrations. In fact, throughout the evening, I personally didn’t see Lovedrop or Mystery or Discovery do any pickups (though I heard Discovery worked some magic on some chick in the bathroom). I did not understand why there would be no demos, especially since that was a HUGE reason I’d even taken the course - to see pick-up in action. Again, it’s something that could be thought of as overrated, but hey, seeing is believing, and again, I personally LEARN VERY WELL from observing others.

I’d heard a couple of days later that Mystery and Lovedrop and some of the guys generally weren’t going to perform pick up this night because of having their girlfriends around. To be fair, it’s only a rumor, however, that, ummm…..really PISSED ME THE F&%K OFF. There’s really no other way to say it.

My philosophy is, if you’re teaching a (very expensive!) conference on pick-up, and your girlfriend gets in the way of you demonstrating for your PAYING STUDENTS, then LEAVE YOUR F*%KING GIRLFRIEND AT HOME!!! Matador is the ONLY one who actually addressed this in class, and assured us that his having a girlfriend would not stop him from sarging. I later heard that Matador did some amazing pick-up stuff, but I didn’t go out with the Matador group the first night.

Seriously, guys this is a no-brainer. Otherwise, you’re not delivering on the promise, and that just generally wreaks of LAZINESS and COMPLACENCY. THIS IS, AFTER ALL YOUR JOB. Nuff said on that.

8) All in all, the night went off pretty well. Again, Lovedrop was a HUGE help, answering ALL of my questions, talking me through concepts all night, and pushing me into the occasional set for practice. THANKS AGAIN LOVEDROP!!!

I spent a good 5 minutes chatting with Mystery and getting some personal guidance from him from a general viewpoint. That was also very helpful. THANKS MYSTERY!!

I think I opened a good 7 or 8 sets, with maybe 2 or 3 of them hooking. For me, it was a good night.

DAY TWO
1) Keeping this section much shorter, the day began with a presentation from Discovery on Profiling. Fantastic. The guy is crazy organized, very articulate and explains his concepts very clearly. He got us up and interacting within the context of the presentation which helped cement the concepts even further. It was a great way to begin the day - and I felt like I was really learning something NEW that I could eventually use in the field. THANKS DISCOVERY!!! Discovery also let us know that he’d started in the game literally only 5 months ago, and now he’s pretty damned good at it. Very encouraging to think that with "perfect practice" anyone can get good at this stuff rather quickly.

2) Lovedrop did a great session on Kino Escalation. And thankfully, at certain points for crucial concepts, he called his girlfriend up to demonstrate on her. It’s just great to see this stuff demonstrated because you really cannot get the concept in its fulness until you see it VISUALLY. Lovedrop covered all aspects of being acceptably touchy feely without coming off as creepy. From handholding, to getting her arms around you to hair pulling to kiss closes. It’s amazing what you can get away with when you do it right. And there were some pretty cool tricks in there that one of the students used to get a kiss close that night.

3) Lovedrop continued with a session on the Revelation concept. Pretty interesting way to condense and re-package the original Mystery Method. Again, the concepts are largely pretty simple, but it’s getting the BEHAVIOR into your skin like second nature that’s the challenge. It’s all in the practice. I would put this into the same category as the Matador "way of being" session, in that it gets a little Jedi for those of us just learning to wield a light-saber (okay, pardon the Star Wars references!).

4) Mystery was scheduled to talk that day, but was rescheduled for the next day. Matador picked up the slack, and talked about the game in general and conveying a perception of oneself. Really useful, deep game stuff. Again, the guy is, well, Jedi so his discussions tend to get pretty advanced. Still he did a fairly good job of bridging the gap from basic game to the advanced stuff conceptually.

5) Once again, we went a bit later than the scheduled wrap time. Same results. I got to the club much later than I’d hoped and after getting the usual brush-off by the security at the door, I actually thought that they weren’t going to let me in this time. This was my night to roll with Matador, Kosmo and Joe D. Fortunately, Matador showed up just moments after me with his friends, and I was able to go in with them.

Kosmo and Joe D were awesome, each with their own kind of crazy, inclusive, can-do kind of energy. And they were determined to shove us into sets this night. Great, but I was still convinced that I needed to see these guys do it first.

Kosmo ran me into several sets at first, encouraging me to just blow them out to get over the fear of doing it perfectly. I opened a good number of sets this way, and it’s kind of cool the way your brain shuts off when you just plow from set to set. THANKS KOSMO!!! After awhile though, I needed a break, I couldn’t keep up!

Joe D, to put it simply, was my kind of PUA - old school, smooth, fun, and with a great level of energy. With his girlfriend on his arm, he simply went into sets, opened, demonstrated value, locked-in, kino-escalated, etc. It was textbook stuff, demonstrated successfully, right there in there in the field. POW! A great learning experience, especially since I got to watch things like his body language, hear his delivery, etc. THANKS JOE D!!!!

More of this type of demonstration and from other instructors (especially on the first night) would have pushed my overall grade for the bootcamp up to an A-minus.

Matador was working the rock star magic, pulling girl after girl and sending them back to our table. At one point, he grabbed me and put no fewer than THREE girls on my arm. He told me to take them somewhere (I couldn’t really hear him - this club was way loud), so I literally sort of walked them around for a minute, then pawned them off to another set. Admittedly, I was on sensory overload by then and couldn’t think straight.

All in all, an okay night.

DAY THREE
1) Ross Jeffries, the grandfather (?) of the PUA community spoke on seduction routines that could be used in the Comfort phase of the model. Great, great stuff from an old-old-school master. Don’t think it would be useful in the club setting though - it’s just too loud for that. However, anytime you’re sarging a woman at your local Border’s or Starbucks, it should work great. He was a great speaker and a great addition to the bootcamp.

And guess what else he did that was super helpful? He called up a woman and he DEMONSTRATED ON HER in front of the class. Priceless. THANKS ROSS!!!

2) Discovery followed up with a session on delivery. Even he admitted that this might have been more useful on Day One. I agreed.

Very good presentation, again. Discovery really breaks it down and makes it easily digestable. He demonstrates the concepts vocally too, complete with the proper intonation and rhythm, which is helpful.

3) Mystery wrapped up the day with a discussion on microcalibration and taking some Q&A from the group. Again, always insightful to hear what Mystery has to say on sticking points, how to handle various situations that come up, etc. He made special mention of having a stacked routine ready to go and creating cheat sheets for use in the field, two things I plan to absolutely implement going forward.

We broke out into a session where we were to come up with some DHV stories and practice them with each other, and the day just generally ended.

All in all, a good day.

It seemed like some of the instructors were planning to go out again that night, but I was exhausted, so I passed. It turned out to be much to my misfortune, as I found out later, because THAT night, Mystery and the other guys DID actually demonstrate some game - apparently his girlfriend wasn’t there that night.

DAY FOUR (The Breakout Sessions)
I was going to go to the Strippers and Hired Guns session with Mystery, but he was seriously sick so he couldn’t do it. Instead, Matador stepped up and spoke on any and every topic that we could think of and he laid out all of his PUA knowledge as per our requests. He did this until 4am. Dedicated. Devoted. THANKS MATADOR!!!!

So overall, again, I gave the bootcamp a b-minus, largely because of the lack of visually aided demos from the instructors both in-class and in-field, followed by the less-than-desired amount of personal guidance. I say less than desired, because I DID get discussion of the concepts in field and loads of encouragement, but not a lot of feedback from set to set on how to improve.

 

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Program Review for Matador, Hawaii, and Knack, by sql, Miami Bootcamp, Mar 08

April 6, 2008 by Blitz  
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I took the one with Matador and Hawaii (also with Knack for night clubs). It was a lot of fun and a sequence of eye opening events for me. It cleared some blocks in my head and opened myself to some possibilities [I say some because of a reason, that I'll get into that later ]

If any of my friends from that boot camp are reading this, How are you doing guys? This is Vish.

Let me start with this. All the great and mind blowing things that you’ve read about Matador, they are all true. He is AMAZING. He is like an ANIMAL (..in a good way). He knows how to talk to the human animal inside the girls body and get her hooked. Watching him open sets and make out with in seconds is unbelievable. It can only be described as ‘Plowing thru’ (…into the girls mind and escalate physically). I felt, Matador truly wants to help men to get better in their life, not just pick up but to become your best self overall. He talks in depth about it in the class room session.

Hawaii is cool. I think I would have gained more from the boot camp had I spent more time with Hawaii, but in the mix of things I just forgot to do that (…my bad). I say this because, Matador is like a ‘Rocket Scientist of Pick up‘ and I am still struggling to learn basic ‘Newtons Laws of motion‘. So there is a huge gap between what I know to be true and what is happening in Matador’s sets. I was amazed to see what could be done, if done RIGHT, in a club. Watching Matador, I see where I want to be, but my problem right now is ‘How to take the initial steps‘. Hawaii made some good suggestions for me to work on.

Knack is great with ‘Comfort building’. He made some great comments that helped me learn new things about myself and what style of approach might be the best for me.

We had a unique combination of students. A Doctor, an Engineer, a student, professional photographer, a Marine, Pro-Poker/Boxing champion, a Musician….. it was great.

All this sounds good and unbelievable. But the bottom line for me is what did I learn from the boot camp?. How soon am I going to get good at this? I am a real AFC and I hate it. I’ve had some luck picking up women during the day, but its no where near where I want to be. Even after taking the boot camp one thing I still can’t get over is Approach Anxiety (AA). This is one of the main reasons why I took a boot camp. And after the boot camp, I still don’t see much change in my Approach Anxiety levels. I understand the theory behind it and all that, but for some reason I am not able to slice and dice it logically to reduce its effect on me.

I am not unhappy about talking the boot camp. Actually I am glad I did it. But I am unhappy about not being able to internalize the concepts into my head and open sets. I know Mystery has this "No man left behind policy" which is great, if possible, I’d like to take another night-club session with Mystery to help me over come my fears in the field. (….please give me one free session Mystery). I can’t say I am unhappy from the boot camp, I am just not as satisfied as I expected to be.

Comming to infield report:

Night 1: I was a bit late to the night club the first night, and by the time I got there Matador & Hawaii already did some demos for the students. I saw students opening sets and kind of got an understanding of how to approach and talk. Later, I saw Matador opening some sets. What really blew my mind was when Matador was giving me instructions while I was in the set. Giving me the exact lines to say to the girl, when she is standing right there. AFC that I am, I could not open many sets that night. Matador noticed that, and just to get me started he brought a girl over and gave me in-set training. I still can’t believe that this girl played along. I skipped A1, A2 and A3 and went right to C1. It was fun. We chatted for a good 25 mins and all this time her friends were talking our pictures. I as so nervous I didn’t do any kino on her. After a few gambits, I realized I as falling into friend-zone, so exited myself with Styles ‘Pleasure meeting you’ routine.

Later I opened a 2-set. I used the ‘dying my hair blond’ routine. It worked well and the girls were laughing and giggling. Though it was going well, I got nervous as I couldn’t believe its working. In the mix of all that, I forgot FTC, Neg and A3… and tried to go into C1 and that’s where it ended.

The same night, we went to a different night club, its more like a dance club with loud music. The first one was more like a out-door club with pool in the middle. Matador gave us like 10 demos with in a span of 1 hour. He was working multiple sets at the same time, making out with one girl and dancing a with a different one a second later…. and so on. It was like as if, they were waiting for their turn with Matador . One girl was so blown away…. the guy she was with, I guess her boyfriend, came over and said to one of the students ‘Who is this guy? The girl is going crazy’ (..something like that).

The saddest part, I didn’t open any sets here.

Night 2: Matador again took us to two different clubs. This is when I realized I need to watch how Hawaii opens and does kino, but I forgot. I opened 2.5 sets and none of them went well. (I say 2.5 sets because, one set walked away as I was opening them…) So in short it was a disaster for me. I ran out of things to say after opening a set….may be something like a micro-phone in my ear, like in the VH1-show, might help me open sets better. Thought I am learning from the instructors I am not able to transform that knowledge and put it into play for me.

Keep up the good work guys, you are amazing…..

Hope to hear from Mystery (…fingers crossed),
_Vish

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Program Review for Venusian Arts, by shades, Los Angeles Bootcamp, Apr 08

April 4, 2008 by Blitz  
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I’m a changed man after going to the l.a. bootcamp last weekend. I feel so much better about life, and I have a new attitude about life. Every man should attend at least one bootcamp in their life time. It’s an eye opener. I would like to give a shout out to everyone and the instructors that were apart of this great moment.

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Program Review for Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop, and Kosmo, by Jewels, Los Angeles Super Conference, Apr 08

April 4, 2008 by Blitz  
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Hey folks…

I attended the conference portion of the recent Venusian Arts Superconference in Los Angeles on March 28-30th, and I thought I’d share my thoughts about it. I didn’t pay for the "in-field training" portion of the program, so if you’re only interested in that, this review won’t be helpful to you. But if you want to hear what the seminars are all about, here’s your chance. And since I have a lot to tell and can’t write it all in one sitting, I’m going to break these reviews up by day.

Before I begin, let me say that overall I thought the conference was great, and any complaints or issues I bring up in these reviews shouldn’t take away from that fact. I most definitely felt I got way more than my money’s worth and I would highly recommend the conference for anyone looking to learn basic to intermediate PUA skills. But there are definitely a few items that could be improved by Venusian Arts the next time around. So I’ll give the unvarnished truth, the good and the bad, but as a whole I thought it was great and I’d grade the event somewhere between a B+ and an A-.

Pre-Conference
First off, I thought Venusian did a good job staying in communication with us and sending information. Attendees were e-mailed a 22-page pre-conference handout to read that contained a lot of helpful seminar exercises and PUA information, both old and new. My only complaint was that the handout didn’t land in my e-mail box until the night before the conference, leaving practically no time to do anything but quickly glance it over. I originally thought this was because I had registered for the conference very late, but I later heard from other attendees that everyone had gotten the handout at the last minute, some not until that very morning. I even noticed a number of people hastily reading the handout for the first time while sitting in the registration area on the first day. A shame we didn’t have the time to really study the info before we arrived, but good stuff nonetheless.

Day One
The day started a bit late but well within reason considering it was the first day. Upon arrival we received an agenda detailing the schedule for all three days, which was great except when it ended up mysteriously changing along the way. (More on that in day two). But the very first speaker up on the agenda was Mystery, and sure enough, there he was, standing before us just as promised.

Now I’ve never met Mystery, but I’ve heard a lot about him. I’ve listened to his teleconferences. I’ve seen him on his show. I’ve read about him in "The Game." He’s got a lot of hype surrounding him, with some people calling him the best PUA on the planet. Well, I have to tell you, the guy lives up to it. He knows his shit and he’s excellent at explaining it. And the dude is a great speaker. Maybe it was because I was sitting in the front row, but he made it seem like he was speaking directly to me, as if we were just two guys talking. He’s conversational, often diving off on tangents but always managing to get where he’s going. He spoke for almost three hours straight on the first day, taking only one or two short breaks along the way. And during the breaks, he always ended up staying in the room anyway, answering personal questions from people and giving advice. I found him to be extremely approachable and got the impression he honestly wanted to help everyone out. Venusian Arts has a number of great instructors, but given Mystery’s reputation, you would expect him to be the best part of the conference. And he is.

Next up was Kosmo. Let me say that Kosmo has a terrific energy and is incredibly enthusiastic. However, I found this part of the day somewhat disorganized. He started by talking about opening for 15-20 minutes, which was fine. But then he broke everyone up into groups and instructed us to practice our openers on each other. The first problem with this plan was that it wasn’t carried out particularly well - everyone just sort of broke into disorganized groups of 5 or 6, then eventually wandered into groups of 2 and 3. Problem #2 was that, for a number of us, this was the first day of our first PUA instruction and since the handout had arrived less than 12 hours before, we hadn’t even read the openers yet, let alone memorized or practiced them. The third problem was that instead of moving quickly from group to group listening to openers and making corrections, Kosmo kept getting pulled into different topics by people asking him unrelated questions. I know he really wants to help and he’s got a bunch of great ideas and advice, but if we’re practicing openers, let’s practice openers.

Seems like the better way to handle this section of the seminar would have been for Kosmo to ask volunteers to come up in front of the room, demonstrate their openers to the group, then analyze what could be improved. I suspect watching three or four of these would have been much more helpful than what happened.

Ending the day was Matador talking about what he calls the "Way of Being." Matador is another guy who’s genuinely excited about sharing his information, which is pretty deep inner game stuff. I thought he was good, but I would argue that this material would have been better placed on day two (I also thought Matador himself was better on day two - more on that again in the next post). It’s pretty advanced stuff, much more than just canned routines and game theory - really about learning to live your life - and I certainly think it’s important to be shared with the group. But I think it would have been better to get into some of the new "Revelations" theories at this point, given that’s what this superconference is supposed to be about, and holding off on the Matador stuff until the next day. Swap this seminar with the "Revelations" one on day two and your flow is much smoother overall.

The day ended around 8:30pm after about six hours and those of us who weren’t going to the clubs that night were done. One excellent thing Venusian Arts did which I want to mention was that on every night of the conference, they had a club recommendation for those of us who had paid for conference-level only and weren’t going out with one of the instructors. We could go to that club on our own or as a group to practice the day’s material and get in without waiting in a huge line for hours. That was a very nice touch and well thought out. I didn’t take them up on it the first night as I had to work, but I did on night two, which I’ll share more about tomorrow.

 

Hey all…

Really sorry that this Day 2 review of the March Los Angeles Superconference took so much longer for me to put up than I planned. As sometimes happens, life got in the way and I haven’t had a free moment to write about my experience, especially given that I want to be thorough about it. But I had originally jotted down extensive notes during the conference, so between those and my personal recollections, hopefully my memories will be adequately refreshed.

For those of you who didn’t read my Day 1 review, I’ll state again that overall I thought the conference was great, probably a B+ to an A-, though I didn’t pay for the in-field training so my experiences and reviews are restricted to just the seminars themselves. I’m trying to give the unvarnished truth here so that not only everyone gets a true look at the conference, but also so that perhaps improvements can be made for future students.

Day Two
The day started right on time at noon and the first speaker up was Discovery, who talked extensively about personality profiling. I thought this was the second best presentation of the whole conference (with Mystery’s first day being number one). Not only is Discovery a great speaker, he was fantastically prepared with a full PowerPoint presentation. Plus he clearly knew his topic extremely well. He also lead us through perhaps the most revealing group exercise I’ve ever seen done anywhere, showing us in vivid detail exactly how each of the four types of human personalities tackle and accomplish a task. Finally, he gave each of us a card that was a helpful visual reminder of what he had just taught, and to top it all off, then told us how we could use the card itself as a prop during actual pickup. REALLY excellent work. The only topic he seemed mysterious about is how he’s managed to go from complete newbie to PUA instructor in basically 8 months flat. I personally asked him twice about this and didn’t really get a straight answer, but I’d say it’s safe to assume that some people take to this stuff like a fish to water, and Discovery is one of those people.

The next seminar topic and instructor were very surprising, but not for the right reasons. According to the agenda we were handed when we arrived on Day 1, we were supposed to be hearing from Mystery again at this point on the topic of storytelling. But instead, Lovedrop came up and started taking us through the new Revelation material, which wasn’t supposed to happen until Day 3. No mention of the change at all, nor why it was made, nor where Mystery had disappeared to. Everyone seemed to go with it, and so I did under the impression that an explanation would be forthcoming or perhaps Mystery would be up next. He wasn’t. More on that in a moment.

But in the meantime, Lovedrop did his seminar on Revelation, and I’ll break this into two parts: material and instructor. In my opinion, Revelation is moving in the same direction as much of the PUA community, which is to say relying less on canned routines and exact A1, A2, A3 structures and more on overall concepts and models rooted in inner game theory. I personally think it’s the right direction, but maybe aimed at the more intermediate PUA and not the beginner. This is not in any way to say that the material is difficult to comprehend - it’s very easy to understand. I simply think most beginners (myself included to some degree) find it easier to start with canned routines, and slowly move into their own material based on higher level theories. In other words, Mystery Method is the training wheels, and Revelation is where the training wheels come off. So make sure you’re reading the right book for your level.

Now, the instructor. I have to be honest here, and I’m sorry to be negative about it, but I wasn’t that impressed with Lovedrop as a speaker. He definitely knows his material and he worked hard to impart it to us, but he just didn’t seem as polished and prepared as most of the other speakers. I don’t know how much seminar teaching he’s done, so perhaps he’ll get better with practice. And I’ll also say that at many other seminars, he’d be one of the better speakers. But the bar set by the other instructors at this conference was so high that I thought he stood out as not quite being on the same level as most of them.

We took a break and came back, wondering if we were next going to hear from Mystery on Microcalibration, as per the original agenda sheet. Nope. Lovedrop came back up and started into Physical Escalation, which was scheduled to be after the Mystery seminar, and at this point it was very clear that we were not going to be seeing Mystery today. Word spread that Mystery was under the weather and couldn’t make it, but again, I never heard an official explanation from anyone (until Day 3, which I’ll talk about in my final review posting). I will admit that I was late at the beginning of this day and missed the first 10 minutes, but I asked several attendees if any sort of announcement about Mystery had been made, and nobody I asked remembered hearing one.

Anyway, Lovedrop’s seminar on escalation was much the same as his one of Revelation - good material, okay instructor. Lovedrop did do several physical demonstrations with his girlfriend (no, not those kind of physical demonstrations - get your head out of the gutter) that were great and very revealing. I also really liked his "Rod Stripper Bit" - if you see him or go to a conference with him, ask him to demonstrate it for you. It’s a lot of fun.

Next we had a quick 10 minute preview presentation from Ross Jeffries, who was scheduled for a full two-hour seminar on Day 3. I’ll save my impressions of Ross for my Day 3 review, but for now I’ll simply say that I think Ross Jeffries earns his overall reputation, in both good ways and bad.

The day ended with Matador finishing up his previous day’s discussion of the "Way of Being" and also talking about the Game in general and answering questions. As I mentioned before, I think his "Way of Being" is very good inner game work, but advanced material and definitely better placed here on day 2 (or even at an intermediate-level conference). But by far the best part of this talk was his discussion of the Game and his Q&A, which was absolutely great. One of the students had apparently been present with Matador late the previous night in a hotel room with his girlfriend and four other girls from the club, and the description from the student of what happened was astounding. But then, Matador was standing right there and able to explain EXACTLY why it happened, how he made it happen, and what we needed to do to make it happen ourselves. Really, really terrific stuff, and fantastic to be able to hear the story right from an independent, objective observer who saw it happen less than 24 hours earlier with his own eyes, then having the instructor able to immediately explain the hows and whys. It’s the sort of arrangement you always hope for, but rarely ever get - normally you get either one piece (the telling of the story) or the other (how he did it) but not usually at the same time. If there’s any way to do more of this type of work, I would highly encourage it. In fact, I would say setting aside the first hour of each day to do a "post-mortem" on the previous night’s activities would be an extremely worthwhile use of time. Even for those of us who weren’t there (and maybe especially for those of us who weren’t there), just hearing what happened and then explaining how it happened makes this stuff come to life.

End of the day at about 8pm, and once again, those of us not doing in-field training were given a club recommendation. This time, I and several other guys took them up on it and went to the club, arriving around 10:15pm. We did have trouble waiting in line at the door - the problem wasn’t that we weren’t on "the list," but that we were trying to get 7 single guys into the club all at once. Luckily one of the more entrepreneurial members of the group was able to make a deal to get us in and secure bottle service for us at a reasonable cost when split among all of us. The club itself was pretty good, very large and with a big outdoor section that was quieter and easier to work sets in. We were there until about 3 or 4am, and though I personally discovered I have a lot of practice ahead of me, I thought people were doing reasonably well. And it was great to be there with a solid group of like-minded guys.

That sums up my Day 2 experience, and I’ll get my final day post up as soon as possible, hopefully tomorrow but probably over the weekend when I have more time. Thanks for reading and hope it’s helpful.

 

Hey everyone…

Finally finishing off my review of all three days of the Los Angeles Superconference in March. If you haven’t read my first two reviews covering Days 1 and 2, you may want to check them out first before reading this one. I didn’t do the in-field training so my experiences and reviews are restricted to just the seminars themselves, but overall I thought the conference was great. I’m giving both the good stuff and the bad stuff in these reviews so everyone gets a fair look.

Day Three
The final day began on time and most of the day ended up matching the original agenda given to us on the first day, starting with two hours of Ross Jeffries talking about Speed Seduction and NLP. Ross argued that his techniques fit very well into the c1, c2, c3 "comfort" section of the original Mystery Method, which while being a convenient tie-in reason for him to be at the conference, I think is an argument that does hold some water. Ross is obviously a long time figure in the PUA community and his material is very well established. Having never personally reviewed any of his stuff before this, I thought he had some great techniques and was extremely enthusiastic in teaching them. He also did a couple of language demonstrations with women that were quite impressive.

But I wish Ross would get over the idea that he has to constantly either 1) pitch himself, or 2) be outrageous. Yes, Ross is significantly older than most of the community and certainly than almost all of its teachers. I appreciate that he’s aware of this and not in denial about it. But he doesn’t have to constantly justify himself because of it. One mention of it at the beginning to show that he’s not unironic about himself would be plenty. And being shocking, while occasionally entertaining, is always problematic in the end because if that’s your bit, you’ve always got to work to top yourself and be even more outrageous with the next thing. It’s just not that interesting in the long run and while Ross is Ross and his material is definitely worth the time and energy, I do wish he’d just get a bit more comfortable with himself.

After Ross was another seminar by Discovery, this one about Delivery. If you read my review of Day 2, you already know that I was particularly impressed with Discovery’s personality topic. I also thought this one was great, maybe just a touch less great than the personality one, but I don’t think he could have beaten his first topic and this one was also truly excellent. Again the guy was well prepared and excited about what he was saying. He also again had some great demonstration pieces and exercises that clearly showed the theories he was talking about in action. Venusian would be wise to keep Discovery deeply involved in their conferences.

And then, finally, Mystery returned. (If you read my Day 2 review, you know that Mystery was a no show on Day 2 despite Venusian’s original plan for him to be there.) I saw him at the break and personally talked to him a bit - it turned out he had been truly under the weather the day before and seemed to feel really bad about it. I obviously don’t have any complaints about a guy being sick. It happens to everyone and if you’re feeling like shit, you’re not going to do a decent job teaching anyway. My issue all along was the lack of any communication about why he wasn’t there. So seeing him back was refreshing.

Mystery came up and started talking about building a social network and relationship building. He was just as awesome as he was on Day 1. He also spent time reviewing the performances of those who had been out with him during the previous two nights and going through some of the questions people had for him. And again, at the breaks, he was completely available to anyone who wanted time with him, even taking photos with people and patiently signing books at the end. This led into some end-of-the-day exercises on storytelling, with instructors coming to each table and working on improving individual openers and stories with DHV’s and delivery techniques. All great stuff.

The "official" day ended with a review of where to go from here and a quick discussion of some of the privileges of having attended the conference. Everyone got a complimentary copy of the original "Mystery Method" book and a promise of an e-book copy of the new "Revelation" when it’s complete. I think Venusian’s doing a nice job of trying to keep some follow up going with the VIP lounge in the forum and the opportunity to come back to another conference or bootcamp at a discount. I know some others have complained that they’d like more personalized follow up. While I certainly can’t disagree that that would be nice, I can also understand how it might be difficult to do, both logistically and financially. Perhaps a follow up teleconference or webcast for just conference and bootcamp attendees?

After the conference officially ended, those who could stick around got a bonus session with Matador about Avatar Building, where he explained the difference between true peacocking and just wearing goofy, incongruent stuff. Matador is just incredibly enthusiastic about helping out and even after he finished up and the hotel was making us leave the room, he was still talking and teaching to a group of guys in the hallway who could stick around. Unfortunately I had to go at that point, but I know everyone appreciated it.

Post-Conference
As everyone says, the key to improving your PUA skills is practice. A number of the L.A. contingent that were at the conference put together an e-mail list and have been sarging regularly, and while I haven’t yet had a chance to join them due to my own travel schedule, I’ve been making sure to go out regularly on my own in whatever city I’m in. And yes, I’ve made some major progress, including ending up overnight in a young attractive lady’s bed just this past weekend in New York. I also attended David DeAngelo’s conference a few weeks ago and found that to be a great compliment to the Venusian workshop - very different material but not at all incompatible. My plan right now is to just keeping working at it, making sure to go out as often as possible and improving my material as I go.

I hope these reviews are helpful to those of you thinking about taking a workshop (or maybe even those of you planning the next one). If anyone has any questions, don’t hesitate to leave me a post here on this thread as I check the boards all the time. Or just click on my name and send me a private message here — I check my inbox whenever I’m on the site.

Good luck and happy sarging.

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Program Review for Mystery, Matador, Kosmo, and Joe D, by g-money, Los Angeles Super Conference, Apr 08

April 3, 2008 by Blitz  
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I was part of the Los Angeles Superconference and I gotta tell you guys, that shit was the bomb. From the momment I got there to the momment I left, it was all excitement. To be able to listen to Mystery was the best. His presence is undescribable. Everything that would come out of his mouth was like magic or something. He basically knows everything about being a PUA. Kosmo along with Joe D had this great energy that really helped me to not care about what’s going to happen when I approach a girl. And Matador is the one of the fucken coolest guys I’ve ever known. This guy is the MAN! You will not believe your eyes when you see this guys game. Discovery taught me a lot about how to be with the different types of chicks out there and he also helped me realize what type of person I am. Ross jeffries was hardcore. That guy just knows how to play his game to perfection. He can can get chicks wet in minutes. We all learned so much from these guys. They answered any question we had and they will change your life. Every time I go out now, I run game on any chick I want, all thanks to these guys.

 

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Program Review for Mystery, Matador, and Kosmo, by slick786, Los Angeles Bootcamp, Mar 08

April 3, 2008 by Blitz  
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Hi,

Day1: I am the worst case of all the AFC’s out there, kinda like spoon from the VH1 show. But this revelation bootcamp was insanely amazing. I have never been in field, never danced with a girl, never even kissed a girl. On top of that I have mad approach anxiety. The first night, I meetup with Mystery he shows me hows it done, he says being blown out is no big deal just approach. But, I just stand there looking like a clown. Fortunately, there was a female in a class, who volunteers to be my pivot. I am like with a girl on my arm I cant get blown off. I approach a 3 set, with cologne opener, I open, but they walk away after A1. So, I say thanks and bye to my pivot, turn around and approach a two set dancing. I hit them, with the men vs women lie more opener, the DHV, use a little cocky/funny, I run out of things to say, so I number close, she insists I stay or give her my number, but I hit her with cocky/funny again, and take her number. My first number close tomorrow, she flakes, but atleast it was her real number. I approach a few more set, get blown out in A1/A2.

Day2: Matador and Kosmo. Matador is the man, like superman on steroids. He can simply point to a girl, smile, and be making out with her, faster than a speeding bullet, seriously within a couple seconds. Kosmo is like the most dedicated instructor, even though I felt like I sucked, he made me feel better, and I got the strength to approach. I was late, to the club that night, the bouncer threw me at the back of the line and denied me access for the longest time. I missed half the training. But, Kosmo got me back into energetic mood. I hit C1 for the first time with Kosmo, Kosmo would walk up and say he’s my best friend, and help me lock the set. Matador would come by and whisper in my ear "now isolate". He would take a girl makeout with her, and say to me this is how you do kino. And, thats how I learned how to touch or put an arm around a girl. By the end of the night, I could open girls in the middle of the street, lol.

Day3: VA gave me a makeup session, for missing most of the session the night before. The third night was simply amazing. I hit C1 in every hit. I would run out of words, so then Mystery taught me to take the girl back to introduce to rest of the friends. I brough atleast 4 to 5 girls back to introduce to Mystery and Matador and they showed me how to handle C1 and the Kino. Infact this would be my first night kissing a girl. And, it was difficult because this was a 9 to 9.5, but my wing was making out, so I said, might as well, I turn to her and say (I was talking to her about skydiving), "Are you adventurous?", and went in short kiss, got the number and close. That night I would also get my first chance to dance with a girl, and hit a couple more number closes. Although, I did not save those numbers correctly, I was too busy being shocked at what all I had achieved. One set, I even got a married women all the way til C1. My first AMOG, two guys approaching my set, I befriended them, drove them away and kept talking to their women. Then there is Ross Jefferies, who get a girl to starting talking about sex in 5 minutes. This bootcamp will not only change your pickup, but your life….

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Program Review for Matador and Kosmo by Cowboy, Atlanta Bootcamp, Mar 08

March 26, 2008 by Blitz  
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Ok let me first start out by saying what you are about to read is nothing but truth. I have no reason to write this. I feel compelled to, in hopes that it might benefit someone and lead them to a life changing decision, such as attending a bootcamp thus enriching their life.
My background. I am 34 years old, sucessfull military pilot of ten years, soon to be separting from the military in a few weeks so this bootcamp could not have come at a better time. I am a good looking guy and not satisfied. Sure I got laid on a regular basis by 7’s and 8’s, and a 9 or 10 once a year. So thru the bootcamp I was looking to improve my quality of women and actually learn pickup instead of relying on my looks to get women. I also was attending the bootcamp for the social aspect. I am moving back home to Dallas soon and would like to create a quality, large social cirlcle of friends.
I am going to talk to you about the instructors and thier qualities and what I got out of the camp. I’m not going to go into details about my sets, how many numbers I got, how many chix I kino plowed and kissed, how many chix Matador made out with, blah, blah, blah…. All of that shit happend, if you really want to know pm me.

MATADOR

When I first saw the dude, I was like WTF and who the fuck is this dude?!!
As an instructor this dude is fantastic. I have been an instructor pilot for years and the military sent me to school for it. Didnt ask Matador if he has had any formal training as an instructor. But as I sat there listening to him day after day I kept saying to myself wow this dude really knows how to teach. He is truly passionate about teaching, and concerned that you understand what he is teaching. No question was ever left unanswered. Each day training sessions ran late due to the fact Matador took no shorcuts and was truly concerned that we got his message and understood it. The sunday day training seesion lasted until 2am Monday morning. So if you book a bootcamp with Matador, my advice would be to plan on going home monday, not sunday night.
Yes I learned a ton about pickup from Matador. In the field he was incredible making on the spot corrections often right in front of the girls with them listening. It was amazing. But what I took away from him the most was about life and how to live it in a most rewarding way. The principles and concepts that he lives his life by are rock solid and I will be adapting them to mine. The guy is a warm person with NO ego. Be prepared to work hard and this dude will help you transform your life for the better.

KOSMO

I FUCKIN’ LOVE THIS DUDE!! If Cosmo were a chix I would date him…lol..This guy is 100% energy. He is amazing. I fed off his energy and I loved sarging with him!! He is extremely perceptive, as Matador, and would make on the spot corrections for me in the field that were invaluble. Ok I lied I will tell one infield story. On night two I was with Kosmo. Things were going great. I had number closed one girl, kino plowed another on the dance floor and kissed her. Kosmo grabbed me and took me to another separate dance room of the club. He looks at me and says "I want you to be the host of this party". OH shit! I felt the AA rising inside of me. I told myself FUCK IT and away I went introducing myself to the majority of the room and having a great fucking time as Kosmo watched from a vantage point where he could see me work. Upon returning to Kosmo he gave me instant feedback concering what I was doing right and wrong. He then said, "dude you are the host of this party and these guys next to me were asking about you". At that point in my life I reached a whole new level of confidence. Right after that I went up to the hottest girl on the dance floor picked her up Matador style and spun her around and rolled off. Before the bootcamp I would have never even thought about doing something like that, much less do it. Through Kosmo’s energy,instruction and positive attitude I completley came out of my shell and dropped the massive ego I once had. Kosmo truly cares about your success and here is one more story that proves it. I had been gaming a girl back home that is in a unhappy relationship with limited success so far. Kosmo schooled me on some phone game, I called her left this fucked up hilarious message. She responed in minutes. Another testement to Cosmo’s comittment to students. After the sunday classroom, which ended at 2am Monday, Cosmo and I hung out for another hour or two in my room. Talking about pickup, life, and some other questions I had for him. He also gave me advice one the above metioned girl that I had also been communicating with through myspace. Btw Cosmo, she is coming over tonight.

Bottom line gentlemen. If you want to improve your game and more importantly improve your life. Sign up for a bootcamp. Thanks to these guys and hard work I am going to put in, I WILL be living a rockstar lifestyle.

To all my boys at the bootcamp… HOLLA!
For all you dudes thinking about taking a bootcamp I will leave you with this quote.
"What one has not experienced, one will never understand in print".
Isadora Duncan

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Program Review for Matador and Kosmo, by blade, Atlanta Bootcamp, Feb 08

March 2, 2008 by Blitz  
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Before I get to it let me give you some background on me. I’ve been in the game since August and have been going out fairly consistently. I could lay a new 6 or 7 every two-three weeks if I was going out. I was VERY skeptical before the bootcamp because I was already getting laid way more than anybody else in the Atlanta lair. Hell I laid a new girl the day before the bootcamp. I was taking this bootcamp to get the skills to get hotter girls. Not to mention I’m black and usually go to black clubs and I knew we wouldn’t be able to do that since the general demographic of the bootcampers not to mention I wouldn’t be in charge of the venues.

When I first met Matador he had on this lion fur vest. I was pretty enthusiastic and he met with a nice warm smile. I asked a couple of questions before we got started and he answered everything with great clarity.

The classroom portion was soooooooo much. It involved much more stuff on inner game than I originally thought it would. I’m not usually into inner game stuff but I loved it because it was inner game techniques that I could use to improve my skills and life in general.

I talked to Kosmo during the breaks and his energy is infectious. He is one cool cat he reminds of somebody I’d hang out with.

Matador also had alot to say on outer game tactics and the meaning of outergame tactics. Matador was very laid back, inspirational, cool, and grounded. He really has his shit together and can teach pickup like it’s the back of his hand. NO question I mean NO question was left unanswered.

I learned so much that it’d be impossible to write it in this post.

Infield I got to spend a great deal of time with both Matador and Kosmo. Matador’s game was amazing. He could microcalibrate was so well that he could do very little and still makeout with the girl. When he was in set talking he always owned it without TRYING hard at all. On the second night of the bootcamp there was a point in the night where he merged so many sets that some girls were literally following him around. It was CRAZY he would kiss a girl walk away and she would sit there confused and then follow him trying to get his attention. It was like he was some sort of superhero or something. Alot of the girls in the Atlanta didn’t know who he was so it wasn’t hot game. Also it wasn’t like this at the beginning of the night this was something that happened as the night progressed as he merged set after set.

Around matador my game was pretty much eclipsed lol. Matador was also very helpful in teaching. I found out I wasn’t reading my IoIs. I didn’t know I could isolate so quickly because alot of times I would get attraction very quickly. Matador really helped with isolating a girl into comfort. The comfort objectives have been coming in handy lately with girls I’ve been gaming. Matador told that I should systematically hit the comfort objectives when in comfort and I do that and I can already see the effects.

I got to see a whole lot of Kosmo as well. Kosmos game is more high energy but very effective. I really learned the art of body rocking working with Kosmo. Kosmo would get attraction very quickly and could kiss the girl quickly due to going for a kiss, rolling off, and going for it again. Kosmo was always getting lots of laughter in set.

Before the bootcamp I thought Kosmo wouldn’t be that good due to his performance on the show but boy has he changed. He skills in field are fearless, calibrated, and magnificent. Kosmo taught me a great great great deal about the game. It was good see different styles in action. Matadors game was more smooth. Kosmos game had more humor. Kosmo critiqued me in set alot. There was one set where Kosmo was like "kiss her" so I did and she made out with me.

I learned SO much from watching Kosmo from bodylanguage, attitude, energy, and the way to structure dhv stories. All this would be impossible to explain over the internet. Going out with Kosmo felt like going out with a friend you’ve known for a while.

Matador and Kosmo were VERY VERY VERY giving people. We all have our bad moments so I bet there our times when they fall off but not on this weekend. On this weekend there was no selfish bone in there bodies. After the bootcamp Matador didn’t do like I heard most instructors do which is get the hell on. Matador hung around talked to people, gave advice, and just chilled out like a good friend. He’s a great guy….Kosmos a great guy. These guys are master puas and great teachers as well.

The feedback on identity was crucial. Matador gave the feedback I wanted and thats non-biased, REAL suggestions on what I should convey on my identity. I’m 20 years old and have been able going out due to my fake ID. I do comedy and go to school. Matador said "From now you are no longer a student. You’re a professional comedian who goes to school on the side" I loved and thats what I needed to hear.

Looking at a guy like Matador is proof you can change your life to be whatever you want to be.

Theres so much good stuff that went on during the infield, that was taught that it’d be impossible to write about it all.

Matador + Kosmo=AMAZING.

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Program Review for Mystery, Lovedrop, Joe D, and Knack, by Drive2net, Washington DC Bootcamp, Feb 08

February 22, 2008 by Blitz  
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Just wanted to comment on the DC Bootcamp. I am Married…..I have been interested in the community ever since I read the game a couple of years ago. I went with my Bro who is recently divorced mainly to wing with him and learn how to apply the social dynamics of the community to business. Anyone who thinks they have game has got to go to a bootcamp…..you will learn to push yourself in ways you never knew. I guarantee that if you think you are already well versed on the art of the pickup these guys will blow you away with their knowledge and confidence. Mystery was a machine….great guy, very friendly, passionate, and knows exactly what he is doing. Hawaii was a strong instructor…….knows his stuff and has great confidence in his game. I couldn’t think of a better way to spend my money than to take one of the boot camps. It will give you confidence and the ability to talk to almost anyone even if you aren’t using it to pick up ladies.
Kudos also to Joe D., Knack, Lovedrop, and of course the man himself Mystery

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Program Review for Mystery, Lovedrop, Hawaii, Joe D, and Kerr, by InstantExcitement, Washington DC Bootcamp, Feb 08

February 22, 2008 by Blitz  
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For anyone that hasn’t taken a bootcamp, and feels like they have a pretty decent understanding of what they’re doing…Take a bootcamp!

The DC boot camp was awesome. I had to miss a little since I got sick, but the individual attention and customer satisfaction were amazing. I also learned a ton about what I was doing wrong, and corrected many of my previous problems and misconceptions pretty quickly.

The key to a good bootcamp experience is to know as much as possible before hand. The instructors will help you with whatever your weaknesses are and if you spend some time reading and in the field before, you can work on the more advanced issues.

Hawaii/Lovedrop/Mystery/Kerr/Joe D were the primary instructors at my camp, and they were all awesome. I originally signed up just because Mystery was coming, and while he was awesome to see work in person (and his attention to detail in watching students was incredible) I was really impressed by the other people that worked there. All in all it was a great weekend and a life changing/game changing moment for me.

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Program Review for Matador and Kosmo, by Ameiko, Atlanta Bootcamp, Feb 08

February 21, 2008 by Blitz  
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Here is the not so long awaited review of the Atlanta boot camp of February 15-17, 2008. Before I continue, I wish to note upfront that Matador and Kosmo are incredible not only as PUA’s but also teachers who are kind, patient, and incredibly generous. They gave far more than I expected and went above and beyond what was advertised. They had SO much to give and worked very hard to download all this incredible information into our brains.

The day classes were quite intriguing. As expected, the Venusian Arts model was taken apart and looked into great detail. To have mPUA’s to speak on it and answer questions brought a level of understanding and illumination beyond what mere reading could reveal. Have a question? Ask. Still not sure? Matador and Kosmo will explain with patience and skill. Word of warning though: don’t tell Kosmo that you are going to "try." He doesn’t buy that word. Like Yoda, he believes in do or do not and damn, he’s right.

Quite a bit of the camp was Matador’s "Way of Being." By creating an attractive identity and becoming it, you become not only more attractive to women but a better person overall. It sounds hokey but seeing men like Matador and Kosmo living will make you believe and it was the single most important lesson that I took from this class. Even if you do not become a PUA, this will make your life a better one.

I could go on for a very long time about the day classes but I would just be using the following words over and over again: informative, incredible, deep, and transformative. Why belabor the point? On to the nightclub training!

I had mixed feelings on the nightclub training and I must take a large amount of responsibility upon my own shoulders. I did not want to approach the first night- I just could not do it. Kosmo, again incredibly patient, just threw me into sets with the advice: say something, say anything. Don’t worry about lines- just get past your fear. I opened one set and then another, and then another. Guys, girls, mixed sets, whatever- I didn’t game so much as I just interacted and it was helpful. Indeed, by the end of the night I was having some nice conversations, had significantly lower approach anxiety, and was even approached by other who thought I was the club owner because I walk talking to so many people.

On the downside, I did not personally see the instructors demo that much nor did I work directly with them as often as I should have. I attribute this to either mis-communications between the instructors and the students or that I missed critical information since I left prior to the nightclub training to go home and change for the evening. In the future I would strongly advise that all students be given clearer instructions from the staff to maximize their benefits. An example might be to: "stay with your instructor for the first 15-30 minutes and you will watch them demo." After that, determine how the instructor will spend his time with each student- perhaps he will open three sets with one while the other students open other sets.

Obviously the best-laid plans often go astray, particularly in a crowded nightclub. Also, each student will have different needs and those needs may not be apparent until extensive time in the field. Still, stressing to the students that the instructors are there for you and having some type of plan I think would be beneficial. Above all else, let the students know to not hesitate to approach the VA instructors in the field for help as long as they do not interrupt another student’s set. I was intimidated to do so at first despite their generous nature. I believe Matador realized the first night I had some problems since he asked me later in the hotel with great concern if I had received enough attention. Unfortunately I had a personal crisis at the time unrelated to the boot camp so I was not able to give him the best answer.

Still, I had an overall solid night. Why? Because I went from unable to approach at a nightclub (I had been approaching in day game) to at least *feeling* like a social butterfly. Heck, I was even giving advice to shy men to go out there and talk to a pretty girl!

The second evening classes I took far greater advantage of instructors and it went well in some respects. Unfortunately, the intensity of the camp took its toll and my energy levels flagged quite a bit towards the end so that I stopped approaching for a while.

Another issue I found was that much of the second night’s club was quite loud and many of my sets went awry because I could not communicate as clearly as I would have liked nor could I hear very well. A skilled PUA would overcome this but a beginner will find such a situation more difficult to surmount. I would suggest moving to another venue later in the evening that might be quieter and also keep the place from being sarged out by beginning PUA’s who flub their lines a bit… like me!

The last part I am hesitant to write since I do not want it to reflect poorly on Matador or Kosmo who I think the world of. With greatest care, I would note that in most boot camps it may seem obvious to some club goers that *something* is going on. In Atlanta however, between Kosmo’s fame (he was recognized quite often) and Matador’s sheer presence, quite a few people realized that PUA instruction was occurring. I was approached several times (I was peacocking in a white blazer and black shirt with silver threads) with questions like, "so this is the pick-up show, right? Where are the cameras? How did you get to be on it?" I didn’t mention it much to the instructors and I probably should have. I apologize for this.

Obviously, the people at VA are the best when it comes to instructing PUA’s and have honed their skills and program to high levels. I would humbly suggest that VA consider using a mix of known and not so well known instructors in the future to lower the profile a bit (at least as low as it can be with sensations like Matador, Mystery, and Kosmo).

As this review winds down, one question to answer is: "Am I glad that I took this class?"

Yes.

It was a transformative experience. Am I some master PUA now? Of course not. That takes time. The camp has helped to open the door but I must walk through it and tread that path. I don’t know if I will walk that path- I must let my experiences sink in. I did learn much, partially overcame some deep approach anxiety, ran tight game at times, and accomplished that which before I never thought I could. I also learned another, possibly better way to look at life as I ponder the question: "what do I want to be? What kind of man do I want to become?" I wish I had experience this camp ten years ago. Add in tons of fun and meeting some incredible people and what more could one ask for?

Another question is: "was it worth the 3200 dollar admission price?" That’s a little more difficult to answer and ultimately depends on the individual. I have enough resources to say, "yes." Matador and Kosmo are incredible instructors and just gave *so* much. I can not begrudge them in the least.

A few final comments on the instructors, which was posted earlier:

Matador is one cool and collected cat who has his stuff together. Toss him in the middle of a bad situation (car going over a bridge, house on fire, hostage negotiation) and he just projects that he would not be fazed but would be the rock in that situation. His game is so integrated into his self that he doesn’t even seem to game- he just is. He doesn’t act as a rock star, he IS a rock star.

The solution for oil dependency has been found and it’s Kosmos- he’s a cool dude like Matador but also full of just an incredible amount of energy. Kind, generous, and isn’t fazed by his new celebrity status.

I offered to send Kosmo and Matador first drafts of this review to be fair but they refused in an incredible show of integrity and confidence despite the fact that a bad review could hurt their own livelihood. On Sunday night after class was over, they decided to go out to just have fun and invited the class along. We didn’t go out as students and instructors- just friends and I think it was the best night of the class. That didn’t stop them from giving me advice however and Kosmo swooped as my wingman to help me game a two-set in what was the best set I had ever in my life. Just vibing with him was incredible- I felt like an equal at that moment and together we gamed like we had been doing it for years.

I would advise students interested in boot camp to keep the following in mind:

1. Remember that your instructors are there for you! Don’t be afraid to ask questions, make comments, or ask for help. It’s easy to feel OMG, that’s Matador! OMG, it’s Kosmo! Screw that- they are really open, patient, and giving men. They *want* to help you.

2. Don’t give up! I’ll be honest- the experience was overwhelming and I actually wanted to bail the first day (not come back after changing) since it was so outside of my comfort zone. Remember to have fun and not worry- the instructors are there to train/help- not judge. You are getting to hang and train with two of the best PUA’s in the world and life doesn’t get too much better than that.

3. In case the day camp goes long, have some cool clothes with you. I lost some valuable practice time since I had to drive home to change clothing. Freshening up was nice though.

4. Learn and then practice some basic approaches and routines. While the instructors will give you some good basic ones, you still need to be able to deliver them well. Getting blown out of sets for stumbling over the stories is not fun.

5. As advised by the e-mails you receive prior to the bootcamp, make at least five approaches daily prior to the class to work on approach anxiety. I followed that mostly but I still had initial problems and thus I would advise further to make many of these approaches in night clubs to better prepare yourself.

6. This camp will be transforming if you are open to its ideas and work hard. As VA says though: it is not magic. This camp is about seeing how it all works, getting questions answered, seeing the guys demo, and being forced into the field. Practice, practice, practice will be as key for you as it will be for me.

Overall, it was a great experience and, at the Atlanta lair where Matador was gracious enough to speak to us for a few hours, I spoke up to the room (and with little tension thanks to this class) that it was transformative and a worthy experience. I also thanked Matador later for everything, told him that I think he did more good than he realized, and even hugged him! I don’t hug guys normally but that was how I felt- he was just incredibly giving.

My last conversation with Matador I think will convey my final thoughts on the camp: Should I continue on the path of the PUA, I entertained the possibility of teaching alongside them one day. I love the job I have but this can help other people and I would be honored to pass that on. No more needs to be said.

Be well all and the best to you.

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Program Review for Matador, Hawaii, Joe D, and Knack, by Maverick143, Las Vegas Bootcamp, Dec 07

January 7, 2008 by Blitz  
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I wasn’t convinced that the boot camp was going to help me but went for it on the insistence of my pal and to solve the mystery behind mystery and the pick up artists once and for all.

The first day Matador took us through the Mystery Method, which was kind of repetitive for me because I had read the book. However, I did see pieces of the puzzle coming together and also the practical application of the method and how it was important to follow the steps. Though I knew the steps I ignored following them and I realized how following them could benefit.

The session went on for longer then expected giving us very little time to get ready and hit the club for field training. Kosmo, Joe D, Hawaii, Knack were the ones helping students on a personal level by helping them open. Mean while mystery and matador were demonstrating I would say picking up.

To me Knack and Joe D were providing the personal touch, it was a funny feeling to watch Knack or Joe D observing me in sets from a short distance, but they did correct me on mistakes that I would never have realized that I was making.

Day 2 session: Hawaii gave us a stack for all the phases of attraction which we practiced with him until the man himself Mystery arrived to take a session. Mystery took us through DHV spikes and how it was important to include them in every story or statement that your making. We had a early wrap up as compared to day 1 though it was 8:30 pm far ahead of the scheduled wrap up of 7:00 pm.

The night in the field involved opening more and more sets since we went out to an excellent club. Cheers and thanks to Hawaii and the other guys who were making sure we got VIP access to the clubs on both nights.

Day 3: started with a debrief by everyone on the night out followed by Kino tactics by Joe D and Hawaii, in the mean time they were taking individual feedback on the boot camp and making sure everyone was satisfied. At that particular I did not feel very satisfied, I was of the opinion that the mystery behind mystery has been solved but I something felt incomplete.

Matador walked in by the time Kino was complete. First few sentences from his mouth and I knew that we all were in for a roller coaster ride. Matador was in the zone emitting a passion that I have very rarely seen by a speaker, and Matador did not disappoint suddenly every word that came out of his mouth was like a treasure.

As he took us through treasure of information on what he calls Matador Mayhem, he was being constantly disturbed by his staff to remind him of his next commitment, but I give him a standing ovation for canceling whatever he had and enlightening us with a lot of information on personality matrix, identity, LMR etc. He told one of his instructors he was doing a boot camp and not a time table. All and all it was a boot camp on life style and women.

Me and my friend Nightriders trip to Vegas involved the boot camp and listening to David D CD’s.

I have been decently successful with women and would think I know a lot about them but at the end of the trip especially the “Matador Blitz Mania” and David D I realized what a fool I had been. I felt there is a lot to learn and the process had just begun.

It proved to be a great decision just one regret I wish I had taken it sooner rather than now.

Special thanks to Knack and Joe D.

For the love and respect of the Game.

Cheers

Maverick143

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Program Review for Hawaii, by Byrne, One-on-One Training in Chicago, Jan 08

January 4, 2008 by Blitz  
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I signed up for Hawaii’s 1 on 1 when I went to Vegas for vacation. He made me feel like an old friend right off the bat and took me out with the best insider tips on the Vegas territory. The first night he showed me some great demos by easily and effortlessly opening up set after set all in a fun playful mood. He had to cut sets loose pretty abrubtly because he was training me but within 3-5 minutes he was able to run A1-C1 without a hitch and was making them laugh and grow attraction to him and even kiss him. I’m sure he was on his way to S3 if I wasn’t there. After I had enough demo time, he pushed me into set after set and quickly critiqued me and corrected me on the little subtleties that make or break a good set. He makes a great wing and coach!!! My game truely improved after his help but I’m still searching for my own identity and style to become a master from my perspective. Hawaii sent me on the right path to begin with. I would recommend that you read the materials and study the openers and DHV stories and practice a few hundred sets before doing any 1 on 1 though because I was very new to this and it’s hard to teach someone to ride a bike when you have to spend time bolting on the training wheels before hopping on the seat and pedalling. A 1 on 1 seems more likely to tweak you then train you from scratch but I don’t have approach anxiety to begin with but just learning a new method of pick up since I’m otherwise experienced in this having dated strippers and dating/sleeping with regular girls but not really anything above an 8.

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Program Review for Chicago Superconference, by Suav, Nov 07

November 16, 2007 by Blitz  
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Chicago Super Conference!!!!

INSAINE, MAD, RIDICULOUS!!! Mystery’s Celeb game!!! awsome just awsome!!!!, in field girls would make lines literaly, to make out with Mystery,…He pulled a girl I bounced from another club we were at that night,…Krem Lounge…its cool though!….and Saturday he had a threesome with 2 girls!!! he actually brought one of the girls to the conference,…..So many guest speakers like promised!!!!

Mystery , Matador, Lovedrope, Neil Strauss aka Style,…Kosmo, Joe D (Fat Joe), Brady, Dr. Paul, and all the top VA instructors, Brock, Hawaii, and others!!! it was mad!!, learned a lot did a lot of excersies, regarding DHV and story telling, as well as Kinoing…I learned a lot,..it was awsome for those of you who missed it!, aprox 40 Students total,…it was truly an epic superconference, worth every penny!!!!

I’m still pumped and want to sarge as we speak!!

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Program Review for Matador by subjugate, Dallas Bootcamp, Oct 07

November 14, 2007 by Blitz  
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F Close In 40 Min. Dallas Matador Mayhem

Before you read the review just so you know all of this happened. It’s all true.

Have you ever considered going to a Venusian Arts Bootcamp? Then stop. Stop considering and just do it. Do whatever you have to do to get to one. I experienced Matador Mayhem in Dallas and it’s worth every dime. Others have posted reviews so I hope this isn’t redundant. First let me review the instructors in no particular order:

Matador:

What can I say? You’ve seen him. You’ve heard him. There’s not much I can say except that you need to SEE this stuff in person! It’s absolutely fascinating! Matador Mayhem is for real and you need to see this stuff. Matador is great in field and in the lecture portion as well.

Brock:

Brock is a Master PUA and knows this stuff like the back of his hand. He can answer any questions that you may have and will be completely honest with his opinions relating to the Game. He was very helpful infield and during the lecture portion as well. When Brock was infield his whole demeanor changed. He could run Game on anyone! When Matador wasn’t teaching Brock taught most of the course.

Adam or Swift (?)

I’m not sure of Adam’s handle here but I’m here to tell you that this guy is for real. I can’t complement this guy enough. If I had to only use one word to describe him it would be ENERGY. Adam was also very helpful infield and in the lecture portion. Adam is very meticulous and knows A LOT of PUA stuff. His energy was contagious and it reminded me of Frank TJ Mackey in Magnolia. I see a lot more from him in the future.

Groove:

When you meet Groove he just looks cool and confident. His demeanor matched his avatar. During the lecture portion he talked about identity. He was well qualified to do so!

Elation:

Elation taught comfort during the lecture portion and knew his stuff. I was a bit skeptical at first but I know he’s good. How? His girlfriend was hot!

IN THE FIELD:

The first night was more of a demo night and I opened a few sets. My main goal was to get past my fear of approach. Brock, Adam, and Groove were all very helpful. I also got to see Matador Mayhem up close and personal. Matador was holding court and girls were begging to talk to him! He managed to kiss close quite a few girls and lift them up off the ground with his caveman techniques. But the best was yet to come with Matador on night 2. Brock was running game all over the place, as was Adam. I managed to open a HB9, which was going to be important for the 2nd night. By the end of the night I felt I was over my fear of approach.

2ND NIGHT:

My personal goal on the 2nd evening was to open at least one quality set and get as far as I possibly could. I took one lap around the room sending out IOI pings, when I saw her. A blonde HB9. I broke the 3-second rule. I was waiting for my opportune moment. I kept opening sets, which I was not having much success with, but I didn’t falter. Finally I saw my moment. The angle was just right. I open with a situational opener. I neg. Everything is going great. It’s a two set. I have to win over the friend, but she was rough. She was getting gamed on by some other AFC’s with poor body language. (Body language is important. You already know this though right?) I get into A2. I get into A3. My obstacle is kept busy by the AFC’s but it’s time for a mini bounce. If I can get her to Matador this thing will bust wide open. So I tell HB9, that she should meet my friends. I knew this wasn’t going to be easy. I tell her to come with me and offer her my arm. I tell her friend the same thing but she was like a wild animal. Eventually both comply and I mini bounce both girls! I introduce the HB to Dustin. Then I introduce her to Matador.

“HB9, I would like you to meet Matador.” I say.

Matador rocks in and says, “Hey HB9. This guy is like my right hand man. He’s a cool MF.”

He rocks out. It was the best. I didn’t feel like I DHVed enough. So I start in with some DHV routines. I’m a magician, so it wasn’t that hard. My friend said that she started IOI stacking at this point! I was prepared to stack forward, but the HB9’s wild friend says that their mutual friend has shown up and they have to go. I wasn’t that disappointed. It was the furthest I’ve ever been in the game. I go to sit down and Brock approaches me:

“Hey Subjugate, if you need a wing dude let me know!”

“Hang on Brock. I’m still shaking.”

“Dude. You do realize you ran game on what’s probably the hottest girl in the bar?”

“Hang on Brock. I’m still shaking.”

While I’m gaming Matador is executing what is called “Matador Mayhem”. He managed to kiss 3 girls in a row right next to each other! He literally lined them up and kiss closed them. There was one girl he F CLOSED IN 40 MINUTES. After that there was another girl that wanted an F CLOSE! Amazing stuff. This shit is for real.

The two nights in the field were very helpful to me. All of the PUA’s helped throughout the weekend.

The only complaint I have is that I wished that there were more take home materials. If they could give us the information in a hard copy format that would have been great.

Are you still considering going to a bootcamp? Stop. Just save up and go. Take action in your life. Or just wait and hope something will happen.

Subjugate

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Program Review for Matador by Varden, Dallas Bootcamp, Oct 07

November 8, 2007 by Blitz  
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A little background first. My buddy was always talking about this show the Pick up Artist. I told him it was bullshit until I watched it myself. After watching it I figured that my game needed tightening up since I had been married for over 13 years and recently divorced. So I decided to go to the Dallas Boot Camp.

I live in Houston so I drove about 4 hours the whole time thinking that I had just wasted $4,000 and since I am a banker I know the value of money. Now I feel like I should have been charged so much more. You can’t gain this skill which I now call a super power any other way.

The information that was provided in the course was awesome. Brock, Elations, Groove, and Swift did an excellent job of not only teaching us the material, but actually sharing with us real world experiences and even new openers and DHV Stories. In the classroom they demonstrated all the body language and explained why a female reacts to it the way they do. They also had us do role playing to help us gain confidence. It was kick ass.

Now, the real proof is in the pudding. On The Demo I have to admit I was extremely nervous, but Groove took me and showed me just how easy it is to open a set. After that I opened up more sets in one night then I had in months of going out. I didn’t count, but it exceeded 15 for sure. Probably closer to 20. I opened up this bachorlette party and they all had candy necklaces and wanted me to take a bite. So I played along. Once I had identified my target I started to caveman her and she responded to me positively so I started kissing on her and grabing her ass. I had only been in the set for 2 minutes, maybe. That was amazing.

Although I can’t say enough about the one on one help I got from Brock, Elation, Groove, and Swift, Matador showed me just how far powerful this skill that I believe to be a super power could be if you work the system. Matador has forward and backward merging 3 or 4 sets. He picked up the girls and grabbed their tits. Now most girls would have slapped me or called the cops. Then the most amazing thing happened. He kissed 4 or 5 different girls all from different sets one right after the other. Like an assembly line. The girls didn’t get pissed they just competed more viciously for his attention. Now that is a super power.

Back to the money issue, I am in sales so I have spent thousands of dollars on seminars from Anthony Robbins to Zig Ziglar. None of these gurus have impressed me as much as this bootcamp experience. None of the Gurus demonstate a single theory like Matador and his group did in Dallas. If you want a super power that will last a life time then make the investment.

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Program Review for Matador by Dr. Gonzo, Dallas Bootcamp, Oct 07

November 2, 2007 by Blitz  
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Hey guys,

Just wanted to say that I was truly amazed on how much I didn’t know or even thought of in the world of seduction. The whole weekend was not only a humbling experience but shocking. You have to see it to believe it because I would have never believed the things Matador did unless I saw them with my own eyes. The guy is truly amazing.

A little background on myself; I’m not a virgin, I don’t really have a problem getting laid, I’m in multiple relationships right now and always keep a 3 girl rotation going at all times. Pretty good I thought, WRONG! I got NOTHING on these guys. My main problem and the reason I wanted to attend the workshop was to learn how to approach any woman of my choice. I had horrible approach anxiety. I knew there was a great guy lying inside but I would never pull the trigger and just cold approach an attractive female unless I had a good bit of alcohol in my system or had one of my other friends open the set. I took a leap of faith, anteed up the money and attended the Dallas Boot camp this past weekend with a lot of skepticism.
There were 10 of us in the group and one female which was a nice surprise.

Midknight your review of the instructors was dead on, Matador, Brock, Groove, Elansin, and Swift were all a class act. They all came across as very genuine and really wanting to be there. They were all about getting as much info in us as possible. We went to the mall in day 2 to do a little shopping and even ordered in Pizza for us so we could get more info. I just can’t believe how much my eyes have opened after attending the workshop, I see things in a totally different light now and I am dedicated to becoming a better PUA and better person.

For anyone that is on the fence or is even half way considering it, save all of your pennies, sell something, give blood or do whatever you have to do to attend one of these workshops. You will NOT be disappointed.

Special thanks go out to Swift, Groove & Elansin for taking extra time with me. I really appreciate all you guys did for me and I hope you all keep in touch.

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Program Review for Matador by Vam, Dallas Bootcamp, Oct 07

November 2, 2007 by Blitz  
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If you’re reading this review, you obviously didn’t make it here by mistake. You probably made it here asking yourself one question-does the Venusian Arts have some validity in their training.

Let me wax poetic for just a moment-a vast majority of our opinions come from other people’s opinions up to and including the ones we have about ourselves. This is part of the sociological concept of the definition of the situation: What people believe to be real is real in its consequences. For instance, if someone calls you a loser long enough, you will eventually start to display losing qualities through your actions. If the opposite gender snubs you long enough, you may eventually begin to feel as though something is wrong with you in particular and not necessarily just with the way you handle the situations when they arise.

You reach the edge and have to decide-do I leap or do I stare into the darkness for the remainder of my years and wonder what it would have been like if I had just taken that last crucial step? It would be a falsehood to say it was easy, but all things worth doing in this world seldom are. As my instructor Brock put it, “If we didn’t push you past your limits, it would be called Venusian Arts Vacation and not Venusian Arts Bootcamp.”

Think I’ll keep all the wild and crazy stories about what happened during my bootcamp experience to myself. Besides, a girl’s gotta have some secrets. Let’s just say that I would have regretted not taking the time out of my life to make myself into a better person. Not just in my social interactions with the opposite sex, but throughout the broad spectrum of my life. The guys in my class were accepting (and maybe just a little overprotective, lol). My instructors, approach coaches, and pivots were all wonderful people who mastered something I was sadly lacking in-social interaction. I can’t thank Matador, Brock, Elansin, Groove, Swift, and Jen enough for what they did for me personally. Stephen, you asked me to get in touch with my inner female, so this ending is for you-You are all my knights in shining armor.

BTW, I’m having a little bit of difficulty locating a certain type of button without a pic or the mfg info located on it (quite possibly underneath of the button along the rim) (hopefully). If I can’t find the button, my resources were kind enough to give me some alternate courses of action that I would be happy to pass along at the Superconference.

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Program Review for Matador by trout, Dallas Bootcamp, Oct 07

November 1, 2007 by Blitz  
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My boy Midknight’s review is money, anyone who is considering attending a bootcamp you will regret it if you don’t.
I want to thank all the instructors especially matador and swift who spent so much time making sure I succeed. Thanks guys

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Program Review for Matador by Midknight, Dallas Bootcamp, Oct 07

October 30, 2007 by Blitz  
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I know this review is long, but I wanted to make sure I talked about everything so I broke it up into parts.

Where to start? Let’s start it this way The Dallas boot camp was like taking the red pill. What I perceived as real was all wrong. My reality was shattered and now I am a true believer. I’ll be totally honest and tell you I was skeptical about the whole community and the art of pick up. I first heard about it from the VH1 show and thought this was all bullshit. It’s got to be all fake and fixed scenarios, but I was wrong and seeing it firsthand occur in a random bar with just about anybody converted me. I know a lot of people are upset about the show and saying that it destroyed the community but it sometimes takes something as massive as that for AFC to get access to the community, and let me tell u it has not hurt the game at all. I’ll break this review up for you in pieces so that it’s not just a bunch of excited rambling, and that way I can cover everything about it. I read the material, read the forums, watched the online videos, etc. etc., but none of it compared to the boot camp in what it had to offer. Having people that are so informed about it showing you stuff from their personal experiences that can be found nowhere else is priceless. Each and every single instructor is totally invested in the ideas they are share which make them even more empowering.

The instructors

Matador, Brock, Groove, Elansin, and Swift

I have to thank each and every one of you for your genuine during the entire bootcamp. Not once did I feel like this was a stage for you to brag and show off your skill, but rather I felt like you were there to share with us information that would change our lives. I didn’t get a chance to work one on one with everyone of you but each instructor there brought something unique to the bootcamp. I don’t consider these guys friends but I feel they are more like family.

Matador

What can I say he’s the man? When he enters the room u can just feel the confidence coming off the guy. He had the whole leader of men vibe and everyone in the room couldn’t resist the urge to turn and look at him. He is also a very intelligent individual and all his theories (which are new and changing everyday) are well thought out and not just random ideas he came up with the night before. His kung fu is at a whole different level and inspires you. He’s also a very accessible and will answer any question you got even the crazy ones. We’ll get to his demos later here.

Brock

This guy screams Rockstar. When I first saw him enter the room with his Elvis shades and complete look I got the feeling that this guy was cool and he had knew what was up. As an educator is see a lot of people teaching and I have to say this guy is very good at what he does. Not once did I feel like I was sleepy (Well ok one time, sorry Groove, it was when u were talking about identity, but in my defense I didn’t get back to the hotel till 9:30 that morning and hadn’t gone to sleep yet. You weren’t boring I promise. Thanks Cory lol! And yes the bootcamp is that crazy I promise). He presents the information very clearly, and has a great presenting style that is very professional. You can tell this guy is smart and very articulate.

Groove

I didn’t spend as much time with him which I regret not doing, but he also carried the Rockstar look very well. He also presented very well and knew what he was talking about.

Elansin

This guy had the whole cool guy look, not really Rockstar, but instead that guy u wanted to hang out with at the club. I’ll be honest he did look really young and I thought what is this guy going to offer us, but he made me eat my words the first time he spoke to us. His kung fu is different and he has that personality that makes him very successful at the comfort game. He is also very critical and great at giving advice while you are role-playing in class.

Swift

This was my boy. He took me under his wing and spent a lot of time with me. He’s like Google when it comes to ideas and techniques for the game. He’s got this explosive personality that is very contagious. He did the whole GQ more clean cut pretty boy look which somehow the contrast of that and his personality made him pop even more. He’s great at doing the fun party guy thing when we go out and kinos girls like crazy. I have to give an extra thank you to this guy for his help, and I will not let you down.
For all of you that are skeptical about the quality of the instructors, don’t be most of these guys are college educated or are going to college and they are very intelligent, not just party guys out to make a buck (BUT OMG THEY CAN PARTY!)

The Seminar Portion

I’ll give the pros and the cons about what we did during the day.

The Pros

The information we got during this part of the day was fantastic. It reinforced the whole Venusian Arts method, which is Mystery’s Method. At the same time it offered stuff that was completely new and not out on the web. The day schedule was supposed to be from 2-6. Each day started at about 2 and ended at about 9:30 so that was about 7 hours each day of techniques. They even bought us pizza so we didn’t waste time going out to eat, which was great because it was that much more class time. Each instructor would present on different parts of the method, and Matador also taught very large portions of the seminar himself. So it was great hearing it from one of the true masters. It really makes it stick with you. We got to get in groups and role-play and ask our questions about our sticking points so we could overcome them. In comparison to the review I read about the previous bootcamps very little time was wasted, breaks were short and it was back to work. They are really getting their bootcamps together.

The Cons

The information was so much it seemed hard to squeeze it into 3 days. Also I would have been nice to have been provided a packet at the end of the class with all the information covered so we could use that to fill in the gaps in our notes. Time to practice our routines would have also been nice. I was hard with class letting out at 9:30 and the night portion starting at 10:30. The hour barely gave us enough time to get ready. Some videos of infield stuff would have been great, so that the instructors could point out what was being done correctly and incorrectly. Maybe they can get some spy cameras and give them to students that volunteer in upcoming bootcamps that way they can get some new footage that they can use for this purpose. Even with the 7 hour day it was still too short for the amount of information.

The night portion

Ok this is the fun part. Honestly I can’t find any cons for this except that I wish I could have been in more than one place at a time to see everyone demo and the second night I did miss a lot of Matadors demos. (Spy camera guys you need to get some). At the same time I can’t complain about missing those demos because I was out opening my own sets. That is the key to the night portion u have to just say FUCK IT! And open, open, and open. It’s all practice.

Night 1

The first night was demo’s night, and let me tell you everything you hear about Matador is true. He was out picking up girls, grabbing their tits, grabbing their asses, and making out with them. The crazy part is that instead of slapping him they were loving it. All the instructors were out opening set and asking if we wanted to see demos. There were no excuses given by any of them if you did want them to open. They would simply go in ad open, and every set would just smile and have a good time. It was incredible. As for my set opening ability, I was still really nervous, and instead of making it worse they were there to encourage and remind us that we were the Alfa males and everyone wanted to talk to us. I did manage to open 4 sets that night which was still the best I had done in a long time

Night 2

The second night was a whole new animal. Matador continued to open sets and just have girls all over him. His game was so good, one time he just went up to a girl looked at her and they started making out, she even insisted the 2nd kiss. At one point he had 4 girls in a row basically line up and just made out with each one. But then came the superhero kung fu slow-motion matrix move of the night. The girl that he had walked up to earlier and just started making out with came back and after a little game he grabbed her and disappeared. Well lets just put it this was you know Debbie Does Dallas, well that all I have to say. I cant even make this shit up to saound any crazier. As far as me I decided earlier that day in class after working on tighten my opener and DHV story that I was going to go out and open everybody, I just didn’t give a shit who they were, they were going to be grateful that I evne talked to them that night. So get this I went from 4 sets the night before to a staggering 31 (yes you read that right bitches lol), kiss closed 2 (more like made out), and got groped on one. The crazy part about all this is that I only got blown out of one set. The previos night I got blow out of 3 of my 4 ha-ha. My kung fu was strong that night, but I still have a lot to learn especially on how to escalate and understand their reactions to do that. The thing is everything in the set at first happened at the speed of light and if you think about it you lose it. I’ll talk about 1 highlight because I don’t want to chew your ear off. On third set I was with my boy Swift and he say a girl dancing by herself and tell me to go grab her hand and twirl her (btw girls love to be twirled, it always works and they never refuse). I did that and then she turns and grabs me all laughing and happy ask questions that I have no idea what they were. Then she turned to a guy that was standing by the bar and said that she was there with her boyfriend. So swift goes in and takes him, I go in and introduce myself. He’s all smiles, and then she asks her boyfriend if I could take her to the dance floor. So get this third set and I’m already stealing a girl from her boyfriend, I fucking love it. So we go out and immediately she grabs my hands and puts them on her ass. While we are dancing she grabs my hands and puts them on her tits, so no I’m just rolling with it and I lean in starting biting the neck pull up and as I do that I get a tongue from my chin to my nose. So we start making out ha-ha. This went on for a while but the night was young, I wanted to open more sets. So I see this guy that was watching us dance behind the girl (creepy fucker) point to her point to him thumbs up him spin her and give her away. Best part about it was as I left I petted the guy on the head and said goodbye. So yes there is hope for everyone and bootcamp is definitely a ticket to get there.

Swift all I have to say is the Sinister Smile gambit is all kinds of fun and made kino happen almost instantly.

Also special thanks to our 3 girl pivots they were great at making us look so important special thanks to Jennifer for walking around the club arm in arm and pumping me up to other people. Also Laura that Smell gambit was the bomb. I am so going to use that one.

Final Thoughts

Overall I would rate VA bootcamps 9.5 out of 10. The information was great the club nights were awesome. The people were fantastic. Each of the instructors gave their numbers to us and told us to call them anytime we needed to. Brock wants each of his students to call or email him every week with updates. So they do invest more than just one weekend when you sign up for the bootcamp. I highly recommend attending one if u can it’s the best money u will spend. I’m in Graduate School and I feel I got more out of these 3 days than I have in 5 months of college. It basically is Social College, and the information we learned can be used in more than just picking up girls. It’s all about a lifestyle of confidence and success. You can’t wait for your life to change you have to make it change, and this is a great place to start. Thank you all again and look forward to attending another bootcamp and hopefully you’ll be in Texas again.

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Program Review for Matador by kjtw, Dallas Bootcamp, Oct 07

October 29, 2007 by Blitz  
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I will tell you what, reading reviews and hearing what a bootcamp with Matador and Brock is like can only do so much!!! Words cannot describe this weekend’s experience!

First and foremost, all of the instructors…Matador, Brock, Brian, Steven, Adam…and the pivots…wow! How great!

The first night out (demo night) we were blessed with the honor of seeing Matador endlessly making out with one girl after another…at one point, I think he amazed himself…

The instructors really did a great job of helping to motivate the students into sets and helped us get over a lot of our sticking points…I opened more sets the first night than I had ever opened in a single night before…

The second night, a furtherance of amazement! Matador…what can I say…the BAM BAM BAM BAM make outs….one right after another! Then there was his…oh, I will leave that out! Leave it at this…MATADOR IS THE MAN!

Brock is an awesome instructor! His way of conveying the information so that it is easily understood was just amazing. His upbeat attitude and straight out passion for PU comes out in everything that he teaches…love the afro btw Brock! LOVE IT!

Swift, Groove, Elizan (I think that is how he spelled it)…all great teachers as well. Groove and Elizan are really down to earth and are great at motivating you to get in there. Swift…what can I say about Swift…well, his personality really rubbed on me at first but then I got over it and saw that his high energy and abilities at PU are phenominal….remember Swift…not the negative for me brother!

Over all, great experience. I would suggest to anyone and everyone that is serious about moving their game forward and improving their skills…TAKE A BOOTCAMP! If you can afford it, do it!

There are always areas that can be improved upon in every class and this one is no exception. The amount of time for the classroom sessions was too short. We went over EVERY night. I think that could definately be improved upon. Some videos in class to demonstrate what is being taught would help imensly also.

I WILL go to another Bootcamp when I am able to do so! It was an experience of a lifetime and I will NEVER forget it! Thanks everyone!!!!

PS - I know I didn’t get (or give) contact information to everyone in the class…anyone that was in the class can PM me to keep in touch! Happy Sarging!!

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Program Review for Matador by Sentinelrv, Atlantic City Bootcamp, Oct 07

October 23, 2007 by Blitz  
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Make sure you guys make Knack an instructor! Back in the Miami bootcamp I only opened up one set, but in AC Knack wouldn’t let me fail. He kept pushing me into sets, even if I didn’t have a lot of material to use. It made me realize that all this time I was scared to approach women, it wasn’t really anything serious. I got blown out a whole bunch of times simply because I wasn’t doing everything correctly. Either I wasn’t approaching right, not talking loud enough, not having enough energy and enthusiasm, not locking in, etc… But the thing was that all these times that I got blown out, nothing really happened to affect me. It felt just like a video game. I fucked up in the first level and just kept moving on to retry it on other people, until finally I actually made it into A3 with one girl and pulled her out to dance. Throughout all the sets I opened, Knack would point out exactly what I was doing wrong, so now I know what to watch out for.

Hawaii was great by giving me a new opener and helping me test it out on people in the casinos before I actually used it. Everybody thought I looked like a young Sammy Hagar from Van Halen, except my hair was shorter and dark brown, so I incorporated that into an opener. He was also helpful in giving me and the rest of the students interesting A2 gambits and routines that we can use to keep the conversation going. My problem in Miami was that I didn’t get many routines. Hawaii gave me so many I could last in A2 for a while, even without telling any DHV stories.

Matador was the man! The guy is just so passionate about what he does and teaches that you just feel his energy. Whenever he started teaching, I just couldn’t look away, he was just that interesting to watch and listen to. Plus, he really helped me understand A3 a lot more. I now understand more about how to caveman and be aggresive, and he also helped me understand more about my identity. I couldn’t understand something about my core values, and he only guessed at it by how he read me and helped me see things a lot clearer.

I didn’t spend a lot of time with Brock in field, but when I did he was always boosting me up with confidence and letting me know that I was doing so much better. He’s a really cool guy. He also had some very cool things to say during the class, especially the Pirates or Ninjas routine.

What made the experience better than Miami too was the other students that attended. Miami was such a big class, but in AC I was able to get to know everybody a lot better, especially since the instructors involved us so much more, instead of just teaching non stop. One of the guys, Chris # 2 helped me see that I really need to get out of my current job, go back to school and build a better future for myself….Thanks man!

Overall, the experience I had in AC was phenomenal. I felt so much more involved and came back with much more experience than the Miami bootcamp. I wanted to thank all the bootcamp instructors again, especially Knack for getting me out there in the first place and killing my approach anxiety. I hope to join you guys again some time in the future, hopefully with better game.

Also, I sent out an email to all my fellow students about the MySpace group, so we can all keep in touch. Check your email and join up as soon as you can. I look forward to speaking with you all.

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Program Review for Matador and Hawaii by Subpro, Atlantic City Bootcamp, Oct 07

October 23, 2007 by Blitz  
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Thanx 2 Hawaii, Matador, Brock, and Knack (who is the fucking bomb).

Muzik man basically said it all - so check his feedback.

Bottom line, if you have the $$, you have to go and see it for real. The skills and art are something that need to be witnessed. Every instructor has crazy game and they are all mad cool. Matador’s game is also all its hyped to be. I had the chance to bounce with him and two gurls on the second night and watch him run solid game. That in itself was worth the price of admission.

thanx: Thanx Hawaii for running the bootcamp, helping me one on one, and 4 being so fucking cool! Thanx Brock and Knack for taking the time to work one on one with me each night and for helping me with my game.

Ultimate benefits: 1) All the instructors were crazy accessable and willing to share knowledge; 2) Meeting a lot of up and coming PUAs who are mad cool.

-Subpro
(Im not a player, I just got a nice smile.)

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Program Review for Matador and Hawaii by so Smooth, Atlantic City Bootcamp, Oct 07

October 23, 2007 by Blitz  
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What up to my fellow gamers out there that wondering and thinking about us this weekend.

First and for most thank to Matador, Brock, Hawaii and Super Knack( thats right super)

I must say the show is an understatement to the things that these guys can do, especially when you are up close and watching things in demo mode. Matador does make things look so easy in set, but at the same time there is alot of mechanics to what he’s doing it really in mayhem when he’s in set
For example ( Imagine you are grinding on one girl, then your merging the set and your gaming another girl at that) At one point there was Time when Matador was going straight cave man on this girl that had fake tits, he was so f*cking good that he rubbed his face in her tits. ( and yes he will teach you how to go straight caveman) Overall he had us on the edge of our seat with his lecturing skills. He brought his material alive in the classroom, by making sound do clear.

On to my man Brock, Who I felt his style in very reminiscent of how I think I will be in time. We both dance, which was sick and he has this charasmatic game that I feel is hiding inside of me, He awokened my more playful side of game, telling me to smile more and be more playful. When I implemented this into my game It really worked like a charm. I got to spend alot of time with him in set on demo night. I took some of the routines that he has and I can’t wait to use them here in NY.

Hawaii was a good lecturer, he was great for gambits, routines, negs and cocky and funny material. He was very focused on us on friday night which was good. And he literally forced us into sets which killed alot of AA. He demoed on time for us, he really showed us hoe to neg the shit out of a grl that threw alot of shit tests. One thing abut Hawaii is that he really keeps his cool.

To be honest theres gonna be a reason i keep this line short. If u meet him u’ll know why I did. KNACK IS THE FUCKIN MAN. ( thank you bro for taking care of me all weekend.)

As for Friday night the club started of slow but as the night went on it started to fill up, My first set Matador coached me, I was using the routines, keeping this girl in awe. Matador literally came next to me and told me to do more kino, ( which is so crucial). Overall My friday was mediocre, Really didnt do to well only opening 5 sets, Brock and matador told me that I needed to KINO more and also locking in. My problem on friday was to get more into A3

Saturday was the complete opposite, Where I opened like 9 sets. Knack was the one who saw all of them. He was really coaching on satrday. But the way i Kinoed and locked in and handled the obstacles and everthing else was told to me was like poetry in motion, at least knack said that. I on the other hand know I could havedoone alot better, although i did number close. Remember Kosmo on the show when he had the two girls on his hands, that was me saturday night. It was really a complete turn around.

The one thing I wish I did have was a little more coaching from matador and brock on saturday, but I guess the thought I was fin, who knows.

The one thig that you should know about the bootcamps, they can turn out where everyone is occupied in set and your wanting a coach to watch you, dont get mad and just stand there. What you should do is just keep on opening sets.There are gonna be students that need more attention so donn’t take it personal. I did but Im over it because irealized that I actually was fine.
There will be times when the instructors are occupied, and there’s know one to coach you. Just grab your balls and open a set, and don’t get mad

That was the one con about the bootcamp( more quality time) I wish there was more time management as well, So I do agree with music man.

But again I learned so much more by taking the boot camp than by reading a book or watching you tube. I cant wait to c u all again thaks fellas for this life changing weekend.

 

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Program Review for Matador and Hawaii by TheMusicMan, Atlantic City Bootcamp, Oct 07

October 23, 2007 by Blitz  
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Hey all…

Just got back from the Atlantic City 2007 Bootcamp. I know
before I signed up for a BC, I read every review I could
find, so I figured this could help others out about knowing
what it’s like. (Plus some of the students in the class
said they wanted to post some comments here…which means
time to kick off the thread).

INSTRUCTORS: Major thanks to Matador and Brock for
helping making my Sat night success happen (I kept
hammering them both with questions when I was in set - see
below). Matador’s main role is a guest instructor during
the day, and someone to demo what is possible at night.
(Yes, everything you’ve read about his "powers" is
true.)…so the opportunity to get critiques and feedback
from him was good.

Hawaii was very down to earth and was all about giving us
practical "how to" info that would work in field.
Unfortunately, I never got to open sets with him (simply
because of logistics each night…I ended up with Matador
or Brock)…but the people who worked with him had good
things to say. He’s low key and very "chill" - which goes
a long way in my book. And also helped get A1-A2 material
stack going for us - thanks for giving us HOFBELS Hawaii!

Brock is great - he’s got style and I thought he was very
cool (turns out we have a very similiar background, so I
really hit it off with him…and he gave me great advice to
hit the kiss close).

And a new star on the scene (who will probably
become a new trainer for VA at some point) was Knack.
Every student was raving about him - he stayed with us
every single minute of the weekend and was only concerned
with making sure we were learning stuff. He was very
aggressive about getting people into sets. At first, that
turned me off, but I very quickly warmed up to him and have
a lot of respect for his style and personality (I heard
nothing but praise for him). Keep your eye out for this
guy - thanks for being so helpful Knack.

PROS: Being in a long-term relationship up
until recently, this weekend was a "drink from the
firehose" experience since I haven’t had a chance to go out
and do this in the past. My goal going into it was a kiss
close…and after Friday’s "demo night" (where you see the
trainers in action) - I was suddenly realizing how complex
this is and decided to settle for just good A1, A2 and A3
for Sat night.

Well, come Sat night (after building up confidence on
Saturday during our roleplaying, etc.) - I realized it
would be possible. In fact, I was fortunate enough to open
a few sets each night with Matador himself…and while I
was aiming to open 10+ sets on Saturday night..the 2nd set
I opened…I locked in with (not going to share ALL the
details here)…and spent 2 hours with my gal (Matador was
on the other side of our VIP booth with his gal)…and
ended up kiss closing her using help from Brock and some
kino techniques from Knack and Matador. While there was
still better A2/A3 that could have been done…WOO HOO.
I also did open a couple other hot sets too.

And I kissed her at the end of the night (she kissed me a few
times before she left actually) and number closed her.
Considering this was first time really out gaming at this
level, I was quite happy - and she even had a head on her
shoulders and some good brains.

The combination of "infield" and "theory" was very
valuable. ALL of the trainers knew their shit cold. There
was no BS with them - they are the real deal. Let’s just
say they had very good evenings both nights.

CONS: I’ll be honest, I gave them a poor
review on the forms early in the day Sunday when were asked
to review (it was mainly the "workshop" portion I felt this
way about - not necessarily because of the content, but
because of the way it was run). The way the forms were set
up, I really didn’t have an "inbetween" option. I would
revise my review now a bit based on the content covered
later in the day on Sunday and the chance to have my
personal questions answered by Hawaii and Matador.

The biggest drawbacks I (and from talking with other
students) experienced was a lack of organization during the
day portions.

A 5 minute break would last 30 minutes. And while we always
went several hours late, we never started on time (Sunday
ended at 1am…and Matador was covering GREAT content…but
if we hadn’t started 2.5 hours late on Sunday…we wouldn’t
have ended that late either - we did debriefs with Knack
starting on time on Sunday, but most of us had already
discussed our field reports with each other at that point,
instead of needed to do it for another 2.5-3 hours before
things got started). And sometimes we’d get off on a
tangent from a student question that had nothing to do with
where were in the workshop or what Matador or Hawaii were
covering.

Many of us were also hoping to get the "routine guides"
they were passing around for us to look at, but alas, they
wouldn’t give us a copy of them…which left us to either
sit there and hand copy anything that sparked our interest
(and miss out on the teaching being shared during the day
while we tried to furiously hand copy tons of material).

Yes, really artful game isn’t about routines…but about
the psychology behind the interaction…and the MPUAs
teaching us…definitely don’t rely on routine guides. But
for us newbies…that type of stuff is needed in the
beginning (especially at $4k/person - that’s not a small
amount, especially for many of the students there). I’ve
been to a good deal of $5k, $10k and $15k bootcamps,
seminars and workshops in a variety of niches - so I’m
using that as my baseline for this and for how they can be
run and delivered. I know the company is still very young,
so hopefully the professionalism of the way the event is
run (and the handouts you get) will improve for future BCs.
It should for the investment.

OVERALL: It was a good learning experience
that really opened my eyes to what is possible. And it
also opened our eyes to how this impacts OTHER areas of
your life too - it’s not about getting laid all the time
(it can be if that’s what you want though)…it’s got a lot
greater implication for how you approach your life and
challenges.

This is a high pricepoint obviously and the real value will
come from this if you are willing to go outside your
comfort zone a bit (you can only expect so much from
external forces)…and if you are willing to ASK QUESTIONS
when you are confused or stuck.

Even though I came down hard on how the day portion was
run, the trainers were all VERY accessible and
willing to answer ANYTHING and EVERYTHING asked. For me,
that interaction was very valuable…far beyond anything
you can get in a book (especially since the TV show burned
some of the good lines from the book).

You simply can’t make this type of progress this quickly
without a BC-type coaching experience.

Also, there was value (as there is at any live event)
in the networking portion. I made some great new friends,
both with the students AND the trainers. A $4k
customer/student is much different than a $20 book buyer,
so you’re getting people who aren’t just talking about
it…but who are actually doing it and serious about
investing into it. This is something I can see continuing
with - and already have plans to get back in the field with
some of the folks from this weekend. (And I could see
myself working in field with some of the trainers again).

Okay - that’s all folks…time for dinner. Hopefully that
helps those of you who are unsure or are on the fence!

Best wishes,
TMM

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Program Review for Matador and Hawaii by malibu808, Vegas Bootcamp, Oct 07

October 9, 2007 by Blitz  
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Hey Guys,

I was blown out of my fucking mind! For the most part, Matador taught the entire weekend, and let me tell you, a good portion of the things he covered I have never read anywhere, and they are not in any books! This guy is brilliant, and has obviously spent alot of time thinking about and deducting what he does and what goes on.

Hawaii and Matador taught the workshops at night. Both did a great job- back to that in a moment.

But in the room, Matador got into things about pickup that you don’t know, you don’t know, till he points it out to you! Then, your like, oh fuck, I never even considered that could be important, and in fact, its more important that anything you say!!!

Dudes, you have no idea just how strong this guys game is till you see him in action, and I was standing right next to him watching and listening. But more important for the aspiring PUA, is that Matador breaks it down and your realize there are two different things going on at the SAME TIME.

The verbal communication thread, which we all know, but more important, and I cannot overemphasize how this totally changed my concept of game and pick up, its all the non verbal subtle moves that create IOI’s, IOD, etc that he taught, and how they work. We got down to which way you point your feet! I mean, he had books on the floor because people were not pointing their feet in the right way to deliver the opener in such a manner as it works best. He broke it down like I have never seen. He addressed each guy several times on things specific to them. He is a master at spotting in congruent moves!

Then, we got out and I watch him do the arts, and its like, over the top. He pulled the first night, and we both were right there to pull the second night, but logistics were a problem. Heres what happened:

I was working a set with Matador, he had one, I had the other, and we had them isolated. He’s kissing his girl, I am kissing my girl, and all of a sudden, my girls blurts out to me " I want to fuck you!" " Where can we go?" But, the problem at that point was logistics, etc. so we number closed and moved on. That pretty much convinced me that something was way different about this bootcamp and what he was teaching me!

Now, like some of you guys, I went to the old company bootcamp, thinking it was Mysterys company. But, it wasnt. And now having done both, I can attest that Venusian Arts and what they teach was far far superior to the old company, and is a whole new level of game that is NOT out in paperback!

We spent way more time with the instructors, it was a much smaller group, we got alot more personally time, and they taught alot more material.

But most important, which is what I thought, it appears to me, my personal opinion, that the technology of what Mystery, along with Matador, develops and its ongoing development, is NOT the same as what they teach at the old company. In fact, I would say that the old company omitted information, taught things differently, and was not as thorough with the information as these guys were.

Like others have posted, Hawaii is a super cool guy, and very much takes care to ensure the attendees have a great bootcamp, and all goes smooth.
Matador and Hawaii both pushed us into sets over and over, and then we would work what happened.

From what I gather Matador is not going to be doing these bootcamps forever, because he has other opportunities and other interests that he is working on. Suffice to say, get em while you can, because just like what happened with Mystery, who now rarely teaches bootcamps anymore as he has so much other things going on, I suspect Matador wont be doing this as much either. Its a rare glimpse at a level of game that is the very best.

THanks for Mystery as well.

Rock on.

Malibu808

PS. Vegas is a great place to sarge - lots of venues, lots of ladies, and 24/7 action. Saturday nights venue was by far and away the best for a club I have been too. WE keep where we went for future attendees.

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Program Review for Miami Bootcamp, by metaphor, Aug 07

September 17, 2007 by Blitz  
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where do i start….
the seminar in Miami was just out of this world….and i really mean that…i came to Miami with no expectations of what may happen and wow did it happen….
the bootcamp made all the more sense having read the book and i now know how to implement it better…
MYSTERY,MATADOR nd LOVEDROP….they know their stuff inside out and upside down and backwards and forwards…and not only that they showed in in field….
MYSTERY………. its your method and you’re a genius and i am totally bowled over at how F****** easy you make it….and i now know it is F******* easy…
MATADOR…..youre one hell of a guy….really you impress the F******shit out of me and im sure all the other guys….you make it so easy and trust me i know it is easy once you apply the tools and the method….dude don’t keep your skills all to yourself….
LOVEDROP ……you teach passionately in the class and in field …..and i now through just of your little tweaks i don’t hold the beer gl to my chest….
you are a great guy….
BLITZ….i now know the man who i spoke to on the phone and i know you have put a lot into this and it was so fun hanging out with you….

the bootcamp gave me the tools to take with me to Cancun and Playa del Carmen,Mexico.
and one of the openers that i learnt was "how do you all know each other"….
boy , how many sets i opened with Mr G after just asking that q and realised they’re F*******friends and so easy to take control of the set…..
just writing about it is getting me all pumped up and want to be in field right now…
the guys from the Miami bootcamp were awesome and we all learnt from them and SCORPIO and MYTH123 you got my number……
watching the guys in field in training on Fri and Sat night was awesome at how barriers broke and how many HBs we spoke to…..

"back to me knucklehead"..a favorite line of Mystery…..

just one of many many lines and openers that i learnt…..
the negs and the push pulls i know how to use them…..

so back to Mexico…..

go laid once and had many kisses…..and bounced many a time and took numbers….

back in london now…….

had one date and the negs and the DHV-ing of myself has prompted women to buy ME drinks…..and my first lay…….in 4 days …..since coming back to London.

i know …….

MASTERS ARE MADE IN TRAINING……and that is what i learnt from all the guys that taught me and all the others…

on that note…..

i would dearly love to say a mega thank you to all who taught me especially the two lovely wingwomen…..

and yes i would recommend this training to anyone who wants to move to another level and raise the bar and raise the ante on their game…..these guys are passionate about you being a PUA….and thats it…..

they care about you not making the same old same say mistakes like Lovedrop hinting to me to lower my glass from my chest…you know what im talking about to have it by my legs…
the guys are all very very warm and no yes no question was avoided with awkward silences or "well discuss that question later" answers.

this is and was the the best education i had on social education and money well worth spent….
it should be taught in schools.

Metaphor.

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Program Review for Miami Bootcamp, by latinSuave, Aug 07

September 13, 2007 by Blitz  
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Alright, Let me start by saying "this bootcamp changed my life" Im a totally different person today hen I was before this amazing event. Learning with the best made this bootcamp for me "an unforgettable experience."

I learned so many techniques for handling not just situations around women, but with plp in general. Im a much more social hman beign now. ts amazing, The other day I went into a social gathering to which I usually go to. I have never beign able to pick up a HB at this place before. Now, I went in with a few friends and a pivot, I opened about 3 sets in the first 15 min. (used canned material) the amazing thing was that after about 30 min a girl came up and opened me!!!!!
This was amazing, we talked for a little while and escalated I would say all the way to comfort building….that is not the point though….my main point is that by just being social and proecting a good vibe to everyone, amazing things can happen. I learned all these concepts and tips at he venusian arts bootcamp…Im still going out 3-4 time weekly and wrking on opening and aproach anxiety…One thing I know for sure: "my life is not the same" and my success with women only has one path…the path of glory!!!! Thank a lot Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop, and the WHOLE VA team!!!!!

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Program Review for Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop by myth123, Miami Bootcamp, Aug 07

September 10, 2007 by Blitz  
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Anybody ever walk by a mall, school, work, club, etc….And then saw that GIRL you really wanted to meet but didnt know how to make things happen? So we think well what do we do? I KNOW!!! let me buy her a drink&ask her questions TO SHOW how nice i am. Yaaaa!!!! now i got her. WRONG! truth is you just lost her. Your thinking your being nice when in REALITY she’s thinking this guy doesnt even know me&he wants to buy me drinks. He must want something maybe even get in my pants, he’s just like the other guys. I know!!! I’ll get a few drinks out of him then ditch him to meet up with the girls. SOUND FAMILIAR….well guys i got a solution for you. What if you can turn the tables around and have any girl you want to start calling you, asking when can she see you again, etc…well guys i went from a non-believer this is a gimmick to a F****** believer. "THE MYSTERY METHOD" its genius. Its female psychology. You can actually say things with a few techniques that will cause the women to feel attracted to you. Your doing it and she cant help it. (not cool to manipulate a girl find one you really like&get to know her)
Miami was amazing with Mystery, my man Lovedrop, my boy Adam, Hawaii, my homie Matador, and of course my brother from another mother Brock, These guys will transform your life! I feel much more confident as a person and they put my game on a much higher level. I worked mostly with Brock (dude got GAME) we opened&built attraction with 70% of our sets. The rest didnt open because as i was learning i was making mistakes, then of course Brock corrected me so i knew how to game better. On our 2nd night in field (AMAZING) ADAM&BROCK you guys rule!!! I opened a 7 set, 6 girls and 1 guy. Packed with the mystery method knowlege i was able to game the 3 hot girls& disarmed the other 3 girls. WHILE…i repeat…WHILE the guy was cockblocking he was like " He got game he’s just gaming you girls he got game" So i beat him with some AMOG destroying lines. And the girls flipped hahaha…I later left to get to a 3set i opened earlier inside the club, eventually that cockblocker managed to snap those girls out of attraction while i was gone so its cool tho i had fun. Ok back to the 3-set (2 yellows and a red) I managed to open and build attraction with all 3 it was AWSOME because they started competing on who gets more attention (-: Hahahah So guys their you have it if you want to change your life LEARN the GAME. Bootcamp with any of the guys i mentioned is GOLD. My personality definetly came out more as a person. And im much more confident when i walk now. I personally feel the person who my identity is most congruent with would be my boy Matador. (dude is a chick magnet dont step on his toes he’ll snatch your girl literally haha) And a special thancks to BLITZ&DUSTIN these guys are behind the scenes and they work really hard. So thancks guys because without you their is no Venusian Arts, your time is greatly appreciated. Venusian Arts much love goes out to you guys maybe one day we’ll be gaming in the same joint haha…"Mystery’s Method" it changed my life&it will change yours. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. Bootcamp with Brock= A new transformed man…and ultimately a LADIES MAN. And i challenge anybody who says otherwise!

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Program Review for Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop by newport, Miami Bootcamp, Aug 07

September 9, 2007 by Blitz  
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First off let me say that this was the single most life changing experience ever! And yes, it was worth every cent! And no, I don’t work for them. Anyone who wants to get this area of their life under control should seriously consider taking it. It was hard work from day one, but you will be ecstatic with the results. You will be a new man. Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop, Dustin and my main man Blitz didn’t cut any corners and were dead serious about drilling all of the info into your head. Not only that, but the guys attending the workshop were the greatest group of people you’d ever want to meet! Everyone (including each instructor) was kool, genuine and super friendly. So as a bonus, I got to make a bunch of new friends! Keep in touch with me fellas and if you ever want to sarge in Miami, drop me a line! Also e-mail me any photos you may have of me if you can! Thanx! I’d really appreciate it. Now, let’s get down to the good stuff! I’ma tell you what happened!
On day one, Lovedrop taught most of the classroom workshop because Mystery was running late. Lovedrop is an excellent instructor and helped me out immensely on day two (we’ll get to that in abit)! He has a laidback style combined with bursts of animated high energy. Three other instructors were there as well; Hawaii, Adam & Brock. The classroom portion is pretty much what’s in Mystery’s handbook, but you get the luxury of hearing and seeing real life, in person applications and expansions of it. Mystery came in around 8:00 PM; spoke for an hour and then the class went to a club. This is when the fun began!
At the club Mystery macked on a table full of six girls, then a few more randomly joined in. At one point, a chick exposed Mystery as a pick up artist and he shrugged it off and kept mackin on the girls. They were putty in his hands! He had chick after chick approach him for photos and just conversation! There was a VIP section of sorts for us to hang out in and observe him in action! Lovedrop arrived shortly afterwards with his girlfriend and began to do his thing (Mystery’s was there too and she helped us also)! In a matter of an hour Mystery had no less than 20 chicks around or trying to be around him. There were 9 girls seated with him and he was tonguing down this Asian girl with her best friend sitting right next to him! Man, did she look jealous! Every girl in the club wanted a piece of Mystery, no lie!
But when Matador arrived he changed my world forever! He came in and immediately began to physically lift girls up, call them b*tch’s, grab them, lick them, kiss them and squeeze there t#ts all within a few seconds of approaching them! He let me roll with him for the entire night to watch him do his thing. He then broke it down for me frame by frame and even described what was going to happen before he stepped to a girl. It was unreal what he was doing to these girls!
He was a class act all the way! He even opened chicks then pawned them off to the students to work on! Lovedrop was creating his own buzz and all of a sudden a ton of dudes came into our area trying to steal his girls. He wasn’t worried and said to me, “See that dude? He’s going to creep the girls out” The dudes tried to copy Lovedrops moves, but they scared the girls away. LOL! Lovedrop knows his stuff!
This scene continued throughout the night. At the end, Mystery said to me, “Those three girls want me to dance with them, maybe I will, maybe I wont.” He eventually did and a fine a*s black chick was all on him! Later he and Matador each were kissing a girl and Matador lifted his up and said, “Who’s got the baddest bit*ch?” He swung her around for all of us to see and she wasn’t wearing any panties! He then gave me a “glance” so I can observe him do his thing. Before he did anything to the chick, he made eye contact with me and then felt her up. First, her thighs, then he squeezed her t*t! Thanx for that one Matador! The night ended about 5am because the club was closing, but not before Mystery and Matador both pulled chicks to go home with them to do the nasty! I was awestruck! I know everyone always describes this stuff like seeing “The Matrix”, but it’s true!
One day two, Lovedrop and Matador covered the classroom section; Matador has a very strong philosophy and beliefs, which he imparted upon us. Mystery arrived around 5 pm to continue with the lesson. But, as a previous attendee pointed out, it was during the breaks that the true gems were discussed.
That night we went to another posh Miami club and it was the student’s turn to strut their stuff while the instructors observed. Lovedrop assisted me in working sets and when he saw me stale out in one of them, he took me to the bathroom area of the club. There, right in front of an employee, he began to inform me on what I did wrong and how to fix it. Suddenly, out of nowhere, a black dude overhearing our conversation swings open a door and says, “Is this The Pick-Up Artist!?” “Are you guys from The Pick-Up Artist!?” LOL! Lovedrop then tells me to give him all of my money and informs me I won’t get it back until I open more sets. And, as we leave, he buys a pack of gum by flinging a dollar of mine to the attendant. LOL! I keep on opening sets and things become sooooo natural and much easier! Thanx Lovedrop!
Then things take off! Matador points out a set for me to open! It was a gorgeous blond! I approach, start a conversation and she’s all into me! She then introduces me to her two fine a*s daughters! I had all of them laughing and touching me all over! And yes, I do get the phone number! Because I’m only practicing my moves, I bring in another student to take over. While I do so, I look to my left. A chick sitting on a sofa in between two guys leans all the way in my direction, looks me straight in the eyes and smiles from ear to ear! I did exactly as Mystery said and befriend the fellas and mack on the girl. I couldn’t believe I was getting away with that sh*t! When I tell Mystery, he asks me, ‘Did you merge the sets?” I go back and do so and that’s when I finally (like Neo) begin to see some of the green binary coding! A whole new world opens up for me fellas!
I continue doing this all into the night again and again and I can’t believe how easy it is! I’m really excited and then my main man Blitz enters and changes my world again that night. He instructs me to approach a two set with one of his openers and tells me to touch them a certain way. I’m like, “No way man. They won’t let me do that!” He say’s, “You paid a lot of money for this.” He’s right. So I go do it and not only do the girls let me touch them that way, they’re smiling at me from ear to ear too! It’s amazing the things chicks will let a complete stranger do to them fellas! Next, Blitz points out a curvy black chick that’s into me. How he knew that is beyond me, but he’s right! She had arrived with a white girl. I walk up to her and it’s on! She’s smiling and touching me all over and when I take a step back, she steps forward and strokes my arm!
The juicy part is, when I leave, Lovedrop enters the set, starts talking to them, and
in a matter of seconds, has both chicks mesmerized by him! You should’ve seen it! They had hearts in their eyes! It looked just like a scene from a cartoon when both girls are into the same guy! If I weren’t there, I wouldn’t have believed it! Then Matador approaches and scoops up the white chick and is feeling her up! She loves it! Next, the black chick tries to pull her friend from Matador. Instantaneously, Lovedrop bolts into action and yanks the black chick away in one direction and Matador pulls the white chick in another. Madador,ends up boinking her that night!
Mystery, by the way, was kicking game to another chick by the bar. She shit tested him and he froze her out. When the club closed, she came looking for him outside!
It was an awesome night!
On the last day, Mystery wrapped up the final classroom material and imparted some words of wisdom to all of us. We all received autographed, personalized copies of his book and took photos with him, Matador and Lovedrop! And as a bonus, a passing photographer from “Ocean Drive” Magazine took a class photo of us outside of the hotel!
All in all, it was a real eye opening experience! Thank you all (students included) for everything! Mystery, you’re a super kool guy buddy and I can’t express how helpful your words and tip were to me! Matador, your in a class all by yourself champ! I really appreciate you taking the time to personally show me the ropes! Watching you do your thing is unforgettable!!. Lovedrop, thanks for giving me my money back ace (lol) and for taking an interest to critique, show and push me! You definitely have all the right moves slick! And Blitz! You need to be an instructor killa! You are the man dude! What you said and showed me to do really tied everything together for me! You really changed my life man and I really appreciate it! And thank you to all of the students that befriended me and shared their knowledge as well!
Thanx guys! I wish all of you the best and continued success! Take care and stay safe! And yes, I do recommend taking a Venusians Arts Bootcamp!

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Program Review for Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop by Dionysus, Miami Bootcamp, Aug 07

September 7, 2007 by Blitz  
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Having completed the recent Venusian Arts PUA Bootcamp, I just had to post my comments. I WAS BLOWN AWAY!! I am not a gullible person nor an I easily impressed but the Venusian Arts bootcamp was awesome. Not only did they cover ten times the material I expected (from the built-in gene codex that a women can’t escape and how to work that to your advantage…to how to carry your drink in a club) All of the different nuances that a woman subconsciously picks up on that translates into your an "Alpha Male."
Yes, this apparently was the last small bootcamp that Mystery will participate in but all of the other Trainer/Coaches (Matador, Love Drop, Hawaii, Brock/"Prophet" and Adam/"Smooth Move" and Dustin are just as capable at transferring their knowledge and experience to others.
The conference/meeting times typically ran over (In fact the last day it ran over by 4 hours). You could tell that they are very passionate about knowledge they are sharing and that it’s not about putting in the allocated time just so they could get paid. They actually want everyone to fully grasp the material. They want you to succeed and to be a different person from when you first showed up.
Extra props go to Brock/"Prophet" and Adam/"Smooth Move." They were very inspirational in their own techniques and gambits that they shared during the in-field training. They have such quick wits to come up with "personal" gambits you could use right then, that fit your style and personality, that it made it easy and comfortable to open sets, even though being somewhat apprehensive.
I can’t say enough about the Venusian Arts program. Anyone reading this, who is on the fence and contemplating doing the bootcamp and changing you life….. all I can say is… JUST DO IT!!! Hey, it comes with a money back guarantee, so there are no valid excuses.
Dionysus

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Program Review for Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop, by Tagteam, New York Bootcamp, Jul 07

September 3, 2007 by Blitz  
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As can be expected, these guys delivered the goods. We had the benefit of this being a relatively small bootcamp which gave us a lot of intimate (in an teacher/student sense) time with these mPUAs. Matador kicked things off in the class and would go right in to routines including body language, showing you exactly how you should use these in the field. You cannot substitute reading this in a book vs. having it demonstrated to you. Mystery then picked up the instruction later in the day and these two alternated, and at times instructed together. Routines were given that are not in print as far as I am aware. Most important of all, these guys always gave more than what was promised. On breaks, they spent the time with you casually discussing one on one questions or issues, they stayed much later than required to the point where we really had little time to rush home and change and get back for the in-field portion. In field, they were there to help you with your inner game, overcome approach anxiety, watch you open and give you pointers, show you how they open and lock in sets. It really imbeds in your psyche what we already know, that there is no substitute for the field. Using the material and the methods that are taught, sets opened as promised.

Going out at night we rolled in style, thanks to my fellow student who generously provided us with the stretch limo (pm me also if you read this so we can stay in touch). Got into clubs immediately with no rope bs, and had VIP treatment inside. These guys know how to roll.

I did a follow up in Miami, only the class room session as there was so much material and I got a lot out of it the next time around as well as meeting some of the other instructors such as Lovedrop. Once again, excellent sessions and thanks to all of the instructors.

These guys are the real deal and this is money that I feel is well spent because you could waste years of your life struggling to figure out what you can get in an intense weekend with these guys.

I also did the strippers and hired guns with Mystery in NY and he really opened up in an even more intimate setting, was extremely attentive and answered all questions and shared many things with us beyond what was required. He really is an incredible person to meet and talk to, so, thank you Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop and others who spent time with us in these bootcamps.

PS Lists of names, emails and phone numbers were taken by a student in each boot camp to be distributed so we can stay in touch. I haven’t received these from either bootcamp so if any of my fellow students from NY or Miami are reading, please pm me so we can stay in touch.

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Program Review for Miami Bootcamp, by Droptelabels, Aug 07

September 1, 2007 by Blitz  
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The Venutian Arts Mystery Special Training Workshop Bootcamp greatly exceeded my expectations. Mystery, Lovedrop, and Matador not only provide students with incredible social dynamics knowledge and valuable insights on developing the pick up arts skillset, but they also offer students the ability to transform all the pick up arts knowledge and philosophies into a way of life that students can integrate into their personal lifestyle and goals. During this Mystery Special Training Workshop Bootcamp, I overheard one of the student’s remark that Mystery, Lovedrop, and Matador’s pick up arts knowledge and gaming skillset is not natural but rather unnatural because of the consistent positive opening, attraction, connection, and seduction they all achieve with women. After experiencing this Mystery Special Training Workshop Bootcamp instructors’ conference lectures, infield demonstrations, infield guidance, and feedback; Mystery, Lovedrop, and Matador are actually supernatural pick up artists. Mystery, Lovedrop, and Matador have developed the pick up arts skillset into a super power that can be explained, demonstrated, and learned. Because Mystery, Lovedrop, and Matador have such incredibly high standards for the quality of the Bootcamp’s material and teaching, I highly recommend that anyone interested in learning the pick up arts skillset must attend a Venutian Arts Workshop Bootcamp…it just doesn’t get any better than this.

 

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Video Tesimonial for Matador Mayhem Technique

September 1, 2007 by Blitz  
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Matador’s Mayhem Technique making waves… Three video testimonials fresh from the Mystery Special Training tour 2007…

 

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Program Review for Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop by Mirage, Miami Bootcamp, Aug 07

August 31, 2007 by Blitz  
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This was an incredible experience. The wealth of knowledge was unbelievable. The information with examples really cleared up a lot of questions and put everything together. Just reading the forums, books, and online posts will never get you the lecture detail and in field knowledge that every PUA needs.

There were a few downsides to the whole experience. We had a few underage students in the group which made it difficult to get into the nightclubs. In my opinion, this situation should have already been taken into consideration. Another downside was time management. It appeared that there was little organization when it came to lecture start times, break times, and nightclub time. This was quite frustrating for many students I had talked to.

Watching everyone infield was incredible. All the instructors did exactly what they said they would do. I was thoroughly impressed! Most of our instructors were eager to help and analyze what we were doing right or wrong. Hawaii gave me the most pointers and really improved my sets 100%.

Overall, I had a kick a*s time and can’t wait to get my game up to speed and hopefully see these guys in the field!!! Until then I’ll be sarging.

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Program Review for Hawaii by Qbert, Vegas Bootcamp, Aug 07

August 31, 2007 by Blitz  
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Here’s my review of the Las Vegas Boot camp with Hawaii (8-10-07 / 8-12-07)

Classroom:

First off, Hawaii has been limiting his Vegas boot camps to just three students. So with the small number of students, Hawaii was able to tailor our lecture portion each day to our individual knowledge levels. In fact, this started a few days before the boot camp with a call from Hawaii. During the call, he gets a feel for your knowledge and skill level and plans the entire boot camp accordingly. This was really helpful as we spent more time learning and practicing material that was specific to our individual needs. In fact, I don’t think we spent any time going over concepts or material we already knew. I took pages of notes and got lots of new material to try out in the field.

Field:

Day 1 was at a local night club on the strip. We thought it was going to be just us and Hawaii, but to our surprise, Matador joined us also. Since this was demo night, the first thing we did was watch Hawaii open a set. Hawaii approached a two set and was sitting down with them and had them laughing within thirty seconds. The target was leaning over the obstacle she was so attracted! Hawaii used the exact routines he had taught us in class and they worked perfectly. Listening to someone talk about this stuff is one thing, but to actually see it in action is incredible. After Hawaii’s set, Matador went to work. Well, I don’t even know how to describe that. He basically took over the entire venue. Matador adds new meaning to the words alpha and kino. On one of his sets, he had the target so attracted she left the set and asked us what was happening (to her). I don’t think she had ever felt that level of attraction before. Thirty seconds later she was cleaning Matador’s tonsils! Incredible thing to see. I watched him make out with five different girls that night, so this guy is definitely the real deal. After Hawaii ran another demo, he started sending us into sets. Both Hawaii and Matador were incredibly helpful and knowledgeable. You definitely have to be able to take criticism, but it was always delivered in a helpful manner and there was no judgment or egos involved.

Day 2 was just us and Hawaii. Instead of another night club, Hawaii decided to have us run sets in the casino lounges. The good thing about this was it was way quieter than a night club, so we didn’t have to yell to be heard or lean in to hear. Hawaii gave us instant feed back on every set. This was the most helpful thing for me and the reason I took a boot camp in the first place. Hawaii brought a video camera with him and covertly filmed us in set. That’s not part of the boot camp, just something he is experimenting with. We reviewed the video on Sunday and it was incredibly helpful to actually see yourself in set.

Day 3 was at a local buffet which was more relaxing than a classroom setting. We debriefed, ate and then actually ran some more sets.

Intructors:

Hawaii: First off, Hawaii is an all around great guy. He is incredibly helpful and really takes his job seriously. I sincerely believe his motivation for teaching this stuff is to help people and ensure they succeed. During the boot camp, Hawaii went above and beyond the call of duty to help us out and make sure we were successful. He is very easy going, but is relentless in pushing you past your comfort zone to get you doing things you don’t believe you can do. Hawaii has a great knowledge of the material and he presented it in a fun, interesting way. He followed up each presentation with insight and experiences that really helped me understand the material. I would highly recommend him for a boot camp or a one on one!

Matador: I am not going to write a lot about Matador, because I think his reputation says enough. His knowledge of the game is very, very extensive and deep. When he talks about game theory, it seems almost spiritual. Watching his style of game is incredible. I would not have believed it if I hadn’t seen it. He is at a level way above anyone else I have ever seen. If you ever get a chance to take a boot camp with him, do it!

Overall Impression:

The boot camp was definitely worth the expense. There is no better way to learn than taking a boot camp. The instructors were great and incredibly helpful. The most insightful thing for me was watching both Matador and Hawaii open sets. Both of them were using the same method and material but with entirely different styles. Matador was over the top, guns blazing alpha guy, while Hawaii was low key and under the radar. It showed me that any type of guy can make this work with a little dedication and practice.
Thanks to Venusian Arts for the experience!

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Program Review for LA Bootcamp, by rawkstar, Aug 07

August 24, 2007 by Blitz  
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Let me guess.

You want to have sex with more beautiful women, and you want it soon.

Otherwise, you wouldn’t even be considering going to a highly-priced Venusian Arts bootcamp.

You’re probably just like I was before I attended this one — I remember scrolling through all the reviews on this forum to see if it would be worth it or not…

So, I’ll give you the short answer first:

YES.

In other words, if you want to turn your life around RIGHT NOW, and your sick and tired of waiting, then this is exactly what you need.

Especially if you’re the kind of person (like I was) who’d read all the documents online, and watched all the movies available on the Internet.

See, I’d actually spent years drifting in and out of the "online" community, and haphazardly putting the material to work with limited success.

I’d always figured that I didn’t actually need to go to the bootcamp for training.

After all, I’m a pretty self-sufficient guy, and a lot of the things I know I taught myself.

Well, you’ve heard it before, but I’m going to tell it to you again…

Simply seeing Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop in PERSON will leave you walking away NEW MAN…

And there are three reasons for this, in my opinion.

1. Seeing them in person will reprogram your subconscious mind. Chances are one of the main reasons you aren’t having the success you want to have with this stuff just yet is that your subconscious mind is providing a lot of resistance. A good analogy would be if I told you I had a method to teach you how to levitate. One of your biggest roadblocks would be believing that it was even possible, and that if it was, that my method would work.

Once you’ve seen this stuff with your own eyes, a lot of the subconscious resistance will be gone. You’ll finally KNOW that it’s possible to reach your goals.

Watching Matador teach his top-secret "alpha caveman" method was mind-blowing, and watching him use it to kino-escalate with girls at Le Deux right before our eyes was a life-changing experience. You need to see it.

2. You’ll get the "real truth" from directly their mouths to your ears. Although the seminar itself was pure gold, perhaps even more valuable were the breaks we took every few hours. During them, Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop were all available to talk casually about anything any of us wanted to know. And, since it was off camera, they told us some things which I wasn’t expecting…Unfortunately I don’t think I can re-type them there

3. You’ll finally get a chance to take this part of your life seriously. Like I said earlier, if you’re anything like me you’ve been dabbling in the Venusian arts and you have already realized that it’s time to take it all to the next level. Well, this is it. The combination of the intensive in-class bootcamp, the in-field training, and the personalized one-on-one help you’ll get will kick you into the next gear. I know it did for me and everyone else there.

Hopefully, without sounding too much like a sales pitch (they aren’t paying me to write this, I swear), I want to leave you with one closing remark.

This is your LIFE.

What the heck are you doing wandering around WONDERING if you should really do what it takes to have sex with beautiful women?

Especially when there are amazing, giving people like Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop who have literally dedicated their lives to helping people like you figure it all out?

Go to the bootcamp. And, take advantage of their money-back guarantee if it doesn’t work out for you.

I doubt you’ll want it — nobody at my bootcamp was even considering asking for a refund because it helped everyone so much — but, if it doesn’t work for you, then that’s what it’s there for.

Just don’t lie and tell them it didn’t work for you, because these guys are truly here to help you.

Get up. Go. Then, send me an email, and we’ll go out sarging!

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Program Review for Playboy Mansion Bootcamp, by hrithik Aug 07

August 22, 2007 by Blitz  
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I’ve always wanted to do a boot camp, but always found an excuse. So when I saw that it was going to be at the Playboy Mansion I jumped on it immediately. I expected the opportunity of a lifetime. This was worth EVERY FUCKING PENNY.

Although the official instructors were supposed to be Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop, we had others there not only in the field but also during seminar. Styles was a special speaker on our second day, Ross Jeffries on the third. We also had other people who came out with us on the field to help us out. J-Dog, Blitz, Kerr, as well as others (cant remember all the handles) were there. There were even some alumni who came around to offer their advice and help us open sets. Even the girls who served as pivots helped. I had one instance where one of the pivots saw me standing around, and grabbed me to dance. She then says "You see those girls over there behind me…they were looking at you and saw me grab you to dance…go open the set".

The first night we went out to the Playboy Mansion. Yes it was everything I expected! Mystery walked in and pretty much owned the place. There was one chick who told her friend "Oh my god, that pick up artist guy mystery just hit on me…I cant believe he paid attention to me". To me thats a sign that the VH1 show is not going to kill the game like all these Chicken Littles are screaming. Anyway…so there were all types of random celebrities there. DMX, Pauly Shore, Bishop Don Magic Juan, Mad Mike & Diggity Dave from MTV’s Pimp My Ride, Bobby Brown (who was pissed cause Matador took his girl away LOL). Not only did we get to see these guys in action but we got some action of our own. The pictures, the memories, and some of us were able to number close a couple of the chicks. I was able to get one and Im still amazed it worked. And of course there’s the bragging rights…how many people can honestly say they’ve been to the Playboy Mansion. I’m told that at other bootcamps the first night is demo night where we watched the Instructors in action, but this was a special bootcamp so were given a crash course and unleashed into the field to have fun. I wasnt sure how to go so Mystery told me to stick to me Rockstar persona which worked like a charm. Peacocked with these dark glasses and chains. Some hot chick runs up to me and screams "Oh My God its you". I smile but then she says "Youre the guy from pimp my ride!". My first reaction was to crack up and say no. So she was upset and walked away (dumb move by me). After realizing my fuck up I moved to an area near the bar where she would bump into me. When she came over I smiled but she gave me this look which said "Oh no this loser". SO I go whoa whoa..you dont have to be a bitch I was going to introduce you to the cast. Then she was confused and says but I thought you werent on the show. I tell her you coming or not…and signla to grab my arm. So I walk off with the hot chick on my arm for all the other females to see, and over to the Pimp My Ride guys. She’s so happy she calles over her other hot friends and now they want to take pics with me and the Pimp My Ride guys. It was an 8 set now…I managed to pull 3 who I worked on all night. It didnt really matter which of the 3 I get cause they were all hot. We danced, I made them laugh using some routines Lovedrop showed me, however they came with some guy who kept AMOGing me every so often and pulling the wntire group away. EVentually I would find them elsewhere and the group would come back but whenever the AMOG showed up it was back to him. At the end of the night I remembered what mystery said about Survival & Replication and it reminded me of something I saw on the discovery channel. There were these 2 males (cant remember if it was birds or insects) comepting for a female. They both wanted to mate with her and got into a fight. While the two were busy fighting a third male came in and mated with her while the 2 knuckleheads were fighting. So while the AMOG was trying to find the rest of his girls I went in for the kill on one of the 3 girls. I told her she was a cool ass chick but my friends were leaving and I wanted to get in touch with her later. Number closed, myspace closed…and went back to the rock I was sitting on like nothing happened. As the AMOG leaves with the girls…she waves and gives me the signal telling me to call her.

Second night we go to this ultratrendy, ultrachic club called Les Deux Cafe. Anyway its the hangout spot for Lindsy Lohan, Paris, Paula Abdul, etc. We had Styles as a guest speaker and he gave us some more openers and different tests to run. We go there in a stretch hummer limo, we’re on the list and we skip EVERYONE. 90% of the girls were 10’s (if you use #’s to rate girls LOL). So we get there and we’re put out into the field I was one of the lucky guys that got to crash & burn (learn). I got good feedback from everyone to show me what I was doing wrong. By the last couple of sets I was doing way better than the first ones. I was actually able to bring them over and mix them with other groups. SO once I was burned I decided to watch the masters in action. Lovedrop was seriously trying to look bad. He was trying to show us how not to do it…but it wasn’t working since he was still doing the correct body language, kino, etc. So he wasnt the sloppy guy, he was the funny guy and they loved him (even though he wasnt trying). I saw Mystery make out with some chick in a matter of seconds. Some guy walked up to him in the club, said he watches the show but thought it was all BS. He felt his game was good enough and he doesn’t try or do any of the things they do. So Mystery goes…can you do this. He turns around and grabs a chic…and what happened next seemed out of a vampire flick. He smiles at her…gazes into her eyes…rubs her ears…caresses her neck…then he makes out with her for 2 secs and pushes her away. I was like what the fuck!?!?! and the guy who doubted mystery had the same look on his face . Then Mystery goes…"SO yeah…I’m going to give you a website talk to this guy over here (cant remember who)". The guy was just amazed. As was I. Lastly I was one of the guys who got to see Matador’s Bootcamp within a Bootcamp. Matador is a beast. He went to open this 3set, of mean looking hot asian chicks. I remember thinking "Ha lets see this one". He just kinoplowed these girls with his superalpha game. SUre one of the girls was still bitchy but even she was eating out of his hands after awhile. Picked them up, had them sitting on his lap, kissed all of them…the funny thing was right after each move he would walk away tell us what just happened and turn right back into the set. I dont know how the fuck they didnt see it. At one point they recognized him and one of the girls was trying to point out that he had students watching him…he just paid no mind to them and it was as if it was never said (I thought the spot was going to be blown and the set was over). The 3set became a 4set and of course…he eventually pulled one of them back to the hotel.

The third day we shared our stories and had some more seminar. It was supposed to be over at 7PM but it ended WAY after that. A couple of us had to change our flights. We had Ross Jeffries come in and say a couple of things which was cool. Once again we had the instructors giving us advice and pointing out what they saw us do or not do, and what to work on. Lots of Q & A…what a weekend. This weekend has changed my life. I have seen my mistakes and will now work on them. I learned tons and tons of new things. I’m glad I finally decided to attend a bootcamp…even if it took the playboy mansion as a motivator. I was a little skeptic at first and wondered why did I need the bootcamp if I have the forums plus the books…I now know and dont regret it at all. The weekend will live out in my memory as one of the best weekends I have ever had. These guys are the truth!!

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Program Review Las Vegas Bootcamp, by hrithik, Aug 07

August 15, 2007 by Blitz  
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Here’s my review of the Las Vegas Bootcamp on August 3-August 5. I’m going to split up in a few different sections [Instructors, Seminar, In-field, Personal Experiences, & Tips and Conclusions], with my personal experiences/tips sort of elaborating on the whole experience…it’s probably going to get to be a little long, so get comfortable! I tried to include the types of things that I would’ve found helpful myself when I was trying to decide whether to pay up the price for a bootcamp. If you have any specific questions about the entire workshop, I’m glad to answer them.

So, some background on me: I’m a good-looking guy [as Matador and one of the pivots (who shall remain nameless only because I don’t know if she’d want her real name in here) pointed out to me a few times over the weekend] who doesn’t have too much trouble attracting girls. At the moment, I have a very hot and smart girlfriend who is a year shy of graduating from one of the top nursing schools in the country. However, when it comes to girls, I’ve always felt that I never really took advantage of the opportunities that were presented before me, and as much as I may care about and think long-term with my girlfriend, I can’t help but feel like I’ve missed out on being with other gorgeous girls [I’m only going to be 24 in September]. So, I decided it was time to stop “being lucky”: I had always gotten by with my looks and the natural attractive qualities of my personality when it came to girls, and I’d finally resolved that I didn’t want this to depend on my looks but rather that I wanted to have a much stronger understanding of and much tighter control on how my interactions with girls go as well as how far they go.

I had a good number of questions and concerns about the whole thing, but I feel that Matador and Blitz did a really good job of handling them over the course of about 3-4 months because, well, I finally signed up, right? Originally, I was to do a 1-on-1 with Matador, but due to the legal battle going on with The Mystery Method, Matador was basically unable to meet with me to do it. To show how serious these guys are about delivering on their word, Blitz told me that Matador was offering me a spot at the Mystery Final Tour as well as the agreed-upon original 1-on-1 in Miami for later..who does that?? Ridiculously awesome! Anyways, I was really excited and a bit nervous at this point [the days leading up to the bootcamp weekend]. This just immensely added to the nervousness of actually attending the bootcamp, since I didn’t really know what to expect, and even felt kind of weird going to such measures as attending a class on how to pick up girls. When I first walked into the room, I really had no idea what to expect.

Instructors:

Mystery: From the very beginning, I could sense that Mystery was really passionate about the things he was teaching us. We were all sitting around, waiting for him to make his entrance, and when he finally walked in, he immediately had everyone’s attention; it’s just the command he has, and a certain presence about him – I just can’t describe it in words. One thing I have to say right off is that he was not nearly as extremely peacocked as I’d expected him to be [don’t get me wrong, he still doesn’t dress as conventionally as the rest of us do], considering that he has a whole theory based upon this and that there are enough descriptions and pictures of him to get a pretty accurate physical image of him. He introduced himself, and then proceeded to walk around the room and shake hands with each one of us [he even paused to talk to me about my name and where my family is from]. After spending time in the lecture with him, you feel like you can take on anything. He gave an amazing background in terms of psychology and philosophy mixed in with real-life examples of how these things manifest themselves. The most impressive thing for me was that he had no ego and never talked down to anyone. Honestly, Mystery has a lot of reason to be cocky and condescending [I’ve seen people act much worse for much less of a basis], but he never showed any sign of that kind of attitude; rather, treated each of us as his equals [he even shared with us a big secret that, and he even explained his reasons for having it on the down-low for now, further demonstrating to me that he was on our level, not above]. The other thing about him, needless to say, is that this guy is incredibly smart as well as quite eloquent, and you can’t help but be enchanted with his charm. I feel very privileged to have had the opportunity to not only meet THE man but also to go out and sarge with him, too! It also helped [especially me] that Mystery took some time to explain to us where he started from and how he had to work through literal trial and error to reach his level of success. I could sense at the very beginning from the other students [as well as from myself] that there was a feeling of disparity between the students and the instructors, like “We could never get to be ‘that good…’ ”, and it definitely helped me feel a little more at ease and reach a point of being more relaxed and natural, since it can be kind of awkward to actually be in a seminar to learn how to improve your skills with women, especially with guys who are themselves very successful with women.

Lovedrop: I 1st saw Lovedrop as I was trying to find the room for the Seminar, and he was on his cell phone right outside, and that’s when it kind of really hit me: I’m here, and I’m about to embark on what’s supposed to be a life-changing journey. Lovedrop was really chill in the classroom, and it definitely helped me to be more relaxed with the laid-back kind of vibe. It was great because he was still getting a lot of the information to us, but he was still able to keep it light enough by cracking some jokes so that things weren’t too hardcore and serious. It was also helpful because he went into a good amount of detail on relating the perfect vibe that you need to have to be in the ideal delivery of not only the verbal stuff but even of the non-verbal stuff like body language and voice tonality. He also provided a bunch of useful information, from different routines and the proper usage/delivery to the deeper ideas behind them. I think the dynamic between the instructors was really cool, too, because they were able to feed off each other’s comments and insights as well as throw in each of their own personal nuggets on the other’s lecturing. Lovedrop’s teaching overall was great, because he definitely knows his stuff and could simplify things for us, especially through his analogies. The only negative was that at times, it seemed [to me, at least] that he got a little carried away with the same ideas and ended up getting a bit side-tracked. But, he’d always catch himself and then be back on track.

Matador: Matador was pretty much awesome. I caught up with him after the 1st day’s Seminar portion, where he was standing in the lobby with Lovedrop, Kerr, and “D.” [I’m not sure of his “handle” or if he’d want me to put his real name in here]. I went up to him, and he was immediately warm and friendly, and when I told him who I was [since I had been corresponding with him through phone and email for a few months], he instantaneously reacted as though we were close friends who went way back. He then proceeded to introduce me to the others and provided my background, and had assimilated me into their group, just like that. And this impression was even before I’d had any Seminar or In-Field teaching from him. He wasn’t one of the instructors lecturing on the 1st day, but he definitely made up for it by really delivering on the 2nd day. He has an undeniable presence about him, and yet he is really easy to approach [if you can get past the feeling of not being worthy haha]. Just being physically around him, or even hearing him speak to you, causes you to feel like you can do anything! You feel as though you’ve just had all this deeper-level understanding of social dynamics simply diffused into your own mind. He’s really articulate as well, but he would also ask to turn the camera off and then spout off all kinds of random stories or points that were things that you’d do with “one of the guys” – meaning, despite all this intelligence and super-alpha demeanor, he is still someone you can simply kick it with. I feel like he is not only very passionate about all of this, but he is also very dedicated to it, especially for ensuring that the students have grasped everything that he is trying to get across to us and are able to take as full advantage as possible of his time and expertise; in other words, he really genuinely cares about the students’ comprehension and success. He also always seemed to have TONS of information to give and that there was just not nearly enough time to discuss everything he wanted to tell us. I’m definitely planning to take that 1-on-1 with him as soon as I get back from school, simply because he obviously knows his shit and can get it across to you by breaking things down into a very easy-to-understand way, and I think it helps that he’s only a few years removed from his own bootcamp, so it’s easier for him to relate to the students and thus be a sort of bridge between where the students ARE and where the students want to BE.

 ivots: One really cool thing that we had at this bootcamp was girls. Yeah, I realize that that sounds like a desperate, lame-ass loser-type comment [“Oh, my god!! Girls!!”], but hear me out: I’d never really had female wings before, and it was an awesome thing to experience – it definitely opened my eyes to just how important and helpful girls can be when gaming other girls. Having these pivots definitely had its own advantages, especially because both of them brought their own unique personalities, and they were there for one basic purpose: to help YOUR sets. And trust me, they did one hell of a job! I mean, talk about instant social proof [having girls with you] as well as effortless jealousy plotlines to run while gaming another girl [having girls hang on you]..it makes things almost too easy!!

Kerr: Having Kerr was a nice added benefit, at least for me. He would be in and out of the seminar, but each night, he would join us at the venue, and it was cool to get his extra insight. Especially on the 1st night [which was a sort of “observation night”], he was positioned perfectly at the bar to be able to provide us students a running commentary on what was happening with Mystery’s and Matador’s sets as well as things to watch for [both from them as well as the sets’ reactions]; it was like watching a game on tv and hearing the commentators talk about it..except that in this case, the commentator knew what the fuck he was talking about! On the 2nd night, he was able to catch a bit of one of my sets and gave me some real quick, in-the-moment feedback. Plus, having yet another guy watching us and providing tips and pointers in-field? I’ll definitely take it!

Seminar: Okay, so the web page has this list of all the different things that the bootcamp was going to cover..well, despite my doubts of them being able to do so, they did, in fact, cover every single one of those points! And not just by briefly mentioning it, but rather in such specificity that it was astonishing! Each of the instructors gave us a very detailed, in-depth understanding of the theory that the method itself is based on, plus they supplied us with a ton practical knowledge as well as canned material, to the point that I STILL recall things that were mentioned or discussed, a full week later! I’m still working on trying to internalize everything that we were taught and calibrate things to my own personality. I liked that the format of the Seminar included some interactive parts, whether in the form of certain drills or the asking of questions [personal and otherwise] so that we don’t end up just scribbling down a bunch of information that doesn’t make sense to us when we look back at them a few weeks later; instead, it forced us to take the knowledge we had and apply it to reason things out and make more sense to us in our own minds. I feel that if we hadn’t been so cramped for time, it would have been nice to run through some more of the exercises and activities that were mentioned by Mystery and Matador in the Seminar in order to help us internalize the theory as well as develop a little of our own practical material. Even during the scheduled breaks [which I feel we actually took less of than we were supposed to, because the instructors would lose track of time, which to me was yet another example of their tremendous dedication to their training as well as to the students], the instructors would take the time to answer questions, ranging from all kinds of topics from clarifications to community drama to random topics like music or travel stories [they are normal guys, after all!] and even some pretty outrageous sexcapades [with a lot of the “outrageous” part coming from Matador, like when he pulled a girl and fucked her in an alley behind 7-11 haha]. Even more dedication and passion on the instructors’ part was their willingness to stay past the scheduled times, even when they know we would be cutting things close, simply to ascertain that all the students comprehended all of the concepts that had been covered [since there was a LOT of information to take in, which they knew themselves and kept reassuringly conveying to us]. The only negative thing I have to say is that I wish we could have started earlier in the day or that there were 30 hours in a day or something, because it always felt as though we were running short on time and ended up having to go almost directly from the Seminar to the venue with just enough time to eat and/or shower in between, and I personally would have preferred some time to let my brain recover from the overload as well as to allow all the shit to sink in.

In-Field: For the first night, all of the students were excited to get out into the venue and watch the things we’d learned that day in the Seminar be put into effect by the biggest names in pickup. The main objective for this night was to observe the instructors properly running through sets [their verbal delivery, voice tonality, and most importantly their body language!] and then by the end of the night, to be opening and creating attraction in as many of our own sets as possible, and even push the sets as far as we could until we were literally forced out of them. Unfortunately, the venue itself [the bar inside the lobby of the Hard Rock Hotel] was a little weak [both students and instructors agreed] due to the low number of targets as well as the kind of cramped space of the area itself; however, I think it actually worked out better in the long-run for us because we were all able to watch the instructors without seeming to be leering or anything, plus we weren’t really affected by negative social proof [i.e. a bunch of dudes standing around without many girls] because there weren’t too many girls to begin with. The lack of targets also caused us to overcome sets with some pretty serious bitch-shields and just plow through, regardless of the reactions [and thus experiencing “reaction independence” 1st-hand] since the same girls were being approached by various guys as well as students throughout the night. I think once the students who did do their own sets got into their first couple of sets, it was much easier to start approaching with a more cool and confident attitude, almost trying to see just how badly we could really get blown out and then realizing that things don’t ever really go that badly.

The second night venue showed just how much we’d learned, both the theoretical side in the Seminar as well as the real-life application from being In-Field from the night before. It was good because there was no worry of a bad reaction from a set when opening because the previous night’s experience gave us all a “we’ve all been through the worst of it the night before, how could it be any worse?” kind of attitude: there were plenty of really hot girls around, we were in the VIP section in the club, we knew that our biggest fears of what could go wrong weren’t anywhere near the reality, etc, and it made sets much easier [and much more fun!] to run. The objective for this night was to open, create attraction, and move into comfort [with bounces, time-bridges, and isolations involved], and again push the sets as far as they’d go, ideally closing them one way or another. When comparing our results to this objective, I think that every single one of us had incredible growths in our skill-set as well as overall confidence in approaching and handling sets. The only complaint I’d have about this is that I wish we’d covered some more information in terms of how to perform the different closes in a little more detail so that we could apply them to our sets [if not now, then for later].

Honestly, the In-Field session was nearly flawless! The only real criticism I have about it is I would’ve like having a bit stronger/longer debriefing segment – I think it would’ve been a really good idea to do it with like personalized advice, based on what each of the instructors had witnessed from us.

One thing I must say is that the In-Field portion was just as helpful as I could’ve imagined, and I went into it with high expectations. Most of the time, it seemed like there was always an instructor around, watching me in action [because that was something I was worried about, with 12 students and only a handful of instructors] and able to give me feedback either during or after the set. Having these top-notch instructors with you in the venues helps make it possible to eliminate sticking points and to calibrate as you go, as with me. In other words, it basically raises the level of your game to new heights almost immediately. The other thing that served as yet another example of the whole “above and beyond” attitude that appears to be intertwined with the entire Venusian Arts way of operating was that even though the In-Field portion was supposed to end at 2am, these guys kept opening and running sets late into the night [I think I got back at about 4am both nights], and it wasn’t for themselves: I witnessed Mystery and Matador open tons of sets, many of which they could’ve easily bounced with, but instead they would eject or time-bridge so that they could come back and discuss it with us, then move into the next one. Frankly, I can’t say that I wouldn’t be tempted to just run a couple of sets for myself, but these guys were totally dedicated to their students and showing us how the game is played.

Personal Experiences: In the seminar, I found these things really helpful: On the first day, one really important point that both Mystery and especially Lovedrop emphasized was that the Opener is not that important [like Mystery’s latest involving something as random as Google Earth] but rather it was our delivery [voice tonality and volume] as well as our body language during the Openers that really mattered. We spent a fair amount of time discussing our approaches in the classroom. A big thing for me was Lovedrop’s emphasis on the whole overall ATTITUDE that we need to have rather than actual lines or routines, because again, it’s not what you say but how you say it. He even took it to this whole deeper level of Yin Yang, with plenty of examples of what belongs where [for example, being chill and unreactive vs. being very positive and high-energy], which I think really helped make it sink in better. Lovedrop also provided some exercises that we can use in order to keep our material creative when we’re in sets, and despite being seemingly basic, they are very helpful tips.

On the second day, Mystery’s discussion on building your own identity with all the different levels of achieving your desired identity [and examples of a bunch of cheap and easy things to do to be able to accomplish all this] was just unbelievable! You don’t have to be like Mystery [as in, having plenty of money and celebrity status through your own tv show] or Style [as in, having a ton of money and fame and being on the New York Times best-selling list more than once] – anyone can be whatever or even whoever they ideally want to be. Then, there was Matador, who just broke every single social interaction down to the bare basics, to the point that you sit there like you’re brain is numb, and yet you feel almost stupid for not having seen all this before. Seriously, by the end of the theoretical part of his lecture, I felt like I’d never be able to have just a simple conversation ever again because of all of the insights I gained from him. Then, Matador brought the instruction back to the more specifics in terms of the different phases of the model and provided a plethora of sound bytes for each phase as well as the “goals” of each phase that we are trying to accomplish so that we can then move on into the next one.

On the third day, we reviewed the important points from the previous 2 days and then moved on in our discussion of the model. Unfortunately, I had to leave early and was not able to take full advantage of things [especially because it turns out that they went out again on Sunday night, too]. However, if it’s not apparent by now, I got much more than I could’ve even hoped for out of all of this. We had some added bonuses of having Style talk to us [through Mystery’s phone]. Afterwards, Mystery showed us this cool little program that he really advised that we all use in order to keep our life organized [and obviously, it helps keep the girls sorted, too] and then had a slideshow for us of some of the girls from his life, to give us an idea of all that we can achieve in our lives, and not just from advancing in our skills with females but rather with our overall quality of life.

Out in the field, I tried my best to watch the instructors in their own sets, although I got there late both nights – the 1st night, I simply fell asleep because I’d been tired all week, and the 2nd night, my pizza took too long to arrive [and obviously I didn’t plan to shower and dress up until after I’d eaten]. So basically, I didn’t get to see all the sets that the instructors ran, but what I saw was more than enough to convince me that I at the beginning of what was going to be one hell of a change in my life! I made sure to be watching an instructor at all times on the first night, and it was really awesome because, even though I got there so late, since the instructors went way later, I still got a lot of opportunities to watch the correct execution of all the stuff we’d been learning. It was really cool seeing Mystery work his famous magic [literally and figuratively], and he was taking over just about every group of people while being completely relaxed and chill. I think one of the most important things I saw was Mystery talking to guys, even some who weren’t in sets with any girls, because I’m not afraid to talk to guys in sets but definitely am hesitant to do so [for whatever reason], and it really helped to see how easy and consequence-free it is. Then there was Matador, who was just effortlessly getting attraction from girl after girl after girl! There was one set in particular [that I think Matador had opened and Mystery jumped in as a wing] that was just great to see: the girl who Matador was gaming had a boyfriend..who was RIGHT THERE!! Mystery jumped in and occupied the boyfriend, after Matador had told them he was gay and continued to game her! It was just too funny to even be able to describe! Then they would “switch partners”, which they later explained was a ridiculously easy way to get DHV spikes to your target by having your wing brag for you! For some reason, based on all their tests, it doesn’t come off as bragging if someone else hypes you up. The best thing was, as all of this was taking place, I was standing with Kerr, and he was breaking everything down, play-by-play, and pointing out things to notice and pay attention to. What made this stand out for me was that it really drove home the point that nothing these guys were doing was some unknown, inexplicable phenomenon – in Matador’s words, “It’s all learnable!” By the end of it [because they would game her, then go around and do other sets, then come back to her], Matador made out with her and she slipped her number into Mystery’s palm as she left..and her boyfriend was right there for all of it! It was just unbelievable, but it was only an introduction for the next night.

There was one set that Matador opened while standing with like half the students, and he had this girl and her fat ugly friend hooked almost immediately. He escalated so quickly [another thing that just blew my mind: girls can be escalated MUCH more quickly than you’ve ever thought – Matador’s Kino-Plowing is just RIDICULOUS!!] that he was kissing her on the cheek and then on the lips within minutes of having opened her, all while her fat ugly friend was laughing and asking “Oh my god, what’s going on? She’s never done something like this! What’s wrong with her? Hahahaha”, and she finally dragged her away. I was standing a bit away and was actually where the 2 girls came over to, and the target started talking to this guy [her male cousin or something] and was making a big scene about trying to wipe her mouth and complaining about how weird “that guy” [Matador] was and reapplying her lipstick, and then a few minutes later, she brought the whole thing back up again. I was loving this, because the thing was, at first I thought “Oh man, maybe this shit doesn’t work quite like I was assuming it does…” as I was seeing this girl doing and saying all this, and then I realized that she kept looking back at Matador – despite the fact that she was “totally weirded out” by him and “it was so gross”, she couldn’t stop looking at him [and especially when he would be running game on another chick, she would be blatantly staring with an almost jealous expression on her face!]. Later on, I motioned Matador over and discussed this with him, and he explained that it was a classic example of her anti-slut defense kicking it, trying to save face in front of her friends and cousin, and I agreed, telling him about how she couldn’t stop looking at him for the rest of the night.

A great advantage of being in Vegas was that there were plenty of bachelorette parties around us, and one of them opened me and some students as we were in line for a taxi. It was especially cool because 2 or 3 of the girls were really talkative girls, so it gave us all another opportunity to run through our material as well as work on our calibration depending on the circumstances. The thing about it was that it really helped me realize that in the end, none of the sets that you open really matter – you run so many in 1 night, and the next night is a new night with new sets to run.

The 2nd night venue [Studio 54 at the MGM Grand] was hot! Especially because we got VIP access in the club, which just made things that much sweeter. When I got there, I was watching some of the students [and of course, Mystery and Matador] running some sets, and I wanted to get in on some of the action. I found Kerr, who started talking about game with me [which helped me get into a positive state and feeling like I could open and attract any girl in the club], and then he hooked me onto Matador as sort of his project for the moment since I had some catching up to do [due to my late arrival]. I told Matador to give me sets to do so he could watch me [because I can open sets on my own, but if no one’s watching, what’s the point? I can do that by myself any time]. It was an awesome chance to work one-on-one with Matador – he and I went around and opened like 3 sets to start off, all of which basically fell flat, but it was okay because it was only the warm-up sets that helped me get over the approach anxiety as well as the pressure of having Matador watch me [and I’d rather get shut down on those warm-up sets rather than a set I would want to hook], and then I told him to let me to try to open the sets myself and have him just watch me all the way through. The next couple of sets went pretty well, and it obviously helped boost up my relaxation mentality, and I realized that it doesn’t take much time or effort to get warmed up and be in-state.

I think one of the high sets of the night for me was when Matador and I opened up this hot-ass Asian girl standing with her friends [but not really engaged with the group]. Next thing I know, I’m in the middle of running game [so cool, because it was all “just happening” without me having to really think or over-analyze anything – it was just flowing] while Matador was talking to her friends. Then Mystery appeared out of nowhere, and he joined our group, too. From here, Matador and Mystery would take turns, with one occupying the group [which was a few feet away from me and the Asian girl at this point] and the other observing me and passing me tips along the way as to which routine to move into or giving me feedback on my body language. It was fucking awesome seeing Mystery in my set, especially because I got to watch 1st-hand what was going on and see the routines and the proper delivery, in essence witnessing the method at its best: by the originator himself! Mystery was really cool in my set later on, too, because he would start up a story [like the 1st line or so of a routine], and then he’d pass it on to me to take over from there, which I thought was a pretty tight wing-maneuver. And all the while, he would continue to whisper to me what I should say and do next. One of the best pieces of advice that I got [which I completely forgot: it’s one of those things that I know myself, and yet I still ended up forgetting to do it, and probably wouldn’t have ever realized it if Mystery and Matador hadn’t both pointed it out to me] was to get the introduction with the rest of the group before the obstacles become just that – obstacles. I very quickly won them over, and in the process I disqualified myself by dropping a few negs at the target in front of them. Then, I realized what I had to do next: bounce my target, or at least the whole group, back to the VIP area with me [and this was reinforced by having Matador and Mystery gesture the same idea to me]. We all moved back to VIP, and then I isolated my target on the couch and began running comfort routines on her [and even got in a few quick kisses here and there, trying to remember what I’d seen from Matador the night before – a girl can be kissed in less than a minute of having opened her, if done properly, so I had no excuse not to, right?]. Here was a specific point in time [because there were definitely others] where having a pivot really came in handy – Matador saw that I had the Asian girl isolated on the couch, so he sent over Blitz’s girlfriend to create a jealousy plotline [she came over, leaned across the Asian girl to reach me, kissed me on the cheek, chatted for literally 30 seconds, then kissed me on the cheek again and disappeared], and the effect was instantaneously noticeable! At this point, Kerr totally came in handy here and reminded me of one of the most important pieces of body language information there is [because again, something I know not to do (lean in), I was doing, without even realizing it] – lean back! I had been sitting with my arm wrapped around the girl, but I was leaning into her while talking, and this was brought to my attention by Kerr through a quick lean-back motion, and as soon as I had done this, the girl’s body language slightly changed from real positive to very positive, and I knew at this point that if I wanted, I could probably pull her that night!! All I could think was “thank God Kerr was there to catch such a simple yet critically serious mistake; it’s like the number one body language rule!” Eventually, we went to go check on her friends [who had since wandered their way back outside of the VIP area and wanted to get back in], but one of them wasn’t feeling too good, so we checked on her and then I decided to leave her there [non-neediness] and told her I was going to check on my friends and make sure they were all having a good time [protector of loved ones]. It would turn out later that the hot-ass Asian girl I’d been gaming was one of the dancers at the club!! Even Mystery was quite impressed with the ass on her when she was up on the mini-stage in her thong! Haa

Another interesting bit from this that it totally reinforced to me that a few instructors can handle 12 students – when I was reaching comfort with the Asian girl and looking around to make sure that there was an instructor watching so I could try to get feedback later, and [like I already mentioned], Matador was right there to create some jealousy with the pivot, then Kerr was there to remind me of one of the most important rules of body language, and even Mystery was sitting directly in front of me, just chilling and gaming this really cute Asian waitress while watching me game my Asian girl. Like I said, it did put at ease my worries about being watched and made it clear to me that obviously these guys were making sure to keep track of each student and to watch them in action.
Another high point for me was just chatting with Mystery about various things, the most important one being the game and just how deep and subconscious the whole thing is and all the different ways it manifests itself in everyday life. I already said this before, and it should be pretty apparent anyways, but this guy is just ridiculously sharp! I mean, he not only has figured out a girl’s innate hard-wiring, but he has explored things to such a deep level that he’s literally figured out social dynamics altogether!

Now, the single greatest event of the whole bootcamp: Matador making out with not just 1 or 2, not even just 10 or 12, but SIXTEEN DIFFERENT GIRLS!!!! Like, are you fucking kidding me?? I know you’ve got to be thinking that, because I was [and still am!], and I saw it all happen right in front of my eyes!! And these girls were fucking HOTTT!! I’m not going to sit here and describe each one of them, but the highlight of the highlight was when we had left the club and were all hanging out near the lobby, there was this 4set of girls who Mystery and Matador pulled into our group and began gaming, and within a few minutes, Matador was kissing one of them in front of another one, then he turned to her, said some random shit, and then kissed her, too [in front of the first girl]. A few minutes later, Matador made his way to the other 2 girls that Mystery was gaming, and they basically switched girls, and then Matador put on an encore presentation: in the same way as before, he was kissing the first girl within a few minutes, and then he proceeded to kiss the second girl while the first girl watched. To be honest, I couldn’t stop laughing: this had to be one of the most amazing things I have ever seen in my whole life, and definitely so when it comes to gaming girls. As it turns out, 3 of the 4 girls were taken [I think they were married, and 1 of them was a few weeks pregnant], and yet here was Matador literally making out with them in the middle of the hotel…unfuckingbelieveable!!! Later on, we were outside of the hotel just chilling, none of us really wanting to actually leave and go back [and thus ending our night], and as luck would have it, two of the girls came outside with some guy [as it turns out, the guy was the husband of the recently-pregnant girl]. When I realized this, I decided to send Matador over to get the one girl who was with her husband, and he was all about it. He went over, hugged her, and planted a long kiss on her cheek/lips..RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER FUCKING HUSBAND!!! It was priceless to see the expression on the guy’s face as some random dude comes up and starts kissing his wife – the guy got totally TOOLED! It was shocking to see a dude get AMOGGED so hard right in front of me, and it really helped me to see that most of the time, they can’t/don’t do shit..I mean, this was his fucking wife, and he just stood there [and by the end of that interaction, the four of them had walked into the lobby and were chatting it up, as though nothing out of the ordinary had just happened..unbelievable!]. Like I said, I could go on and on about this jaw-dropping feat of 16 make-outs in a span of only a few hours, but there’s no way I could possibly capture how ridiculously mind-blowing it was to witness all of this! The students and I were just standing there, amazed at how all this had just happened – it was simply an awesome display of ridiculous social authority; it was almost absurd how easily and naturally he had [and continued to] pull this dominance off all night long.

A little off-topic, but I caught up with Matador Monday night [after the premiere of “The Pickup Artist”], and I thought that was really cool of him, since he’s no longer obligated to do anything because the bootcamp is now over, and yet here he was, being all chill with me [like I mentioned earlier, treating me like an old friend]. He told me that he was feeling pretty good about the whole show and all, and off-handedly mentioned that he’d ended up pulling on that Sunday night [when I had to leave early to catch my flight]. A few days before this, I would’ve been a bit skeptical, but after having seen these guys [Mystery, Kerr, and especially Matador] in action that weekend, it would’ve been as difficult to believe that he hadn’t pulled!

Tips and Concluding Thoughts: So, the quick conclusion: I was very surprised and impressed at all of our improvements over the span of only a weekend. I’d figured that obviously there must be some strong results on the part of most of the students from the past since the reviews have been so favorable, but I was still pretty skeptical about how much insight we could possibly gain in a span of really only like 40 hours of combined total time. I think that we were lucky in our group because no one really needed to be pushed to approach [don’t get me wrong: many of us had approach anxiety, we just got over it because it was like “I don’t know any of these people in this club, I’ll never see them again if I mess up or embarrass myself, and I paid a butt-load of money to be here!”], so a number of us actually got to do much more on the 1st night than is usually expected. The only thing that I personally didn’t like about that was that I didn’t get to watch the instructors in all of the sets that they ran, but eh, what are you going to do [especially since it was my own fault for being late]? I feel that I got to watch them enough to learn from their example and behavior, the biggest thing being their BODY LANGUAGE…this is HUGE!
Another thing that struck me about this was that you really can open with whatever opener you want [Lovedrop had joked about this in Seminar portion and reminisced about this time in Australia that he’d opened a few sets discussing the fact that their currency has a picture of the queen on it, and the sets had still hooked], but I got a demonstration first-hand: on the 1st night, Matador was opening sets by literally yelling at a girl and telling her to come to him..and it worked like every single time! And he’d just take it from there [don’t get me wrong, sometimes the target would verbally be pushing him away, and yet she would never actually end the interaction by walking away or anything].

Some tips that I’d recommend to keep in mind that helped me out would be to definitely seek instructors out: remember, as cool as the instructors are, in the end, you’ve paid for them to be there and to basically have access to their knowledge and skill as well as experience, and so you have to be a true and almost greedy customer-type who’s trying to get all out his buck [ex: ask as many questions as you want, follow the instructors to watch them in action (since they are the professionals), find them to ask them for feedback/answers, have them break-down an instructor’s or another student’s set as it’s happening in front of you (i.e. what they’re doing right, what they’re doing wrong, what could be better, etc.), grab them to watch you in-field, etc].

Going with the same idea of being a very eager customer, be sure to make the most of the time that you have, since it’s only a single weekend. For example, as I mentioned before, I stayed out each night after we were officially done to watch the instructors doing their own thing because, the way I saw it, I did pay to be there, and so I should try to get the most out of it [they’re going to be doing their sets, anyway, so I might as well watch and learn (like Matador's "Alpha Caveman" thing - can't even describe how fucking cool yet easy it is!)!], especially since I hadn’t gotten to see them as much as I would’ve liked due to my late arrival.

Another tip that I found quite helpful was this: you go out and keep opening sets and running your material and, similar to a video game, you just start over with a new set if things don’t go too well, or even for the mere practice of it. Similar to this was the insight that some girls are just bitches, so they’re going to act like bitches..basically, not everyone goes out to meet new people or whatever, so some will be more hostile than others: the important thing is to NOT take this personally, as it is NOT a rejection of YOU as a person [since they don’t even know anything about you at this point in time] – it is a reactionary rejection based on all the thousands of times she has been approached throughout her lifetime. [A much-shortened story exemplifying this: Matador had been going on his streak, and the obstacle in one set (whose target he’d already made-out with) completely freaked on him! She started yelling at him to not touch her, and he continued being playful, but she just got more and more bitchy, and next thing we knew, she had her hand wrapped around his neck, trying to choke him!! Needless to say, Matador got into trouble (along with one of the students), and a side-note observation was seeing Matador bend and twist social interactions in order to ensure that he was treated fairly instead of the initial reaction of the security (typical sleazy drunken guy going too far with an innocent female), and of course seeing the video footage of their interaction helped to clear things up, too. Bottom line: the girl was non-social and just plain crazy].

 One thing that I found helpful in terms of the debrief was that I spent time after getting back to the hotel each night [after the Seminar portions, too, but especially after the In-Field portions] and reviewed my notes from earlier in the Seminar as well as applying them to my own thoughts and insights from the events of the night. I feel that this really helped to speed up my progress and to solidify all the concepts we had been learning throughout the weekend-long process. By the end of it, I felt as though I was seeing glimpses of things like the Matrix [the whole green numerical lines, etc]: in my own sets, I could see everything happening and knew why it was happening, what led up to it, and where things were going at that point; basically, the whole structure of the interactions was unfolding right before me, and I know that I owed this major amplification in such a short span of time to the instructors as well as the time and effort I had been putting in on my own [for example, the reviewing of my day-notes and the making of new night-notes]. Speaking of notes, make sure to take plenty of them! And also save them, because they make for a very good reference in the future [and they are, in the end, thousands of dollars worth of notes!].

All in all, over the span of one weekend, I was very thoroughly exposed to an in-depth and detailed psychological philosophy coupled with a simply incredible technology that breaks down social dynamics into such simple patterns that it was just outrageous, and it was simply an amazing experience…this is what makes Mystery’s method truly so amazing: it doesn’t matter what your natural style is, because as long as you are hitting the necessary Attraction Switches, the set is always on! I never knew that this type of skill that I had witnessed the instructors displaying [as well as experienced from my own application] could be learned or developed, much less in such a small amount of time. Hearing these guys talk and seeing them in action, I wasn’t sure how closely I could duplicate their results, but they certainly opened my eyes to what was possible with a sufficient amount of time and dedication to the art of attracting and seducing women.

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Program Review for Las Vegas Bootcamp, by StoryyTeller, Aug 07

August 15, 2007 by Blitz  
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Alrighty, here is my review of the Las Vegas Bootcamp with Mystery, Lovedrop, Matador, Hawaii, and Neo (and Blitz and the wing-women):

Day 1 (in class) : Outstanding

Started on time with Mystery. He is friendly, personable and a very articulate speaker.

I had already read the book twice and watched the DVD’s several times so most of the information was review for me.
There were of course, updated and new distinctions to be learned.

For example;
Peacocking raises the probability of being seen - thus if you are peacocking, you must establish pre-selection as soon as possible. Otherwise you will be "seen" as a lonely loser, thereby losing all the benefits of peacocking.

One of the main benefits for me was learning how to "cope with the fear of the approach."
1. You have permission to fear the approach - it’s normal.
2. Go ahead and "wreck the set" - it’s just practice.
3. "Crash and Learn"

Lovedrop did a great presentation on Emotions, Delivery, and Non-Reactive Attitude. This was an outstanding talk - I took tons of notes. Most of it was new material that I hadn’t read in the book or seen on the DVD’s.
Here are a few tidbits from my notes:
- be unaffected by hot chicks because it lowers your value
- critical mistake: reacting to girls - they perceive your self-perception of lower value
- It isn’t the routine that gets the results, it’s the delivery
- When girls see that you are unaffected, they feel attraction - because of your self-perceived relative value
- High value guys don’t try to impress
- Outcome: get practice - stop caring about getting laid
- Embrace rejection - avoiding rejection is for pussies
- etc…

Night 1 : Demo Night at the club

Matador demo’ed the "alpha-kino-caveman" character. To me it appeared over-aggressive and not my style. He did a great job of shifting my perception the next day and night (read on…).

Lovedrop was the quintessential coach, describing every move that Mystery made (from a polite distance), and correcting my newbie patterns (talking to fast, leaning in, forgetting to lock-in, etc.). He really is an outstanding social-scientist who can quickly assess and deconstruct social interactions.

Mystery was approaching, conversing, hugging (going kino) with many females. I didn’t stand close enough to hear what he was saying because it just feels weird to me to stand that close - but Lovedrop explained what he was doing.

I opened about 7 sets on my own (one set opened me). Made a bunch of mistakes. Really learned the value of "warm-up sets."

Day 2 (in class) : Opened with Mystery for an hour or 2, then Matador for the rest of the day.

Regarding Matador, it was quite interesting to see an intellectual social-scientist speaking to us during the day after witnessing the "alpha-kino-caveman" from the night before.

I expressed my concern that the caveman character seemed overly aggressive and a little rude to the women. He helped me to shift my perspective by pointing out a few things:
1. He is constantly calibrating, testing for tension, and releasing and rolling-off when he feels it.
2. No one is forcing the women to stay and talk to him. They can walk away anytime they want.
3. If they didn’t like what he was doing, they would leave. Therefore, they must like it.

Later that night (in the club), he re-demonstrated even more dramatically by calling our attention "hey guys, right now, watch this, (alpha-caveman demo), see it’s that easy." Sure enough, the women didn’t leave, they stuck around for more of the same. This was very valuable for me.

At the end of Day 2 (in class), Matador set our goal for the night to be 1 makeout session. He asked if we were ready. I said "Hell no, I’m scared shitless." Then I remembered Mystery’s advice from the previous day; don’t be afraid to wreck the set, crash and learn.

Night 2 (at the club):

We had a VIP table. Matador did an endless stream of "alpha-kino-caveman" demos - which totally shifted my whole perspective.

Lovedrop continued to watch me in-set and provided post-set analysis of what I did right and where to improve.

I went into my social-dancing role (which I mastered many years ago), and eventually got my make-out session with a cute married woman. When I went for the kiss, she said "I’m married" - to which I responded "Hey, I’m not going to fuck you right here on the table." We started making out. A few minutes later her friends came and took her away. It was fun. When I told Matador that I got my make-out, he said that he had done 9 so far - so I went off to open some more sets (practice, practice, practice).

Day 3 (in class):

- More comprehensive theory from Matador (hoops, neg theory, group theory, specific gambits, micro-calibration, shared projects, archetypes, etc.) - I already knew most of this from the book and DVD’s, but it was great to be able to ask questions in an interactive format.

- Another great presentation from Lovedrop which covered Evolutionary Value Switches, Emotional Relevancy in Story Telling, Bait Hook Reel Release, Conversational Rapport, Building Comfort and Trust, Displaying Vulnerability, and a couple new routines.

- Mystery got us on the phone with Style (author of The Game), and provided a lot of motivation to continue practicing by showing us pictures of the results he has achieved - he made my goals seem very real and achievable (hell, if a tall skinny guy who didn’t lose his virginity till he was 21 can get hot chicks, then so can I). He also demo’ed some cool mind-mapping software that helps to keep the social life organized.

Night 3 : bonus extra night

The seminar is advertised with 2 club nights but we did 3. I have no idea if this is normal or if they just felt like going out again.

I gave Matador a run for his money, dancing with lots of cool girls - BTW, this is a great wingman tactic to occupy obstacles.

Lovedrop, once again watched me in set and provided exceptional coaching:
- slow the fuck down, talk slower
- lean back
- don’t make your hoops to big (move her 10 feet away before trying to promenade the club)
- when you are in the club, go on instinct - don’t try to remember everything you learned in class because the analysis will fuck you up - fall to your level of training.
- be the cool, unaffected rich guy who is having a good time no matter what happens

He also sent in a wing-woman to provide social-proof at a key moment in one of my sets - it worked great - thanks!

BTW, the 2 wing-women were great. They made it really easy to social-proof the room right off the bat. It is a lot easier to open sets when you have pre-selection.

Towards the end of the night I was having a great time dancing with a little hottie. I almost wrecked the set but managed to salvage a number close. I left before I could fuck it up beyond all repair. She must have liked me because we did a "Day 2" the very next day. We had a great time, but I failed to give here enough "plausible deniability" to spend the night with me. Oh well - crash and learn…

Day 4 : brief wrap-up with Neo and Matador

Matador debriefed and answered any remaining questions before handing over to Neo.

Neo covered LMR (last minute resistance) - cool guy.

One of the great things about Neo is that he is short - which proves that you don’t have to be tall to get girls.

I already knew most of the LMR theory from the book and DVD’s. But one new distinction that I did get from Neo is this:
Fundamentally, a woman needs to feel that she has the option of keeping you around the next day.

Overall : Time and money well spent. I would do it again (and probably will). Highly recommended.

Cheers,
__________________
—StoryTeller

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Program Review for Lovedrop by Soul, Chicago Bootcamp, Aug 07

August 14, 2007 by Blitz  
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I came out to Chicage not knowing what to expect. I’d been working solo for a year and this was going to be my first workshop experience. I understood that through the course of the weekend a lot of new concepts would be thrown our way. It became obvious to me that the instructor would have a difficult job making the material interesting and understandable. That being said, Lovedrop did not dissappoint. He knew his stuff from background evolution to the various techniques used by RSD, Speed Seduction, Cocky Funny and of course, The Venusian Arts.

On Saturday evening, with my newly aquired knowledge, I successfully opened 4 out of 5 sets. The highlight occured when I got a hostess so interested after a CT - IOD combo, that she threw ice at me from a cooler, begging me to continue a palm reading after I had hand tossed and walked away!

Overall, I had a great time, but this is just the begining. I’m heading back to another Conference and hopefully I’ll see you guys there.

Cheers,
Soul

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Program Review for LA Bootcamp, by Artisan, Jul 07

August 14, 2007 by Blitz  
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A unique experience to see the stars who started it all! I went to the LA bootcamp somewhere around Sept. of 2007 and found the whole 3 days of my stay, quite insighting! I benefited alot from the lectures and EVEN MORE from the answers they gave me! Hearing from all the instructors you definately get to see each of the masters’ own style of pick up, and if anyone can say peacocking, well all 3 instructors make that look like nobody’s business! Judging by observing how they talk and teach I could easily tell, Matador was the dominant alpha-male like artist who mixes his rock-star image with a straight dominant attitude, Lovedrop was the playful, friendly, popular, social, and young in heart artist, Mystery well of course from his image is kind of a mix of playful, dominant, and mysterious, nuff said for his part. For all those curious about what a bootcamp is like, let me break it all down for you of what happened day by day…

Day 1: Everyone is introduced to the instructors and each other. The day consists of generally the narrow basics like female psychology, what openers are and an IMPORTANT overview of HOW TO ACTUALLY OPEN (not only is the line taught, the PROPER BODY LANGUAGE is shown, and trust me, it doesn’t look hard but delivering the line and body language properly at the same time isn’t a cake-walk) along with further A phase stuff. You do go out at Day 1 and get to see the instructors do their thing

Day 2: THe nitty gritty happens here! A fast overview and break down of what happened last night is discussed, I believe micro-calibration thoroughly emphasized (once they explain it, you won’t need to memorize the perfect come-back for every shit-test she gives you, AND you’ll know how to make your own negs and teases PROPERLY)
A2, A3, and some C phases are thoroughly explained, a bunch of the instructors’ personal routines and sound-bites are said throughout the whole discussion. You do go out on Day 2, but this time YOUR APPROACHING

Day 3: Final day, again an overview and break down of all interactions are briefly told, Mystery holds court for a long time in the C2, C3 to S phases, a the S phases. You learn so some important concepts and material that i can’t seem to find in the VAH anywhere! Definately a big insight on story-telling and various versions of the stock stories told in their ACTUAL REAL FORM (they’re much more richer in quality), and well after last remainding questions are answered, class is dismissed

(side note: yes there are breaks in between and all 3 instructors are more than happy to answer your questions, it seemed that EVERY DAY we probably went 2 hours over the scheduled ending b/c of extended teaching with Q&A, a live practice is done where the instructors will critic your opening body language and delivery, BRING A LAPTOP FOR NOTES!!! Yes they do critic your fashion too so make sure to dress like how you’d dress normally to get an honest review, it’s wise to have already read the VAH however that is not required but recommended b/c they go beyond that book, and lastly if you got questions always ask cause they’re giving you the top notch answers.

Well hope this helps

-Artisan

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Program Review for Mystery & Matador by Vesalius, NYC Bootcamp, Jul 07

July 20, 2007 by Blitz  
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I took the NYC boot camp this past weekend (July 13-15) with mystery and matador. It was amazing. I read "the mystery method" and VAH a few months ago but there’s so much more that was said. Watching them in field was definitely a treat but they gave so much live feedback they would literally stop you in the middle of the set and make comments. I would definitely reccomend the bootcamp.

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Testimonial for Matador by Tredd

July 4, 2007 by Blitz  
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Hes a really quality dude. You can see it that way he runs the forum for us. He seems to generally give a shit about the community and doesnt mind chatting with us on a regular basis. Cudos to the Matador. We appreciate you!

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Program Review for Matador by jBrett, NYC Lair Seminar, Jul 07

July 4, 2007 by Blitz  
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The lair has had a lot of great speakers over the years and I’m not sure there has ever been such an overwhelming turnout for a meeting as when Matador came this past Sunday. The line ran all the way through the hall to the elevators where I stepped out, and people were traveling all the way from Philadelphia to hear the speech.

Enough spicing it up. Matador offer 90 minutes of QUALITY information on that week’s topic: calibration. He took questions from anyone and everyone, and was enjoying his own presentation time so much that he wanted to continue past his alotted time he needed to be politely cut off for a break. Next was the round table discussion, and when most presenters push their product and ditch for this portion of the meeting Matador stayed for an additional hour AND stuck around to greet people at the end. For a guy who’s got a lot of things on his table he was generous with his time and everyone could see he really cares about making a difference in everyone’s game. I told him personally he was one of the best speakers I have ever seen at the lair.

Thanks again for the lair presentation.

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Matador at Project Miami by Nitro

June 16, 2007 by Blitz  
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Day 1

I met Matador this past week end in Miami. One of the many bridges in Miami do have pink light on it. It look so
cool. I’m from Montreal so being in south beach just a block away from the beach and the nightlife was a blast for me.

10:00pm I met Matador and his entourage at this hotel/lounge in south beach. I can’t remember the name but there
were a lot of hot cool cars outside and the girls inside were smoking hot, I even saw 2 or 3 11s. We were hanging out by
the pool. I opened a 2 sets then Matador come in. The girls were all over him, after a couple of minutes Matador was
talking to another set behind him. I didn’t noticed that until I felt his girl hugging me from behind. she was probably
dying of jealousy and wanting to make him jeoulse too. After a couple of minutes we went sat down on a couch next to the
pool.

After a couple of minutes of talking and vibing Matador joined us and it was comfort building for the most of the time.
It seemed that We were talking for a couple of minutes but the bouncer were already starting to kick peoples out so we
did talked hours and it only felt like a couple minutes! Matador proposed to go the mansion and structured the extraction
so the girl can feel comfortable doing it. I was taking a lot of mental notes at that point. It was so brilliants how
he framed the hole thing for the girls and made them comfortable leaving with us.

We were outside the club waiting for some friends. Matador continued building comfort and wow. It was really some
hardcore game there. His comfort building and DHV’s are powerful and smooth. His verbale game can get the 10s and his
lifestyle keep them. After some time the girls proposed to take her car to drive to project Miami.

We joined the rest of the boys in project Miami and there was 5 other girls. I thought they were old friend of speer and
the guys but it was not. One girl who I talked to told me that she and her friends met speer and the guys the same
night. Matador girl came and sat down next to me so I looked over for Matador, He was talking to
one of the girl who was there. It’s weird how jealousy work on women and how it affect them. Matador knew about it and he
was using it at will.

The girls were getting more touchy and grabby in the mansion. I was in the kitchen talking to one of the girls and saw
Matador talking to his girl. The vibe of the interaction between him and his girl was clearly different. The seduction
phase was close. I took a glace of water and Matador was gone with his girl. I went to the couch, took my girl by the
hand and went to a quite place behind a closed door. It was fun and I didn’t slept that much.

Day 2

I met Matador and some of the guys at this after hour club. Different kind of venue and different kind of game.
I saw Matador talking to this blonde. I couldn’t hear much but Matador was leaning back on the bar and she was
leaning in toward him. At one point he putt his sunglasses on her eye and started to talk to the stunning bartender. She
stayed little bit then went dancing with her friend not far. I saw her a couple of time looking toward Matador. she would
look at Matador, take his sunglasses and put them on her eye, dance a little bit and then
take his sunglasses look at them again and then put them back on her eyes. She done that a couple of time, It was
so weird to watch. I can’t read minds but it was obvious what her mind what occupied by and who she was thinking of
when she played with Matador sunglasses.

I opened some sets but I couldn’t hook any set. Rolling with cool guys and who are aware of the social matrix
is really important. The possibility are illimited, It’s all words and perceptions and Matador showed perfect mastery
of this skill. He was always 2 or 3 steps ahead of what was going to happened. He was telling me what he’s going to do
and what to expect and 10sec later he would be doing what he said and getting what he wanted. It was an awesome learning
experience. I’m going probably to model his game for a couple of weeks until I get my own game and style going on. The game
is an art form and a way of self-expression and it showed when Matador was performing.

We were getting ready to leave and Matador wanted his sunglasses back. The blond took that as an invitation to leave
with Matador and she wanted to invite her friend to. The blonde friend didn’t wanted to come and she was trying
to pull her friend as well but it was too late the blonde was in love.

We walked to this after hour bar, Miami never sleep. Matador continued building comfort. I had the
chance to hear his game this time since it was a bar and the music was not loud. The blonde friend joined us
in the bar and was starting to try to pull her friend again. Matador handled her with finesse and class and she had no
choice then leaving her friend enjoying the company of Matador. After a while we left the bar to the mansion.

What I saw in the cab and outside the mansion was really a unique thing. The Blonde was talking so fast and qualifying herself
really hard. She was selling and qualifying herself in the most baltant way that you can imagine. She was saying
some crazy shit about herself and what she can do, she was spitting her soul out. I stoped listening after a couple of
minutes since she was reapeting herself. Matador later explained to me why he let her talk instead of cutting her off
and going on something else.

I stayed until the vibe of the interaction changed. The seduction phase was close it’s a deja vu. I was getting tired
and I had to pack my stuff to fly back to Montreal. I took a short nap before heading to the airport.
I saw the cool purple bridge again this time it was from the sky. Miami is great.

Nitro

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Program Review for Mystery & Matador by Labrador, Toronto Bootcamp, Jun 07

June 15, 2007 by Blitz  
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‘With great power comes great responsibility’
Before going to Toronto a friend of mine said: ‘Hey, why are you doing that ? - isn´t everything on the internet ?’. My answer: ‘Why did you went to a MBA ? Isn`t everything on the internet ?’. That`s the point. Meeting these guys made all the difference.
Talking a litle bit about myself: I had some relationships before, in fact I dated models, had long term relationships with women from TV (more than one), women with 2 college degrees (more than one), and so on. So I only take 3A girls (Smart, Pretty and Interessant). But I had two problems:

  • First: I want A threesome. Opss, THE threesome.
  • Second: All the women I met basically was on my social circle


… and guess what ? There was not women in my social circle who wants a threesome, at least not 3As or at least it was what I tought.
I`m from Brazil and this bootcamp was very expensive and very complicated to me. But it worth. I have a dream and will pay its price.
I always heard that what is important is not WHAT you said to a woman, but HOW you say it. Maybe it sounds pretty obvious for you, but for me it`s the first time that I really saw it. Really felt it. Really understand it.
For me, more than learning techniques, this bootcamp showed me how is the behavior of a sucessfull guy. How easy is to open a set and work it without any special "secret weapon". I had a hughe problem opening sets… and I`m working hard on it.
But on the first night I opened a set. Exactly as it should be done…. working on my autopilot… 3 second rule, right angle, started with the guy (1 guy and 2 girls… "lead the men and the women will follow you" - Mystery), isolate the girls, negged the targed, give DHVs, and FTCs (not so false, because I really want just open and go out to stay with Neo, my field instructor that day).
And you know what ? It just worked wonderfull ! ! ! - I just walked around and then saw the girl just on my side… first trying to talk to another guy… trying to create some jealousy (how cute….) and then she started to talk with my friend… with that "Oh, you here, what a coincidence !".
I walked around again, and she followed me again.
At least, I was taking another "sightseeing" and she came to me and asked to stay with her friends at her table… well, I saw Neo, Matador and Mystery in action, so it was time for some rest.
Bytheway seh gave me her telefone number, and from her friend also, you know ‘just for shure’ that I will be able to contact her.
I NEVER tought it could be possible. At least not for me.
On the second day, I tried to open a set, not on the autopilot but "consciously"… I made everything wrong… So I take my Brazil shirt and my hat and just walked around see the guys working the sets… the gurus and the students… see the PUA engines working…. And you know what ? Even this way it worked… I was opened, more than once, and one time for a so hot blonde girl wanting to see my hat… I just tought myself "I`m dreaming…" - and obvoulsy I also tought: "Hey this peacock theory really works… my friends will never say that my hat is stupid anymore !!!"
And that`s what the bootcamps and all the Mystery material done to me…. Something is different… a lot of small things… I`m just doing better with women now. Women is just opening me. I go out and see girls coming near to me, waiting to be opened. Doing things to say: "hey, we are here, open us". Sometime I speak or dance with a girl and as I abandon the set I just saw then following me… wanting more.
I just remember that stupid frase from the old lady from spiderman: "With great power comes great responsibility"
I`m scared and happy from what is happening to me.
About the instructors: Mystery opened every set he saws. The man is a "open set machine". Matador pushes hard, he wants results and is very agressive on the field ("we don`t take prisioners" policy) and Neo is very attentious.

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Program Review for Hawaii by FireFox, Las Vegas Bootcamp, May 07

June 6, 2007 by Blitz  
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First off, I’ve got to say I had an amazing weekend in Las Vegas with my wing, Mode. The energy of this amazing weekend was also greatly influenced by none other than Hawaii. Who, not only was a great teacher, but also just a great guy to hang with.

As our instructor, Hawaii broke everything down into smaller bite size pieces so that things were easier to swallow when we started to notice our sticking points. Not to say that Mode and I are gurus, but we’ve both had our fair share of field experience and exposure to literature on the subject of pickup. What really helped open my eyes was when Hawaii helped not only see us see our fail points but also how to remedy them in a snap. It was great working with Hawaii because it made me realize how far I’ve already come and that I actually have a lot of great qualities and natural game that just aren’t normally apparent to me.

The lecture portion gave me a nice stack of notebook pages full of material to use whenever I need something to fall back on. I also learned a lot in regards to body language and how I present myself.

This brings us to the in-field portion. After opening some demo sets, Hawaii let us loose in the field on our own. He definitely helped lower my approach anxiety by putting me on the spot and opening set after set after set. Still…looking back, I didn’t flow enough and open enough sets, but that’s just my personal opinion. According to him both Mode and I controlled things very well. I feel my energy and game have improved tremendously since the boot camp, and I feel like I have a new outlook on improving my game. Thanks Hawaii!

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Program Review for Hawaii by Mode, Las Vegas Bootcamp, May 07

June 4, 2007 by Blitz  
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Having some field experience already, I was debating wether I should take a boot camp. However, I’ve always wanted to take a Venusian Arts boot camp. So I went with my intuition and signed up with my wing Firefox for a boot camp in Las Vegas instructed by Hawaii.

Taking this boot camp was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. His instruction of the Venusian Arts was on point and gave us the right tools for the field. Also I have to say Hawaii is amazing to watch in field. The first night we met up with Hawaii, we entered the venue and he was already sitting with a cute brunette and laying the mack down. We watched him run some demo sets and it was great to see him take command of them effortlessly. After that, it was our turn to play.

And from then on, he pushed our limits on many challenging sets and pointed out what we needed to correct. He critiqued us on about everything, which was great motivation for us to improve. I definitely learned more than I expected over that weekend.

Also Hawaii is not only a great instructor but a cool guy to hang out with. It was as though he was one of the guys. The boot camp was a fun experience and definitely worth it.

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Program Review for Lovedrop by Relentless, Sydney Bootcamp, Apr 07

April 23, 2007 by Blitz  
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Hey Guys,

I attended the Sydney bootcamp from the 13th to the 15th of April 2007, and after reading some pretty dirty reviews of another company’s bootcamps, thought I’d throw my own experiences into the ring. I won’t mention the daytime segments of the bootcamp, because anyone can buy the Venusian Arts handbook and read it themselves (albeit without the personal input of the VA instructors, which was great).

What I will mention is the in-field segment of the bootcamp, because that’s where the value lies. For eleven hours spread over two nights, we were out practicing the application of the material we’d been learning during the day, under the watchful eyes of the instructors.

The first night started with me making a few approaches to get into that special place. My first approach was especially funny, because after I ejected and went back to Moxie to see what he thought, he took me back over to the set, locked himself in and explained to me in front of the girls the purpose of locking in. That’s the sort of tutoring that seems awkward, but is totally priceless (not to mention the unintentional comedy of the girls’ confused facial expressions).

The pattern continued all night: making approaches, ejecting, getting critique, and then going back in. We got to see the instructors make several approaches from afar, which was great, because I’d never seen an attractive women dance like a monkey (not literally). But the best part was when the instructors started to wing us; coming into the set when we looked like we were beginning to lose value and helping us out. It’s a great way to see the game played from close range without looking creepy, and it was an incredible learning experience. Not only can you hand over to the instructors; studying their verbal and body language and interjecting with your own stuff along the way, but you can have them there watching you, and literally giving advice to you out aloud (“stand up straight”, “lean back”, “talk louder”), which again sounds awkward, but the girls never even seemed to notice (and besides; if they did, fuck it). Highlight of the first night: getting a phone number and a kiss from a 26 year old Polish student after Moxie and I opened her with a conversation about….salad. It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it!

The second night was much the same, except with the added application of that day’s daytime seminar (which covered A2&3). I was being instructed by Metro (Moxie’s wing, from what I understand), and I spent all night practicing locking into seated sets (which was pretty good fun) and just generally refining the various aspects of my A’s game, with Metro’s great help. The two highlights of the night: Metro applying the “bullshit baffles brains” mantra to steal a girl’s seat and leave her standing in the passageway looking totally none-the-wiser while he chatted up her still-seated friends, and watching Lovedrop and Moxie double-team a three (or four?) set by doing Borat impersonations (Seriously. Their kung-fu is so strong, they could probably shit in the girls handbags and still fuck them later on).

I think there is something in the bootcamp for everyone, regardless of that person’s skill. Having some of the best guys in the game teaching you almost one-on-one how to get better was so powerful, it literally changed my life. You can study the material as many times as you like, but without understanding the application you may as well visit a brothel instead of a club. Lovedrop, Moxie, Metro and London Playboy gave me such a fast-tracked education of the Venusian Arts that I have to recommend the bootcamp to everyone. If you can’t afford the cost, mortgage your house. It’s that good.

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Testimonial for Matador by SD, Los Angeles

April 22, 2007 by Blitz  
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I have to admit I was skeptical as to how effective MM would be at first, but ended up a true believer after seeing Matador in the field the first night out. He consistently hooked every set and managed to salvage a 3-set that I stalled on and turn it into a textbook sarge. Within five minutes, one girl was sitting on his lap and her two friends were leaning in, slack jawed, gushing IOIs. It was like some Jedi mind trick shit. The guy is that good. It was inspiring to see what is possible once your game is solid.

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Testimonial for Mystery by G.G., Carlsbad, CA

April 22, 2007 by Blitz  
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Savoy and Mystery are about as different as two 6′5 geniuses can get. Music, hobbies, styles, interests, taste in women, views on relationships, everything. But they both understand social dynamics and they’re both amazing. I would have been lucky to have had one of you teaching me. Having you both there was unreal. Thanks!

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Testimonial for Mystery by Ted, New York City

April 22, 2007 by Blitz  
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Before I learned the Mystery Method, I assumed that I would simply be learning sleezy lines to trick girls into liking me. But the class surprised me; Mystery taught us from the perspective of an Evolutionary Biologist. We learned how women think differently than men do and what attracts women. Before I took his class, I told him that if his techniques can help a guy like me attract women, they must really work. Well, they must really work.

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Testimonial for Mystery by Kjell

April 22, 2007 by Blitz  
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Being not of age to enter clubs with alcohol, I was unable to attend the workshop, but the seminar by itself was simply fantastic. Unlike the other pickup stuff I have read in the past, this seminar gave a real meaning to the phrase: Pick up ARTIST. It really can be an art if you know how to play the game. Mystery and the others who taught the seminar really had a solid game plan for us to learn. I am still in the dark, but unlike before, I am wondering through it with a flashlight and a map, lighting up areas I have been through many a time, but only now am seeing the patterns. Thanks guys. You gave us freewill in the game, and not just a roll of the die.

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Testimonial for Mystery by Entourage

April 22, 2007 by Blitz  
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After attending the boot camp there’s no doubt in my mind that it was worth the time, energy, effort, and money spent. It’s one thing to read books, listen to audio CDs, and go through trial and error…….but it’s a significantly better and more efficient ordeal to actually have Mystery and his instructors train you hands on, watch you, and have you watch them. I can honestly say that I saved 3 years of trial and error in the 3 days I spent with Mystery and his instructors. If you only have the cold contact market to work then I highly recommend this workshop.

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Testimonial for Mystery by Jazzguy

April 22, 2007 by Blitz  
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Just watching Mystery . . . shattered my reality of what was possible.

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Testimonial for Mystery by Ryan C

April 22, 2007 by Blitz  
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I took your workshop in LA two weeks ago. . . Last night, I ran the tightest set. I followed your game plan EXACTLY. I went in with intriguing opener, picked the target, got the group to love me, negged/ignored her. I was the center of attention of the entire mixed 6 set. Later, I isolated her and went in with beauty is common…", qualified, demonstrated vulneribility. I always knew all this stuff should work, but tonight I actually SAW it work in its enitrety for the first time. It was amazing that everyone in the group acted according to the plan(group, HB, specific obstacles). Thanks Mystery. This took my game to the next level."

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Program Review for Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop, Sydney Bootcamp, Apr 07

April 17, 2007 by Blitz  
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What a real fuckin eye opener.. For anyone that hasnt taken a bootcamp and wants to get good, sorry, great at the venusian arts.. do yourself a favour and attend a bootcamp.
The instructers where Moxie, Lovedrop, London Playboy and Metro. I was one of three students.. thats right three.. we where extremely lucky to be able to have great tutition and be one on one with an instructor at all times.
Moxie is a cool, down to earth guy that really loves game and could talk about it forever, Moxie is also great at making the game seem like a "game" cause thats all it is really.
Lovedrop is well Lovedrop the human encyclopedia on evolutionary psycology.. he can explain any part of social dynamics at the drop of a hat and is great with explaining bodylanguage/sub-communications.
London Playboy is very experienced in field and threw a good mix in with his thoughts of game.
Metro is also a really cool guy, I spent most of my time with Metro and was just like hanging out with an old buddy.. but a buddy that pushes you to the limit. We opened a shit load of sets together.

The seminar part of the camp really explained concepts in greater detail than you can read in any book/forum. With the added benefit of being able to ask questions if something didnt quite sink in. I belive I have a much better understanding of some of the theories of game including using negs alot better and future adventure projections, a great BT routine.

The workshop was awsome the guys had me opening mixed sets, amoging, isolating, locking in, I even done the twirl manouvere to lock into a set that said they didnt speak english but I #closed 5mins into set.. she spoke perfect english . I learned alot of what my sticking points where and how to blast through them.

Massive credit to all the instructors, thanks again.. I had an awsome time.
Ill probably review where im at in a years time and think about doing some one on one’s.

Sarge on..
Skuzzy

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Program Review for Mystery & Matador by Dave, Toronto Bootcamp, Apr 07

April 6, 2007 by Blitz  
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It was an amazing bootcamp. Seeing Mystery work the hole patio so
easily with lots of hot girls and intimidating guys was inspiring.
He taught me a really good opener that works every time I use. I’m
not gonna share it with you by the way! For the first time in my life
I got to clubs, , opened hot girls and got lots of kino! sarging with
Matador was awsome. He opened and kiss closed hot girls in a matter of
few minutes. I never thought that was possible. I also got lots of
useful material to use at different stages of pickup from opening to
sex. I got to learn the latest technology in pickup and how to handle
different situations. It was life changing. I will never forget it.
I hope to see Mystery and Matador again.
Dave

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Program Review for Mystery & Matador by Vernon, Toronto Bootcamp, Apr 07

April 6, 2007 by Blitz  
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I have separated this review into three components: Instructors, Highlights and My Own Experience.

INSTRUCTORS:

Matador

Make no mistake about it, this was Matador’s Workshop. Yes, JDog and Mystery were both involved, but it was Matador’s show.

Appearance: Matador is a big man. Really big. While he is only 6’2”, his shoes (I think that they are the same pair that Neil Armstrong wore when he made his ‘giant leap for mankind’) raised him to at least 6’4”. He has massive shoulders and a tapered waist. He is not the kind of guy that you would mess with in a back alley unless you were packing a Glock, but I get the impression that this man could probably stop bullets…you would need kryptonite to bring him down.

Demeanor: Imagine the man that you know in your life that exhibits the most ‘Alpha’ qualities. Now take that same man after he has been injected with the serum that gave Captain America his super-powers and you have Matador. The man oozes ‘Alpha’. I swear to you, I saw him sneeze and before he could cover his mouth, bits of ‘Alpha’ landed on the table. When he walks through a hallway or club, he has the appearance of moving underwater; his pace is that slow and powerful. Simply by listening to Matador, you could sense your own mind transitioning into an Alpha state.

The Good: After spending time with Matador, you feel like you can conquer the world. He tells it to you straight. Seriously, he’ll hit you with it right between the eyes. He doesn’t hold back because it is not in his nature to disguise his words. He knows that you did not shell out your hard-earned cash to have someone blow sunshine up your ass. If you want that kind of shit, go see Tony Robbins. If you want to create change in your life, hang with Matador.

Please do not misunderstand what I am saying, just because he is straight with you, it does not mean that the man is not articulate. He is surprisingly expressive and eloquent. His level of intellect is evident within moments of meeting him.

The Bad: Because Matador is so overwhelmingly ‘Alpha’, it was evident that it took the group almost a full day to fully relax when they were around him. While I don’t believe this to be a terrible thing, as Matador represents what an man can become with time and dedication, I could sense that some of the students felt that the disparity between themselves and Matador was so extreme that they were feeling as though they could never be ‘that good’. For this reason, I asked Matador to tell us what he was like before being trained in the Community. He graciously told us about his AFC days, which immediately put the group at ease as you could see the development of commonalities.

What he accomplished for the students at this Workshop: Matador did it all. He spent hours helping everyone with their SPs. What I found to be so surprising was the area that Matador told us all that we needed to improve the most. It was our Openers. Not the words to the Openers, rather, it was our body language (BL) during our Openers. We spent HOURS practicing our approaches in the class room before heading to the field. I felt that I was already a socially intelligent guy, but the improvement that I made in this area was immense. Matador’s work was pure genius.

Matador gave each of us exactly what we needed. Everything from the Approach to our own Identities, he took the time to carefully guide us. When we were done the Workshop, I can honestly tell you that I felt like I had ripped these guys off. With the skill set that they gave me, one that no man can gain from any book, I should have paid them $10k, not the paltry $2,250 that they charged me (more on this later).

JDog

I found that I was able to really identify with JDog. He was the polar opposite of Matador, which made for a great Workshop. They were like Gin & Tonic. By themselves, they are okay, but together, they are spectacular. This may have been a poor example since I enjoy Gin about as much as I enjoy Buckley’s cough syrup, but you get the point.

Appearance: JDog has style. The man can dress. Every time that I saw him, I was like, “Whoa, brother, where did you get that?” He would look down at his jacket or shirt and say in his English accent, “Britain, and it was only 30 pounds (currency, not weight, for those of you that are living out in the ‘sticks’ and finally have discovered an Internet connection).” He probably bought the goods at the boutique next door…*wink*

His build is not at all like Matador’s. He stands at perhaps 5’9”, with the same Neil Armstrong boots or Cuban heels on his feet. He is in great shape, but his body resembles a Calvin Klein model’s rather than a WWE wrestler’s like Matador’s.

When in the bars/clubs, unlike Matador, who did no ‘peacocking’, JDog would be moderately peacocked. He kept his same sense of style, but vamped it up just enough to separate himself from everyone else in the venue.

Demeanor: JDog’s game is all charisma. His style is very different than Matador’s, yet they used the same technology to open and hold sets. This is what makes the Venusian Arts so amazing, it does not matter what your natural style is, as long as you are hitting the necessary Attraction Switches, the set is on. Matador and JDog, on the 2nd night out, were locking in sets side-by-side, using the SAME openers and having the kind of success that up until those moments I had only read about.

The students responded well to JDog. This was evident when Matador left the room and handed JDog the reigns to teach the group. Almost immediately the guys starting asking JDog questions. It was obvious that people feel instantaneously comfortable around JDog, where Matador had to show the group that he was not born on Krypton before they would relax with him.

The Good: When I asked JDog about where he was from, he told me ‘Arizona’ and that he had purchased his English accent from eBay. He continued to tell me that he really wanted the French accent, but was outbid at the last moment and had to settle for the English. This is who JDog is, a likeable, disarming man with a great sense of style and wicked game. Witnessing him in set were some of the best moments of my weekend. On the 2nd night, I told JDog that I wanted to watch him work. While I was not paired with him, JDog was good enough to seek me out and start opening sets for me. He did everything right. He was like Iceman from Top Gun. No mistakes. Perfectly calibrated. Unless, of course, you include the part of the movie when Iceman leaves some jet-wash for Goose and Maverick to fly through and Goose dies…You get the point, this guy has spent years honing his skill-set and it was evident.

The Bad: While students worked very well with JDog one-on-one, he does not hold the same presence when in front of the group that Matador does. However, I feel that this will come with time, as JDog’s exposure to leading Workshops increases. If JDog had been the only instructor at the Workshop, I still would have paid the money and felt as though I was undercharged for what I received.

Mystery

I have not read the book ‘The Game’. Of course, I know of it. It’s almost biblical within the Community. Actually, I heard that the Gideons are now leaving the book in hotel rooms…

Anyhow, I did not read the book for one reason: I wanted to meet Mystery without any preconceived ideas or notions. I wanted to see the ‘man’, not the celebrity. When Mystery entered the Workshop, he was only the ‘man’. There is not an arrogant or pretentious bone in this man’s body. You have NO IDEA what this guy has coming down the pipeline and the crowd that he roles with, but he treated each of us as his equal.

I am not going to spend a lot of time talking about Mystery, other than this: I have yet to meet a man that can match his intellect and eloquence. He is an absolute genius that is nothing short of captivating.

I’m going to leave it at that. Find a way to learn how this man thinks. Experts will tell you that success leaves clues. Mystery has not left us ‘clues’, he has given the world a mindset and a system that will change your life. Seek him out and learn.

Mystery’s Girlfriend

We were fortunate enough to have Mystery’s girlfriend join us in the Workshop…

Now, I know that you are all wondering, “What does she look like?” Well, I’ll tell you. She is one of the most naturally beautiful girls I have ever seen. To describe her as stunning would be an understatement. However, it was not her appearance that impressed me so much, it was her character. This girl is special. She is only 22 years old, with a blazingly bright business mind as she is designing three separate clothing lines for major players in the fashion industry. She is empathetic, approachable and happy in life. She has the mind of champion. It is girls like her that are the reason that guys like us pay thousands of dollars to learn how to attract women. It is girls like her that are the reason that guys like us invest countless hours into studying the material and going into the field to learn to calibrate night after night. She was an inspiration for every man that sat in that room.

Mystery’s girl entered the field with us on night two as a pivot. This girl has game. She introduced us to set after set using Accomplishment Introductions. She created ridiculous amounts of social proof for each one of us and she would interrupt sets to arouse jealousy in our targets. I’m not certain that she spent more than 5 minutes with Mystery that night as she was with all of the students helping their game.

Mystery bringing his girl and encouraging her to help us ‘game’ is just one more example of who this man is and the type of quality people that he has attracted into his life.

HIGHLIGHTS

Mystery’s Warm-up: I watched Mystery begin his warm-up by opening a mixed 20-set. Mystery held the set for about 15 minutes before ejecting to open another set that had just witnessed massive amounts of social proof. It was pure genius. He opened the 20-set for one reason: to let the rest of the people in the venue see him causing others to have a good time. It created a complete paradigm shift in my game.

JDog’s AMOG: When JDog was in a 2-set with CrimsonKing (a student) as his wing, an AMOG interrupted the set. This guy was not your normal obnoxious AMOG, he was the Grand Pubba of AMOGs. He may have even been wearing his Grand Pubba hat when he came to the club, as there was definitely a hint of hat-head in the AMOGs greasy hair. JDog handled this guy like how Star Jones handles a pizza. He chewed him up and sent him on his sullen way. How did he do it? Well, in the beginning he just totally ignored the guy. Each time Grand Pubba AMOG would try to take over the conversation, JDog would say ‘right’ and continue on in his set. This tactic will usually diffuse the AMOG, but instead, it just made the grease ball attempt to interject even more.
Finally, the AMOG grabbed JDog and said, “Dude, are you gay?”
At this point, everyone was watching, not just the girls in the set.
JDog’s response: “No man, but the gay bar is just down the street. Have fun.”
Everyone laughed, not just a snicker, but a loud, explosive laugh. It was beautiful. The AMOG then did his own version of a magic trick; he disappeared to another part of the club. JDog just continued the set as though nothing had happened. This was an area that I really needed help in, so being able to witness someone that is this skilled handle the President-Elect of AMOGs was great.

Matador’s Game: On the second night, I was able to watch Matador k-close 3 different girls in the span of about an hour, one of which was our hostess (which he opened and k-closed in front of the entire group in under 5 minutes). These were attractive girls, and you could tell that Matador was trying to help the group understand the process by showing us how to go from A1 to C1 by continuously opening and closing out the sets at the highest level of attraction. He could have pulled anyone of these girls to his hotel (see below), but he felt that he needed to stay to continue to work with the students, which we all greatly appreciated.

Hotel Room Pull: After we arrived back at the hotel on the 2nd night, JDog, Matador and I went outside for a quick smoke. There was a 2-set that was also smoking about 20 feet away from us. Matador opened the set, JDog entered as a wing, and after a 15 minute convo, they pulled the 2 girls upstairs to their room. As Matador opened the front door for the girls to head upstairs, he flashed me a quick smile and off they went. Spectacular.

Venusian Arts Going Above and Beyond: When we arrived at the club on the 2nd night, we had an issue with two of our guys (me being one of them). The club didn’t care for our shoes. I liked my shoes, Matador liked my shoes, but the doorman didn’t. They were not going to let two of us in. After some negotiations the club agreed to let us enter if we purchased the VIP table and drink service. The cost of the service was $400. The instructors did not even blink an eye. They slipped the manager a credit card and we were in the club within moments. It was VERY cool of the Venusian Arts guys to do this for us.

Pinch me, is this real? Within an hour of us being in the club, the strangest thing happened. Three VA instructors, one hot girl (Mystery’s girlfriend), and nine guys that could have played Anthony Michael Hall’s role in “Sixteen Candles”, now OWNED the venue. WE were the cool guys. WE were the guys that were ‘creating the moments’. WE were the guys that had multiple sets coming to OUR area of the club. WE were the guys that were number-closing and kiss-closing. WE were the guys that, in a span of 48 hours, went from AFCs to near-PUAs. It was on this night that each and every single one of us realized that this stuff is for real and that we REALLY did change our lives.

Commitment to Your People: The schedule for the weekend showed that we were to end each day at 7pm to give the instructors time to eat, clean up and catch a nap before hitting the venues. If you have ever run a seminar, then you know just how emotionally exhausting it can be. These guys needed some rest. But, the instructors could sense the eagerness of the students to keep learning, so they stayed with the group until the last possible moment. On the Saturday night, Mystery and JDog didn’t even eat (Matador ate…pasta with clams…perhaps some foreshadowing of events to come later that night). They stayed with us until 10pm on both nights, at which point we gathered our things and began getting ready for the club. On the Sunday night, we were to conclude at 7pm, with the instructors catching flights back home on Monday morning. They stayed with us until 1:00am, in the classroom, working on our inner game. Don’t ever tell me that the VA guys are not invested in their students. It was the single greatest display of leadership and caring that they could have given us. They were EXHAUSTED. Matador’s eyes had almost swollen shut completely. It was like he was having an allergic reaction to oxygen. But he stayed with us. Mystery picked up were Matador left off and we were truly captivated. These are dedicated guys that want nothing more than to help improve the lives of people who are willing to learn. We all were very appreciative of their gesture to keep teaching long past the times that we had agreed to before the Workshop began.

Some of My Own Experiences

As for my personal success, of the 9 sets that I opened, I managed to number-close 5 girls over the two nights. Interestingly enough, two of these girls number-closed ME when they sensed that I might be leaving the set. This is something that Matador taught me how to do through body language. It worked very well.

I was able to stay in set for a long time and I never had a blow-out. Two of the girls that I number closed came from seated mixed sets that held two guys and one girl. This experience elevated my confidence tremendously. Interestingly enough, it was one of these girls that had asked me for my number. Her reason, and I quote: “You are just so brave and come talk to our group and try to get me.” I told her that her ego may be a little too healthy and that I was really interested in the guys, but she wasn’t buying it…*wink*

I did get an AMOG on the first night that was a complete ass and I lost the set. It was going really well up until he entered. He totally tooled me during my ‘palm reading’ routine. I had no idea what to do and I could sense that I had lost the respect of the girls. I ejected from the set and immediately opened another set that was about 8 feet away. I felt that I had created enough social proof to enter the second set with relative ease. I was right, as they were happy to see me. JDog’s demonstration the following night showed me how to handle an AMOG correctly, which I deeply appreciate.

I have called all three of the numbers that I entered into my phone. I have set up Day 2’s with two of them. Of the other two girls that took my number, both have called me. One of them has somehow managed to score tickets to Saturday’s hockey game and I am the lucky recipient of the second ticket (I told her that we should scalp the tickets and jump on a plane to Aruba…). Next week should prove to be VERY interesting.

As I said earlier, with respect to the Workshop, I feel as though it was I that scored the deal. The VA instructors are truly under-charging for their time and their material. I took 77 pages of notes over the weekend. My finger still hurts from the damn pen (since the advent of the computer, a pen rarely touches my hand). These were not notes on one of those standard hotel room pads. These notes were on a full letter-sized yellow pad. Even with all the notes that I took and the experiences that I had, I believe that I have only begun to scratch the surface of what Matador, JDog and Mystery can teach me. When I mentioned this to Matador, he told me that he is available 24/7, just send him an email and he will answer all of my questions. He is truly interested in our progress and continued success.

I do not know what ‘Workshops’ from other companies are like. I can only assume that they do offer some value, since 90% of the competing companies are run by Mystery’s former students (that should tell you something). However, I will assure you that attending a Venusian Arts Workshop will change your life. Anytime you have the opportunity to spend three days, in an intimate setting, with the people who are the best on the planet at what they do, you TAKE IT. I did, and I will never look back.

Matador, JDog and Mystery truly changed my life, and for this, I will be forever grateful.

~Vernon

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Program Review for Mystery & Matador by Spillz, Toronto Bootcamp, Apr 07

April 3, 2007 by Blitz  
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When I first walked into the room I really had no idea what to expect from this bootcamp. I had read on the web page the list of different skills the bootcamp was supposed to teach, but I never would have guessed that they would cover every single bullet point in such detail. The instructors had given us such in depth understanding of not only the theory behind Venusian Arts, but they provided us with so much practical knowledge and canned material that I am STILL internalizing and calibrating everything that we had been taught. I was especially impressed with the dedication of the instructors to stay way past the scheduled times to ensure that every student grasped all of the concepts that were taught.

Having Master Instructors with me in field made it possible to obliterate sticking points, and calibrate on the fly. It definitly raises the level of your game to new heights. Watching Matador in field was absolutely spectacular. He worked girls with ease and showed real life demonstrations in field of all the concepts and routines that they had taught us. Within minutes of opening Matador was pulling make-outs, and working girls in ways I never thought possible, and he actually used my cell phone to number close in field. Watching Mystery in field was like seeing a magic trick for the very first time. He was able to befriend the guys in set while simultaneously taking their girls in a way that opened a whole new reality for me. Seeing Mystery lock in sets, pull numbers, and makeouts with such natural simplicity totally changed my perception on what i thought was possible. Talking with Mystery one on one literally changed my life, his theories, energy, attitude, and passion were absolutely inspiring. JDog’s charisma and charm was totally uplifting, and just by hanging with the guy I felt inspired to open as many sets as I could.

The Master Instructors involved in this bootcamp totally abolished every fear I had about pickup such as opening mixed sets, opening previously opened sets with the same opener, and sets knowing I’m a PUA. I left this bootcamp a new man, and I would never reccommend anyone take anything but a Venusian Arts bootcamp.

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Program Review for Mystery & Matador by CrimsonKing, Toronto Bootcamp, Apr 07

April 3, 2007 by Blitz  
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If there was a term to describe what this bootcamp was like, that term would be “life-changing”. There really is no other way to describe it.

There theory and detail of the seminars went beyond anything you could ever read in a book or pickup in a DVD. Having both Matador and Mystery coach and critique everything from tonality to facial expressions to posture to lean-ins did more for my game than I ever could have imagined. The detail of explanation and the passion with which the techniques and theory were taught made the seminars alone worth the money.

The in-field instruction was phenomenal. Matador and Mystery abolished just about every one of my sticking points and showed me things that I could only ever have learned by watching them in-field.

Matador was awesome. He is the king of body language, playfulness, and kino. His teaching completely changed my game. Having him direct and calibrate me while in a set was more powerful than any seduction book or video could ever hope to be. He is so alpha it’s insane, and yet he still conveys a certain sensitivity that sets seem to adore.

Seeing Mystery in field was like watching a force of nature: what’s happening right in front of your eyes is so amazing that you can’t quite believe that you’re actually witnessing it. This is a man who exudes charisma and sexuality in such a way that most people cannot help but be drawn to him. Every negative thing I had ever heard or read about him was wiped out within the first ten minutes of meeting him. Anyone who says Mystery doesn’t have it is either jealous or has no idea what they’re talking about. Being near him felt like being around a celebrity. You could see that feeling be telegraphed to nearby sets he hadn’t even opened yet. His ability to pull sets, AMOG or befriend obstacles, create kino and DHV are beyond anything I have ever seen before. He really does have a super power.

JDog was no slouch either. I only got to see him do a couple of sets, but the ones I saw were throwing IOIs like mad! And seeing him tool an aggressive AMOG was absolutely hilarious. He has the presence of a rock star. You feel cool just being near him.

On top of everything else, this seminar wiped out just about every fear I ever had about pickup. I opened a set with the same opener someone else had ran and recovered without any trouble. I had a wing try to run the same routine I had just ran and was able to catch him in time without suspicion. Matador even told a set that I was a pickup artist, and, thanks to what I had learned, I still k- and #-closed the target using textbook game. How cool is that?

It would take years to accomplish on my own the things I accomplished through this bootcamp. I recommend it to anyone and everyone who wants to get good at the game insanely fast.

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Testimonial for Hawaii by Vanguard, Las Vegas

March 24, 2007 by Blitz  
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I wanted to write to you to let you know how wonderful an instructor Hawaii is. I took the Las Vegas Bootcamp last weekend. I rank it as some of the best money I have every spent. Hawaii pushed me much further than I had anticipated and I was surprised at just how much progress I had made on the first day. I can’t imagine having made this progress this fast on my own.

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Testimonial for Hawaii by Shiloh, Atlantic City

March 24, 2007 by Blitz  
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This is Shiloh, a participant of the Atlantic City BootCamp that was conducted by Hawaii.

I can honestly say he was an incredible instructor, and it was truly enlightening to not only taught by him, but to see him in action.
I’m a very skeptical person, and even with Mystery’s book as well as the book "The Game," I wanted to see the Mystery Method in action and Hawaii delivered in spades! Everything he taught at the bootcamp he put into action right in front of my eyes! He was incredible to watch, and he had all of the girls eating out of his hands! The first night I had "approach anxiety" in a huge way. But thanks to Hawaii’s positive encouragement and constructive criticism, I had approached about 20 sets the next night! And I got a phone number out of it!

Hawaii was a genuinely great guy and I couldn’t have asked for a better instructor!

I look forward to learning more about the Mystery Method and improving my game. I know I have a long way to go, but thanks to Hawaii, I know I have one helluva head start on all of the AFCs out there!

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Program Review for Hawaii by RavChase, Atlantic City Bootcamp, Oct 06

March 24, 2007 by Blitz  
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I attended the seminar and bootcamp in Atlantic City in October 2006 with Hawaii. I would like to say that the material presented met all of my expectations and then some. I attended because I wanted to improve my approach skills and no one in my social circle gave me the motivation to do so on my own. At the bootcamp, Hawaii approached numerous sets as a demonstration. Seeing how easy it was to engage girls who were complete strangers opened my eyes, and by the first night I was approaching any and every group of girls I encountered, and was also better able to identify opportunities that had been in front of eyes all along.

The information presented at the seminar also was the first time I saw the approach laid out systematically in a way that put me at ease when taking action. Before I would just approach girls with a canned opener (if any) and hoped the conversation wrote itself - you can guess how that usually worked out. Now seeing all of Mystery’s concepts I had read about before then being put into practice gives me a whole new perspective on meeting women. I am really looking forward to a bright, rewarding future because of my decision to take the seminar and bootcamp, and have already been enjoying success in the first few months since that time.

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Program Review for Matador by babyface, Miami Bootcamp, Aug 06

March 6, 2007 by Blitz  
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